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21  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 05, 2015, 12:08:20 PM
Let's suppose that GAW:

1. Didn't defraud its customers with false promises right from the start of ZenCloud
2. Didn't produce a moronic WhitePaper with hyperflexi thermodynamic Prime Tech mambo Jumbo
3. Didn't fail in each and everyone of its launches
4. Didn't exercise fascist practices in HashTalk
5. Didn't plan a 350% inflation for PayCoin (compounding is just a test...)
6. Didn't plan to dump its 12 million PREMINED coins
7. Didn't fail to appear in any Media that actually has an impact in our world
8. Didn't fail to provide even a simple plugin for Amazon
9. Didn't fail to be honest about the NON-EXISTENT "floor"
10. Didn't fail to put up PayBase with something more than selling XPY for $20

Even after ALL of this, JMordica's Video still stands out as THE most moronic shitty crap I have ever watched.
22  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 05, 2015, 11:53:58 AM
Voted for Most Idiotic Video of All Time
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|Rebrand on: January 04, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
From those 3, My choice would be #2, but without the outer circle.



Yup! That looks great! #2 no circle...


+1
The outer circle is confusing - #2 no circle comes out clean and clear
24  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 04, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
25  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 03, 2015, 05:08:06 PM
26  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 03, 2015, 04:15:31 PM
This is just rich... they just now realized that price manipulation could be illegal, and they have no plans of ever restablishing a floor:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/27529/30-days-of-transparent-questions-and-answers

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Outside of the significant drain supporting the marketplace had on our reserves, we have since learned that the CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) has specifically stated that they can hold a company liable for manipulating pricing. For these reasons (and the ones above), the “hard floor” strategy cannot succeed and we have no plans to re-implement it.


So... it's official.  There is no floor... there will never be a floor, and we were all lied to.  Scam or no scam, the very basis of what everyone had used to make the mine hashpoints and convert to stakers decision... was a lie.



Nice. Scammers claim to be unable to keep promises because

doing so would break the law. Should bolster confidence.

Not to mention it's total bullshit. Paycoin isn't a futures contract. It isn't a derivative. It isn't a security. It's a virtual good, so the CFTC has no ability to regulate it. CFTC is the Commodity FUTURES Trading Commission. It's like those lying assholes think people can't even read.

Sorry for the language, but a lie this brazen gets me a bit pissed off.

27  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 03, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
ROFL he will need to hire bodyguards to protect him from his customers. Miami should be a great show!
idk a lynch mob or possible  shooting yeeesh idk if anyone knows how serious  this is god forbidden  some crazy he stole his life saveings shoots up the place i would advice  dont sit or stand close to him i wouldn't  wana be shot or attacked by mistake 3.86$ atm serious josh needs witnesses protection or pc jail time  only high risk pm's could protect this faggot  if any of joshs victims are gang affiliated  like me bodyguards are useless u dont pay bodyguards to protect you from gangsters they instead advice u dont go to the conference

Unless you are "affiliated" to Robin Hood gang, stealing from the rich to help the poor, you are a common criminal yourself who are perhaps jealous GAW and Josh are better than you in stealing.

Too bad Josh beat you at it...
28  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 03, 2015, 10:53:04 AM
I like all of you have an issue with GAW, however I have a bigger issue with the threats of violence not on only Josh but his family, if this community want to be like this than you can go fuck yourself, I have PM'd Josh, Provide the relevant post so his team can track you down, only low life cunt's would threaten his family.

WAKE UP TO YOUR SELVES, ATTACK JOSH AND GAW BUT LEAVE THE THREATS ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1

Leave the wife and kids out of any of this. That's not cool.

Leave his kids out of it they are innocent...

Don't leave his wife , mother , father , brother or sister out though...

