So you think that this is an "evidence" of something? Let's find out something about you my friend....And vizefod has already done that. Ok, this is very interesting, but why do you write these stories every time about changing policies, without indicating that you sent a fake ID. Man, if you did not know, a change of policy is a common thing in business. I again ask, why did you send the FAKE ID? Can you answer? And I repost this message because it might not have been seen because of the paid trolls:
I'll explain to you what the paid trolls are. Look So, if ni23457 started saying that someone is buying someone, I will remind you that Mr. ni23457 has an army of bots in Reddit that spread false information. https://www.reddit.com/u/andyrgreighttps://www.reddit.com/u/asherxhttps://www.reddit.com/user/Bronnyleehttps://www.reddit.com/u/dbroncoboyhttps://www.reddit.com/u/gabyshinnhttps://www.reddit.com/u/iseorankerhttps://www.reddit.com/u/kanetreblehttps://www.reddit.com/u/nekomisahttps://www.reddit.com/u/primeaudiohttps://www.reddit.com/u/radakitohttps://www.reddit.com/u/rashonskihttps://www.reddit.com/u/redshredshttps://www.reddit.com/u/spagrspagrhttps://www.reddit.com/u/yusuefThey write the same, only what that want ni23457. So he tries to force changenow to return him BTC without checking his identity. Is not this blackmail? In addition, he bought advertising here on BCT. Guys, he does not warn us, he does it in order to spoil the reputation of the exchange. I advise everyone to thoroughly study this story. ni23457 had not just a mistake, sending someone else's documents. He did it consciously! He hides his identity. Why? Who is he afraid of? What he says = nonsense, he's another fraudster, laundering money. Further Medium. Here are 4 people who write the same thing: https://medium.com/@petitefemmeforte — petite nana https://medium.com/@HallerManjbrian — stephen haller https://medium.com/@paulmcglynn25 — Paul McGlynn https://medium.com/@mananaduboi Manon Dubois On BCT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1246196 - bitcoinewman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2374957 - Norinma https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2352582 - veronicasmithen03 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2376982 - isintel https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1246188 - Bazinga442 All of them blame ChangeNOW. Nothing else. |
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The OP never scammed anybody. Changenow scammed the OP. How do you know that he never scammed? I'm sure he is a scammer. He is afraid even to disclose his wallet address. Also taking into account his "facts" and "evidences" and all his bullshit about changenow connections I'm 100% sure he doesn't understand crypto market at all. His knowledge of the market is very very very poor. He can't be the early investor. You should be very stupid to believe him about that... Can anyone explain me with this guy : matej krkic has defended for several months Changenow  He should be tagged, he definitly deserve a red trust Anoyone who defend changenow, deserve a red trust and must be banned from there At the beginning of this story I made some statements against ni23457 position. It's pretty normal when people have different positions on some questions. But as a result I received a lot of private messages from him with treats and swearings. He is crazy and sick. Now I defend my position as I previously mentioned: ni23457 is a scammer. |
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They are talking about my account that was illegally used and hacked by Russian hackers to promote voyagerapp that is a scam, I am not related to that scam nor to the OP. They are looking for any hint to legitimize their theft.
The frustration and anger of the OP is evident, every scammer has a point of no return, where it is more convenient to keep the money than to return it, and that point crossed. For them their website has lost all credibility, it's clearly a selective scam, and they will not return the money unless you find expose and report them. Good luck with that
I’ve read the story about “russian hackers” and the screenshots of you “conversation” with “Voyager CEO”....This is really amazing, I laughed few hours... I think even at school I wouldn’t believe this. I mean... account with 10 posts is really a good target for russian hackers hahahaha! Ni23457, please don’t think people are as dumb as you are |
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Theymos is not interested in aml/kyc as he is not a money business.
Now the entire forum is dirty with these dirty coins. Therefore, run away from bitcointalk and forget about it. It's too dirty for you  |
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So you were searching for an anonymous exchanger? Interesting.
