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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. |
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Hmmm...it seems a cheerleader is oblivious to the fact that just like most crypto project, Sumo is open source. Heck, it's literally a copy of Monero for chissake which is truly and idealistically an open source and decentralized project at its very core. That means it's anybody's business if they so choose to participate in whatever manner...unless, of course, the cheerleaders and their bosses are actually making this their own pet project for their own personal benefit in the guise of being open source to camouflage their true intention; and the rest of us are regarded by them as expendable. So when a cheerleader tell off a participant of their "supposedly" open source project to "mind his business" and stay away from their pet project, it's actually a Freudian slip of their true intention.
Cases in point:
1. The exorbitant Sumokoin premine of 10% of the coin supply (about 9 million coins thereby eventually enriching themselves)
2. cheerleaders behaving like a pack of rabid dogs ganging up senselessly on even the slightest of criticism of their pet project that would eventually enrich them like nobody's business.
@Visdude ... you should not say that here. The sumokoin folks don't like other people asking questions about the premine. Be careful... And question like that will be met with the iron fist of FUD. But you got to give the Sumokoin folks (if there is more than one) one thing... they did manage to pull it off... either for the sake of sumokoin or personal benefits. Although there is one thing that's actually very true... they do need help. Commits on Sumokoin (core) are a scarce commodity and I would claim that maybe 99% of the code base is identical to monero's code base (2016/2017 version). Some packages renamed, a few changes here and there...but if you use a good tool to compare both, you might be surprised. https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/graphs/code-frequencyI think it's more than 99% but you don't see it in the code-frequency because a lot of changes to the monero code were incorporated in the initial commit on github. This code frequency graph also doesn't show the work that is done on the other sumokoin repositories. The devs favor doing development in their own branches and pulling big changes into the sumokoin code base. More than 99%? Point taken... I did a compare and realized that it's mostly the different copyright headers, adjustments regarding the genesis block, emission rate, etc. I didn't bother to count the lines  Although I do believe that there were changes made to monero which should also be incorporated into sumo. Since devs decided to move files into different packages (e.g. account.cpp, etc.), it only makes his(/their) life(s) harder merging some of the newer features, bugfixes, and optimizations. That said, Sumo folks should really get a little more relaxed. Not all questions are spreading FUD. Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine. Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic. |
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Why so low price? A lot of investors by 1 EDL for 1000USD. Because good coin name and big potential, this enough for this rich man!  Lol just don't fly away... |
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Hmmm...it seems a cheerleader is oblivious to the fact that just like most crypto project, Sumo is open source. Heck, it's literally a copy of Monero for chissake which is truly and idealistically an open source and decentralized project at its very core. That means it's anybody's business if they so choose to participate in whatever manner...unless, of course, the cheerleaders and their bosses are actually making this their own pet project for their own personal benefit in the guise of being open source to camouflage their true intention; and the rest of us are regarded by them as expendable. So when a cheerleader tell off a participant of their "supposedly" open source project to "mind his business" and stay away from their pet project, it's actually a Freudian slip of their true intention.
Cases in point:
1. The exorbitant Sumokoin premine of 10% of the coin supply (about 9 million coins thereby eventually enriching themselves)
2. cheerleaders behaving like a pack of rabid dogs ganging up senselessly on even the slightest of criticism of their pet project that would eventually enrich them like nobody's business.
@Visdude ... you should not say that here. The sumokoin folks don't like other people asking questions about the premine. Be careful... And question like that will be met with the iron fist of FUD. But you got to give the Sumokoin folks (if there is more than one) one thing... they did manage to pull it off... either for the sake of sumokoin or personal benefits. Although there is one thing that's actually very true... they do need help. Commits on Sumokoin (core) are a scarce commodity and I would claim that maybe 99% of the code base is identical to monero's code base (2016/2017 version). Some packages renamed, a few changes here and there...but if you use a good tool to compare both, you might be surprised. https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/graphs/code-frequency |
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Wow... support.ipbc.io pool hashrate @ 62.9 Mhs, Network Hashrate @ 37.08 Mhs. Time for difficulty adjustment to kick in.
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I just downloaded and compiled the latest version from Github, v1.0.1 in Ubuntu 16.04 and it synced fine and I ran the graft-wallet-cli and that works fine also.
