as written several times in this thread, do not see any thick wallets which could resemble BTER Asiacoin wallet.

Total number of Asiacoins which BTER should theoretically have should be 2+ million maybe several times that

such BTER wallets should have at least some inputs/outputs even if cold wallets

at BTER all the time AC withdrawals were always delayed: to withdraw Asiacoin from BTER had to wait until price has fallen

as written many times in this thread - BTER sold all Asiacoin below 100 sats hoping for price fall

cannot imagine BTER to be so generous to rebuy Asiacoins at higher price

glad to see you around again

any news from BTER ? any responses to tickets ?

as to me: withdrawals blocked all the time ?

during latest recent Cryptsy scandals  lot of inside info was discovered

real secrets

mostly on this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703

already 323 pages of Cryptsy secrets


some points:


1.Cryptsy had always quite a number of in-house altcoins and in-house altcoin developers

among these in-house altcoins : examples of HBN and Colossus

2.original Asiacoin scammer-developer it had to be someone very close to Cryptsy itself.
There are several leads. Would not go into detail here.

3.Cryptsy always had huge number of Asiacoins. This big number of Asiacoins on Cryptsy wallets was not corresponding to low volume on exchange.
It could be explained this way - Cryptsy invests in some altcoins just to make market in these coins.

In the light of recent developments - more likely Cryptsy's millions of Asiacoins were leftovers from the original scam, washed through Mintpal


some example: wallet https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ac/address.dws?AcNosZPxdcBhJCdiA7zQynNjanVXWVSSMP.htm

this wallet had over 18 million Asiacoins till march, 2015. Then started to move all 18+ millions to Cryptsy hot wallets for sale

( Cryptsy had cash problem in 2015, losing a lot in operations )

from these over 18 millions: quite a number - more than 8 millions were not sold yet in 2015

these 8+ miliions traced from AcNosZPxdcBhJCdiA7zQynNjanVXWVSSMP started making some splits and transfers last months of 2015 and beginning of 2016

the point is : does not look like these around 8 millions or more were returned to some legitimate owner of AcNosZPxdcBhJCdiA7zQynNjanVXWVSSMP.

quite strong suspicion is : this wallet AcNosZPxdcBhJCdiA7zQynNjanVXWVSSMP was not some legitimate Asiacoin purchaser from 2014, but it was another Cryptsy - related

cold wallet ( Asiacoins from original scam, washed through Mintpal, unsold in 2014 due to extremely low volume of Asiacoin then )


today one of Cryptsy - related wallets started moving again : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ac/block.dws?971024.htm


it is not quite clear, what Cryptsy guys would do with millions of Asiacoins.
Apart from around 8 millions traced from AcNosZPxdcBhJCdiA7zQynNjanVXWVSSMP, there are more thick wallets which could be traced on the blockchain as very closely related to Cryptsy

Actually, these millions of Asiacoins from Cryptsy ( stolen or hacked or whatever ) can kill Asiacoin price again in 2016, similarly as hacked Cryptsy millions killed price of Asiacoin in 2014

Cryptsy - related guys have some pressure to sell altcoins fast ( altcoins are stolen - this time stolen from Cryptsy corporation ) - pressure from divorce trial, also from class action case, and possibly from bankruptcy legal procedures.

Cryptsy's guys - despite having millions of unsold Asiacoins from original hack - even in quiet period ( end 2014 and q1 to q3 of 2015 ) - has made absolutely nothing to help Asiacoin  grow ( to easier unload their hacked millions ). Just the reverse. Made Asiacoin freeze for months - just to unfreeze to unload some millions fast.
Cryptsy guys were never acting like businessmen - always acting only as scammers and leechers




edit:
please to comment on: option of Asiacoin exchange to Asiacoin 2.0
Asiacoin wallet version 2.2.1 is based on  Asiacoin Micryon source - and that is based on Bitcoin core version 0.6.3
more explanations:
Now Bitcoin has already version v0.12.0rc4 : https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases
New version of Bitcoin code are almost incompatible with 0.6.3
quote:
Bitcoin Core now uses 'headers-first synchronization'. This means that we first
ask peers for block headers (a total of 27 megabytes, as of December 2014) and
validate those. In a second stage, when the headers have been discovered, we
download the blocks. However, as we already know about the whole chain in
advance, the blocks can be downloaded in parallel from all available peers.
In practice, this means a much faster and more robust synchronization.
This release supports running a fully validating node without maintaining a copy
of the raw block and undo data on disk. To recap, there are four types of data
related to the blockchain in the bitcoin system: the raw blocks as received over
the network (blk???.dat), the undo data (rev???.dat), the block index and the
UTXO set (both LevelDB databases). The databases are built from the raw data.
Block pruning allows Bitcoin Core to delete the raw block and undo data once
it's been validated and used to build the databases. At that point, the raw data
is used only to relay blocks to other nodes, to handle reorganizations, to look
up old transactions (if -txindex is enabled or via the RPC/REST interfaces), or
for rescanning the wallet. The block index continues to hold the metadata about
all blocks in the blockchain.
The user specifies how much space to allot for block & undo files. The minimum
allowed is 550MB. Note that this is in addition to whatever is required for the
block index and UTXO databases. The minimum was chosen so that Bitcoin Core will
be able to maintain at least 288 blocks on disk (two days worth of blocks at 10
minutes per block). In rare instances it is possible that the amount of space
used will exceed the pruning target in order to keep the required last 288
blocks on disk.
Block pruning works during initial sync in the same way as during steady state,
by deleting block files "as you go" whenever disk space is allocated. Thus, if
the user specifies 550MB, once that level is reached the program will begin
deleting the oldest block and undo files, while continuing to download the
blockchain.
Experimental support for big-endian CPU architectures was added in this
release. All little-endian specific code was replaced with endian-neutral
constructs. This has been tested on at least MIPS and PPC hosts. The build
system will automatically detect the endianness of the target.
Asiacoin 1.0 problems ( repost )
this premine wallet with 3.2 billion coins is visible today well in Abe explorer for Asiacoin
http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=AC&top_addresses=100
actually with so much hacking of altcoins going on, one could not be sure that in future would not exist another hacked wallet allowing
for gradual reintroducing premine coins to Asiacoin
especially if original Asiacoin wallet had been crafted by Cryptsy-related hacker-developer ( as indicated above ) and nobody later was able to reanalyze roughly 39.000 lines of Asiacoin 1.0 code

