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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 15, 2017, 06:13:14 PM
Hello! The project is really promising. Can you tell me when ico is going to start?

The pre sale is open now to private investors that to invest over $1000 in the project. You can purchase Fluz Fluz with BTC, ETH and fiat through Visa or MasterCard.

wiehoeeeeee, i fucking love it. These dudes get it! Accept fiat payments is one of the smartest things to do, especially if u wish to penetrate the american market. if anybody had any doubts this would be a succes, don't worry anymore.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: December 15, 2017, 04:24:38 PM
when I say sell before Ripple dives.  I mean like within the natural flow.  every coins gains and then retreats us from that gain.. so sell at the top of a peak .. I never said it was gonna bomb totally. geez some proportion.. anyhow you are micoscoping too hard. let's leave it. you clearly don't get my drift.

As for which banks..

http://gtgox.com/partners-of-ripple/

have a read dude

i do get your drift, im simply pointing out that you are seeing it wrong.
i'm not microscoping, im actually saying out loud what you were implying.
Those banks are partnerships, those are companies who are interested in utilizing ripple in their own system. (i see only upside)

So overal, you are comparing 2 coins which both have their own target market.. useless to compare. and you give wrong information.

you can love litecoin, but like almost every fanboy of their own preferred currency, remain realistic and stick to the facts. Love is good, ignorance is a killer..
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: December 14, 2017, 11:56:19 PM
Bermudal if you are gonna quote me then quote me don't twist my words - I never said

"Ripple is gonna crash because the big 15 banks own it"

I said the banks (like JP Morgan and other bankers around the world) were the same ppl trying to spook everyone with the same old one liner "its a bubble, its a bubble" because they don't want to lose control as the control and profits of money goes back to the people via crypto! So don't feel a thing as you cash in your ripple profits before they dive - and into a cooler coin like Litecoin"

in other words how about we crash the 'banks' coin by reaping profits of stock we hold in them buy selling out at the top of a rise (any rise) because they have been ripping the world off for generations and are the opposite of Satoshi's vision.

get your facts straight man.

Litecoin for the long term Smiley


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PS: Charlie Lee is a good man - if I was in his position & heard about people putting their whole house into cryptocurrency I would also be hosing down expectations - never never bet more than 5-10% of your net worth on high risk investments, no matter how solid the history

exactly, you are saying banks own it, then you say banks hate crypto, and then you say cash in your ripple profits before the dive. These claims combined means: Ripple is gonna crash because the big 15 banks own it.

You understand with these things you claim alot of things.. you might not like ripple because it does not fit in your ideologie. But it does fit in the real world of the common lazy people who ain't got time for crypto shit and just want someone to handle it for them - read: bank -.
Also.. what 15 banks and where is your proof?

and this one, claiming that the quality ones are the ones with a low supply, thus making it grow harder? " I think we could easily see 2-3 trillion market cap for the whole industry within a year which makes every coin worth a lot more & the quality ones an order of magnitude higher - specially the ones with a limited issue like Litecoin (84 mill) & not billions or a billion like Ripple" <-- direct quote this time.

After all, this is all beside the point. by bashing ripple you don't make litecoin look any better. In my eyes litecoin and ripple have different goals. Litecoin for the alternative payment as consumer. And ripple for integrated bank transactions to replace the old system.

So yeah, i got my facts kinda straight. How about you?
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: December 14, 2017, 09:18:22 PM
lol, i love the ignorant claims of alot of people here. 'ripple will crash because 15 big banks own it' 'ripple will crash en litecoin will moon because the supply of litecoin is way smaller'..

You guys do understand that indeed the banks control the economy and are desperate to remain in control. Ripple reduces the transaction costs by 60% for banks and makes transfers almost instant. Why would banks let it crash when they could gain way more by actually using it?

blockchain is a great innovation, however, banks like to remain in control. Ripple is the compromise?

I do love litecoin, and it's rise is justified and long overdue. But so is ripple's rise. Beside that, ripple is pretty close to having the biggest user case. once the beta testing with the banks are over they are going to be actually used on a daily basis for bank transactions, these transactions can go up to the trillions. (and in order to do that you need a large supply in which 100 billion is even moderate since coins get burned per transaction and the amount of banktransactions are huge)

i am more concerned with the upcoming correction (given the marketcap growth of cryptocurrency's) and the possible ban on crypto's from south Korea. As i've heard, alot of volume which made litecoin climb was from south Korea. Correct me if i'm wrong, i haven't fact checked it.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] on: December 13, 2017, 09:43:11 PM
well, i bought 5.7m zeit. sounds like a fun cheap coin to give to relatives for Christmas. 'here you go, 500.000 cryptocoins' muhahahaha
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 11, 2017, 06:43:01 PM
What exactly can you do on the app?

