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Are you willing to use bitcointalk escrow? No one trusts paxful or localbitcoins. People sell accounts with positive trust there which means it is fake trust
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Nope, there is no way to check it. It's been a long time since I've done this, but before you could check the validity of the code before adding it to your account
So there was a possibility and now there is no ? Does AMAZON help the scammers in their business ? Why are they doing everything they can not do to make it stop and ? What's the problem with giving tools for justice ? // A little from another barrel. Can I send money from my account (which I have from the code) to another user's address even if they have an account in another region? For example from Amazon UK to Amazon USA ? No you can't. Each com,de,ca,uk have different currency and etc. You can't do currency exchange based on the USD/EUR/GBP in Amazon. |
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In the free time, i am also: Batman and Rambo (Depends on the mood).
@Boombl4, two questions: 1. Is "Vise Sentos" your Telegram user ID? 2. Did you suggest using monbux as your escrow provider? 1. It is not my telegram 2. I suggested the user to choose anyone from the list. 3. As i already stated above, the user were blocked. 4. I can create two telegrams and use any name to create semi/same conversation between two people to make it look like i were talking to the right person. *Now i understand why people suggest to not deal in telegram. I were thinking the scammers are stupid, but seems like consider they are few in that scheme, few heads can make the scheme better than only elmanchez. |
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Welcome, since you want to teach people/kids about crypto, in first place teach yourself what is "escrow" and why is it important for the security of each buyer and seller. Just a note to everyone who welcome warm this "teacher". Proof talking with the same person: https://prnt.sc/t9uv05Proof that's his telegram: Hi!
I'm new to this site, but not new to the crypto world!
I have been working with bitcoin for a very long time and get it in different ways! This is my way of earning money!
I have a lot of regular customers and I'm always looking for new regular customers!
I sell bitcoin for 70% of the cost of bitcoin!
If you are interested, we can discuss it!
If you have your terms, then I'm ready to discuss it!
I will be glad to cooperate!
Contact me in telegram @Facesieno
quoted for reference. So you are selling you bitcoin with 70% off? First I want to say this is not a place for trading. You could post your offer is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0 if you want to sell your bitcoin. The offer you provided is very fishy and looks suspicious. Don't try anybody to. Conversation screenshots he's refusing escrow and "selling" bitcoin at 70% of the value which is obvious scam! https://prnt.sc/t9uw8y |
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Finally hip3r and elmanchez will get what they deserve You will not decide. You told me fairy tales what top exchange you are. So show at least one screenshot or proof of at least one transaction. Show profiles in other forums. As far as I understand, you are not against sharing in @telegram, so why is Boombl4 nickname on the forum and Vise Sentos in @telegram. This can confuse and scare your customers. You exchange wmz, show me your webmoney wallet. I want to see at least something. Personally, I have a lot of questions for your exchanger activity. Even your nickname belongs to a public person.  In the free time, i am also: Batman and Rambo (Depends on the mood). Could you prove your words? Please, show us proof about your statements same as i did. Oh sorry you can't  |
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Finally hip3r and elmanchez will get what they deserve In this screenshot, from my point of view, Vise Sentos confirms that it is BooMbl4
"Mhm", by the same logic you were talking with me after 26th right  And the real monbux were sending you emails right :D:D You fucking scammers will never ever learn... Anyway, next time when Barack Obama message you in telegram, redirect him i have few questions... Since when random people over telegram saying they are someone means anything? |
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Hello. I apologize for my English writing through google translate. Yesterday evening, the circus performed by Boombl4 ended. In order to put everything in order, time is needed. Another point, I don’t know English and it will take some time to find a translator and translation too. I decided to post a light version. These are screenshots with a few explanations. Friday June 26th, evening with me. Boombl4 knocked on my telegram, I wrote him a private message on the forum. Moderators can check.  June 27, I have the night. Yes, I was not mistaken.) After accusing me of fraud and scribble on the forum, Boombl4 is still negotiating an exchange with me. Boombl4 sent an email to escrow (monbux) and gave it my email. I do not mind because I have no doubt in deceiving Boombl4 and want to sleep.  June 28, morning with me. I receive a letter from escrow. Thanks Google. Your mail is the best.   June 28, day after evening with me. As they say "No comment"         I repeat this light version will be full later. And two more points 1. I am ready for three users, whose reputation no one doubts, to provide screenshots of some of their transactions in recent times. 2. I live in Minsk. Perhaps on this forum there are people with a reputation from my city or country. Maybe someone happens in Minsk. I am ready to meet in person and show that I am really engaged in an exchange. Boombl4 can you do the same !??? Sure, firstly, not sure which is the person you are talking last few days, but you were blocked by me back in 26th. If that's some some 11iq attempt from elmanchez to save his name after the scam attempts, could you please show us where and how this exact telegram chat after 26th is mine? Please, share with us Private message from me confirming you are talking with me on telegram after 26th or anywhere (not in telegram) this is connected with me. Yes, i had conversation with you till 26th, after you tried to scam me with your russian gaylord friend, both of you were blocked. Can't wait for your answer, i swear i won't eat all my pop corns before that. Quick edit: Could you please tell us also why you edit your telegram name from your topic right after the failed scam attempt with your russian girlfriend ? |
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Can hardly feel sorry for someone who refuses to listen to advice about the dangers of doing business on telegram..
