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21  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 31, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
I still can't get on the site. Hope they haven't ran off with our money to buy jet skis & hookers

I hope so too. For me it's down (http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/minershare.net). I give them 24 hours before taking next action.
22  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 31, 2014, 12:01:20 PM
Saw it yesterday too, it selled like crazy. Now I hope everything goes as it should.
23  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 31, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
It was rining but seems to be bussy. They always told something about scandinavia and their prename. The domain is registered to one of them. I also checked their address and this looks possible. I'm from Switzerland but I've friends in Finland. So if it would really gives problems, I'll use all posibilities I have. But let's give them a chance. It's not a good a to prejustice.
24  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 31, 2014, 10:05:18 AM
He tried to use the moment to earn some revenue.Glad to hear it's up again - my DNS server's arent updated till now - but anybody can make a who.is. There is an adress in Finland with phone number.
25  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 31, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
Please stop spamminig sell threads with competitor links (on every thread they were discussed). I think fair arguments are alowed every time, but you argument that they are gone because their page isn't reachable for the moment. The site you promote was not available for days due DDOS (and is back again). That's bad business dude - are you so greedy?

Did you check the who is of the page? At least there seems to be private information about the owner(s). pbmining.com (which I like too but are more expensive) have registered their domain for example via domain proxy.
26  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 31, 2014, 08:45:09 AM
Hmmm the site seems to be non existent right now and the links to "proof" images are gone as well...

I would check this mining op out instead.  They are already mining and paying out!  I currently own 10 GHs and am completely happy with my purchase!

PBMINING.COM

Isn't this a little bit perky? You argument against them because the page isn't reachable atm and hijack the thread to promote a competitor who weren't reachable for days due DDOS... (but is back again now).
27  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 30, 2014, 10:15:47 PM
What I'm doing is promoting the things I beliefe myself and have a transperent risk myself. I'm sure you know a lot related to bitcoin and have a lot of experience. But these are idealistic requirements I never saw fullfilled in real live. Can you answer me please then one key-question:

Call 2-3 examples of offers which are looking as nearly as serious and available as this, where you can invest your BTC with a ROI comparable to this and fullfill all the requirements of the linked thread from you.
(beside buying own hardware or invest > 10K)

I'm sure you are doing a lot for the community, perhaps you found on your way through the forums such a perfect strategy. I'm really open for it and I think I'm really not the only one who wants to learn.



28  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 30, 2014, 09:58:14 PM
Sorry but I really dont see the problem here. Doesn't it make this more serious and makes clearly sense?

They buy the hardware. You buy as much from it, as you want. They take care for the miner (this and the power it needs are part of the 10%) and it runs as long as it makes sense. If it stopped making sense sell it togheter and get the most out of it. I wish every service would do this for such prices.....
29  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 30, 2014, 07:06:21 PM
That's always a good idea Smiley All the best for you
30  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 30, 2014, 06:57:26 PM
As I said, I'm not minershare.net. I'm also a customer and they convinced me (check the linked thread and/or contact them yourself) to invest myself and affiliate them because I can take the risk and see the ROI. What "significant" means depends on your investment, please use the calculater which is linked above and enter your predictions. Then you can see if it makes sense or not for you.

KnC delivered in the past (you can google this). I can't tell you when they WILL deliver because themself don't give a date out. You can check their official history here: https://www.kncminer.com/news

Minershare.net themself told me they (not KnC) would give a refund. They have ordered the units already so they don't gamble with your money.

I hope I was able to give you a little help for the right decision for yourself.
31  Economy / Securities / Re: [Minershare.net] KnC Neptune Miner #1 batch shares, $4/GHs, No hidden fees on: January 30, 2014, 06:09:27 PM
Hi dawn,

how can you be sure that they will refund the customer?

Another interresting question for me is, why Minershares communicate middle February and KnC Q1/Q2.
The most IT related projects I was participating mean by Q1/Q2 likely middle or end of Q2 Wink

Because if you invest in a significant amount, they offered to send ID scans. You can check them. About KnC: I've mailed directely with KnC and they don't give more information. Because I've also mailed with them, they told me that when they don't get the hardware till the end of march, they will give their customers the possibility for a refund.

You can find more arguments or information here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428116

32  Economy / Auctions / Re: AUCTION Pre-order CoinTerra 2Th/s January Batch coming very soon! on: January 30, 2014, 05:59:48 PM
Didn't get a reply to my PM. 15.5 BTC aren't peanuts. Please cancel my bid. I take this seriously and it doesn't make sense if you don't have time for basics related to such amounts of money. No bad feelings and I wish you good luck with your business.
33  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 30, 2014, 05:12:37 PM
This calculation is too positive.
You are saying that the difficulty increments will decrease each jump by 3%, this is so wrong...
As soon as all the Cointerra units start mining... haha, I think we will see jumps of 35% or higher.
You are also including that bitcoin will be worth 1% more with each jump, this is very speculative, could be 10% or maybe -10%.