edit:repost
some fresh idea to exclude stolen coins from cryptsy
placebo
Hero Member
Activity: 784
Posts: 11612
Hi All,
I would suggest that ALL coins would make a version 2. Why? Cryptsy is holding a lot of small coins, KARMA, LOT, MOON, LEAF, ....
maybe they have a supply of 80% of all the outstanding coins, so we should all make KARMA2, LOT2, MOON2, LEAF2,... type of coins and swap the coins that aren't on cryptsy.
This will mean Cryptsy wouldn't be able to dump their coins on other markets and make another few millions and it can give the current owners of those coins maybe some money back if they were able to withdraw at least a few coins...
Cryptsy is down, so who knows how much coins you have... the best idea would be that everybody could take a screenshot for their stake, but with a exchange down.... in fact i already suggested that weeks ago on the KARM and MOON thread to make a new coin because everybody knew that there were big problems with withdraws... There isn't any perfect solution... only that cryptsy is back and is 100% ôperational, then there is no need for doing this type of actions, but now... do you want to continue trading other coins when you know that Cryptsy will be able to dump their stake on Bittrex, C-CEX, and other exchanges...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1330315.new#new

Asiacoin 2.0 will be based on 2016 coin source, with all distinctive features of Asiacoin intact (Pure POS and so on)

as to exchange Asiacoin to Asiacoin 2.0 : we propose to exchange to anyone who will request within specified time frame with no further questions asked
time frame being ( as usual with known coin exchanges ) : one to two months

there is new and interesting exchange

listed on coinmarketcap.com

new technology including instant exchange - similar to shapeshift.io


voting is open


it would be good to vote for Asiacoin by everyone concerned

https://safecex.com/coin/add?q=ac

exchange is a headache

sent 2 PM to Bittrex - no response

sent PM to Btc38 - no response

before have submitted for Yobit listing - no reaction despite submitting application on their page

actually was thinking of some sort of BTER solution : forget ( for the time being ) blocked Asiacoin millions
( let's them move frozen Asiacoin to AC-B as Bitcoins ) and reopen trading
still thinking of it

also thinking of implementing new wallet with in-wallet exchange
this is quite complicated and such wallet could crash

actually thinking of issuing new Asiacoin wallet with completely rewritten codebase
present Asiacoin wallet ( around 39.000 lines of code in total ) has been derived from Bitcoin core version 2013 on Novacoin/Blackcoin path
and this forking was not very top quality ( especially last fork BLK>AC )
sorry but it nearly imposible to safely analyse thoroughly these 39.000 lines of code
nowadays people do not trust anything related to Cryptsy after massive scam
1.mullick dabbled with Asiacoin : https://github.com/Mullick/AsiaCoinFix
2.Cryptsy has today a hacked Asiacoin client which allows multiple send of unconfirmed Asiacoin several times in a single block

example block : chainz.cryptoid.info/ac/block.dws?925374.htm
in this block : Cryptsy makes 3 transfers of same Asiacoins within single block ( two of them being of obviously unconfirmed amounts )
such Cryptsy blockS were seen in bigger numbers before
nobody knows how far Cryptsy hacked Asiacoin wallet
actually after Asiacoin premine was discovered end April 2014 - main intention of salvage group was to exchange all Asiacoins to new coin with a new blockchain without 3.2 billion premine wallet
then came new salvage group with Maestro1 claiming no need to exchange Asiacoin to a new coin, that 3.2 billion premine wallet will be software blocked
obviously, Maestro1 and all his team were in bed with original Asiacoin ''dev'' and wanted somehow to protect premine coins
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595287.0

this premine wallet with 3.2 billion coins is visible today well in Abe explorer for Asiacoin
http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=AC&top_addresses=100
actually with so much hacking of altcoins going on, one could not be sure that in future would not exist another hacked wallet allowing
for gradual reintroducing premine coins to Asiacoin

Better late than never to repair Asiacoin
actually thinking very seriously of arranging Asiacoin exchange to Asiacoin 2.0 with
-completely new codebase for Wallet, forked from 2016 coin sources
 much superior to 2013 Bitcoin source
-new blockchain without 3.2 billion premine
-possibly options to exclude stolen Asiacoins from Cryptsy

please to comment on this possibility of repairing Asiacoin by exchanging Asiacoin to Asiacoin 2.0

please to submit ideas links and contacts where to try for exchanges

moreover, after Cryptsy fall, there might be a try from bigger altcoins to kill as big number of smaller altcoins as possible
possibly by influencing exchanges not to accept

situation is really critical

good ideas needed



edit: to illustrate what havoc could make Cryptsy guys ( could not underestimate hacking by Cryptsy guys ) - just take example of this weekend : some strange activity, almost sure to be connected with Cryptsy hackers kills entire Bitcoin blockchain
Up until Jan 17 2016, daily BTC txn volume was around 1.2-1.7 million BTC per day. Now it suddently jumped to around 33-37 million BTC per day. A few minutes ago, block #394736 moved almost 6.5 million BTC. And block #394739 should move around 7 million BTC. What's going on??
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/42ean7/up_until_jan_17_2016_daily_btc_txn_volume_was/
https://blockchain.info/charts/output-volume
$2.5 Billion worth of Bitcoin transactions verified in block #394,736...Anyone able to explain what is going on?
https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/42e551/25_billion_worth_of_bitcoin_transactions_verified/
Cryptsy laundering over 10.000 stolen bitcoins -



