Nice false equivalence tactics you shills.  You start with the premise that bitcoin is actually valid when it's not because it's designed to centralize and it's value proposition is supposed to be based on decentralization.  Therefore it has no actual value if going by fundamentals alone.  It's also not fungible, has built-in middlemen, and doesn't remove counter party risk, so the most it can be is a currency like dollars or airline miles and not money.  

As for silver, in the old days people transacted in coins minted by the state usually.  At this point in history people didn't have access to knowledge and technology to verify if the silver was real or not so they were transacting entirely on the basis of the state's insignia.  In other words, they were still using the equivalent of fiat.  However, in the 21st century the state's insignia is now irrelevant because it's very easy for the common man to test if the silver is real or not such as resonance test, specific gravity test, magnet test, etc.  There are even free phone apps where you can just ping the metal and the microphone picks it up and tells you if it's real .999 silver by the resonance.  

This means metals in the past were no different than fiat, but now metals are no longer fiat anymore.  Technology has allowed them to be assessed by anyone without the state's seal being required.  Worst case scenario, places like grocery stores would just use handheld xray units like this to detect metal content in seconds:

http://www.bruker.com/products/x-ray-diffraction-and-elemental-analysis/handheld-xrf/s1-titan-series/overview.html

So yea, welcome to the 21st century you fools, where metals became an even stronger form of money due to technology, while it's still impossible to create a decentralized digital currency, thus digital currency has no value.  

You people need to stop pretending it's even possible to create a decentralized cryptocurrency in the first place.  Nothing resembling a Nash equilibrium will EVER exist in these things, only an exposed power vacuum to be taken over by a monopoly man or cartel.  If Satoshi is not a govt stooge, this is why he's gone because it's a dead end and there's nothing he can do to fix it.  If he is a govt stooge, well you're probably not going to want to promote some propaganda tool to try and "de-cash" society to create a new slave control grid.  It's a lose/lose scenario regardless.

Ask a "millenial"? HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, let me consult some reverse evolution millenial children with mental disorders that check their iphone over 200 times per day on important financial matters.  No, we do not live in a "digital world" you millenial cucks. I keep seeing you people constantly spam this propaganda now (probably govt shills who want to de-cash society so they can have their slave control grid).  If your life is "digital" then you have no life because the digital world is mostly meaningless and imaginary.  Probably why Zerohedge ran a story the other day talking about how the suicide rate for all these dumb millenial kids is off the charts.

It doesn't matter what the millenial bolsheviks want.  There are concrete, objective traits that will always move the invisible hand of the market to a predetermined destination which anyone who is capabale of doing real fundamental analysis already knows the answer to.  You people have done literally zero homework on fundamental analysis and don't even know it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency in the first place. "Distributed"(meaningless), yea; "decentralized", no.

PoW is designed to centralize while PoS starts centralized and becomes even more so over time.  They should both be called proof of monopoly.

It sounds like someone needs to be liberated by the dodge challenger of freedom.

I would like to thank everyone for getting in nice and high before the short down to test the trend lines:

Stop asking the same question over and over.  All you have to do is manipulate whatever the market maker exchange is and the others follow.  It doesn't matter if Bitfinex has less market share than Gox.  If anything that just makes it easier for them to move price since people look to them to determine price in the west regardless.  A single entity/person has controlled the price on Bitfinex all the way from $200 to now the vast majority of the time.

We have a more effective solution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldZPwUW12g

This is why bitcoin is scary now.  There's all kinds of trailer park people and penny stock scam artists all over youtube and other venues that have no idea how bitcoin works (or is supposed to work but doesn't) spamming nonsense like this constantly.  Although Marcus is somewhat technically proficient and also pushes the same delusions, that the price can only go up and it's impossible to go down lol.

Listen shill, this thread is about obvious Bitfinex fraud, which no matter how hard you try you are not going to derail the thread from.  Your statement that bitcoin is guaranteed to increase to "trillions" while metals will go down when they're already at cost of production is also a joke.  Having said that, this thread is about Bitfinex fraud, not your other market delusions.

Litecoin dumped like someone jumping off a building soon as segwit activated (probably because segwit changes mostly nothing since lightning network will only work in a centralized manner).

The only thing interesting about the IMF is that enough goyim know malevolent, evil jews are running the media and financial institutions now that it's probably inevitable right wing death squads form to get rid of the parasites.

