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September 11, 2018, 08:05:27 AM
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Could you kindly tell us your official phone numbers and registered address, wherever it is that you operate from? Surely, as a non-anonymous exchange, you wouldn't be operating anonymously, would you? I would like to know who I am sending my personal identification to, and I am sure the op feels the same way too. You must admit that nobody in their right mind would send their data to an anonymous company.

For example, these are the two exchanges I use, and I wouldn't hesitate to send them my ID's. This, because I know that if anything goes wrong, my lawyers can find them. I cannot find any information for Changenow outside their support ticket and telegram.

Coinbase
San Francisco (HQ)
United States
548 Market St #23008 94104
+1 888 908-7930 (US/Intl)
0808 168 4635 (UK)

Bittrex
Bittrex Incorporated
800 5th Avenue
Ste. 4100
Seattle, WA 98104-3100
+1(888)-474-0472
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As we see they are keeping failing to provide us such basic information every legit company would provide, especially those enforcing this AML/KYC regulations. They must know why.


A number of changes has been made; for instance, we had dropped our anonymity back in April and implemented AML/KYC at the same time in order to comply to the requirements of exchanges, regulators, and legal authorities.
Enlighten me: which regulators allow you to ask KYC for certain transactions without specifying when this will happen? This sounds a lot like selective scamming to me.

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Our risk management system can define a transaction as suspicious based on a certain set of criteria, among which are the size of a transaction, the wallet address, the funds’ origin, etc.
And your legal authorities accept a "risk management system" instead of an airtight KYC system that requires KYC from all customers like any legit exchange would do?

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One of our customers has been carrying out a full-blown defamation campaign to harm ChangeNOW’s reputation and ruin our operations.
I know of at least 2 large cases. But so far you've pretty much ignored the PrivCoin case.
It looks like you scammed the wrong guy.

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We are ready to admit that our transparency policy is still a work in progress regarding the KYC procedure: we have expanded our FAQ, adding a special section on AML and KYC (available here: r/https://changenow.io/faq#kyc), as well as a notification and a link to our AML/KYC info. As we grow, we are going to add more tweaks and features to to our website for convenience of our users.
If you admit this, how about you return the funds you took to the sender?

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We, in turn, are preparing legal claims which we are going to submit to Interpol, Europol, and other authorities
Lol Cheesy

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In no circumstances are we going to keep this user’s funds for ourselves.
How about you send it to a trusted escrow on this forum?


Did you know crossposting the same post on many boards is against the rules?

Your points are laid out very elegantly. I see now reason why changenow would be behaving in this manner except that to apply their selective scamming rule to the OP.

Changenow have certainly messed about with the wrong person. They never expected him to pay for adverts so that he could expose these scammers.

Full respect to the OP for having such a big heart that even after suffering the loss for 11 BTC he decided to pay to expose changenow just for the sake of the community so others cannot get ripped off.

Really Full and Big respect to the OP for this!
ChangeNow.io we are watching you.

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September 11, 2018, 09:41:42 AM
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Could you kindly tell us your official phone numbers and registered address, wherever it is that you operate from? Surely, as a non-anonymous exchange, you wouldn't be operating anonymously, would you? I would like to know who I am sending my personal identification to, and I am sure the op feels the same way too. You must admit that nobody in their right mind would send their data to an anonymous company.

For example, these are the two exchanges I use, and I wouldn't hesitate to send them my ID's. This, because I know that if anything goes wrong, my lawyers can find them. I cannot find any information for Changenow outside their support ticket and telegram.

Coinbase
San Francisco (HQ)
United States
548 Market St #23008 94104
+1 888 908-7930 (US/Intl)
0808 168 4635 (UK)

Bittrex
Bittrex Incorporated
800 5th Avenue
Ste. 4100
Seattle, WA 98104-3100
+1(888)-474-0472
+33 9 77 55 47 75

@changenow

Provide ALL of your contact details including the names and numbers of the "Interpol, Europol, and other authorities" officers you sent allegedly sent your "file" regarding the OP to.

