Now, we have complaints of non-payment... Hey Btcjua I played your game and won. I havent received pay is this a scam? I want my pay. My transaction id 908166516ed3ae0dfc6f0999c9380d28708c58c1abb2df32875df5c20e8a0b33
Please send me my win, it isnt that much saying you have 10btc for your site. I would suggest no one play until he send the money.
There were more. But, those have been deleted before I archive. Hence, I have archived this one - http://archive.is/M375c |
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i deleted your one post after i warned you to not use Over Sized RED TEXT
You criminal. You deleted all my posts till date. |
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its good that you too took time creating this thread, now can you explain how can a old member abuse trust system ?
Which old member you are talking about? since you left a negative rep, and you called my project scam, i require proof that i took your money.
Payment Method:
Proof of Payment:
Are you using a purchased account? How come a Full Member ask such question? From when negative rep requires you to take my money? I have listed you lies, which shows your scammy behaviour. Instead of trying to dodge questions, try to answer them. Otherwise, more negative rep may be directed at your way in future. Its not bookmark moron. Its archive. Moreover, its not a moderated thread like yours. I can't delete your post, like you did mine on your thread. So, no point in archiving here. -----------------FOLLOW THIS FORMAT PLEASE----------------------------------------------- Scam Report Format [b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
Historically this format has not been followed in many scam accusations, which led to the person getting negative rep from DT. This format is just a guideline and I partially followed it as well. |
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Just look at his response to some of the legitimate queries... ^ So far we have this: 1) Bankroll on exchange 2) 10BTC in bankroll but doesn't want to sign message 3) Faking bets. Besides, I believe 6 days is more than enough to sign message. Bankroll on an exchange? This is my first time to see for a certain gambling site on storing up their bankroll into that place  I was amazed on how he do still able to answer inspite on all the things you have connected above and with those transactions it would really be hard to deny. Faking bets indeed. sure why not and can you please post txn ids ? how hard is to wait for the next update ? can't a guy have peace of mind while working ? how hard is for you guys to wait for update ? i feel secure processing payouts from exchange then what's your problem ? did you not got your payout ? can you please sign a message from any address that placed bet or are you just talking to increase your post count ? ^ So far we have this: 1) Bankroll on exchange 2) 10BTC in bankroll but doesn't want to sign message 3) Faking bets. Besides, I believe 6 days is more than enough to sign message. so far we seen this 1✓ all players got payout, some payouts ehere delayed 2-3 hour's but everyone got it. 2✓ 10 btc on bankroll, all on exchange, cause i am not running full node yet, i would share read only exchange keys but i don't think you would be educated enough to read that. 3✓ faking bets ? what that even mean ? this is Blockchain based game not some c class app that i can create fake bets, everything is based on Blockchain there is no database, so its impossible for me to display a value which is not present on Blockchain, every transaction on website has verify button, why don't you click that and see how things works. by the way the code on front is itself plain and simple JavaScript, it takes 2 minutes so educate yourself and see how things working. ✓ if you can sign a message from a address with bet from last 7 days from now, i will specially withdraw from exchange sign in a message and put back to exchange. simply i would waste my time instead of developing just to stop you irritating me.
this thread is for genuine players asking questions and provide suggestion, don't use it as means to increase your post count and fullfill signature campaign requirements |
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I've asked him for a signed message proving his 30 Bitcoin, but only got evasive answers.
I don't trust him, but that's not enough for red trust.