I think this whole thing is going to collapse like a house of cards once people figure out lightning network does not and never will work in a decentralized manner.  Literally NOTHING has changed in bitcoin in the last 5 years. Decentralization is not solved (it's completely centralized), scaling is not solved, the only thing that's solved is knowing a single entity (probably Bitfinex owners) control the price on their fraudulent exchange.


100% lie.  LOL "comparisons", you mean comparisons from paid shill pumpers like Antonopolous?  Bitcoin has far worse fundamentals than metals as money, nor is it even fungible so doesn't qualify as money in the first place.  You people have lied to yourself so many times you're starting to believe your own nonsense.  We're talking about imaginary super mario tokens vs real world goods here.  Since the fucking thing is imaginary, the most it can be is just an IOU.  Right now you can ditch your IOUs for something that actually does have value, but that will not always be the case.

It's laughable you have so many scamming children claming bitcoin is going to be the new world reserve currency when it has poor fundamentals as both money and currency.  It's useless as a settlement unit (money) due to having built in rent seeking middlemen (transaction validators) and doesn't remove counter party risk.  Those are attributes you find in things like fiat currencies, not real money.  It also performs poorly as a currency due to huge overhead from triple entry accounting (and Lightning network doesn't function in a decentralized manner so don't even give me that bs).  

It's designed to perform bad at anything you would want a monetary instrument to do while also not being fungible either.  But such things don't interest mindless children, all they care about is if Jim Cramer gives it a thumbs up or not.  Meanwhile, all the smart money in the world is buying low instead of high and getting metals while the Jewish banking ESF has manipulated them down to cost of production.  Metals are the Schelling point when faith wanes in debt based fiat bills, not bitcoin.

^Spoken like a true cuckold.  This has been a huge problem for thousands of years now and even if one generation of Jewish usurers and thieves dies off, they are immediately replace by a new one.  They always form a state within a state of their host nation then try to undermine and practice usury against them until you get rid of them.  It's a never ending cycle.  

At some point you have to recognize that if they refuse to police their own kind, you're required to make the Machiavellian choice of:  Okay, it's either going to be us or them.  Do I want to be a slave forever or get rid of them and live free?  This was the basis of the so called "final solution".  If you just throw one of their Bernie Madoffs in jail it doesn't even put a dent in them so that's pointless.  If you expel their entire population from your country - as so many people have done over 100 times now - they just take over a new country and use that population as cannon fodder to go to war against you based on their usual schemes and lies.

It is clear you have already acknowledged the Jewish problem in your own post.  Your only problem is that you're not a man, you're a cuckold, and would prefer to live as a slave rather than face the unpleasantries of dealing with the slave masters.

Congratulations for being the only non-idiot in the thread.  Bitcoin is a tool for them to try and keep people out of the highley strained metals market only being propped up temporarily by rehypothecation while also helping acclimate people into the de-cashing of society and integration into a cashless society control grid.  They'll allow bitcoin to go up a bit then mercilessly implode it and claim "Oh, so sad, that darn bitcoin is just not dependable and was used by too many launderers and criminals anyway.  We'll have to issue a government coin that's much more dependable with built in KYC so people won't lose money!"  

Too bad for them this plan doesn't work.  Western investors are literally mentally retarded and metals demand drops off a cliff when the price is low while demand is huge in the rest of the world like China right now.
Westerners always jump in to FOMO buy at the top and don't buy anything at the bottom.

LOL nice try shill, calling easy to recognize Bitfinex fraud a "conspiracy theory".  This is no "theory", they made their fraud blatantly obvious for all to see.

Meuh is spamming us with pictures of cuckolds

Kind of like how in the American revolutionary war against the British, only like 1% of the population actually fought them while everyone else were just cuckolds.  The same will be true in the fight to free the planet from Jewish media and banking organized crime.  Oda.krell was one of the worthless cuckolds on the sidelines yelling, oh god, don't fight the British, thats sexist or rayacism or something!

If you would like to be enslaved by the jews we can always pack your bags and send you to Israel.  However, normal people have no interest in living under their debt based usury currency, media propaganda, Soros run rapefugee invasions, feminism, endless wars, or other evil schemes.  They're a neurotic, demented people of poor character who always form a state within a state to the detriment of the native inhabitants and that's why they're always expelled from every nation on earth.  They even admit to running the human organ trafficking rings.  Just about anything horrible on the planet these people are the masterminds of:

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.610986

Yes, total war:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aABLnazbDic