Theymos is not interested in aml/kyc as he is not a money business.
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I’m sure he will not. He is afraid to disclose his personal data, he is hiding. He is definitely afraid of something. Maybe because he is a part of some big scam story. Like the russian scammers from voyagerapp - we can see at least one account related to this story in our thread
I do not think the OP is afraid. He simply fell for the "anonymous and limitless" lies that changenow had on their website several months ago. I never send my ID to any exchange and never will, that does not mean I am hiding something. It means I do not want to send my ID to people I do not know and have no idea what they will do with it. I doubt the OP has anything to hide, I doubt the OP is part of a scam story like you allude to. I am sure however that changenow are selective scamming. There was no mentioning of anonymity at the website at the time of his transaction. All your and my guesses are unreasonable. Just guesses, no facts. We can only wait for the legal investigation to be finished. |
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There is not a single law preventing you from sending the money back to OP
What do you mean? The person sent fake documents 2 times, is this not a red flag? Most of the allegations of fraud here at the forum are devoted to the fact that project teams provide stolen photos. It is "stolen photos", because as soon as you download a picture of some passport (not your own) and present it, you will be a potential rascal. Is this not a reason to suspect you of something? I again ask why ni23457 does not want to produce a real ID, and I do not find an answer. No one pays attention to this fact, but real it underlies the problem. It's very simple: it gives a real ID, the exchange returns BCH. Why complicate? User44a is right, there is no law preventing changenow to return the funds regardless of whether fake ID was sent or not. Which laws are changenow claiming to abide by? They are registered as a company in Belize using a non-physical mailing address and also have non-physical mailing address offices in Russia and Netherlands. Is it Belize, Russian or Dutch laws that changenow abide by which allows them to seize funds? I’m sure it’s just a europol request regarding this user, that’s why we can’t be provided with all the info They are lying, there was no Europol request. They used selective scamming but messed with the wrong person (the OP). I hope the OP turns the table and informs Europol and Interpol about changenow. I’m sure he will not. He is afraid to disclose his personal data, he is hiding. He is definitely afraid of something. Maybe because he is a part of some big scam story. Like the russian scammers from voyagerapp - we can see at least one account related to this story in our thread |
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There is not a single law preventing you from sending the money back to OP
What do you mean? The person sent fake documents 2 times, is this not a red flag? Most of the allegations of fraud here at the forum are devoted to the fact that project teams provide stolen photos. It is "stolen photos", because as soon as you download a picture of some passport (not your own) and present it, you will be a potential rascal. Is this not a reason to suspect you of something? I again ask why ni23457 does not want to produce a real ID, and I do not find an answer. No one pays attention to this fact, but real it underlies the problem. It's very simple: it gives a real ID, the exchange returns BCH. Why complicate? User44a is right, there is no law preventing changenow to return the funds regardless of whether fake ID was sent or not. Which laws are changenow claiming to abide by? They are registered as a company in Belize using a non-physical mailing address and also have non-physical mailing address offices in Russia and Netherlands. Is it Belize, Russian or Dutch laws that changenow abide by which allows them to seize funds? I’m sure it’s just a europol request regarding this user, that’s why we can’t be provided with all the info |
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As for the refund - we will refund the OP as soon as we have legal grounds for that. We really hope that this situation is resolved as soon as possible.
There is not a single law preventing you from sending the money back to OP unless you are absolutely certain they were involved in a crime. In that case they would have to be turned over to the agency investigating that particular crime and not held by you. What legal grounds are you talking about? @Polina_ChangeNOWI’m sure he is involved. Will be waiting for the result of the investigation |
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I don't know them. But they look like a very small exchange under threat by the russian authorities. And 70000 usds are a lot of money for a small exchange already burned by this scam. Since the OP has personal details from them he can try use that, but we all know how things work on Russia. OP you have all my sympathy but say goodbye to your money.