And also, is fluz fluz strictly for luxury items purposes? or can we also expect to start a collaboration with a supermarket chain? Would be awesome if people could use the network for everyday grocery shopping
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 11, 2017, 05:24:28 PM
Are you guys planning to open a location for Europe ? All of the locations from Fluz Fluz are out of Europe.

as far as i read they have as of now, no plans to do so. And to be honest, i think it is a smart move not to do so. They should focus on one region before going to the next. One of the biggest things i see for fluz fluz is a luxury problem, nonetheless a luxury problem: Growing pains. This means that their growth will outweigh their preperations for growth (unforseen quick growth). by adding europe they would only increase that problem and also get a second problem: no focus.

but hey, that is simply my view on it. What do you think?

it's probably wise to focus only on one market after another. And after starting in Colombia, it is natural to take the next step in the USA. The team is not very big, so it can not devote two equal attention to two new markets at once. But what speaks against a team enlargement? i would call it team europe:-), a small group of people who only care about the market launch in Europe. It will take at least until 2019, but a team of its own could already do some work

still, you have to train new employees and before you trained them properly you already have to hire new employees. As for Europe, i get your excitment haha! But it takes money to launch in a completely new market, money i'm guessing they currently don't have or are better spend elsewhere Wink
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 09, 2017, 09:33:47 PM
Are you guys planning to open a location for Europe ? All of the locations from Fluz Fluz are out of Europe.

as far as i read they have as of now, no plans to do so. And to be honest, i think it is a smart move not to do so. They should focus on one region before going to the next. One of the biggest things i see for fluz fluz is a luxury problem, nonetheless a luxury problem: Growing pains. This means that their growth will outweigh their preperations for growth (unforseen quick growth). by adding europe they would only increase that problem and also get a second problem: no focus.

but hey, that is simply my view on it. What do you think?
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 09, 2017, 07:43:36 PM


have just read in the road map, that it will take until June 2018, until token holder can activate their premier seats (buy?). Thought that goes immediately after the ICO. But after FluzFluz in the US will start in July 2018, that will probably not play any role

well obviously they can't completely neglect their existing market in latin america. I like that they put it somewhere down in july. It represents an realistic view on how they are going to proceed. i think it is quite important projects will be able to stick to their roadmap, not give false hopes on prematurely launching platforms.

I also like how much time the project has given to promote the ICO before the main sale. A lot of projects do not advertise well enough or for long enough but Fluz Fluz is doing its advertising the right way and giving investors plenty of time to make a decsion or get their funds ready.


Yes nowadays advertising is so important, much more than everything else. Would like to now how they do their advertising besides of the crypto universe^^

When Icos don't advertise most of them will not reach their goal. Advertising is for me also important, because you can't just start something without telling others about it. A ICO must be active on social media to become a trusted ICO who really works on their project.

but advertising it out of the crypto universe is not a big goal i think. If u only accept ethereum and bitcoin it is hard for people who are unfamiliar with crypto to get in on it. They would most likely wait it out till the platform is launched and then buy in to it with fiat currency.

so their main focus should stay on the crypto universe or they have to start accepting fiat currency's. Never underestimate how lazy people are.(e.g. setting up bitcoin/ethereum wallets)
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 09, 2017, 07:20:54 PM

have just read in the road map, that it will take until June 2018, until token holder can activate their premier seats (buy?). Thought that goes immediately after the ICO. But after FluzFluz in the US will start in July 2018, that will probably not play any role

well obviously they can't completely neglect their existing market in latin america. I like that they put it somewhere down in july. It represents an realistic view on how they are going to proceed. i think it is quite important projects will be able to stick to their roadmap, not give false hopes on prematurely launching platforms.

I also like how much time the project has given to promote the ICO before the main sale. A lot of projects do not advertise well enough or for long enough but Fluz Fluz is doing its advertising the right way and giving investors plenty of time to make a decsion or get their funds ready.

yeaa indeed!! They don't give in to the hype of everything needs to go super fast and make a lot of promises which sound too good to be true. They got a existing product they believe in and want to responsibly expand their product with the usage of crypto's.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] CROM - TRANSPARENCY, TRUST AND LIQUIDITY IN PERFORMANCE MARKETING on: December 09, 2017, 07:17:49 PM
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4 keys for evaluating Initial #Coin Offering (#ICO) investments: team & advisors; clear business case; limited token supply; fully compliant KYC/AML process. Learn more about why @CroMhub is one of most profound ICOs of 2017 here: https://cromhub.com/ 
#ETH  #BTC #thelastico

This is a nice tweet from Crom, good points on why this ICO is worth investigating further on their site.

This is really good and valuable points. It should be there in their pinned message in all social media. IF possible they should go for flashing this as highlight in main crypto channels. I beleive CROM team will do that asap..