edit:repost
some fresh idea to exclude stolen coins from cryptsy
placebo
Hero Member
Activity: 756
Posts: 11570
Hi All,
I would suggest that ALL coins would make a version 2. Why? Cryptsy is holding a lot of small coins, KARMA, LOT, MOON, LEAF, ....
maybe they have a supply of 80% of all the outstanding coins, so we should all make KARMA2, LOT2, MOON2, LEAF2,... type of coins and swap the coins that aren't on cryptsy.
This will mean Cryptsy wouldn't be able to dump their coins on other markets and make another few millions and it can give the current owners of those coins maybe some money back if they were able to withdraw at least a few coins...
Cryptsy is down, so who knows how much coins you have... the best idea would be that everybody could take a screenshot for their stake, but with a exchange down.... in fact i already suggested that weeks ago on the KARM and MOON thread to make a new coin because everybody knew that there were big problems with withdraws... There isn't any perfect solution... only that cryptsy is back and is 100% ôperational, then there is no need for doing this type of actions, but now... do you want to continue trading other coins when you know that Cryptsy will be able to dump their stake on Bittrex, C-CEX, and other exchanges...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1330315.new#new



BTER.COM continues Asiacoin trading, but since June 2015 nobody could withdraw
Bter does nor respond to tickets or emails since.
after opening WD ticket comes within few days only automated answer: example from November:
Dear Sir,
Sorry, I am afraid it may take a while before the ac wallet is fixed
The AC withdrawal was cancelled. Please try to withdraw later when the wallet is fixed.Otherwise it may be stuck there.
Bter.com likely does not have any Asiacoin wallet at all
all Asiacoin trade on BTER is a fiction
actually, we should warn potential new users of this crime
best solution for this moment - put a warning on each page
DO NOT TRADE ASIACOIN AT BTER
NOBODY COULD WITHDRAW SINCE JUNE 2015
BTER DOES NOT HAVE ASIACOIN AT ALL

thank you very much for info

earlier in this thread there were guesses:
1.BTER does not seem to have any Asiacoin wallet ( it should be wallet in the 1 million + range and which stopped moving May/July 2015
  and this wallet should have - as usual with exchanges - big number of inputs/outputs )
  no such wallet seen until now
  most likely Bter has ZERO Asiacoin
  as indicated before in this thread - Asiacoins were sold hoping for price fall somewhere May/June 2015
2.in chinese threads there are accusations that BTER scam is much bigger than paltry 7.000 ''stolen'' BTC ( what everybody knows )
as far as can understand this Chinese texts, real BTER scam amounts to over 32.000 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902927.0;all

of smaller coins:

resuming some internal transfers on Cryptsy related Asiacoin wallets

in blocks around 1% out of total marketcap transferred to somewhere

there were absolutely no transactions of such volumes last months nor pending wd of such sizes

similar transactions on Cryptsy related AC wallets ran starting from end of November

could be explained by running from creditors and deposit holders

BTW Asiacoin wd still blocked - even small

link

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ac/block.dws?941151.htm

Cryptsy's China clone is developing dynamically

already surpassed daily volume of 800 USD

http://bitebi9.com/


edit: Jan. 14 06:30 UTC

bitebi9 24h volume dropped to 9 USD


edit: Jan. 15 04:03 UTC
Trades and withdrawals will be suspended on the site undefinately until some sort of resolution can be made.
http://blog.cryptsy.com/



re: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595999.msg13479206#msg13479206
my wallet does not stake for more than 6 months: any chance to make it staking again? v2.2.1 and fully sync-unlocked!

actually - similar reports coming from other coins too !
BitcoinNational
NOBL wallet is nice and light, but staking seems impossible unless you're holding billions :/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402667.msg12323528#msg12323528

edit: Jan 15 23:05 UTC
major mainstream media reversal regarding Bitcoin : now all media promote hard dump

Why has Bitcoin failed - Mike Hearn

https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7#.406n35fcr

The fundamentals are broken and whatever happens to the price in the short term, the long term trend should probably be downwards. I will no longer be taking part in Bitcoin development and have sold all my coins.
the network is on the brink of technical collapse. The mechanisms that should have prevented this outcome have broken down, and as a result there’s no longer much reason to think Bitcoin can actually be better than the existing financial system.
If you had never heard about Bitcoin before, would you care about a payments network that:
Couldn’t move your existing money
Had wildly unpredictable fees that were high and rising fast
Allowed buyers to take back payments they’d made after walking out of shops, by simply pressing a button (if you aren’t aware of this “feature” that’s because Bitcoin was only just changed to allow it)
Is suffering large backlogs and flaky payments
… which is controlled by China
… and in which the companies and people building it were in open civil war?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/business/dealbook/the-bitcoin-believer-who-gave-up.html?_r=1

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40zq07/mike_hearn_i_will_no_longer_be_taking_part_in/?limit=500

http://www.econotimes.com/Bitcoin-Fails-Block-Chain-Full-And-Fundamentals-Broken-Mike-Hearn-143947

http://www.fastcompany.com/3055584/bitcoin-a-failed-experiment-says-departing-developer

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/9348-bitcoin-a-failed-experiment.html

http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2016/01/80264-bitcoin-has-failed-states-prominent-bitcoin-expert-mike-hearn/

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-technology-bitcoin-idUSKCN0UT2II

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-branded-a-failure-as-media-erupts-over-mike-hearns-contentious-exit/

