You are correct, it was in its original form two separate coins intended to use the same ECP technology, created by the same devs, however, in the end, it was a fork to a new chain where both projects would amalgamate their respective communities into one streamlined platform.

Boxy had issues with the chain and the devs were stretched thin over two separate platforms, thus it was required to increase progress towards the development, it made far more sense to do so. Another team approached the Devs for the Boxy brand at the very end, the Boxy project now has no affiliation with Artax (XAX).



Patience  , there is still a lot of time left for those prices, this is a new direction, and Artax itself is only a few months old as a platform. You mention Neo price, which is a coin that has been around for over 2 years and gained further traction after rebranding from antshares.


It will come, as soon as the swap has settled, and development begins to burst into fruition.


I completely agree to an extent, nobody likes a faceless entity, it disconnects us from a trust relationship, and is often the result of blame culture. Anonymity can often be used as the "big book" to hide behind or pass when there is blame.
 
The banks sought to become faceless corporations for years, and still do, however, it is one of the reasons the world dislikes banks, one of many.  The world evolved its currencies to break free from the establishment, then I agree that maybe crypto devs should evolve the business model with it.

Otherwise, we are all following the same path to the iron law of failure. I know more and more devs are becoming conscious of this, so hey, who knows, it could be a future surprise possibility.

Exciting news from the development team over on Discord, take a look here;

https://discord.gg/Y3FFt8


 The new Artax Platform will offer the following -;

1. Realtime Asset and Crypto-Currency Exchange allowing for Atomic Swaps. Trade any other lightening network compatible currency with Artax.
2. 0-Day Marketplace. Buying and selling of goods and services.
3. Strip shop functionality (the first of its kind): Virtual shopping integrated with Samsung Gear VR
4. Faster Transaction times - up to 500tx/sec
5. Integrated storage add-ons for portable devices. Portable devices will be able to store data on the blockchain directly using ECP, our proprietary encrypted and de-centralized methodology. This is the by far the most exciting of the features we plan for the beta.[/li][/list]


Artax Masternode holders will also have the capacity to vote on the Platform and create their own tokens, contracts, and sub-currencies.

The more masternodes you have, the more votes you will have. The TOTAL XAX Supply will remain as 20,000,000XAX on the Platform. We expect to reach halfway before the end of the year.

At the end of 2018. There will be only 10,000,000 XAX left to be scratched into existence. XAX will become rarer and rarer. With the difficulty adjustment, this will allow the platform's master XAX currency to be self-sustainable until the year 2150.

The Artax Platform beta will have allowances for De-centralized, Easy-to-use, Encrypted messaging. Encompassing both NIST and AES spectrums. XAX will support both symmetric and a-symmetric block ciphers. The Artaxq algorithm (which everyone can test now in their current XAX Wallets)  is capable of using cryptographic keys of 128, 192, and 256 bits to encrypt and decrypt data in blocks of 128 bits. Artax Platform messaging will go one step further and allow for much larger encryption pass-throughs.

A vps will not be required for new scratching system, Masternodes will evolve and the term will no longer be used, you will have the ability to run multiple Artax platform wallets for scratching new XAX.

For highlighting you are a complete retard, you're welcome  


 Actually, a good percentage would agree that it is you that is pathetic making up accusations whining over $1000 with a complete lack of the ability to understand how things work. Many people lost more, many understand how crypto works, nobody else is crying.


 Nope, I'm not shilling here, I'm not shouting "moon", or "when lambo", or "buy now news coming" that is a shill, you really are stupid arent you? I'm merely highlighting your claims as false without evidence which factually they are....false



Still waiting for these facts, my guess is I'm going to have a long wait.


Finally, its run out of crap to talk, glad you are admitting that you are making the scam claim up in anger. If it's not a "deliberate orchestrated scam" then it's not a scam, a scam is defined as a dishonest scheme, the devs announced all there plans in agreement with the committee and community before they undertook the swap, absolutely nothing dishonest about that.


 There is Exaggerating a BIT, and then there is making completely fallacious claims to support your agenda, that makes you sir a complete Fudder. And again admitting to making some of your claims up.
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That you are indeed full of shit, ...sorry, its ok, like you say you had the "right to exaggerate a but"  

Enjoy your exaggerated but down in RIO  

 I like how you attempt to patronise anyone who does not agree in your favour, you're the comical genius in all this, with your lack of understanding, everybody can see that.  Ridiculous statements, and misinterpretations, and the fact you continually re-iterate your position while remaining invested, shouting crap like you know what you are saying when you clearly don't even understand the meaning of fluctuating, or you abbreviate return on investment as RIO   .