Lol, new farmed acc. Ni23457, could you please buy better accs? We don’t believe you  My account is from 2014, scammer. It was bought this year, it’s clearly understandable from the posts history. Seems that ni23457 (or someone from his scamteam) was also blocked by freewallet. I think they have also marked his coins as suspicious. It’s too hard to launder stolen money now, isn’t it? |
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he sent us fake documents
I did not send any documents to you, I sent JPG files to you. There is no country in the world where the jpg image would be a document. This is definitely the biggest bullshit I've ever heard  Thank you, you've made my day |
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He said he only sent some obvious fake files as a joke/mock. If that's true, I would say it's pretty obvious that he wasn't seriously trying to get verified with fake ID's.
We can assure you that he didn't send those documents as a joke or mock. In his earlier posts the OP claimed that he was "embarassed", which is why he sent us fake documents not only once but twice. I can send any JPG files to you. I can tell you anything. All this will depend solely on my mood. I can do all this because YOU ARE NOBODY. You are a bunch of pathetic people who work illegally in their country and steal other people's money ( not only mine). I just do not consider you for people. You are something like dirt under my feet. It's just my attitude to these "people". Therefore, there can be no talk of any cooperation. They must return the coins and close the exchanger. So what about 2 attempts of submitting fake ID? How can you comment on this? And why are your trying to hide this info? You've mentioned that you've sent putin's/tramp's photo but this is a lie as we see. Why do you lie to us? |
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I think they will refund the OP within a day or two maximum. This whole incident has been a massive PR disaster for changenow because they did not expect somebody would challenge them in the way the OP did by paying for adverts to explain what happened and by using the forum.
I see you are the only one capable of constructive dialogue. Well, I agree with you. But imagine that I, or someone else, will launch such a campaign against another little-known exchange, without betraying any facts other than his story. What we know: - he makes an exchange for $ 70,000, while, as he says, without taking it seriously
- for some reason (we do not know, it's an internal algorithm), the transaction is blocked
- this person, fearing (LOL), sends the first picture (WTF?!)
- the exchange requires real documents and video communication to understand who this person is (agree that getting fake ID causes certain thoughts)
- for some reason (I do not believe in fear for my own life, it's stupid), this person refuses video communication
- He starts a campaign against the exchange, accusing ChangeNow of "fraud".Now the question: what is fraud? Sending fake ID is not cheating? So the scammer accuses of fraud, spreading information, usually not mentioning what caused the problem - FAKE ID and his "frivolity".Do you understand me? This is absurd, we did not see this transaction! That is, the exchange could generally deny this operation, but they recognize this, try to solve the problem, but as I see, OP wants to return the coins, remaining unknown. I think this is wrong. Imagine, in place of ChangeNow, any known exchange in a similar situation. What could write all here on the forum, if in this situation was Binance? And the last thing. I've seen so many times about ChangeNow that I'm ready to poke my eyes out. I admit, I do not like the methods of ni23457, and I do not understand why the majority of the participants of the forum support OP. Nobody but a few people is aware that this problem is the fault of both sides. Let me humor you. I'll bite. You are right about both sides being at fault. However, the fact remains that only the OP has lost something. Changenow can get away with their mistakes + $70.000. If they had handled this better it would never have come to this, which leads me and many others to think this is selective scamming.
Changenow mistakes1) They claimed to be anonymous and unlimited, hence attracting the OPs business. 2) They never warned the OP, before depositing his coins, that the transaction had been flagged and they would require KYC. This would have prevented this mess. Unless, it is standard practice in crypto, to trap peoples coins then demand KYC. I know gambling websites love doing this. 3) Upon the OPs refusal to cooperate, they should have reported the matter to the appropriate regulatory bodies, if they suspected him of any malfeasance. Or simply returned the coins to the same address. 4) This is most important for me. How can a business that hides behind a shell company in Belize demand KYC? These cowardly fuckers deleted their information from their whitepaper. Who does that? All for $70K? If they are legitimate, they wouldn't be hiding behind Polina's skirts. Are these men you wanna entrust your coins and personal information to? These same people threatened the OP? It's all here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5007142.msg45176576#msg45176576 You keep banging on about his wallets and addresses. He is not obligated to share them with you. Imagine strangers asking to see your bank accounts or physical wallets, how will you feel? Luckily, the exchange isn't denying they received the coins, making this point irrelevant.