Go on ahead and get scammed again..
For all I know you are both/all parties trying to scam elmanchez out of a guilt trip refund..
I didn't do that post someone to feel sorry about me. I did this post to warm the community about those scammers and give them information what they are doing. We both know that scam section is not moderated and no one actually care about anyone loss but at least there is tags from DT members to warn other people. If you feel that those scammers are welcome to run around doing whatever they want, feel free to not tag them  Yeah, all those proofs above clearly show how we all trying to scam elmanchez *sarcasm* |
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There are a huge number of far more reputable platforms out there, why would anybody use you when they can just head over to BestChange to find a list of vetted vendors? I would personally stay well clear of platforms like LBC and Paxful, since there are ways to scam if the buyer is a complete noob. I don't know how seriously your advise about BestChange should be taken, since, based on your reply and yout logo, it seems like you are somehow affiliated with that site. Probably, you a seller on that platform, which is not crime by itself, but flooding the threat of of your potential competition is definitely not cool. Also, how different BestChange from LBC and Paxful in terms of account resell problem? Can't those account be resold? Do not take serious those idiots who come and advertise their own websites as escrow to scam people around. There is bitcointalk escrows for a reason mate |
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So you trying to tell me that screenshots from telegram could be fake, but screenshots from PMs cannot be fake ? Screenshots can always be faked. I mean if you delete your PM's or the scammer deletes it, mod can verify it ? If person A sends person B a private message and deletes it afterwards, the message still remains in the inbox of the recipient (just like with emails). When you report a PM to a moderator, he will see its content. So, yes. A moderator can verify PM's. Awesome, now lets not talk about what butterfly's can and cannot do and lets clean our place from people like those from the topic... |
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Actually when you delete your private messages, i am not pretty sure they are recorded anywhere... And if they are after being deleted, that's scary.
1. Your screenshots from telegram could be completely fake.. 2. Bitcointalk PMs do not get deleted on both ends like telegram.. Bitcointalk PMs can also be verified by mods or another trusted user.. On telegram you can make any name you want and fake an entire conversation.. Not here.. So you trying to tell me that screenshots from telegram could be fake, but screenshots from PMs cannot be fake ? I mean if you delete your PM's or the scammer deletes it, mod can verify it ? What fake conversations what names dude ? We are talking about proven failed scammers here, how does your conspiracy theory is connected with the scam report ? |
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I am not sure why everyone around think that dealing inside the forum via private messages is more safe than dealing with the same person outside forum (telegram,skype,messanger or any chat program).
Becuse here their are records of proof of the conversation that your trading partner cannot delete or tamper with here on Bitcointalk.. On telegram either person can delete all of their messages at any time from both partie's chat screens.. Bitcointalk forum records are very highly trusted, provable, and automatically archived.. Telegram is not.. If you think telegram is just as good of a place to do business then why aren't you taking this to the telegram scam accusations board but instead are bringing it here? If it didn't happen here often times their isn't much that can be done about it here.. Scammers can get away with a lot more on telegram than here.. That's why it's packed full of scammers and people get scammed there all the time and nothing can be done about it.. Personally as someone with brain, if i see the things going wrong by anyway, i take my time to screenshot the entire conversation before it continues to go more weird and nonsense. Everyone making large to big deals should have that in mind. Actually when you delete your private messages, i am not pretty sure they are recorded anywhere... And if they are after being deleted, that's scary. There is no difference on private message "security" and telegram "security" because in both ways, the scammers can get away with the same it depends on their skills. We share different opinions which is normal. You can't point "Telegram", "Messanger" or any app for communication as den of scammers. There is tons of reports daily here in the forum and we do not call it that way either. Scammers are everywhere and not a private message, telegram chat or meeting can save you from them. |
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You are saying you are professional and have good business ideas but one thing you need to understand no one going to do partnership with you here on this forum because any brainer will never invest any amount here so better please go your local bank or business community and try for good partnership surely this will works for you and your team.
Seems like you are talking behalf all the existing community and new members ? Talk what would you do and what do you think but don't expect anyone to take you seriously trying to talk behalf everyone around. If i was so sceptic and ignorant as you, i would never succeed in that life... Actually i already had few contacts based on this topic. Thanks. So arrogant Bro. Yes he can talk on behalf of the whole community as long as he defended a reason vision. I do totally agree with him and i can ensure you that every member here would agree too. You are an unknown person without any confirmed background, how do you expect people to trust you? There are a lot of newbies pretending to be AI tech and business managers, go and make partenership with them. Those who contacted you based on this topic are either newbies who are yet learning basics about how to behave among a public forum community, or they are scammers who will sooner exploit your knowledge (if any) or propose you to run a scam plan. Please, don't let your arrogance leads you to devil, we are here to help each other and no one is insulting you in person or have any personal issue with you. So you two talk behalf 100,000+ users around ? Dude, cmon, stop thinking that the world is doing circles around you... You are doing circles around it. And consider i already have interest about this, seems like none of you talking behhalf the community. And since when is it rude to state my point? You are an unknown person also, and thanks god the entire bitcoin community is based on anonymity. My "background" is confirmed, was and will be to everyone interested on that project. I do not expect people to trust me blindly but see opportunity same as me. And i do not care if the people who contact me have any forum ranks or not. I "judge" people by their way of thinking, not by spending time over bitcoin forum making posts that's being merited by other people you know? Actually, people who were interested on this project register here only to send me contact details and they will most likely never use this forum again ( who knows? ). There is no arrogance by my side, but ignorance from yours. |
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If you don't accept bitcointalk escrows why you using bitcointalk?