Yes I lost far more than you, I would have been happier if I only lost $1000, I was in Boxy from day one, I'm not happy about it for sure, however, I'm not going to bitch and whine like some over-privileged millennial child, I knew the risks, I accepted them upon any investment, now I must wait patiently, or sell at a loss and leave.

I'm not sure you realise how stupid you make yourself sound when you call it a scam without substantial evidence and tell people it's not worth running a masternode, and then say you have several masternodes running.

that my friend is the comedy gold in all of this.  

( This is fallacious, where is the logic in this statement? let me make it clear, let's say hypothetically it started at 5000 sats, then fell all the way to 200 sats, then went to 211 sats, then to 160 sats then to 148 sats then back to 160 sats. do you see where this is going?... that is fluctuation, volatile fluctuation to be precise. it does not matter if one day its 1 sat up or the next day its 1 sat down, that is fluctuation, Fact. I find it worrying that I had to spell that out for someone invested.)

=(prove it)

=(prove it)

=(Prove it)

(The swap is still currently underway, and yes you are correct the website needs sorting, however, the swap takes priority for now, as for the "team do not care" = Prove it)

(There are plenty of folk you could have approached to help with the linux side, there has been plenty of help on discord)

(That's because its innovative, and Developers have a right to protect their innovation in a space filled with rip off copy coins)

(RIO is a song by Duran Duran, and a 2011 children's movie, if you are referring to Return on Investment that is abbreviated as ROI and there are many coins with less ROI than XAX both new and established projects, like you say the other "comparable" coins have far more exposure.)



I can say you make claims "without solid proof", just as you MAKE claims without solid proof, you lost money in crypto, join the ever filling wagon, everyone here has lost something at some point.
here is a tip; sell up and move on, you make all these claims about how nobody should invest, then in the same breath say you are running several XAX masternodes.

you are toxic, and it is eating away at you.

I realise that replying to your fallacies is adding fuel to your ridiculous self-pity campaign, so this is the last I will comment to you, maybe you should reflect and think about doing the same, after all, what kind of person invested in a project seeks to discredit the projects name, they are only keeping away further outside investment, and will likely never see a return. That kind of behavior is self-destructive, you are just cutting off the nose to spite the face.

So best to sell up, if you are even invested at all.

fluctuate
verb
Meaning: rise and fall irregularly in number or amount.

All coins fluctuate, be it up by 1 sat or down by 1 sat, the only way they don't is if they are released at a given number or amount, and stay exactly at said number or amount.

Stop reiterating your experience, it does not clarify your position on this project any more than saying it the first time.


Mimicking a lot of your argument, without solid proof of your claims.

Let's start from the bottom shall we,


maybe it's you who reads only what he/she wants to see.

Crypto fluctuates in price all the time your point of checking the price at the announcement, then now, holds no value in a volatile platform.

There is no stupid argument, it was stated coins got burnt without announcement, they never, it was announced.

I never specifically aimed it at being a bot, I also indicated it could be a troll.

Why are you so triggered by a comment of elaboration, that is not even aimed at you? there could be two explanations for this;

A=the accounts belong to you, you set them up in a poor FUD attempt, and used it as leverage to draw people into petty disputes.

or

B= I'm living in your head rent free, this is why you feel the need to be triggered by any comment I leave.

Either way, you need to move on.

Actually, don't elaborate, as these are the very first posts your account has ever made, and are incoherent at best, ill put it down to a bot, or troll.

You are going to have to elaborate on your angle, what coins got burnt? are you talking about the swap and the supply reduction from 100m to just 20m? if so, then yes it was announced.

Am I correct in thinking, what was not sold at ICO will be burnt? if so what would the current circulating supply of Feirm be? thanks 

  Its ok nobody needs to take red023 seriously, he/she is probably not even invested here, take a look at their post history, it's hilarious.  Since joining in February they have just jumped into a whole plethora of master node coins announcement threads and called every last one out as a scam, for some reason or another.

For somebody who calls all master node coins a scam, I very much doubt he/she has any investment in any, seems its just a serial FUDster.

10/10 for imagination making up all those investment stories   thought it was strange being the only person complaining, in any Scam you get more than one complainer  

Makes a lot more sense now, as red023 calls out scam master node coins and began calling out Boxy, on the 24th without realising the links didn't work and the wallet wouldn't sync as it was during a swap period so lost traction on MN.online.
That's when he/she decided to strike out at it as a scam, then scratched the surface to see it was in a swap, so left it alone until he/she saw it losing traction again on MN.online and decided to call it out again with a fictitious story hence why the first post was

they had no idea of the backstory, as they had no prior knowledge of the coin or any investment.