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13426191/1/is-bitcoin-dead-tech-roundup.html

http://europe.newsweek.com/bitcoin-price-crashes-cryptocurrency-branded-failed-experiment-416267?rm=eu

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/lead-developer-quits-bitcoin-saying-211722416.html
Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it has failed - Yahoo Finance UK

http://fusion.net/story/255949/bitcoin-failed-says-mike-hearn/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/12101668/Bitcoin-has-failed-claims-one-of-its-top-developers.html

http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/bitcoin-core-devs-in-civil-war-insist-were-not-getting-the-whole-story?trk_source=recommended

http://fortune.com/2016/01/14/bitcoin-developer-quits/

http://www.businessinsider.de/bitcoin-has-failed-says-developer-mike-hearn-xt-censorship-2016-1?op=1?r=US&IR=T

http://thebitcoindata.com/bitcoin-declared-an-inescapable-failure-forbes/

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/15/mike-hearn-senior-bitcoin-developer-says-currency-failed-experiment


on Bitcointalk some traders predict soon Bitcoin below 200USD
ridery99:
Last chance to buy expensive
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1328913

and this thread gives detailed explanatons why BTC could fall hard:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1308006.0;all

also : major Bitcoin developer Luke-jr is not sure of Bitcoin survival beyond 2016 :
http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2016/01/11#l1452495331.0
(quote)
06:57    Luke-Jr   well, maybe Bitcoin won't survive 2016. we'll see I guess.
06:57    Luke-Jr   another possibility is that it becomes a China-only system

meanwhile, super-powerful RAND corporation three days ago wanted to kill Bitcoin fast:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40lwsq/the_rand_corporation_report_national_security/
Therefore, the RAND report suggests pre-emptive strikes and notes that “perhaps the best strategy for the United States and its allies to thwart a VC deployment would be to target those properties of a VC that would most increase its acceptance, most notably transaction anonymity, security, and availability.”
The report suggests that the U.S. Department of Defense should disrupt decentralized digital currencies to prevent “unprecedented global access to information and communication services that, at its core, is agnostic to the national security interests of the United States.”

by the way : Jan 15  23:15 UTC
Bitcoin now 375 and possibly in further freefall

edit: Jan 16, 23:57 UTC
Bitcoin price 363
retrospect:
Jackson Palmer  ( main developer of Dogecoin )
9:09 AM - 23 Apr 2015
@ummjackson That being said, I see no long-term future for #Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies at this point / with the community it has
https://twitter.com/ummjackson/status/591272772652830720
Dec 02, 2015
http://qz.com/563967/goldman-sachs-wants-to-create-its-own-version-of-bitcoin/
4 days ago:
https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40i6th/your_bitcoins_are_not_safe_there_are_hardware/
Your bitcoins are not safe - there are hardware backdoors on your PC
on this thread renowned developer
[–]luke-jr - Bitcoin Expert 2 points 3 days ago
Sadly true.
[–]nyeko_92 1 point 2 days ago
So what recommendations do you have to minimize the risk of someone stealing your coins besides(HD wallets, Paper wallets & storing your coins on a PC that has is offline)?
[–]luke-jr - Bitcoin Expert 0 points 2 days ago
Not much more to recommend, unfortunately
Nov 04, 2015
JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon_ Virtual Currency Will Be Stopped
http://fortune.com/2015/11/04/jamie-dimon-virtual-currency-bitcoin/
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151106/08022132734/jpmorgan-ceo-jamie-dimon-says-government-will-stop-bitcoin.shtml
http://cointelegraph.com/news/115556/jp-morgan-chase-ceo-jamie-dimon-bitcoin-is-going-to-be-stopped
https://letstalkbitcoin.com/jpmorgan-chase-building-bitcoin-killer/
Jan 11, 2016
The ugly truth_ Bitcoin is doomed and needs to be replaced _ ethereum
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/40in7i/the_ugly_truth_bitcoin_is_doomed_and_needs_to_be/

edit Jan 16, 08:44 UTC
BTC 355  , bounced from resistance at 346.01
my 2 satoshis:
Actually , after such all major media critic + labelling BTC as major threat to US national security by thinktank #1 RAND : no major company can buy BTC except direct BTC investing funds
no more Overstock BTC investing
no more significant BTC startups
no more payment integration


some fresh idea to exclude stolen coins from cryptsy
placebo
Hero Member
Activity: 756
Posts: 11570
Hi All,
I would suggest that ALL coins would make a version 2. Why? Cryptsy is holding a lot of small coins, KARMA, LOT, MOON, LEAF, ....
maybe they have a supply of 80% of all the outstanding coins, so we should all make KARMA2, LOT2, MOON2, LEAF2,... type of coins and swap the coins that aren't on cryptsy.
This will mean Cryptsy wouldn't be able to dump their coins on other markets and make another few millions and it can give the current owners of those coins maybe some money back if they were able to withdraw at least a few coins...
Cryptsy is down, so who knows how much coins you have... the best idea would be that everybody could take a screenshot for their stake, but with a exchange down.... in fact i already suggested that weeks ago on the KARM and MOON thread to make a new coin because everybody knew that there were big problems with withdraws... There isn't any perfect solution... only that cryptsy is back and is 100% ôperational, then there is no need for doing this type of actions, but now... do you want to continue trading other coins when you know that Cryptsy will be able to dump their stake on Bittrex, C-CEX, and other exchanges...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1330315.new#new

actually not clear if this idea would block stolen Asiacoin from cryptsy
explorer chainz.cryptoid.info/ac does not know which wallets are cryptsy