My instincts tell me you are a scammer company, lowest of the low thieves. We are waiting for your reply. Who are you, really?

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September 11, 2018, 10:40:05 AM
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Provide ALL of your contact details including the names and numbers of the "Interpol, Europol, and other authorities" officers you sent allegedly sent your "file" regarding the OP to.

My instincts tell me you are a scammer company, lowest of the low thieves. We are waiting for your reply. Who are you, really?

Easy task, do this ChangeNow.io and you will be legit. Otherwise you know what you are.
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September 11, 2018, 12:09:57 PM
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September 11, 2018, 12:37:34 PM
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Could you kindly tell us your official phone numbers and registered address, wherever it is that you operate from? Surely, as a non-anonymous exchange, you wouldn't be operating anonymously, would you? I would like to know who I am sending my personal identification to, and I am sure the op feels the same way too. You must admit that nobody in their right mind would send their data to an anonymous company.


For example, these are the two exchanges I use, and I wouldn't hesitate to send them my ID's. This, because I know that if anything goes wrong, my lawyers can find them. I cannot find any information for Changenow outside their support ticket and telegram.

Coinbase
San Francisco (HQ)
United States
548 Market St #23008 94104
+1 888 908-7930 (US/Intl)
0808 168 4635 (UK)

Bittrex
Bittrex Incorporated
800 5th Avenue
Ste. 4100
Seattle, WA 98104-3100
+1(888)-474-0472
+33 9 77 55 47 75



Hello!

We've never hidden anything about the company. As a lot of blockchain companies, ours is registered in Belize.
Our team is distributed worldwide, which is also a standard practice for companies working in the crypto/blockchain industry.
All official inquiries, both by phone and by mail, can be directed at our Amsterdam office: ChangeNOW International Ltd., Amsterdam, Kraanspoor
Kraanspoor 50, Amsterdam, 1033 SE, Amsterdam, Netherlands, +31 36 845 4118.

To reiterate: we are not a public company, therefore we are not obligated to disclose any of our names and surnames.
Our investors have all the necessary information about us, and the current state of matters is perfectly satisfactory for everyone involved.
However, you can always contact our company through the channels below and be sure you will be replied to:
Our support: support@changenow.io
Our general inquiries email: info@changenow.io
Me personally, as I am the official rep of ChangeNOW on Bitcointalk
Our Telegram chat: https://t.me/NOWtoken_Bounty

If you want to meet any of our team members personally, you might catch them at blockchain conferences.
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September 11, 2018, 01:11:33 PM
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Hello!

We've never hidden anything about the company. As a lot of blockchain companies, ours is registered in Belize.
Our team is distributed worldwide, which is also a standard practice for companies working in the crypto/blockchain industry.
All official inquiries, both by phone and by mail, can be directed at our Amsterdam office: ChangeNOW International Ltd., Amsterdam, Kraanspoor
Kraanspoor 50, Amsterdam, 1033 SE, Amsterdam, Netherlands, +31 36 845 4118.

To reiterate: we are not a public company, therefore we are not obligated to disclose any of our names and surnames.
Our investors have all the necessary information about us, and the current state of matters is perfectly satisfactory for everyone involved.
However, you can always contact our company through the channels below and be sure you will be replied to:
Our support: support@changenow.io
Our general inquiries email: info@changenow.io
Me personally, as I am the official rep of ChangeNOW on Bitcointalk
Our Telegram chat: https://t.me/NOWtoken_Bounty

If you want to meet any of our team members personally, you might catch them at blockchain conferences.

You sound like a bunch of scammers to me by not giving out full names because you are not a public company! Now we get an address in Amsterdam when it was all about Russia before... pathetic.

So if your investors have all necessary information about you kindly explain who your investors are and please provide the names and numbers of the "Interpol, Europol, and other authorities" officers you sent allegedly sent your "file" regarding the OP to.

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Hello!

