2014年第二届广深比特币论坛宣言
Declaration of the Second Guangzhou and Shenzhen Bitcoin Forum In 2014

也许有一天，就像离不开空气、阳光、水一样，人类也离不开电、互联网，或许还有比特币。
The human race can't live without air, water and the Sun. In modern times we grew further dependences on technical innovations like electricity and the Internet. Someday, we may add bitcoin to such a short list.


用宽容消除偏见，用自信笑纳批评，尊重每个人的选择，这是比特币折射的精神。
Tolerance dissolves prejudice, a confident conviction welcomes all criticism, freedom of choice is treasured for individuals. Such are the spirits of the Bitcoin movement.


摒除一切意识形态的解读，因为这悖离它本质的技术意义。
Ideological debates do not form our essence, Bitcoin is a technology in the end.


之所以爱好，是因为相信它吻合理性之美。
We appreciate it, because of its unique and rational elegance.

之所以相信，是因为它符合内心的童真追求。
We believe in it, because of its appeal to our inner child, forever in pursuit of useful simplicity.

比特币的去中心化思想，为人类未来提供更广阔的可能。
The idea of decentralization opens up so many opportunities for human societies of every kind.

我们认为，任何产业都需要在法律监管下前行；我们也相信，比特币的技术创新终将被人们所接受。
We support proper regulation for every industry including Bitcoin, and we firmly believe the Bitcoin technological innovation will be embraced by all of us as a whole.


如果说比特币有一个伟大的理想，那就是：让每个人的生活变得更美好。
If we were to have a vision for the future, it will be, everyone's life will be just a little better.

How do you take 5%-10% miner profit ?

When I mine 100 coins, 5 or 10 coins will be taken by pools ?

Really sad to hear that, thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends.

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价格已经有了啊。

BAF trade stopped,  we bought back all shares at price 0.01 BTC.

Because the price of BTC going up too fast, we can't buy back the original amount, so we decided to close the fund earlier.

As a shareowner, the most important thing, they hope the OP may take good care of their assets and not to encounter any scram.

We are also shareowners, we lost 35 BTCs on several shares such as Labcoin, SAI, CPTM, so we know that feelings.

We are sorry we can't make more money for our shareowners, however, we will keep our promise to take care of shareowners' assets.

So, if you are shareowners of BAF, please notice this thread or BAF announcement on Cryptostocks during the following three days.

Though we lost some BTCs, it is OK, many people trust us and help us a lot.

We are in charge of a little private artraging fund, which is from RMB => USD => BTC => RMB, it is easy to operate.

And we are also planning another project, which is really a good idea, so we will be back a couple months later.

Thanks to all shareowners, thanks to everyone who trust us and help us.

BYE

We thought of buying and selling BTC at once, but there is still one step to transfer a half fund in USD to exchange with low price.

If the price go up during the transferring time, we will encounter the same problem as what we met now.

BTC => RMB => USD => BTC, the last step is the most dangeous.

RMB => USD => BTC => RMB, this is which we did before,  it is easy to operate because the two steps USD => BTC => RMB can be finished during one or two hours.

Yeah, you are right, now we encounter a big problem.

We can't buy back the amount we sold.

If there is no chance to buy back, the fund will be closed.

Thank you.

Yes, you are right, we considered that before.

We thought we sold btc at a very high price yesterday, but we are wrong. There are too much crazy and rich people in China.

Next time we will do the arbitraging in this way.

We apologize to shareowners. If this arbitraging process loses some BTCs, we will pay for the loss.

Yeah, we will.

We hold our btc on OKCOIN.com now.

We will sell all btc out within 12 hours, then we will update the arbitraging progess information.

It is down, from china.

Yes, you are right.

We are also waiting for the verification of cryptostock.


Bitcoin Forum time: November 17, 2013, 01:05:06 PM

We got Advanced verification from Cryptostocks just now.

We think the most imorportant thing in the btc share market is to keep the value of btc instead of being stolen by someone else.

We will do this for shareowners. 

Maybe you are not satisfied with the first dividend.

Given two choices, the one is less dividend, however, your btc is safe;  the other is high dividend at first, when more shareowners come in, the OP run away or release bad news, let the price of shares go down to zero.

What is your choice?

As for the time of arbitration round.

Because of different transferring method, the average time between arb. rounds will vary from 2 days - 15 days.

If we bought btc-e code, this is the fasted way to transfer USD to btc-e.com, however, we can't do it now because the code's additaional profit is more expensive than our expected profit. For example, the code price from RMB to USD is 6.7 now, however, the offical exchage rate from RMB=>USD is 6.12. So the man sold the code may make 9.4% profit, which is higher than our expected profit 5-6%. We can't take it.

So, we have to transfter USD by International Wire Transfer, which will cost us 1% or more. The whole time may be 15 days.

Thank you. That is a mistake, we forgot to fill the whole sentence completely and we rewrote the announement within 3 minutes.

We bought some shares before, and we lost all investment and went through bad feelings.

So we want to be good OPs and consider more for shareowners.

After consideration, we don't want to change share market now. The reasons are as following:

(1) There are some scams on CryptStocks, because they don't check projects' possiblity and the OP's experiences.

However, this is why our project was listed on it. We didn't have any remarkable experiences and we still had a chance.

(2) Whether a project is a scam or not, it depends on the OPs of projects instead of share market.

If we can respect all shareowners' rights and don't take any money which doesn't belong to us ,we still can get good reputation on CryptStocks.

So we promised to buy back all shares at price 0.01 BTC if the fund is closed oneday, so that our shareowners would lose nothing.

However, we may make less money than we expected before. It is OK for us, we will get good reputation and we can list other projects with more profits to make money.

Yes, we also noticed this, so thanks to all shareowners.

we will do our best to keep these assets and get more profits.

Thank you for you report, It is fine now. We changed the url link from "https://" to "http://"

Thank you very much.

We sent our passport twice last week, but we can't receive any information from CrytoStocks.

The fist time is at 11/11/2013


The second time is at 14/11/2013


Now we are waiting for the reponse from CrytoStocks.