So its been running about an hour and this shows up:
2018-02-17 04:45:59.232 [P2P5] WARN global src/cryptonote_core/cryptonote_core.cpp:1281 **********************************************************************
2018-02-17 04:45:59.232 [P2P5] WARN global src/cryptonote_core/cryptonote_core.cpp:1282 Last scheduled hard fork time shows a daemon update is needed now.
2018-02-17 04:45:59.232 [P2P5] WARN global src/cryptonote_core/cryptonote_core.cpp:1283 **********************************************************************
Whats the deal with that? Those i.p.'s need to update?
There is no code to update to.... so why the warning? Could GRAFT Devs please take care of this? Don't just fork a coin and rename it...pls also remove stuff that isn't needed. |
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Not that it should make any difference but the graphics are dreadful. Looks a wee bit novice.
Not saying the project or codeword is, only the graphics. IMO.
Yes, my design skills are average at most  However, design can be quickly updated and if there is someone who wants, it can propose a new design and I will happily code it. You might as well just use the Sumokoin or any other monero fork's wallet and change it so it works with EDL. That's how others do it...not sure why you want to reinvent the wheel... But an A PLUS for effort...even if the UI's look & feel is ... well... not so good yet. |
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I saw already the Image of the redesigned ANN in discord. Also the look of the wallet very nice flat and i think you have to be perfectionist and want to offer a wallet without any bugs. I think you guys are working hard to realize what u promise. If u`ll be able to bring the micro payment system and so on to daily use next year i think this project is really promising.
The sadness is people in edl community dont understand that good thinks dont come out of the box. Just want to make fast money. Really brainless. I believe in what u are doin and appriciate your work. Go on like this and believer will be high rewarded. Not today or tomorrow but in next 2 years crypto will be big. Also edl.
Greetings from germany
The problem is rather the communication to the community. Dont give aggressive timelines which will not be met.. Better to give conservative dates and meet the deadlines. If you would hire a professional for a specific service and the work should be completed in two weeks but after three weeks you are told it will take another week to complete the task, wouldn’t you be pissed? Mining is also an investment therefore miners are not happy if milestones are not realized. Thanks for the clarification. I guess I "over-read" that part. Good luck with the upcoming GUI Wallet release and exchange listings. |
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Devs...was there a premine for edollar? First block shows 305 millions coins as output. I was under the assumption there was no premine?
Just asking...
hash outputs size [kB] version
1d976c186417d1923061ce64e613fa0f466086b52436b7986d6d2c165a2191d1 305312773.000000 136808414554.3281 1
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Project 's сode was copied from github and coin renamed from monero to edollar. Nothing new at all. Maybe logo... . But for IPO need to pay to market... It is clear that nigerian hardworker lost last chance to get some real cents... Now the world have about 1200 shitcoins. In september will be about 10000... And price for market entrance is growing day by day. Now a lot of users understand this. Statistic http://pool.electronicdollar.org/: 25.01.18 - 110 miners 26.01.18 - 90 miners 27.01.18- 83 miners . . . 27.08.18 - 0 miners It's the community that drives a currency. Look at SUMOKOIN. "Code was copied from github and coin renamed from monero to" (in that case) SUMOKOIN. What is the big difference, dude? Many coins are based on monero or bytecoin. Why don't you troll in the monero forum and tell them "Code was copied from github and renamed from bytecoin to" (in that case) MONERO? Do your homework before you start spamming and trolling. It's not what the codebase was derived from that matters. Actually, it's the willingness to implement new and unique features. Look at SUMOKOIN and tell me what the difference between SUMOKOIN and MONERO is?! SILCH... They have provided sub-addresses and a wallet (also based on MONERO). Yet, they are at 5 dollars and were at 20some cents last year. I am positive EDOLLAR dev will implement one or the other feature that are not available in other coins and that is what will make the edollar unique. If not...well...then it will just be another project. Why do you even post in this forum if you don't believe the coin has some value? Strange... and what is unique feature in this coin? At the moment...as far as I can tell...SILCH. But they do have a roadmap. But that doesn't mean that they are not going to come up with something although I do believe that they need more core devs to really do the work. Some things, they just didn't take the time to do. One example would be the renaming of the service file. It's still called monero Let's sit and wait... at the end of the day, we should give them a chance. |
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Core devs have fixed the first from day 1 and the second will never happen cause Sumokoin has a different genesis_hash from Monero The check code will be removed though just to clean up and avoid further confusion So no worries there! However thank you for notifying! No worries...thx for the quick reply. |
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Enough now! We talk about a formal mistake here. Not no credits at all!