We've never hidden anything about the company. As a lot of blockchain companies, ours is registered in Belize.
Our team is distributed worldwide, which is also a standard practice for companies working in the crypto/blockchain industry.
All official inquiries, both by phone and by mail, can be directed at our Amsterdam office: ChangeNOW International Ltd., Amsterdam, Kraanspoor
Kraanspoor 50, Amsterdam, 1033 SE, Amsterdam, Netherlands, +31 36 845 4118.

To reiterate: we are not a public company, therefore we are not obligated to disclose any of our names and surnames.
Our investors have all the necessary information about us, and the current state of matters is perfectly satisfactory for everyone involved.
However, you can always contact our company through the channels below and be sure you will be replied to:
Our support: support@changenow.io
Our general inquiries email: info@changenow.io
Me personally, as I am the official rep of ChangeNOW on Bitcointalk
Our Telegram chat: https://t.me/NOWtoken_Bounty

If you want to meet any of our team members personally, you might catch them at blockchain conferences.

Who is working there?
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ChangeNOW International Ltd., Amsterdam, Kraanspoor
Kraanspoor 50, Amsterdam, 1033 SE, Amsterdam, Netherlands, +31 36 845 4118.

All your team are in St Petersburg:
https://postimg.cc/image/9d9eoze9t (the page was removed a 5 weeks ago)
Why I don't see at least one non-Rusian name? Where is Amsterdam citizens?

Also they are employees of Evercode Lab. Also 2 of these persons are founders of evercodelab
https://postimg.cc/image/6j69bhmdd/ (the founders were changed 3 weeks ago; the office was abandoned, new address of the office is secret)


So you bought a company in the dirtiest and cheapest offshore zone(no more than $1000) and also bought postal address-phone in Amsterdam($100 monthly)?

Ok. I believe you. Just tell me who is this person
https://postimg.cc/image/i8a8z5nj5/
https://postimg.cc/image/odwzy37rl/
https://postimg.cc/image/b52djluz5/
Is this imposter?
In my opinion, this is a Russian fraudster who poses as CEO of your company. Let's send a collective statement to Eupropol and Interpol!

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our Amsterdam office: ChangeNOW International Ltd., Amsterdam, Kraanspoor
Kraanspoor 50, Amsterdam, 1033 SE, Amsterdam, Netherlands, +31 36 845 4118.
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If you want to meet any of our team members personally, you might catch them at blockchain conferences.
So you're saying if I go to Kraanspoor 50 in Amsterdam (where you can conveniently rent office space starting at the size of a small bathroom) I won't find you guys there?

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Last edit: September 11, 2018, 02:13:19 PM by JollyGood
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To reiterate: we are not a public company, therefore we are not obligated to disclose any of our names and surnames.
Our investors have all the necessary information about us, and the current state of matters is perfectly satisfactory for everyone involved.
However, you can always contact our company through the channels below and be sure you will be replied to:
Our support: support@changenow.io
Our general inquiries email: info@changenow.io
Me personally, as I am the official rep of ChangeNOW on Bitcointalk
Our Telegram chat: https://t.me/NOWtoken_Bounty

If you want to meet any of our team members personally, you might catch them at blockchain conferences.

Are you serious? Do you expect people to meet your team members at blockchain conferences but they will keep their full names hidden? They will peddle their nonsense at blockchain conferences which people are supposed to believe but they will keep their identity hidden and expect business, trade, promotion and investment? You are a liar. Thanks to the OP your shady disgraceful operation has been exposed.

You are a pathetic bunch of scammers. You used a selective scamming process that backfired on this occasion because the OP (ni23457 ) decided he was not going to sit quietly while you scammed him and he paid money from his own pocket to let the world know about you scamming thieving liars. I have total respect for the OP but zero respect for you pathetic changenow scammers.

Check out their Trustpilot, pathetic: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/changenow.io

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>Do you expect people to meet your team members at blockchain conferences but they will keep their full names hidden?