They are basically a troll that watches MN.online and calls out coins losing traction as scams. They did not even know that it was actually Boxy that was created before Artax or either platforms application.

Nice try kiddo, rumbled now move along.

The only person I see doing any attacking here is yourself, you are attacking the devs, the community, the project, and anyone who does not share your opinion. Thousands of people are invested here, I only see you whining because you did not understand what you were getting into, as you said so yourself
Sell your supposed "scam" and move along, the crypto scene has enough green exasperating millennials, and you are educating nobody, as nobody in a correct frame of mind should listen to someone who "swapped and didn't know what I was swapping into".

Your scam claims are unsubstantiated, to say the least, you can write all the tl;dr posts you like, claiming whatever you like, at the end of the day the facts are;

Nobody forced you to swap your Boxy, you could have remained in the Boxy Project which aims to take a new direction, and a hard-fork with new Devs.
Nobody stole your coins.
Development is still active, as are the Devs, and the committee.


Crying like some over-privileged salty millennial about how you were "forced to swap" or how your "ROI is not enough" are no means to start triggering the Scam button, however, in a swap situation you won't be the first, nor last to complain in such a manner, I have seen the same old boring "poor me, I lost money posts" hundreds of times, at the end of the day all invested did, stop making it a narcissistic post about yourself for some attention.

The real reason the Boxy chain could not continue is that there were problems with the chain, that required too much maintenance, it was more efficient and from a practical standpoint to consolidate both platforms into one, thus allowing development to be more streamlined. I am not saying it was handled perfectly, however, it was transparent, and communication was more than adequate, nobody lied to you.

There was no initial investor sale of this coin, or are you referring to the recent swap? If so then you should already have your XAX if you performed the swap correctly.

The word scam might be a tad harsh, my idea of a scam is when the devs abscond with the pre-mine, not a merging of two platforms into one seamless project so the devs and committee can deliver a better product.

It is true it could have been handled better, however, Boxy had dropped massively even before the merger announcement, and it probably didn't help with the confusion, after a community member came forward to take over the Boxy project at the very last minute, that was poorly handled.

But, just because the price is not at an ATH, or that it's not raking in 10000% profit, you still can't call it a Scam, its a brand new direction and will require time, effort, and deliverables before you see any ROI, just like any investment in the "real world".

The Devs surnames are easily obtainable, Jack Coble and Amr Kokash, please try to do your research thoroughly, before triggering the "scam" accusation 

Please, tell me nobody here actually believes that this is genuinely Stocks.Exchange?
A Newbie account registered today.
Using such professional responses as ..."So, please, stop gossiping without accurate information"...

Sounds like a poor grammar troll account to me.

Why would you agree to purchase, Amazon vouchers from the bowels of bitcointalk, when you can purchase them from many reputable sites, such as

egifter.com, or Gyft.com.

It makes very little sense, apologies for your loss.

If you are an Escrow scammer, you have zero integrity, this also applies to known extortionists, BTCtalk negative rating abusers, and merit abusers.

You do not get a special pass privilege, through time served, or previous titles.

Definition of scam;

: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation.

Enough said.

Who remembers Jamie Dimon calling bitcoin a scam, then subsequently it dropped?
I do.
Who remembers the allegations, post the incident that JP.Morgan Chase was attempting to buy in?
I do.
Who is aware that JPMorgan Chase has a Github repository for a Cryptocoin named Quorum, based on Ethereum?
I am.
Who now believes the huge rise in Bitcoin after Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP.Morgan Chase made those scam claims, was solely down to global Bank investments?
I am starting to.
Who now thinks the banks made themselves the biggest players in the game (whales), so they could destroy decentralised currency reputation, and issue their own centralised Cryptocurrencies to keep in control of the worlds finances, people and financial trust in the system?
I do.

They are demonstrating a power, mass dumps, followed by, FUD on Bitcoin, however, every news article about the blockchain is positive, why?
Type Bitcoin in google right now it’s a sea of shit.
Type Blockchain however, well, let’s just say a future bed of roses.
Yet it’s the same technology.

They seek to destroy Bitcoin to replace it with their own cryptocurrencies.
The positive comments on Blockchain are so they can market their coins as Blockchain coins.
We may be about to see the very end of Bitcoin, however, I hope, I really do that we have an ace up our sleeves.
Don’t let the tyrants re-establish control.