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hey
cloud mining already started ?
started what? cheating customers? hell yeah!! |
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Al you pointed is right, actually first time I ever heard of cexio I did the maths and find out that is a total loss. Despite of that you don't count that this is not like other mining contracts. The fact that you can sell the hashing power actully adds an extra figures for your roi. In the rest of mining cloud services you cannot resell your contract at your will. On the calculation I did. I'd say you could mine 0.0165 BTC @ 1GHs on the next year starting now. On an investment of 0.084 is a total loss as you said, but if the price of GHs is the same, it results that you win!!! The first time I get into cexio the price was something around 0.07 I though this is not going even to keep the price, as difficult rise this price will go down. But you know what? I was wrong price went up and I think I saw it close to 0.1 what is just crazy, obvious over value. But you know now i'm in, I'm trading GHs for BTC. and I found out that is an incredible good thing to trade for noobs on trading. As you have the mining profit as back up for your bad trades. So by the way If you are thinking to get in... look in my signature  |
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i paid 280$ in august for 4Ghs so 70$ by Ghs
i just have my refund by google wallet
if i have buy bitcoin in august i will have approximatively 3 BTC
on actual rate = 2070 $
so thanks you so much cloudhashing to have wasting my time !!!
+1!!! I pass by their facebook and is the same, lot's of customers asking for answers. And then comes the new Public Relations Director, called Michael to say "if you have any mire questions write to support..." 30 seconds later that post was deleted... LOL |
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Is the job of scammer service still available?  |
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I would remind you that by its own admission, Cloudhashing customers funded Terrahash. Wondering if CH customers got refunds, mmmmmm? And the plot thickens. My $.02. Fixed Well, there is that also! well I got my refund... was google's refund but got it... LoL |
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Hi there I got 2 powercolor 7970 HD and one of them is mining quite good. I'm waiting for the raiser so i can conect just one at a time. I got 715 khs normal temperatures with one gpu but the other gpu crashes after 1 minute mining.
Cgminer starts and start mining, with the same setup that I get 715khs and crashes the screen gets black, but fans keep working.
It doesn“t matter if I lower the setup or leave the cgminer to try to get the better setup it will crash after a minute or so.
As both are second hand I've made stress test and benchmark to both in the same PC and the results are same. Actually the one that crashes has a lil bit better results. So I guess there is no hardware problems and I checked the bios in both is the same.
is it posible that same model of cards has problems with same drivers a minersofts?
my setup is:
on the side i use msi afterburner 2.2.2. to undervoltage so temperature is reduced. But If i leave stock voltage the gpu crashes same way.
cgminer 3.6.1
catalyst 13.4
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer --scrypt --quota "50;stratum+tcp://stratum01.hashco.ws:8888" -u XXXX -p XX --quota "50;stratum+tcp://stratum2.wemineltc.com:3334" -u XXXX -p XX
--intensity 13
--shaders 2048
--thread-concurrency 8192
--gpu-engine 1040
--gpu-memclock 1500
--lookup-gap 2
-g 2
-w 256
--auto-fan --temp-target 75 --temp-overheat 80 --temp-cutoff 88
--load-balance
thank you for any help!!!
EDIT: while I was writing I had a crash but It was the driver and could recover. so definitely is the driver. Can I trust the tessmark test and the shadertoy test to discard any hardware problem??
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other refund achieved, google wallet gave me the money. Because they didn't bother to give any answer or may be the people who complaints on the forum are ignored.
Well i got my money thanks to google wallet I was wondering how is it going with the people who paid in bitcoins. They don't have any other way to push. that's why we need payment processors anyway. It doesn't matter you have a currency like bitcoin if you deal with fucking rat like emmanuel fucking clownhasher.
The people most damaged are bitcoin payers.
And this rats pretend to take bitcoin mining to everyone, doing like this will take mining to shit...
I hope the police fraud department is knocking your door soon!!
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Arock did you heard of cognitive mining? if you don't you it's ran by a 12 or 16 years old boy and is doing much better than CH. He doesn't have the same money, nor hashrate or equipments. You know what he does good? customer support, planification and transparency...
The Ceo of CH is a retarded playing to manage business with a bunch of monkeys that just want money.
It is as plain and simple as this, if you cannot deliver proper service to your customers, you STOP taking more customers, until you know for sure you can do it... and for deliver a don't mean on time... I mean a good service...
CH is just improvising the next step...
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The company's newsletters and radio shows explain their intentions well. The three "reparations" of extended contracts, some waived administration fees, and the current discount of half-off contracts is fair. I don't believe they will need to declare bankruptcy. The power behind having over 1000 clients' payments to work with along with the mining "beast" they have created means they will stay competitive in the industry and people will get paid.