Have you ever visited any blockchain related conference? Have you ever participated in any blockchain related business? I guess no. The same troll as ni23457 is

> You sound like a bunch of scammers to me by not giving out full names because you are not a public company!

Do you think every company in the world would disclose you its employees? Really? Emotions (or money) clouded your mind

>CHANGENOW HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF SELECTIVE SCAMMING IN WHICH A USER LOST A MASSIVE 11 BTC. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM CHANGENOW AND USE CHANGELLY INSTEAD.

Hahaha, you are the one we should trust
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A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.

Nowhere on their changenow website (About Us, FAQ etc) is "Belize" mentioned except in their Terms of Use (Part 5 Governing Law): https://changenow.io/terms-of-use

"Governing Law Our Terms are governed by the laws of the Belize, and any and all laws applicable therein. Our Terms are to be treated in all respects as a Belize contract. We and you irrevocably and unconditionally attorn to the non-exclusive jurisdiction, venue, and forum of the Belize, and all courts competent to hear appeals therefrom."


This pathetic changenow website is one to stay away from because some times they state they are from Russia (Evercode lab. St. Petersburg, Ligovsky prospect, 50, building 13, office 28, +7 812 646-96-32) and sometimes they say they are registered in Belize and sometimes they say they are registered in Netherlands.

So if they are governed by the laws of Belize why are they registered in Netherlands? Pathetic. This changenow website and project seem to be an elaborate scam with selective scamming.

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>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.

Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?

Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.
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>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.

Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?

Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.

Welcome back, its been a while. I figured you were on vacation or something like that. Well deserved rest enh? My question is, have you reported the OP to Interpol, Europol, Belizpol, etc, yet? What is the delay? Its been over 2 months now. How difficult is it to fill out a couple of forms, make a report and turn the coins over to them? The coins are heavy to move ehn? Cold storage indeed, or have you spent it already? Some people could think that's why you haven't made this report or returned them to the OP.
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September 11, 2018, 03:17:31 PM
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>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.

Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?

Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.

What is wrong is that they claim "changeNOW International Ltd" is registered in Belize and they also claim "changeNOW International Ltd" is registered in Netherlands as per their address. If not then it is another way to misdirect people by using a clause in their TOS to show they are registered in Belize but give the impression they are registered in Netherlands which is where their alleged Amsterdam office is.


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>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.

Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?

Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.

Welcome back, its been a while. I figured you were on vacation or something like that. Well deserved rest enh? My question is, have you reported the OP to Interpol, Europol, Belizpol, etc, yet? What is the delay? Its been over 2 months now. How difficult is it to fill out a couple of forms, make a report and turn the coins over to them? The coins are heavy to move ehn? Cold storage indeed, or have you spent it already? Some people could think that's why you haven't made this report or returned them to the OP.

Dear ni23457, why do you use different accounts? Aren’t you brave enough to post from your main account? Or maybe you are going to buy more accs and go on shotposting as you are doing at reddit

>What is wrong is that they claim "changeNOW International Ltd" is registered in Belize and they also claim "changeNOW International Ltd"

Good point. They shouldn't mislead their customers on that matter
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>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.

Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?

Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.

Welcome back, its been a while. I figured you were on vacation or something like that. Well deserved rest enh? My question is, have you reported the OP to Interpol, Europol, Belizpol, etc, yet? What is the delay? Its been over 2 months now. How difficult is it to fill out a couple of forms, make a report and turn the coins over to them? The coins are heavy to move ehn? Cold storage indeed, or have you spent it already? Some people could think that's why you haven't made this report or returned them to the OP.