Check his thread. The series of lies and dodgy answer continues... |
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They wrote this in topic: FOR GEEKS Signed Message :
address->1V3ncM1s6pDzk8hmTuexvdbkTwTpVN8qZ
message ->btcjua.com
signature->HK8ZCeRNuGpZ1wA1xrX9QqcjniYh8UEXIclTA8ulirwWPog1a888ubvpT1D19YTpsuJ07Jmz0tXAVpT Hb/QAtX8=
THIS IS OUR ONLY ADDRESS
This is our only address is almost empty:  So where is 10 BTC bankroll? I mean, where is their bankroll? Thread is self moderated, hopefully they won't remove my reply there  OMFG! Just look at his dodgy response. Appears to be a seasoned scammer... Where is your bankroll? Signed address from OP shows only 0.004 BTC. Can you sign message from address where your funds are to prove that you are solvent? bankroll verification is coming soon
This was posted 3 hours ago, it is more than enough time to sign message. I see you are online so it won't be hard to sign message in next 10 minutes. I won't accept "soon" as an answer as you allowed deposits. right now its in my exchange wallet, i use exchange api for withdraw at the moment as i ditched running full node. coming soon = next update. [ this is why i specially mentioned it ] i need to integrate full node that would take some time. i been working on this non stop till last 10 days. ill see how much faster i can psuh, but since mobile ui update took me 2-3 days, i guess you all have to wait. Bankroll will be shown on website itself, after the update, then i will entertain your request meanwhile wait for the update. if current bankroll is low, it will be refilled by system, as you can see in history i already paid payouts. if you feel unsecure about it please don't bet until, i post an update here AND MY FAV LINE : post your transaction hash, if you didn't get paid. simple plain and smooth |
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Scammer Name: bitcoinfuckScammer Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021066Site Name: BTCJUA.comThread Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5073341.0Thread Archive: http://archive.is/QVsarLie #1: Bankroll is 10 BTC.FOR GEEKS Signed Message :
address->1V3ncM1s6pDzk8hmTuexvdbkTwTpVN8qZ
message ->btcjua.com
signature->HK8ZCeRNuGpZ1wA1xrX9QqcjniYh8UEXIclTA8ulirwWPog1a888ubvpT1D19YTpsuJ07Jmz0tXAVpT Hb/QAtX8=
THIS IS OUR ONLY ADDRESS
UPDATE : Increased Bankroll to 10 BTC
Show 10 BTC at your signed address or sign some other address holding 10 BTC.Archived for reference: http://archive.is/d9YUH
yo its you again, bankroll verification is coming soon directly to website and to be honest this is due to your past reviews.
we the update the bankroll will be widget or section on website, showing bankroll amount, max-bet and number bets each day.
Telegram group is coming soon, and maybe the bots that would generate signature from address automatically each day, and give people various stats about the website.
HOW IT WORKS ? BTCJUA FEATURES no problems it will be on blockchain once its proceeds, i usually process winners together each day by 4 am, check my past post i always process them together
Lie #3: Showing a cold wallet address in OP and claiming his funds are in exchange.FOR GEEKS Signed Message :
address->1V3ncM1s6pDzk8hmTuexvdbkTwTpVN8qZ
message ->btcjua.com
signature->HK8ZCeRNuGpZ1wA1xrX9QqcjniYh8UEXIclTA8ulirwWPog1a888ubvpT1D19YTpsuJ07Jmz0tXAVpT Hb/QAtX8=
THIS IS OUR ONLY ADDRESS
I PREFER KEEPING FUNDS IN EXCHANGE TO BE HACK PROOF
Lie #4: Someone won 0.074 BTC on the game.0.074 BTC WON BY A USER TODAY Please post winning address along with the transaction hashes, by which the winner received 0.074 BTC today. Latest archive: http://archive.is/SLf9Uyea as soon as i hear from them, talk with btcevo and other members, i don't know if they want there address disclosed. but anyways the biggest winner address will always be on the thread. also the btcjua has blokchain.com tagged address, means any transaction coming and going from btcjua will show our site name.  