Have some patience these investments are not "get rich quick" schemes. When buying a contract that says "2-years" one should make a mental note that its a 2-year contract and not a "win big in a couple of months!" contract. You might as well go hit the slot machines if that's your mentality.
I don't know how long you've been around bitcoin mining. But there is something clear, the biggest part of your ROI you'll make it at the beginning, because of the difficult is the lowest you'll expect. Don't expect get more the second year than the first one. So if something is true, for the price that we've paid for that service we'll never get the same amount of bitcoins than buying it directly. So if you still think this is profitable.... make the maths again. seriuosly... I don't think they'll bankruptcy, just hope they learn to do things better. A lower their prices as it is a theft t those prices. So again at those prices yes they are stealing to people and always will be someone that makes the wrong investment as I did. And CH will make a huge mone i'm sure of it, but not their customers... |
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Cloudhasher answered one of my questions but the vast majority of them he hasn't answered. He said customer service will answer questions but they continue not to respond. My payments are down to less than .04 bitcoins per month in the lifetime contract and I have no idea why, it is very confusing the hashrates promised and delivered related to payment and he won't explain it himself nor at all clearly on the company's website.
Suggestion if it makes sense to him: Hire a writer who understands bitcoins and bitcoin miners to simply explain on the cloudhasing website how the hashrates (and what they mean) relate to payments. I realize that is difficult but laypersons and customers like myself are very confused.
He says there will be customer service and there isn't. He says there will be daily payments and there aren't. Payments go down almost to zero but it is not clear exactly why. It's like you don't trust your customers because you refuse to share real information with them.
The payments are so small for a number of reasons. The 2 most important reasons are: They lied about the expected returns on their website (now removed). They delivered late and network difficulty increased. The vast majority of the return would have been at the beginning of the contract, when they weren't mining or were mining at very % hash rate. Lied? Why would we lie? We would make a lot less money and would not have the number of return customers if thats our ploy. Look admittedly the difficultly estimate we had were lower than the actual. A lot of people missed this estimate including hardware manufacturers. We cannot overlook that BTC price is almost 4 times greater than when we estimated 100. Also late delivery of equipment affected almost every bitcoin miner with some sill to receive hardware. Bottom line is that we are closer than ever to our 110 terahash target. If you have a cloudhashing account and have an issue, pm me and I will take care of it. Cheers So that's the way you solve the problems emmanuel? We have to deal with you not customer support. Is this seriously for you? I think this is just a game for you. Why don't you speak with James the guy who answered my email and never answer again. I gave a chance, I wrote the email with my concerns, part of the answer was just an insult and misrepectful. Your compensation didn't satisfy my expectations. Actually is a joke. So I think I have the right of a refund, I asked nice and didn't get an answer. So the nice way is over. So yes I got an issue with CH. I'm still waiting for a lot of answers, but I don't what are them, I just want to get far away from you. But if BTW you want to drop some of your "TRANSPARENCY" in here and help new customers to trust you. Can you explain how your reinvestment plan works? something concrete, like we'll give you XX GH/s for aech BTC you put in your RRP... and we will give it to you weekly... for example... I'm still waiting a simple answer like that.... so please... start talking or shut the **** up |
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Hi All,
Newsletter & Customer Support
Will be sending out an newsletter sometime today to address some technical issues we have been having. On a support front, we have added Christina to our support team and she has been clearing a whole backlog of customer support tickets. We are adding an additional 2 to our support team this month so overall should be much better in our turnaround time to you guys.
Pool Speed
The pool is operating closer to the 100+ terahash we were targeting. We will be adding more hashing power in the coming weeks.
50% discount
We are sill running this for all customers for another week.
We are hiring
If you are passionate about technology and bitcoin and wouldn't mind relocating to our bitcoin campus in Austin texas :-) Drop us a line with your CV. We are currently looking for the following
1) Customer service - previous experience in a similar role is desirable. Training would be made available.
2) Web designer - portfolio of previous work. css, html expert (python experience a plus).
3) Technical support - excellent working knowledge of bitcoin & mining.
You must be available to start immediately.
Kind regards
"1) Customer service - previous experience in a similar role is desirable. Training would be made available." Let us hope that such "training" would be from an outside source because hitherto, Cloudhashing has not demonstrated that it even knows the meaning of the term, causing one to wonder just who needs the training. My $.02. Why don't you close down? that would be better to all bitcoiners. You are just a fucking joke EDIT: please keep giving your feedback to this people if you had any issue https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=90645 |
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And now we have to deal with all this smart ass guys that said it was an scam. Yes ok, we read that, so what. nobody is asking for your empathy, nobody is asking to do, or say nothing.