my opinion of BTC range in foreseeable future ( assuming no drastic changes in global economy )
putting my opinion to benefit readers, who already could profit 50% in 10 days by following exactly my tip two month ago
btc range : expect to be usd 225 to 680
quite safe strategy would be to buy under 300 and sell over 430
there is some risk of dramatic dumping by major players below 225 on some unknown major negative news - and percentagewise this risk of major negative news is difficult to estimate
in my opinion: no chance to go over 680 ( without major change of type of : weimar 1923 type hyperinflation or world economy crash much worse than 2008 )
recently even 450 or 500 faces massive dumping by big players
possibility of new pump over 450 till around 680 by major players ( in order to profit themselves and then to organize even bigger dump ) : this probability IMHO is over 30 %


edit: 22 Jan, 09:19 UTC
this time missed local BTC peak at 425 to 429 depending on exchange, so literally following my tip ( ''sell at 430 '') made no profit this time
of course, i could put my last tip which had been ''sell at 430'' more like this way ''sell 20% at 420 , and sell 20% more at any 3 usd increments above 420'' but then it will be quite technical and more like addressed to pro traders


edit: 22 Jan, 09:36 UTC
more on BTC price fundamentals : as everybody knows there are only two major enemy battling camps influencing BTC price
1.BTC pushing up faction : miners - mostly Chinese, capital support unknown: as described in old article: ''
The 21 companies that control bitcoin
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-pools-miners-ranked-2015-7?r=US&IR=T
2.BTC dumping faction : major financial powers, as described in this post above : want  to control BTC price downwards or ban outright

Asiacoin withdrawals at Cryptsy blocked persistently since Jan 8

on this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.new#new

there are speculations that:

1.some kind of court order blocked cold wallets

2.in the case of Cryptsy bankruptcy, depositors funds ( coins ) will be taken by creditors

3.wallet manager Mullick disappeared over two months ago, and over 80 wallets are in maintenance


Cryptsy support replies with one single formula :


Currently we are experiencing problems with our withdrawal system.
If you place a withdrawal for BTC LTC DASH BTCD and a few other coins, you may experience delays.

You will receive notice once we have resolved this problem

If you would like to cancel a withdrawal, please create a "new" ticket and choose "Cancel Withdrawal"
from the ticket type.

We appreciate your patience while we resolve these issues.


Sincerely,
Cryptsy Customer Service



on Cryptsy chat

https://www.cryptsy.com/users/chat

there are recurring questions of this type:

LukeRocksALot26750
coins that cryptsy users can withdraw?

there is official answer that only less than 10% of coins are moving :

JShock ♔
@LukeRocksALot26750:  NET, HYP, DGC, ETH, 42, HAM, UNB, TRC, TURB, MINT, SPRT, Start, HTML, UNO, AXIOM, SXC, BLU, POP, MTR, TRK, MAPC, DOGED, NTRN, CANN, EXCL, NXT, ORB, FTC, CON , NMC, SHND, XST  - all should be working for faster withdrawal



recent chat posts: supposedly users having 2FA are getting SMS of this type:

Nukefxr
Did any one else just get an SMS message from cryptsy?

freedomsr40985
@Nukefxr:i did

jbdigital008433
just got sms saying cryptsy is closed

freedomsr40985
it gives a link for a refund

barilan884
i just got an sms msg saying : cryptsy is closed http://cryptsy-refund.com/

jbdigital008433
its from the same number that send my sms auth codes

SpunkyTehWeenerDoge
IT IS FROM THE SAME NUMBER THEY SEND THEIR 2FA TEXTS FROM>  THIS IS REAL

homelessRVlife
Hi, Cryptsy ceases its activities in the wake of the theft of most of Bitcoins from the COLD storage. You can start a refund procedure at the link: https://cryptsy-refund.com/ Please accept our apologies. Cryptsy

martian589
yea its coming from the auth sms number exact same one

Convert277
I got mail about cryptsy closing, it is legit?

Orland007328
I got an email from support too

SpunkyTehWeenerDoge
@Lurker:  I know, but the link was in the email.  They are just posting the entire message of what they received in the email.  I got one on sms

ravioliren11726
@NerdLifeLabs:yeah i got the same email too. From support.

official admin reply : that means : Cryptsy SMS and support email system had been hacked ( and what other systems hacked ? )

Horus ♔
people are reporting getting a text from our sms number.

Zrc1M
strange it comes from support@cryptsy.com

cryptocoin420752
Cryptsy is closedIn the wake of the server breach and theft of most of cryptocurrency from the COLD storage, we have to shut down our exchange. Our customers will be refunded within 3 months.Please accept our apologies

Terrik
@cryptocoin420752:do not click on that, it's a phishing link

dandavis655
From: support@cryptsy.comSubject: Cryptsy is closedHi, Cryptsy ceases its activities in the wake of the theft of most of Bitcoins from the COLD storage. You can start a refund procedure at the link: https://cryptsy-refund.com/ Please accept our apologies. Cryptsy

tgvdz377
scam email more than 10 minutes now and still no mention on the cryptsy twitter feed

tgvdz377
no mention on cryptsy blog or front page either

JimBlasko
@JShock: @BigVern: @Horus: Lock Down All Withdrawals! NOW!

Mattalic827
If I didn't think 80% of the people on this chat were uncontrollable goons, I would rally for a class action lawsuit for breach of privacy.

admin reply:

JShock ♔
WITHDRAWALS PAUSED

cryptocoin420752
and we are all screwed out of our coins

Mattalic827
Listen, I know legal. Please give me the contact information for the Cryptsy Legal Team. Cryptsy was already sued in Oct. of 2014 for breach of customer accounts and faulty security measures

admin reply:

NerdLifeLabs
Hey Everyone WD have been paused for security Reasons If you have received an email or SMS stating to put your login information into receive a refund do not click it . if you already have please change your login password asap If you have 2fa your password does not matter as much but ifyou have filled out the link it’s a good idea to change yourpassword anyway

admin reply:

JShock ♔
NOTICE, UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO DETERMINE EXTENT OF ATTACK, ALL WITHDRAWALS AND MARKETS ARE PAUSED

only now on front page cryptsy.com - delay more than 35 minutes - lot of personal data phished already :

Important System Notification
NOTICE: UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO DETERMINE EXTENT OF ATTACK, ALL WITHDRAWALS AND MARKETS ARE PAUSED


more recent chat posts:

Razmear
"WDs paused for Security Reasons", they been 'paused' since way before this scam.