OPs mistake:1) Sending that much to this little known exchange without doing his due diligence 2) Sending the 1st ID. He should have refused and stood his ground. About his response and spreading the word about this scam. How do you expect him to deal with it? For one he is never going to send them his ID. So what do you suggest? Please don't say KYC, cos we all know that he won't. He is doing what he feels is necessary to retrieve his property. You may not like his tactics, but IMO he hasn't done anything wrong drawing attention to this issue. At the end of the day, if Changenow isn't a scam, they will be a better exchange for it. Dear ni23457, why don’t you mention again that you’ve sent fake ID 2 times? |
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I don't know them. But they look like a very small exchange under threat by the russian authorities. And 70000 usds are a lot of money for a small exchange already burned by this scam. Since the OP has personal details from them he can try use that, but we all know how things work on Russia. OP you have all my sympathy but say goodbye to your money.
Lol, new farmed acc. Ni23457, could you please buy better accs? We don’t believe you |
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really scam!
new farmed account =) Do you think nobody checks the history of your posts? |
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The main problem is that the OP have sent fake ID two times. It might be a legal problem for the service to release the funds in such case.
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Dear ni23457
You understand that our flood doesn't help you to solve the issue with your BCH. Why do you continue to do it? Just in order to look even more stupid?
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>They are related to you, because you and changenow are one and the same. You work for them, or should I call you Roman Lapin, just the same way you assume I am the OP?
LOL, you forgot to take your pills today =)))
I'm fighting against you, Mr. ni23457 for the bullshit he is sending to me in PM. Should I publish it here?
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>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.
Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?
Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.
Welcome back, its been a while. I figured you were on vacation or something like that. Well deserved rest enh? My question is, have you reported the OP to Interpol, Europol, Belizpol, etc, yet? What is the delay? Its been over 2 months now. How difficult is it to fill out a couple of forms, make a report and turn the coins over to them? The coins are heavy to move ehn? Cold storage indeed, or have you spent it already? Some people could think that's why you haven't made this report or returned them to the OP. Dear ni23457, why do you ise different accounts? Aren’t you brave enough to write from your main account? Or maybe you are going to buy more accs and go on shotposting as you are doing at reddit >What is wrong is that they claim "changeNOW International Ltd" is registered in Belize and they also claim "changeNOW International Ltd" Good point. They shouldn't mislead their customers on that matter How stupid can you be? You mean someone who destroyed your reputation and paid for a banner advertising your scam needs to post from several accounts? Answer the question and stop deflecting? Do I sound like the Op to you? Why haven't you reported the case to Belizpol yet? Have you spent the BTC? I hear you are cash strapped, so stealing is the next step to meet your overhead. I don't understand how these questions are related to me. But I understand your tactics. You are using your main account ni23457 when you want to act like a honest guy who was robbed. After few inconvenient questions from me (or other reasons you become angry) you login to one of your farmed accounts and start spreading bullshit in a very offensive manner. So stupid, like a kid. |
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>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.
Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?
Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.
Welcome back, its been a while. I figured you were on vacation or something like that. Well deserved rest enh? My question is, have you reported the OP to Interpol, Europol, Belizpol, etc, yet? What is the delay? Its been over 2 months now. How difficult is it to fill out a couple of forms, make a report and turn the coins over to them? The coins are heavy to move ehn? Cold storage indeed, or have you spent it already? Some people could think that's why you haven't made this report or returned them to the OP. Dear ni23457, why do you use different accounts? Aren’t you brave enough to post from your main account? Or maybe you are going to buy more accs and go on shotposting as you are doing at reddit >What is wrong is that they claim "changeNOW International Ltd" is registered in Belize and they also claim "changeNOW International Ltd" Good point. They shouldn't mislead their customers on that matter |
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