Dear ni23457, why do you ise different accounts? Aren’t you brave enough to write from your main account? Or maybe you are going to buy more accs and go on shotposting as you are doing at reddit

>What is wrong is that they claim "changeNOW International Ltd" is registered in Belize and they also claim "changeNOW International Ltd"

Good point. They shouldn't mislead their customers on that matter

How stupid can you be? You mean someone who destroyed your reputation and paid for a banner advertising your scam needs to post from several accounts? Answer the question and stop deflecting? Do I sound like the Op to you? Why haven't you reported the case to Belizpol yet? Have you spent the BTC? I hear you are cash strapped, so stealing is the next step to meet your overhead.
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Dear ni23457, why do you use different accounts? Aren’t you brave enough to post from your main account? Or maybe you are going to buy more accs and go on shotposting as you are doing at reddit

>What is wrong is that they claim "changeNOW International Ltd" is registered in Belize and they also claim "changeNOW International Ltd"

Good point. They shouldn't mislead their customers on that matter

I personally have no problem with changenow if they behaved in a good way. Their website is a take on the Changelly layout which is not a crime but the fact they have tried to stay anonymous themselves without making it clear who they themselves are, makes this structure not viable.

They are an anonymous group of people who want to remain anonymous all the while they are asking selective scamming victims to send their ID to them. They claim they are adhering to AML/KYC but that sounds like a pack of lies just an excuse to keep hold of funds that were sent to them.

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>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.

Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?

Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.

Welcome back, its been a while. I figured you were on vacation or something like that. Well deserved rest enh? My question is, have you reported the OP to Interpol, Europol, Belizpol, etc, yet? What is the delay? Its been over 2 months now. How difficult is it to fill out a couple of forms, make a report and turn the coins over to them? The coins are heavy to move ehn? Cold storage indeed, or have you spent it already? Some people could think that's why you haven't made this report or returned them to the OP.

Dear ni23457, why do you ise different accounts? Aren’t you brave enough to write from your main account? Or maybe you are going to buy more accs and go on shotposting as you are doing at reddit

>What is wrong is that they claim "changeNOW International Ltd" is registered in Belize and they also claim "changeNOW International Ltd"

Good point. They shouldn't mislead their customers on that matter

How stupid can you be? You mean someone who destroyed your reputation and paid for a banner advertising your scam needs to post from several accounts? Answer the question and stop deflecting? Do I sound like the Op to you? Why haven't you reported the case to Belizpol yet? Have you spent the BTC? I hear you are cash strapped, so stealing is the next step to meet your overhead.

I don't understand how these questions are related to me. But I understand your tactics.
You are using your main account ni23457 when you want to act like a honest guy who was robbed.
After few inconvenient questions from me (or other reasons you become angry) you login to one of your farmed accounts and start spreading bullshit in a very offensive manner. So stupid, like a kid.
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I don't understand how these questions are related to me. But I understand your tactics.
They are related to you, because you and changenow are one and the same. You work for them, or should I call you Roman Lapin, just the same way you assume I am the OP?

You are using your main account ni23457 when you want to act like a honest guy
Because you do it, does not mean everybody does it. A liar thinks everybody lies. A thief assumes everybody steals.

guy who was robbed.
The Op was robbed by changenow, and you by association. And no amount of posturing by you and your crew will change that.

After few inconvenient questions from me (or other reasons you become angry) you login to one of your farmed accounts and start spreading bullshit in a very offensive manner. So stupid, like a kid.
What inconvenient questions? I dont see any, ask them again please. The one deflecting here again is you. Have you submitted your report to the authorities? Asking again in case you did not see it the last time. Why haven't you, and why is it taking too long?

you login to one of your farmed accounts and start spreading bullshit in a very offensive manner. So stupid, like a kid.
Coming from you I'll take this with a healthy pinch of salt. Considering all the unfounded accusations you leveled against the OP, calling him a terrorist, hacker, money launderer, etc Without offering a single shred of evidence. Oh yeah, so stupid and dumb, but then I digress.

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September 11, 2018, 04:56:03 PM
 #320

>They are related to you, because you and changenow are one and the same. You work for them, or should I call you Roman Lapin, just the same way you assume I am the OP?

LOL, you forgot to take your pills today =)))

I'm fighting against you, Mr. ni23457 for the bullshit he is sending to me in PM. Should I publish it here?
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