Mattalic827
Anyone that has gone to Tier 2 with a government issued ID... I have so much empathy for you.

optikalsaint
I received a SMS message from the same SMS number that sends Cryptsy two factor authentication, so it's not a phishing attempt

2thumbs434
the website looks clean of malware. it _does_ load javascript from Zopim for "Live Chat" that i havent seems suspicious, but i dont see anyting directly bad in there. So at least just visiting the sit should be reasonably safe. Also, virustotal reports it as clean as well.

5 minutes ago on twitter
https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/687125569159467008

Asiacoin exchanges status

Cryptsy.com : withdrawals blocked for now.
Cryptsy has for sure huge number of Asiacoin on their wallets.
Not clear when withdrawals will be open again
quite possible that client's Asiacoin will be MINTPALED
on this thread below it is documented, that almost all coin withdrawals are stopped on Cryptsy including BTC
some days ago dogecoin withdrawals worked and dogecoin price on Cryptsy was 30% higher
now dogecoin is possibly stuck too
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.new#new
and cryptsy.com is thrown out from coinmarketcap.com 59 hours ago
http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/cryptsy/
not updated since 59 hours and cryptsy ''volumes'' are not counted anymore

bter.com : withdrawals blocked since June 2015
most likely BTER does not have any Asiacoin on their wallets
asiacoins listed on BTER possibly would be never bought back by BTER

cryptopia.co.nz - Asiacoin withdrawals open



EDIT : Jan 9, 22:27 UTC: possibly withdraws working for some for DOGE and ETH ;
                                   it's why prices pf DOGE and ETH skyrocketed on Cryptsy
                                   Asiacoin withdraw impossible
+ some weird links possibly pointing to winding up operations, not sure if these links are correct
even 3 days ago would not believe in such an outcome:
http://bitcoinnewschannel.com/2016/01/09/paul-vern-cryptsys-ceo-seems-to-have-flown-to-china/
http://bitcoinist.net/cryptsy-has-moved-out-of-their-building-unannounced-nowhere-to-be-found/
+ over 80 wallets in maintenance mode : https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2Ff016c4.png&t=560&c=gwExVtN8m-OBMg
and wallet manager Mullick disappeared months ago : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99433  : Last Active: November 14, 2015, 12:34:24 AM


EDIT : Jan 10, 13:04 UTC
  Asiacoin withdraw (continuously) impossible from Cryptsy - hangs as ''pending''
  not sure about DOGE and ETH ( nothing on Cryptsy chat )

 some recent entries in Crypsy chat :

Coindigger374: Why is it a problem to withdraw BTC?
 bormann177: For that you have stopped WD? Minimum you need to let people work! Certainly not all, but minimum, YES !!
 maliperica2014362: i am waiting for my transferred coins more than a month and no one eaven bothered to hel me
  (posts regarding BTC withdrawal below)
  lemyke523: @homelessRVlife:0.01 dont works, only 0.001 with 0.0013 of fee works
lemyke523: @jvm99:u right, 25% it's if u r very patient
 robertolist190: wich coin is convenient WD without loosing 50%?
 some withdraw chances posted below
MrMinerVa: NET, HYP, DGC, ETH, 42, HAM, UNB, TRC, TURB, SPRT, DMD, Start, HTML, UNO, AXIOM, MAPC, DOGED, NXT, ORB, FTC, CON , NMC, all should be working for fast withdrawal per CryptsyBanHammer 08:30 US EST
 DOGE stuck too:
meoariyan1245: Dogecoin DFgPxjiz2JX2Kbqov6i7vrwpm19BiQ3NNn 153484.29166667 DOGE Yes 2016-01-09 11:34:17 Pending
NerdLifeLabs: 1-11-16 SXC, HTML5,  NET, HYP, SPRT, (DOGE Very Slow), DOGED, *BLU, ORD, POP, SYNC, 42, MTR, TRK, SHND,,  Have been (Reported) today to be working for withdrawal NEW To LIST…. !BITB!
NerdLifeLabs: 1-11-16DMD, BITB, SXC, HTML5, NET,HYP, SPRT, (DOGE Very Slow),DOGED, *BLU, ORD, POP, SYNC, 42, MTR, TRK, SHND, ,  Have been(Reported) today to be working for withdrawal NEW To LIST…. !MNC!
angrysnapper: yep only wd's workign when new deposits come in because these two are fighting over the money and kids in court
angrysnapper: Now if this is what's going on, then why hasn't Paul said anything?
angrysnapper: Why hasn't he made a statement to his customers?

rahavahetaja543: has anyone got answer from Cryptsy support in recent days?
rahavahetaja543: any answer at all?