So I'm still wondering what you all expect with that comments... here we are the people who has been affected trying to do something and help each other... not asking for enlighten us you masters of the bitcoin.
So please cut the crap, I think we all know this move was bad... are you expecting we admire you??
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I've left my comment on the youtube video and on the future money trends post, I think we all should explain our experience as well... by a post like this I bought my contract... then I got the reality was something very different. |
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What is my best course of action here? I paid with bitcoin /bitpay, non UK citizen. Had complete radio silence for some days now.
I guess you should go to small claims court, it doesn't matter if you are uk citizen. As their are a uk based company they are under the uk law. here you can read about it and make steps you need to go to small claims court. It could be like a 2 or 3 months process. |
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I don't think they knew the equipment was going to be late. Did any of us know when some of us ordered from Butterfly Labs? I think they we're lied to by the manufacturers just like how they lied to all of us. I also concur, I don't think their intent was fraud or Scam. I just think that this is a company that got way to big to fast. They tried to do to much to quickly. I think it's a company that could be better managed and a company that needs better communication with their customers. When they have issues, they should be speaking up, and not in this forum, they should be communicating to their customers! We all have email!
Customers should be notified during every step of the way on everything that's going on. they should be giving them updates if the pool is down, if upgrades are being done, payout issues, website issues, or any other issues, upgrades or announcements. I hate the fact that they just keep their customers in the dark. it really bothers me. Yesterday, the pool was down all day, not one peep from them about the situation.
To say something positive about them, there are flaws but I do get paid when the system actually works. They did pass on more GH as promised and it does look like I will probably pass my ROI on my July Contract. Having said all that, I don't think their intent is fraudulent (having looked at blockchain, the last bitcoin payout was 487BTC or over $120,000 USD to their customers),
That tells me their intent is to run a legitimate business, they just need better management personnel who can handle the everyday stuff and Public relations. I hope they can get pass this and steer this ship towards the right direction before it sinks. as being part of the bitcoin community, we should hope that they succeed, bring more people to bitcoin and create more awareness. Their advertising has brought more people to bitcoin everyday. It's efforts like this that bring more awareness and demand for bitcoin. The price of bitcoin will go up with more demand. We need to think about that.
I'm sure we will see a price adjustment soon on their offers and like always, people will jump on like usual.
I agreed with your points (they don't know anything about customer care!!!), but they sold september contract while late june contracts weren't delivered, they should wait to have the hardware, they didn't care about the money, because they didn't have to pay. Totally agree with you Cryptocrazy, but the point is and what I meant is what chinchs say. I bought my september contract when they were not able to delivere july contracts. So they kept selling and selling and selling. Maybe they didn't know for sure, but they were aware that september contracts might not be able to delivere. But they kept selling so for me that is fraud, maybe is not for a judge or a court. But If you are selling something while you cross your fingers wishing be able to deliver it... |
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Just a quick comment on the subject of 'fraud', having been through this with lawyers in relation to one of my business investments in the Fiat world.
To prove fraud you need to prove intent, that is to say the party knew they could not meet their claims or obligations and therefore deliberately took money under pretences they knew could not be met. If however a business or investment fails because the circumstances changed (chips were delayed, network hash rose far faster than expected) then it is not fraud, just bad luck or bad judgement.
Many businesses and investements fail, mainly because of poor management or external factors, only a small handful are fraudulent and proving that is usually very hard.
OK it's good to know that, but actually I think they did so. They knew all the time that equipments where not to be delivered on time, already happend with july contracts but they still kept selling. Prove that is complicated. Any way the service is not being as described. Actually there's not RRP. |
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Finally!!!!
Refunded $248.47
Got my refund! After google mediation, they decided to refund my money.
Did they bill you in GBP like me?? or they billed you that amount in USD? They bill me in GBP: £164,96 and they refund you the same amount of GBP? I didn't saw it in the credit card yet, but in my google wallet account I have a refund for -£164,96, I will let you know when I had the money back. well the they refund you the same amount and currency they charge you. |
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Finally!!!!
Refunded $248.47
Got my refund! After google mediation, they decided to refund my money.
Did they bill you in GBP like me?? or they billed you that amount in USD? They bill me in GBP: £164,96 and they refund you the same amount of GBP? |
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Finally!!!!
Refunded $248.47
Got my refund! After google mediation, they decided to refund my money.
Did they bill you in GBP like me?? or they billed you that amount in USD? |
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