All of them knew exactly wtf he was doing  Angry
thanku his kids are a choice only if you rl want should you throw them into incomming traffic but srs fck the garza family ps they got a uncle tim incase your watchin josh nuthings off limits refund everyone maybe grandpa tim will get tire ironed Wouldn't your mom be sad
the amount of  private sensitive information ive gathered tonight alone iridiculous

A person can only be held responsible for his / her own actions ONLY.
Nobody is guilty by ASSOCIATION. This is fascist thinking of the worst kind.
So leave his father, sister, family and friends alone (and don't dare ever ever bring kids into the picture).

You are committing a far more serious crime than GAW's fraud by spreading hate by association to other individuals.

There are other things much more important than money. GAW is committing money crimes. The posters here who spread hate for Josh's family are committing crimes against the very things that makes our ape race human...

29  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 02, 2015, 08:53:08 PM
30  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 02, 2015, 06:27:54 PM
31  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 02, 2015, 12:23:50 AM





32  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 16, 2014, 05:42:16 PM
FREE SERVICE: TEST YOUR NEW XPY WALLETS TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN RECEIVE XPY PROPERLY.

SEND 1 XPY TO PSKBHoCVeDpkhHu2jzF6bii4Q4eDkRFh1S AND PROVIDE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS.

EMAIL VERIFICATION OF RECEIPT OF XPY WILL BE PROVIDED.

THIS IS YOUR PROOF THAT YOUR WALLET IS WORKING.


I've send over 100 X 1 XPY because I'm kind of unsure whether this is working or not.

Please email verification to gaw_ceo@zenminers.com
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 15, 2014, 06:07:57 PM
Let the Tech Win!

I've invested in BAY because I believe in the technology for smart contracts.

I found myself among gangsters. Not that it came as a surprise, I've been into crypto long enough to kind of expect all the fud, name calling, p&d.

But I'm investing DESPITE all this.
I believe in the disruptive crypto currency technology. I'm staying invested.

In the name of people who aren't after each others throats or pockets, let us move forward.

David, I've been through all this "Game of Thrones" saga. You have my support.

Let the tech win the day! 
 

34  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 14, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
you have allowed yourself to be brainwashed.

and bitcointalk is a beacon of balanced independent thinking.... Smiley
theres no shadow bans so yeah its horrible free speech here

isn't it dreadful when people are allowed to express their opinions?

/s

I should clarify that, I meant this thread, not the entire bct forum Grin Expressing opinions is good yes, especially when everyone's shaking their pitchfork in the same direction!

And don't you see any reason why so many people are "shaking their pitchfork in the same direction"?

Don't you see that for months now GAW has been putting out so much bullshit that makes you cry out loud?

I'm a customer who bought "diminishing fees" for "ever profitable" mining power and saw the fees being the ONLY thing that hasn't changed in zenminer for MONTHS!
When I tried to discuss in HT I got shadow banned.

Then approximately 1,000 more reasons came about, each screaming that we are dealing with big time failure - a failure that does damage to the whole crypto community.
Everything culminating to a fiasco "launch" with XPY traded in an unknown exchange for 50000 BTC on a broken blockchain...

Are you still wondering why so many people don't have the best of opinions for GAW?


35  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 10:58:42 PM
Well here in about another month or so everyone will know whether this is a money making opportunity or not.  I'm personally leaning towards staying in it.. I got all my primes when they were under $20 and I've more than made my money back.

So I can
a) sell my primes and get more money back (this is tempting it would be about $30k)
b) or wait and see if this model works (I don't think it's a scam but the model may not be sustainable) in which case at a pay rate of .0075/per prime/day I stand to make about $16k in the next 6mos.... I could also sell my excess paycoin that I can't stake to offset the risk on this


decisions decisions. Huh

With that much money involved you should at least sell as many primes as you can to get your money back.
GAW will totally collapse when HP convert to PayCoin and people try to convert them to BTC. At this point there isn't going to be any market for primes or anything else Josh comes up with...
Protect yourself. I have a lot of GAW-coupons (aka hashpoints) and I would just LOVE to see Josh buy them back for $20/PC. It is not going to happen.
And when this becomes obvious it would be too late to get anything out of the system.