some fresh threads
Has anyone withdrawn Bitcoin from Cryptsy for the past 48 hours?  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1320754.0
The Exchange cryptsy dies?  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1320688.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40at9s/bitcoin_price_rises_just_before_an_exchange_goes/
quote:''End of Cryptsy basically mean, the End of 500 Other SHitCoin/PumpCoin''
 I withdrew my BTC and LTC this morning. Still no sign of transfer to my wallet over 16 hours later.
https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/40706a/recommending_that_you_remove_all_coins_from/
I know who has your coins at Crytpsy... (Update)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317425.0;all
https://m.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4050h3/cryptsy_has_moved_out_of_their_building/
  from this thread - someone's story on Cryptsy
Alstroph
23h•15
Big fucking surprise. I purchased some cryptocurrency on Cryptsy, from here on out we will refer to it as XCoin.
XCoin was about 70% lower on Cryptsy when compared to other exchanges, so I purchased about $200 dollars worth. I then tried transferring about $1 worth out of my Cryptsy wallet into the main XCoin wallet. Never came, through some research I found out that XCoin had recently forked and Cryptsy had failed to update.
I bugged Cryptsy, eventually one of the admins told me that they did not know how to contact the XCoin devs. No problem, I knew how to do that. I put the two in contact with each other. Through this process I also landed a position working for XCoin.
I spent the next 2 months TIRELESSLY working with Cryptsy and XCoin to help exchange old coins for new coins. Near the end of this process we discovered that Cryptsy was under-allocated by about $10,000, meaning Cryptsy owed it's users $20,000 but they only had $10,000 worth of valid coins.
What happened? After pulling their fucking teeth out I was able to get Cryptsy to agree to the exchange HOURS before the deadline. Let's note that I was in the middle of this transaction and could have intercepted it with ease, but I trusted Cryptsy at this time.
So after the transaction what happens? Nothing. They pocketed the $10k, left the old worthless version of XCoin to die on the market. The Cryptsy users were screwed out of $20k while Cryptsy was $10k richer. They took no responsibility and blamed XCoin for the problems.
Not to mention I lost $200 and 2 months of time dealing with their bullshit. Fuck Cryptsy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptsy/comments/3zdg35/mining_contracts_have_not_paid_out_since_the_9th/
Cryptsy has officially been removed from Coinmarketcap. This is the end. (self.Bitcoin)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40c69y/cryptsy_has_officially_been_removed_from/
divorce case : possibly a tough one
3RD PARTY DEFENDANT CRYPTSY INTERNATIONAL LTD
3RD PARTY DEFENDANT PROJECT INVESTORS INC
quote:
Quote from: ScottyMcAuld on January 10, 2016, 10:45:48 PM
You turd burglars have been claiming scam for days, it comes to two people getting divorced fucks 300k people up for Christmas. Lawyers and attorneys allowed client funds to get arrested and you monkeys waisted your time trolling everyone else. wakey wakey ladies....in scooby doo fashion the lawyer done it....ha ha you pair are turd filled sacks
 http://courtcon.co.palm-beach.fl.us/pls/jiwp/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=502015DR009881XXXXSB&begin_date=&end_date=
angrysnapper: I see the sanctions on Dec 17 for not complying with file disclosure amazing
68    MFC - MOTION FOR CONTEMPT      
Filing Date:   17-DEC-2015
Filing Party:   NETTLES, LORIE ANN
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text:    AND SANCTIONS FOR HUSBAND'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH AGREED ORDER FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO FILE MANDATORY DISCLOSURE, FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT AND RESPONSES TO CORPORATE REQUEST TO PRODUCE F/B PET

ZooTaLLures: @thunderjet:yeah.....but isn't the corporation sheilded from the personal assets?
SyslinkDigital504: Not Wiht A LLC

http://www.myfloridalaw.com/divorce/how-long-does-a-divorce-take-in-florida/
quote:First Half of Case – 3 to 12 months


http://nypost.com/2005/03/13/21-years-war-longest-divorce-in-state-history/
It has raged for more than 21 years and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, but now New York’s “War of the Roses” – the state’s longest and most bitter divorce action – is lurching to an end.
 Nicholas Purpura, 62, a former partner at Wall Street powerhouse Bear Stearns, and his ex-wife Barbara have been slugging it out since 1983 in a fight over assets that has spawned thousands of hours of courtroom testimony.

example of cryptsy.com markets today
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/SWIFT_BTC
0.00150000   +2667.53%
24hr Volume: 46.85 BTC
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitswift/#markets
0.00029001 BTC  (+527.44 %)
24hr Volume: 0.57 BTC

this is very strange situation
there is one really important question - without this answer is impossible to seek any solutions
the question is : which quantity of coins shows in your wallet Asiacoin explorer:  chainz.cryptoid.info/ac

description of problem too vague

could be for instance
1.firewall blocks Asiacoin ( this is most likely )
2.internet connection or router port forwarding blocked
   ( this is unlikely as Asiacoin should work OK even with port 35656 blocked by a internet provider - unlike Bitcoin core and some other bitcoin wallets having big problems when 8333 port is blocked
   or not forwarded properly )

more details needed ( firewall type, internet connection type, router type and so on )

as far as i know, nearly all altcoins have unlimited quantity including Ethereum
i am watching this subject what other coins are doing , but see nothing decisive
good example is 42 coin which was supposed to have 42.00 coins only
now it is as far as i know 52 coins already and growing every day  http://42.blockexp.info/
nearly all altcoins have wrong codes as to limit max quantity
for instance :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.msg12120004#msg12120004
mullick ( wallet manager from Cryptsy ) says this time in DMD thread (50% POS)

The following line is commonly mistaken as restricting the total supply. Which it does not.

https://github.com/DMDcoin/Diamond/blob/master/src/main.h#L38

As you can see by the following results its only a sanity check used for transactions. You cant create a single transaction greater than that size.

https://github.com/DMDcoin/Diamond/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=MAX_MONEY

Unless the following line which appears to be unique to dmd restricts it

https://github.com/DMDcoin/Diamond/blob/master/src/main.h#L39

But I dont see that referenced anywhere else in the codebase.