I think they are already doing what they can, Its on the first page on their website and they tweeted it. Just keep up the good job and make sure you change your plans and burn the unsold tokens after ICO

good that they have done that. Well if they burn all those tokens then there are barely any tokens left, that wouldn't be sustainable. I do believe they should give the investors a massive bonus on their investment, like 500%. Then there are quite a lot more tokens in the market at the start. After that they should do some airdrops like each month to all token holders. This way you increase the amount of tokens in the market and the demand of the token. Then your token will spread enough over the market.

500% bonus is easy too big if you ask me mate. Remember they are trying to make sure that they reduce the amount of dumping of token that most traders go thus the little bonus. Giving that much pervasive bonus will just encourage lots of dumping in a long run

500% is ridiculous! CROM don't want to make the project look like a scam, 25% is more than enough! They just needed a more aggressive advertising campaign, its been too relaxed the whole way through.

the whole point of it, is that it gets dumped alot so it would distribute itself. Given the small amount of investors you need to spread you coins and you can't simply give it away to some random people while some investors had put their faith and money into this project.

so i agree with the initial plan of CROM, but it hasn't worked out so far. My plan is simply a solution to still get the project out there and still be fair towards their investors.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 09, 2017, 06:21:52 PM

have just read in the road map, that it will take until June 2018, until token holder can activate their premier seats (buy?). Thought that goes immediately after the ICO. But after FluzFluz in the US will start in July 2018, that will probably not play any role

well obviously they can't completely neglect their existing market in latin america. I like that they put it somewhere down in july. It represents an realistic view on how they are going to proceed. i think it is quite important projects will be able to stick to their roadmap, not give false hopes on prematurely launching platforms.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] CROM - TRANSPARENCY, TRUST AND LIQUIDITY IN PERFORMANCE MARKETING on: December 09, 2017, 06:18:05 PM


good that they have done that. Well if they burn all those tokens then there are barely any tokens left, that wouldn't be sustainable. I do believe they should give the investors a massive bonus on their investment, like 500%. Then there are quite a lot more tokens in the market at the start. After that they should do some airdrops like each month to all token holders. This way you increase the amount of tokens in the market and the demand of the token. Then your token will spread enough over the market.


you have some good ideas, hope crom picks up some of them. I especially like the idea with the Airdrop for token holder. Although at the moment, only very few of them benefit and thus no real market for the tokens can arise. So maybe an Airdrop for all?

Yea at the beginning a very few benefit, that is why i proposed to give the investors at the ICO 500% more tokens, thus having more tokens available at the market in the beginning. they obviously will dump alot, other people will buy them up and so the first group of token holders is alot bigger than the initial group of investors. By holding these airdrops for tokenholders it increases the incentive to own and hold CROM tokens. But also it increases the demand, so the price will go up -- more holders will sell --> more people will buy --> thus creating a larger community of tokenholders.

Perhaps there is a better way to get the project out there, i would love to hear about it! With more idea's we can create better solutions
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] CROM - TRANSPARENCY, TRUST AND LIQUIDITY IN PERFORMANCE MARKETING on: December 09, 2017, 02:54:44 PM
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4 keys for evaluating Initial #Coin Offering (#ICO) investments: team & advisors; clear business case; limited token supply; fully compliant KYC/AML process. Learn more about why @CroMhub is one of most profound ICOs of 2017 here: https://cromhub.com/ 
#ETH  #BTC #thelastico

This is a nice tweet from Crom, good points on why this ICO is worth investigating further on their site.

This is really good and valuable points. It should be there in their pinned message in all social media. IF possible they should go for flashing this as highlight in main crypto channels. I beleive CROM team will do that asap..

I think they are already doing what they can, Its on the first page on their website and they tweeted it. Just keep up the good job and make sure you change your plans and burn the unsold tokens after ICO

good that they have done that. Well if they burn all those tokens then there are barely any tokens left, that wouldn't be sustainable. I do believe they should give the investors a massive bonus on their investment, like 500%. Then there are quite a lot more tokens in the market at the start. After that they should do some airdrops like each month to all token holders. This way you increase the amount of tokens in the market and the demand of the token. Then your token will spread enough over the market.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 09, 2017, 02:47:48 PM
wouldnt that depend on the value of a fluz fluz token? your not dealing in USD back your dealing in fluz no? Bit confused myself but im still reading the information available on how it will all work

I'm aware of that, it was just a means of measurement. My main point is: passive income means you don't have to spend a dime on products and as long as your network buys shit you earn some "cashback" from those purchases.

And basic cashback means the same as above except there is a limit amount of cashback you can receive (50% of the purchases you have done) e.g. i buy nike sneakers for 100 USD and my network can generate a cashback of a maximum of 50 USD.