Don't give people the impression there was no credit. This is wrong.
Absolutely, SUMOKOIN dev have repeatedly emphasized that SUMOKOIN is based on MONERO. I agree with you there. It wasn't my intention to "create" that impression. It's just a formal matter and they shouldn't have changed the copyright notice in violation of the license. |
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DMCA Takedown to Sumokoin GithubGuys, as you may already know, in an sudden move, a dev from The Monero Project filed a DMCA to take down Sumokoin's git hosted at Github without prior notice. To meet the requirements, we'd already amended copyright notices but they disagreed with some copyright dates where we only add the copyright notices to files we had modified as follows: Copyright (c) 2017, SUMOKOIN Copyright (c) 2014 - 2017, The Monero Project Please note that we'd referred to "The Monero Project" at all files before, yet that appeared not enough to some devs there. While they have the right to correct copyright claim at any file they contributed code to, we expected a different approach to resolve disputes (via Issue submission or direct emailing to our devs). DMCA takedown should be the last one to do, I believe, especially for a project under a liberal license and having some noble missions. For now, we temporarily moved our source code to GitLab: https://gitlab.com/Sumoprojects/sumokoinThe case is being discussed by community at Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7tboly/can_we_get_a_clarification_from_monero_devs_on/Sorry for any inconvenience. Break all ties with Monero. And make an official announcement Maybe, SUMOKOIN Dev should wonder why the Monero Project have taken this step. You can't pretend to be the author and hope nothing happens. As 99.9 % is copyright Monero, they are right to demand that. Copyright is MONERO, especially on the files SUMOKOIN DEV never touched. It always comes back and bites you in the ... |
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Project 's сode was copied from github and coin renamed from monero to edollar. Nothing new at all. Maybe logo... . But for IPO need to pay to market... It is clear that nigerian hardworker lost last chance to get some real cents... Now the world have about 1200 shitcoins. In september will be about 10000... And price for market entrance is growing day by day. Now a lot of users understand this. Statistic http://pool.electronicdollar.org/: 25.01.18 - 110 miners 26.01.18 - 90 miners 27.01.18- 83 miners . . . 27.08.18 - 0 miners It's the community that drives a currency. Look at SUMOKOIN. "Code was copied from github and coin renamed from monero to" (in that case) SUMOKOIN. What is the big difference, dude? Many coins are based on monero or bytecoin. Why don't you troll in the monero forum and tell them "Code was copied from github and renamed from bytecoin to" (in that case) MONERO? Do your homework before you start spamming and trolling. It's not what the codebase was derived from that matters. Actually, it's the willingness to implement new and unique features. Look at SUMOKOIN and tell me what the difference between SUMOKOIN and MONERO is?! SILCH... They have provided sub-addresses and a wallet (also based on MONERO). Yet, they are at 5 dollars and were at 20some cents last year. I am positive EDOLLAR dev will implement one or the other feature that are not available in other coins and that is what will make the edollar unique. If not...well...then it will just be another project. Why do you even post in this forum if you don't believe the coin has some value? Strange... |
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I wonder what I am doing wrong. Optimized version of stak-amd is getting around 5670 hashes (3 vega 64s @ around 215 watts per card).
CAST_XMR ist at around 5680 hashes [Hash Rate Avg: 5685.2 H/s]. That makes a difference of about 10 hashes on avg.
Any settings you can recommend so I can get more out of my vega 64s?