Eh it's all a moot point now.. I didn't realize that after you reserved your wallet on the primes you were locked from selling.. oh well let's see how it plays out.. roll them dice

You're right. But I think primes stay locked from selling up to the time wallet becomes available. I think at this point you'll be allowed to sell them. At least I hope so - I haven't sold all of my primes so I'm curious to see if there is going to be any opportunity to sell the remaining as wallets. Anyway, it is good entertainment and the next days will make quite a show  Grin
36  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 08:47:12 PM
Well here in about another month or so everyone will know whether this is a money making opportunity or not.  I'm personally leaning towards staying in it.. I got all my primes when they were under $20 and I've more than made my money back.

So I can
a) sell my primes and get more money back (this is tempting it would be about $30k)
b) or wait and see if this model works (I don't think it's a scam but the model may not be sustainable) in which case at a pay rate of .0075/per prime/day I stand to make about $16k in the next 6mos.... I could also sell my excess paycoin that I can't stake to offset the risk on this


decisions decisions. Huh

With that much money involved you should at least sell as many primes as you can to get your money back.
GAW will totally collapse when HP convert to PayCoin and people try to convert them to BTC. At this point there isn't going to be any market for primes or anything else Josh comes up with...
Protect yourself. I have a lot of GAW-coupons (aka hashpoints) and I would just LOVE to see Josh buy them back for $20/PC. It is not going to happen.
And when this becomes obvious it would be too late to get anything out of the system.
37  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 11:19:10 PM
Once the coin is released and thousands upon thousands paycoins are dumped and the wall becomes thinner and thinner and people mine the hell out of the coin just to dump it, where it the wall then?
No one will want to buy paycoins in the future, it offers nothing innovative and its completely useless.

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You won't get that kind of proof from any other company that I can think of.  GAW has bent over backwards to try and satisfy their critics, but the boo-birds and naysayers will never be satisfied.

GAW HAS BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO TRY AND SATISFY THEIR CRITICS?
They have done nothing at all to satisfy us, and he keeps on mentioning that everything is hidden for 'competitive' reason...
It has to be hidden because he doesn't want to go to jail for lying/scamming individuals.
You don't need to hide the amount of miners you have or mining addresses, what are competitors going to do with that.

Have you ever considered this that if GAW rents out the mining power that there is no mining address at GAW? They rent out the mining power and get paid in BTC. So how are you  going to dis-prove that. How will GAW prove that? Neither you are GAW can produce proof.

GAW has declared ownership of a 15MW data center. At 5 cents/KWh this translates to $18,000 PER DAY.

Call an auditor. Show him the electricity bills. Have him verify this publicly. Done.

No need to reveal anything, no need to bypass any NDAs.

Unless of course there is no data center and no mining taking place.
38  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 09:02:46 AM
Without reading 177 pages of Shitcoin Talk bullshit, can someone give me a synopsis of this thread? Please limit it to 10 words or less.

Thank you.

No bullshit - it's about new crypto science we don't understand
39  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 08:21:42 AM
New Method of DataCenter Auditing Patented by GAW

As major news agencies reported around the globe tonight, GAW has officially filed a patent for their revolutionary new method to validate DataCenters performance and ownership.

First demonstrated with this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY284WtOd9A&feature=youtu.be the method will change the way DataCenters are audited in the future.

Pink spray color is going to be part of the new international standard EN69002-23 for DataCenter auditing based on GAW's patent.

Amazon and Microsoft have officially contacted GAW's GMO Joe Mordica to file requests for auditing their DataCenters worldwide.
40  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 05, 2014, 10:15:22 AM
Nobody ever guaranteed the $20 per PayCoin:

Interesting thread https://hashtalk.org/topic/21545/can-anyone-find-where-gaw-guartentees-20-00-per-pay-coin/2

Who ever said anything about $20/PC???

Nobody...

That's the whole point here: people are acting like $20/PC is a fact of life.
What a great experiment this is!
I'm keeping my last 2M of primes just for the entertainment value of this show.
Crypto is interesting in so many ways  Cheesy
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