Quite the difference between both scenario's, thats what im curious about.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] CROM - TRANSPARENCY, TRUST AND LIQUIDITY IN PERFORMANCE MARKETING on: December 08, 2017, 10:54:57 PM
7 days to go guys! i'm curious what the future will bring us. They got a lot of partnerships and are currently networking in asia, who knows how that might boost the project! tick tock tick tock get those tokens now

Soon when it all comes to an end, we all will be let out of the dark, soon the future we look forward to will arrive and then we will ask know where it all lead. I really wish the CROM team good luck. They really started well, I hope it all ends well for them too.

yeah, i like the concept and the project.. it just really sucks it hasn't gotten that much traction yet. they got quite the bad luck with launching their ICO these weeks now BTC and ETH were mooning and thus all attention was/is pointed towards that
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 08, 2017, 10:51:32 PM
Has anyone read in and knows how the cashback will be paid? do you get fluzfluz tokens, or do you collect everything in one account and then get paid it directly (eg on paypal)?

Hello, the cash back works as follows: you earn cash back Fluz coins everytime you shop and/or others in your network shop put in real time to your account. With these crypto coins you can new buy gift cards or cash out to crypto exchanges into other crypto or FIAT.

But since it's cashback and can only go as far as 50% per purchase. is it right to assume that you can only earn 500 USD cashback if u have shopped for 1000 USD? im a little fussy on this subject..

or is it actually passive income? and you don't need to buy stuff and get a cashback as long as your network keeps buying shit?
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] CROM - TRANSPARENCY, TRUST AND LIQUIDITY IN PERFORMANCE MARKETING on: December 08, 2017, 07:06:44 PM
7 days to go guys! i'm curious what the future will bring us. They got a lot of partnerships and are currently networking in asia, who knows how that might boost the project! tick tock tick tock get those tokens now
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 08, 2017, 07:01:48 PM
Is this project going to make a comeback for financial pyramids?  Roll Eyes

No, I think you do not understand the project.

in a financial pyramid you pay to get in, while on every lower level you get less rewards.

fluzfluz is different. There is only one who pays, the owner of the premier seat. He get much more than the rest, but he payed for it. All the other members of the network do nothing more than register themselfes and after that go on buying those things they want to buy. And than, at the end of every month, they get money. Shocked
Everyone wins, so no financial pyramid,.... Roll Eyes

yea, but i kinda get what he is saying. The construct is kinda the same, you got percentages of the people you bring, and a percentage of the people those people bring etc till 5 layers. That is kinda what a pyramid does. The main difference is indeed; there is no initial contribution you have to do, or any contribution at all. You Always win
So just to be clear, there's no similitude to a financial pyramid, it's a standard referral system and it works pretty much as any cashback site with referrals.

i know but those referral programs are built like a pyramid. thats why i get where the confusion comes from. That is why i explain what the big difference is. Because financial pyramids are notorious for the money you lose you put in it, by explaining that that particulair aspect is not in this construct you take away the worries someone might have.

By blatently denying it you don't convince a critic. you simply enforce the opinion the critic has formed Smiley

I didn't mean to be blunt. But crypto is a world full of FUD so I don't think need any more of that here Wink

no worries, and i totally agree with you. But the only thing that cures ignorance is knowledge. And to project yourself towards some one else's perspective you gain insight on how and why they would perceive things.

Anyways, i like the project! it sounds a pretty succesfull thing for the america's and perhaps the less wealthier country's. Europe is a bit difficult to take on due to the amount of different languages and cultures.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18] on: December 08, 2017, 03:27:18 PM
Is this project going to make a comeback for financial pyramids?  Roll Eyes

No, I think you do not understand the project.

in a financial pyramid you pay to get in, while on every lower level you get less rewards.

fluzfluz is different. There is only one who pays, the owner of the premier seat. He get much more than the rest, but he payed for it. All the other members of the network do nothing more than register themselfes and after that go on buying those things they want to buy. And than, at the end of every month, they get money. Shocked
Everyone wins, so no financial pyramid,.... Roll Eyes

yea, but i kinda get what he is saying. The construct is kinda the same, you got percentages of the people you bring, and a percentage of the people those people bring etc till 5 layers. That is kinda what a pyramid does. The main difference is indeed; there is no initial contribution you have to do, or any contribution at all. You Always win
So just to be clear, there's no similitude to a financial pyramid, it's a standard referral system and it works pretty much as any cashback site with referrals.

i know but those referral programs are built like a pyramid. thats why i get where the confusion comes from. That is why i explain what the big difference is. Because financial pyramids are notorious for the money you lose you put in it, by explaining that that particulair aspect is not in this construct you take away the worries someone might have.

By blatently denying it you don't convince a critic. you simply enforce the opinion the critic has formed Smiley
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