Did you read through this thread? Also - standard response - I encourage you to read through the following threads/guides: Vega thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2002025.0Cast thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2256917.0vega.miningguides.com Sure...because everybody has the time to read all these posts again! Thanks for nothing anyway. |
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Wallet KB3 does not exist. Your KB3 if you buy them,converted to B3 in the translation in the wallet. What is the point in KB3 except for fraud,do not understand. Let them explain the developers. 1 KB3 is simply 1000 B3. It's a display unit, and you can choose that in the wallet if you want. It's just like 1kg is 1000 grams. Please explain how it contributes to fraud, that makes no sense. Explain. Exchanges will be traded KB3,I understand. Price B3 1 Satoshi today. So the price KB3 1000 Satoshi. But the price is 1 Satoshi does not allow to be lower! And the price is 1000 Satoshi can easily drop to 1 Satoshi!. I did not understand my apprehension? I buy B3 and KB3 do not. And on exchanges is trading KB3. No matter what you're talking about simple mathematical representation. The fact remains. If KB3 will cost a little less than 1000 Satoshi, this is a loss for all those who bought B3 for Satoshi. What are you doing this? What you do not like the 6 billion coins B3? This is a normal amount!. No need to listyowati exchanges KB3. Only B3! I do not understand! If I understand this correctly, you will list 1000 b3s as 1 KB3. What is that going to do to my investment? I have bought many coins at 1 Satoshi? Would it not be wiser to simply leave the unit as is and let the market take care of itself? I would hope that (at least), 1 kb3 will be listed as 1000 Satoshi. Considering the market cap of around USD 69000, it's very dangerous to have major technical hickups, get delisted and change the unit on the exchanges. Many people expect the prices to fall and loss of their investment. Technically speaking, the b3 cannot be traded for less than 1 satoshi. However, with your change of unit, a b3 may eventually just be worth 1000th of a satoshi. Well done, folks. That is certainly not a way to conduct business. It has traded for less than 1 satoshi on Coinsmarkets for a long time. So yes, technically speaking it can and it has. The exchanges normally removes all sale and buy orders when they change a trading pair. So 1kB3 will not be "listed" at 1000 satoshi. It will be listed at whatever the first order is. there ya go kick ppl back down .... great progression B3 cause trading at kb3 was so great for the coin b4 Gents...I would not call it a scam based on what I have seen...but you could call it a major hickup! I still can't wrap my head around the 70 billion b3s which were supposedly put up for sale on an exchange. How is that possible? Did the staking not work out as planned? Anyway... I would recommend nobody invest money that s/he really depends on in any crypto currency. For me it's HODL time and I will see where this goes... As you can't sell on coinexchange.io at the moment anyway, you might as well sit back and enjoy the ride. If it is what some people believe, it will be an experience to learn from... Translation: Give the folks at B3 a chance to fix what's broken... And to the friendly author who mentioned that this is definitely not a scam: I really appreciate your support for the coin but maybe the dev team (or the Program Manager) should be a little more forthcoming with explanations to potential investors. That would certainly calm down some people. From what I get, we didn't get a heck of a lot of information as to what happened and what's going on. For my part, I would like to see more transparency. Still...I am willing to wait and see what's going to happen. Even if I could, I wouldn't sell my B3s right now! |
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Wallet KB3 does not exist. Your KB3 if you buy them,converted to B3 in the translation in the wallet. What is the point in KB3 except for fraud,do not understand. Let them explain the developers. 1 KB3 is simply 1000 B3. It's a display unit, and you can choose that in the wallet if you want. It's just like 1kg is 1000 grams. Please explain how it contributes to fraud, that makes no sense. Explain. Exchanges will be traded KB3,I understand. Price B3 1 Satoshi today. So the price KB3 1000 Satoshi. But the price is 1 Satoshi does not allow to be lower! And the price is 1000 Satoshi can easily drop to 1 Satoshi!. I did not understand my apprehension? I buy B3 and KB3 do not. And on exchanges is trading KB3. No matter what you're talking about simple mathematical representation. The fact remains. If KB3 will cost a little less than 1000 Satoshi, this is a loss for all those who bought B3 for Satoshi. What are you doing this? What you do not like the 6 billion coins B3? This is a normal amount!. No need to listyowati exchanges KB3. Only B3! I do not understand! If I understand this correctly, you will list 1000 b3s as 1 KB3. What is that going to do to my investment? I have bought many coins at 1 Satoshi? Would it not be wiser to simply leave the unit as is and let the market take care of itself? I would hope that (at least), 1 kb3 will be listed as 1000 Satoshi. Considering the market cap of around USD 69000, it's very dangerous to have major technical hickups, get delisted and change the unit on the exchanges. Many people expect the prices to fall and loss of their investment. Technically speaking, the b3 cannot be traded for less than 1 satoshi. However, with your change of unit, a b3 may eventually just be worth 1000th of a satoshi. Well done, folks. That is certainly not a way to conduct business. |
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Rumor has it that there will be a TV show on crypto currencies on CBS. The show is supposed to provide in-depth coverage of currencies like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Monero and some of Monero's forks, probably incl. SUMOKOIN. |
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