The pos reward allows for endless creation unless otherwise limited

do not know how serious and real is limitation on BTC and LTC ( must ask a dev )

actually, for Asiacoin if someone starts normal Abe Explorer it is still visible a wallet with 3.2 billion coins :
http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=AC&top_addresses=100
shows nice wallet AKPy5ugy98yBkBCNU9Ne1bHExy5tqdq9Gu having 3209869924.73000002 Asiacoins
and exactly same wallet shows when someone starts himself Abe Explorer

having this in consideration, i would say changing Asiacoin code to stop POS at current Asiacoin supply would be very counterproductive
every (potential ) serious investor in Asiacoin would start Abe Explorer first ( 15 minutes for a programmer on Linux ) and see this wallet

source code is at https://github.com/AsiaCoin/AsiaCoinFix

as indicated also on  https://www.cryptsy.com/currencies/view/AC

this source corresponds exactly to wallet version 2.2.1 being used

assemblies as http://sourceforge.net/projects/asiacoin/files/

Asiacoin network is from time to time under some strange attack, and Asiacoin blockchain behavior is not easy to understand

some weeks ago Asiacoin blocks within 24 hours were found not each roughly 60 seconds but each 110 second all 24  hours

and same day difficulty sunk to absurd low 0.0002

this can be seen on explorer under ''overview'' as soon as it is back online

our developers at this moment cannot explain what kind of hack it was at this day

recently Peercoin was attacked by hackers and PPC blockchain crashed

https://www.reddit.com/r/peercoin/comments/3s714c/attention_peercoins_blockchain_has_forked_because/
https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4312.0;all
https://github.com/ppcoin/ppcoin/issues/100
https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3s8opf/peercoin_blockchain_has_forked_due_to_a_bug/
https://np.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/3sah6g/peercoin_forked_due_to_a_vulnerability_that_more/
https://github.com/rat4/blackcoin/commit/1adbbfc9c36e2d1d705c0840a55f20666012149a
https://www.reddit.com/r/peercoin/comments/3s714c/attention_peercoins_blockchain_has_forked_because/
https://np.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3snr8s/sfyl_peerbutt_splits_markets_frozen/
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009697.html

as to wallet - with nearly 100% certainty Cryptsy uses newest wallet - more precisely - compiling own client from latest source

reasons for Asiacoin delays hard to understand for now
1.possibly defending against some hacks by delaying transfer. In such a case transfers should arrive in some hours/days
2.also quite possible Cryptsy 2.0 new platform is crashing and transfers must be doublechecked by hand ( tough )
3.also theoretically possible that Cryptsy is delaying withdraws because doing some staking - explorer shows over 3.000 wallets as Cryptsy - for sure Cryptsy
has more wallets than this number
these officially known 3.000 wallets are not staking but some unknown wallets possibly could stake
in such a case - delays could be little longer
4.another possible explanation - by disrupting altcoin flow Cryptsy wants to crash altcoin prices. if successful then Cryptsy can make some more profit in arbitraging

whatever reason, Cryptsy is a headache

actually wondering why nobody uses cryptopia exchange

decent non-anonymous exchange from well regulated country

their software is less advanced but very stable

never seen any complaints on cryptopia

cryptsy looks a bit weird now

there is a lot of talk as for instance

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.600

and

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1241770.0;all

some user says there : ''Even if they are solvent and work back from this, they wont last, damage is done... No fee trading.... pffft bye bye''

and

''Seems like crypsty 's stock has plummeted in the last few days. It was trading for .035btc in September and now is trading for .006btc. ouch''

Cryptsy stocks: https://cryptostocks.com/securities/57

edit: Nov, 13 more links

more complaints : I have 1,3 btc pending withdrawal from 4 days and BTCD which is impossible to withdraw since more then 2 months
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg12963420#msg12963420

speculation that Cryptsy was sold in 2014 to Russians
BTC-E has taken over Cryptsy ?
June 27, 2014, 08:35:28 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668334.0
this post was never commented by anybody either way
very strange

wallet fixed - most likely only when Asiacoin will be at around 100 or so
( at which price exactly BTER blocking started ? 120 ? 130 ?)
this seems to be the levels BTER sold client's Asiacoins hoping for price fall

my opinion of Bitcoin rally

1.rally stops at around 410 levels

2.around a month stays at 400+

3.then slips to 340-350 levels

4.then begins short selling pattern similar as 2014 : lower lows

some reasoning : looking at alexa

bitcointalk slips down http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org

bitcoin.org stabilized http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcoin.org

mmmglobal.org this mega-scam must finish some day http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mmmglobal.org
( offering 100% monthly bitcoin ponzi on a global scale, 20.000 to 40.000 youtube videos )
and after imminent mmmglobal crash BTC image would be burned heavily worldwide
many working class families in India South Africa and elsewhere would remember losing family money on BTC
a clever trick of BTC enemies at New York, Washington DC, Basel and elsewhere - use MMM

edit: after yesterday's dump from 459.2 top to 377 within three hours nobody believes anymore in Bitcoin rally?

started to figure out ( even difficult to imagine today ) that for pump and dump team even better dump will be from 600-650 levels

difficult to imagine today, but theoretically it is possible for pumpers to somehow pump till 600+ within weeks/months

edit : Nov 07, 03:31 UTC : anybody who possibly followed my tip would make an easy 50% to his money in a few days ( without leverages )
-buy at my post at 320 levels
-close at any 410 levels and reverse ( short )
my timing and levels were not 100% exact, but easy 50% profit was possible - easy - by literally following my tip

bitcoin devs disclosed a vulnerability in October

https://bitcoin.org/en/alert/2015-10-12-upnp-vulnerability

solutions provided:

Either

turn off the checkbox in the GUI under Options → Network → Map port using UPNP

or

add the line upnp=0 to your bitcoin.conf file (asiacoin.conf)

or

add -upnp=0 to the command line options

it is advisable to disable upnp