AND you are forgetting the 10% fee...

AND your calculation starts from today...

Feel free to think and decide what you want. It's not my company, but I try to share my thoughts and answer your questions. But please be honest: As you can read above I did not forgot the 10% fee as well as I did not forgot the delay for the hardware ("hardware lead time"). Everything else is extreme speculative and I would suggest ANYONE, use only money you have. If there wouldn't be the slightest risk, would they offer it in public to make such discussions possible. They would offer the whole 10 units to an investor.

Back in 2011 everybody told the power costs more than the bitcoins you earn. Personaly I mined 33.4 bitcoins till now (most of them with my gfx card). This was a risk and I used my opportunity. Make you own decision which risks you take and which not. As the calculator suggests (indirectly) you can also make a buy in and hold bitcoins. Or you can do nothing, live your life and don't profit and/or have risks related to BTC.
34  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 30, 2014, 04:22:27 PM
They never showed the Full order of 10 miners. The screenshot they posted here was for 3 or 4 miners, that's it. (Now even that is gone)

Did you asked them via mail for it? Did they say no?
35  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 30, 2014, 04:20:12 PM
That makes it a no deal for me Wink
There is no way that they will deliver before 15 March, this means a refund or more hashing power for the same price.
No extra power means no profit.

Delivery after 2014-03-02 means no profit.

It depends on the hash power you order. As much hashpower you have and as soon as possible you can use it to mine, the more lucrative it is. For my 300 example, I'm getting about 100% ROI.
36  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 30, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
Feel free to pay them the way you like it. I'm sure the possibility of a chargeback is some additional security, but I've used BTC to invest into it.

About the other problems: They may have some technical gliches but are very very friendly. Some arguments which convinced me:

  • They offer to show you their ID-scans and personal data when you want this
  • They showed details of their order of the KnCs
  • Their whole story looks legit to me and they are currently offering to a small circle already some miners (ask them for a proof, if you are unsure)
  • If they would scam, they wouldn't invest time/ressources into their website (which is ready for real use, what you can see when your account is activated)
  • They have replied to me with real names sometimes
  • They are not offshore, they live in Scandinavia and KnC is produced there too
  • They offer a refund if KnC delivers not till the end of march
  • They offer a general 14 days money back guarantee
  • They take a 10% fee from the payouts which makes only sense if they payout

There isn't any 100% proof for nearly anything. But for me this is enough. As I said, I personaly think the worst what could happen with this guys would be if they have to refund because KnC doesn't deliver. Try to see it from their view too: What else could they do to proof that they are legit?

If the machines have more than 3 TH I doesn't care as long as I and people who found them via me get what we have on our contract. They are clearly defining the borders. If there are getting more than 3 TH, they could be perhaps extremly  generous and reduce the 10% fee (you have to ask them).

Addtitionaly (again): Use this calc http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=2193847870&dcosts=1200&diff_mincrease=30&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=300000&diff_mincreasedecrease=3&btcusd=849.32&dpowcon=0&btcusd_mincrease=1&pcost=0&calcweeks=32&dleadtime=4&action=calc to calculate what it means when they have delays or ajust it according your predicitions and decide then.
37  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 30, 2014, 02:57:33 PM
Because you get it after they have "activated" your order. Then you get the customer # and with your choose password you can login.
38  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 30, 2014, 02:43:48 PM
1. In answered this via PM - I was able to login a few secs ago.

2. Thats weird. Think here is the currency the problem. 3.049$ looks like the 2400$ in BTC. Im sure if you send them 2.4k in $ or 3.049 in BTC they will reserve you your shares.
39  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Minershare.net] We sell Bitcoin miner shares [$4/GHs], KnC Neptune #1 batch on: January 30, 2014, 12:04:21 PM
I've purchased it via BTC. Paypal seems to be a problem, because they are even against hardware devices/contracts related to bitcoin mining. But you can pay via Skrill. They also told in one of their threads they will send you their personal data/ID scans if you buy a larger order. I see only the problem when KnC doesn't deliver on time, but if they don't deliver till march, minershare.net gives you the possibility for a refund.

Here is my calculation for 300 GH/s. You have to subtract their 10% additionally and it includes a start at the 19 of march: http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=2193847870&dcosts=1200&diff_mincrease=30&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=300000&diff_mincreasedecrease=3&btcusd=849.32&dpowcon=0&btcusd_mincrease=1&pcost=0&calcweeks=32&dleadtime=4&action=calc
40  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: KNC NEPTUNE PRIVATE BATCH SALE on: January 30, 2014, 10:40:18 AM
They claim at least 3 TH: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-69
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