What? You claim to be running a blockchain based game. So, bets are supposed to be placed from addresses, not user names. So, either your post winning address along with the transaction hashes, by which the winner received 0.074 BTC today, or you are clearly scamming.lol i don't want to do that, neither i want you to use this red text, why don't you pm everyone who posted here and let them know you want to know the experience with site. you have no right to call me scammer without proof, if you or your friend sent any money please accuse me with the transaction hash of payment. WITH BIG RED LINES I WILL ANSWER ABOUT IT. without it if you are accusing me then clearly you are paid to demote other projects by some big gambling site. if anyone who won and and want to accuse me of not received money, can post there transaction hash here and then i can answer to there accusations and i have already paid out many users as it can be seen on the forum. my bankroll is already -0.1 down which proofs that i am a legit services . MEANWHILE HERE IS PROOF FOR LAST SESSION : Input :https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cf376f67287180ca39eedf468630af8b1cbdbd15e8fa7df1160972cdfb956e1ehttps://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/68415e423c6106ca0fd92117d8ee3258234273a3d5e4876e14ba1333d07d3241https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/eb9ff00efc1c65124bf55220c55ba88dc66d51e0bebe43ddfe64272b151f037bhttps://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/96bbc5891d72dcc16933c7470a00cf27ef6841ba5f0e69e9e19e2d67a1334d89https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1PmkhY5KxsKZr9uyPst13sdrcbKJoxpAef ( i think this one belongs to BTCEVO legendry trusted memeber of this forum, idk forsure why don't you pm him ) Payout (3x money sent to winners):https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1c7160d45bb99fc0c2cf7bdabdddbb9409b029478f283dbd5af947bc55670e410.0251804 (bet amount) * 3 multiplier = 0.0755412 Winning Tx hash is what I am asking for. I do not trust scripted sites that show you a stream of bets like that as soon as you visit the site:  you want me to believe that a new site without any history accepted bets of over 10 bitcoins during that one minute that I spent on the site? it shows you the hash, suggesting that the bets can be verified and are real are they? yes sir, they are real transactions, but it was made by me to test this application. many of those transaction was made with the purpose of testing the application for any algorithmic problems. I own the address and i signed the message so there is no question about realness. if its on blockchain its permanent and algorithmic. Are you claiming that 10 BTC has been transacted on your site today? just click transaction link and find out, this address is being used by me for testing the app and yes i signed the address => my address => got money on that address = my funds The question is whether all these transactions taken place today? veleten asked if took place within a minute? I am asking if it happened today?
The question is whether all these transactions taken place today? veleten asked if took place within a minute? I am asking if it happened today?
 most recent trxns Do NOT try to dodge the question. The question is... Are you claiming that 10 BTC has been transacted on your site today?also you can copy paste any transaction id into any blokchain explorer like blockchain.com or btc.com to find the more details about it, and if you want to check its fairness just use the script given on website or use the algorithm above. btc.com / transaction you want to know about thank you for your time, let me know if you have any issues
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0.074 BTC WON BY A USER TODAY Please post winning address along with the transaction hashes, by which the winner received 0.074 BTC today. Latest archive: http://archive.is/SLf9Uyea as soon as i hear from them, talk with btcevo and other members, i don't know if they want there address disclosed. but anyways the biggest winner address will always be on the thread. also the btcjua has blokchain.com tagged address, means any transaction coming and going from btcjua will show our site name. What? You claim to be running a blockchain based game. So, bets are supposed to be placed from addresses, not user names. So, either your post winning address along with the transaction hashes, by which the winner received 0.074 BTC today, or you are clearly scamming. |
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0.074 BTC WON BY A USER TODAY Please post winning address along with the transaction hashes, by which the winner received 0.074 BTC today. Latest archive: http://archive.is/SLf9U |
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The question is whether all these transactions taken place today? veleten asked if took place within a minute? I am asking if it happened today?