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I'm kinda interested on what escrow type you are explaining here https://prnt.sc/t7f28w? Is this some kind of a 3rd party app? It seems that you are insisting to used the escrow that you preferred and you even suggest to send BTC/USDT to you first. I understand your point on accusing that he was scam because he called the escrow his "Bro" which even I will be worry because they might set you up and you have any idea who the escrow is. But I believe Elmanchez said that to explain the "FREE" escrow fee that he offers to you earlier in your conversation. DirewolfM14 has a loan business here ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132594.0) in the forum and invested money more than the amount you are dealing. So there is no way he will scam you if ever the deal was made inside the forum.
The proof that he attempt to scam you is not that strong. You are just upset because the deal didn't go through in your preferred way of doing escrow and you easily jump into conclusion without checking the escrow he was referring because he called it "Bro". PS: It will be really helpful if you can provide my request about your preferred escrow service. I am not using any 3rd party app for sure, actually, if you check most of my posts, you will see i suggest people to use forum escrows. And why would i not offer anyone to send me money first if he wants to? Is that crime or something bad? Or i am not allowed to handle trades by my self if the other party have no problem with it? My point is not only that he wants to use his "bro" which as we can see he is not even close to his "bro" but the way that the guy lied and manipulated. In first place he invites friend of him to be escrow, and then telling that he have done previous deals with that newbie. After that, if you see the screenshots the newbie confirm that he never had deals with this person, and Wolf come in this topic saying he only had chat with this guy and they are not "bro's" for sure (from what i get). DireWolf's name was removed from the topic as you can see because from everything we collected as evidence so far, it can be seen that elmanchez were "cleaning" his hands with Wolf and lying about deals in the past with the newbie. Dealing in the forum and outside the forum is just the same if you deal with someone honest and not a scammer. Scam reports are not moderated and even if you get scammed in forum with proofs or outside forum with proofs it is the same. It is absurd to communicate and try to deal with newbie in the forum because of the restrictions for private messages per day/hour and so. Everyone around using Telegram and that's not secret or something bad. We all do need faster communication. I am not sure why everyone around think that dealing inside the forum via private messages is more safe than dealing with the same person outside forum (telegram,skype,messanger or any chat program). As you can see, no one cares about failed scam attempts from green trusted member, no matter is it off or on-site. Those failed attempts are obvious.. Or i should wait him to scam me before i post this ? |
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He gets entangled in an extraordinary number of shady deals though. That's either very bad luck or perhaps some actual correlation.
This thread, together with the other thread is more than just suspicious. And it seems to me that there is something suspicious here, because too much has happened in a short time and some explanations are not very logical. I got a PM 4 days ago from elmanchez where he ask me for some PP - > BTC trade, although we have no history of trading nor have I publicly stated that I want such a trade. There is nothing suspicious about this PM, but I think everyone should be even more careful when it comes to any trading - and especially avoid Telegram. I believe there is nothing wrong with telegram because 99% of people using it here for fast communication. The problems are actually different here based on the situation and the provided screenshot proofs. A newbie claim for exchange, then comes elmanchez who work with him obviously covering his ass with Wolf as escrow. In other place, elmanchez changed his telegram name week ago claiming he's not using telegram anymore but contacting me from some telegram without verifying, but thanks god in this thread he verified that he's the one contacted me. In other hand, the newbie said he never dealt with this person as elmanchez claim because i caught their scheme. It is obvious that elmanchez is trying to cover his ass with newbie account somehow and involving Wolf name as his "bro" to cover escrow services. The only thing that elmanchez was going to lose if i didn't catch them was the newbie account which no one give a fuck about. That kind of behavior should be punished and he should be tagged for suspicious activity and two failed scam attempts for the last month. Not in last place, he's abusing the trust system placing false and fake negative feedback on my profile and also bring his other alts to do the same because i caught them. If i were wrong and there is nothing like that, he would never do that and also use his alts to abuse the trust system and place fake negative feedbacks. |
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no one is interested on scam coins and dead projects.
also this should be moved to altcoin marketplace
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Bump! elmanchez and his friend hip3r should be both tagged.
Enough proofs were provided.
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At least all members from the scamming scheme will be exposed. So far, i got few negative feedbacks for nothing from people that i never even know they existed before they placed fake negative feedback on my profile. Right after i open this topic against hip3r and elmanchez i received negative feedback from those alt accounts of the scammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2533861 |
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