most recent trxns Do NOT try to dodge the question. The question is... Are you claiming that 10 BTC has been transacted on your site today? |
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I do not trust scripted sites that show you a stream of bets like that as soon as you visit the site: you want me to believe that a new site without any history accepted bets of over 10 bitcoins during that one minute that I spent on the site? it shows you the hash, suggesting that the bets can be verified and are real are they? yes sir, they are real transactions, but it was made by me to test this application. many of those transaction was made with the purpose of testing the application for any algorithmic problems. I own the address and i signed the message so there is no question about realness. if its on blockchain its permanent and algorithmic. Are you claiming that 10 BTC has been transacted on your site today? just click transaction link and find out, this address is being used by me for testing the app and yes i signed the address => my address => got money on that address = my funds The question is whether all these transactions taken place today? veleten asked if took place within a minute? I am asking if it happened today? |
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I do not trust scripted sites that show you a stream of bets like that as soon as you visit the site: you want me to believe that a new site without any history accepted bets of over 10 bitcoins during that one minute that I spent on the site? it shows you the hash, suggesting that the bets can be verified and are real are they? yes sir, they are real transactions, but it was made by me to test this application. many of those transaction was made with the purpose of testing the application for any algorithmic problems. I own the address and i signed the message so there is no question about realness. if its on blockchain its permanent and algorithmic. Are you claiming that 10 BTC has been transacted on your site today? |
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Yours is neither a service announcement one, nor you have sent 50 merits to OP at one go! So, unfortunately, its not you. Interestingly, the service provider I am talking about, has also received some questionable trust feedback from DT. But, that was being discussed here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034828.0. |
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Should we consider it merit abuse? If yes, will the sender/receiver receive -ve trust from DT?
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Moreover, I think, people posting on Flat Earth etc. should not be dealt with trust feedback. They rather deserve to be in ignore list. We already have enough scams to deal with. Check the users I have left -ve trust. Some of those scammers are not yet tagged by DT.
I'm not saying he is a scammer. I'm saying he is a nut job and should not be trusted. You are NOT saying he is a scammer. But, the tool you have used is meant to identify scammers. Its like police arrests you and keep you in lock up, saying... "We're not saying he's a drug lord. But he's a Bitcoiner. So, he can be one." But it's up to you. If you don't trust the guy, you're well within your rights to give him a neg. I just think it's pretty harsh.
Here is the fallacy. A random guy on BitcoinTalk can do whatever with his trust feedback. But, when it's from a DT member, it's NOT personal anymore. DT feedback represents forum trust. So, it must be rational & justified. |
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As much as I respect Vod--and I respect him a great deal--I think he probably shouldn't have left that feedback for the reason he gave.
Thank you. How can I trust someone who ignores all scientific laws? You probably should not have left a -ve trust. A neutral feedback would have suffice. Moreover, I think, people posting on Flat Earth etc. should not be dealt with trust feedback. They rather deserve to be in ignore list. We already have enough scams to deal with. Check the users I have left -ve trust. Some of those scammers are not yet tagged by DT. |
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+ve trust never hold any weight it self, it doesn't mean you should trust him blindly. There is a comment why DT2 trust him. It might be campaign or trading something. I can trust you for any specific reasone, it doesn't mean I am selling possitive trust. Same as for DT2. If they leave positive feedback there is specific reasone. But now a days DT forgot there is a neutral option to handle such as feedback although I will not consider it trust abuse but they should use neutral feedback occasionally.
However you should see the comment why a user got positive feedback before make any transaction or trading. All positive trusted people's couldn't trusted for you. That's depend on you.
This thread does not require your How to use DefaultTrust lecture. We already have had enough of them since DT was introduced. So, please keep your signature spam elsewhere. |
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Really depends. If the campaign manager in question has risked some amount of Bitcoin (as in he went first in the transaction) and the business that hired him didn't screw him over, there's (mostly; there's probably some edge cases where it might be questionable) nothing wrong with leaving positive Trust feedback for a business you had transacted with. The issue comes up whenever the campaign manager doesn't risk anything (gets paid upfront, has the bounty campaign budget escrowed or sent to him before the campaign starts) yet still leaves positive feedback, which, in part, could be viewed as selling positive Trust feedback (which one of the reasons why I don't leave 0 amount risked positive Trust feedback for any transactions I partake in anymore).
I'm curious: which users specifically are you referring to?
When leaving +ve trust, these people are commenting that they used the service and mentioning an arbitrary amount in 'Risked BTC amount'. But, as expected, they are not mentioning anything under 'Reference', because they never used their service in the first place. Now, you can't argue, because you don't have any proof either. So, what to do in such cases? Burden of proof relies on whom? |
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