I would think scam was exposed on time.
But now the questions is how long will it take to take the dice site down...
What scam?? Stunna says it's a scam so scam it is, what kind of BS this is? |
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All this is total bullshit, you should not blindly believe every word that comes out of Stunna's mouth He is known for trashing every other dice site except JD so his actions do not surprise me. |
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that explains the reason why there is no chat room. I had the feeling something fishy was going on
Chat will be added next week, still testing it as it was not priority |
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The game, the way it is described, is not provably fair for investors, as well as for players. I'll leave this post here and let you guys try to figure out why. (And if my post gets deleted, I will start a new thread.) It will have provable results, which is not the same.
*edit* Okay, someone else beat me to it. Exactly as a previous poster has described. The other way is to pause the game for everyone else just 1 second (or a time they can't notice) and calculate the desired bet ID needed for the win, then resume, grab that winning bet, and continue as if nothing happened.
It can be programmed in the server to do this transparently, and if no winning bet is found within 0.01 seconds, you can just skip it and try again later, attribute it to variances in lag.
Therefore, my statement is that it is not provably fair for investors, and it is also not provably fair for players. You might as well make it at least provably fair for players, and let investors take the chance that the site operators will not cheat.
Like the other guy said, I am not accusing anyone of anything, just that the way this is implemented is not provably fair for everyone.
I have a feeling they are ripping off players. Currently when you bet, your bet number will be about 160 above the one that is currenly shown on the page. Then, take a look at the all bets tab, some bets are shown to be at the same time but over 10 difference in bet ID, while no bets are shown between them. True, primedice also does not send out all bets, but come on, this is a new page, I doubt they are getting such volume. I think the site is scamming player, take care. Then you should look at primedice as the same thing happens there...it's impossible to synchronize everythign to fit so perfectly when you get over 10 bets/second |
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Is there a limit to the number of members you are looking to accept? This might not be much of a problem since you only accept Senior Members and up, but it may be a good idea to define that as soon as possible. Also, instead of upfront payment to select users, wouldn't it be better to use escrow? Not only are some willing to do this job for free, but it offers much better assurance to both parties.
Limit will probably be 50 people Almost anyone will get upfront payment so I don't think thee is a need for escrow. Someone contacted me for upfront payment of 0.05 for 50 posts and he does barely 4-5 posts a month, those type of accounts will be declined on upfront payment. |
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Only 100 posts allowed?! For 50 a month seniors can get 0.1. The limits as much too low.
Why only 100, well everything above 100 is in most cases spam and we don't want that here on forum. There are users that really post over 300-400 quality posts each month but they are very rare. I will consider raising price in case this campaign get's more players/investors to OneDice. |
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Did you put specially minimum bet ammount 10 satoshis or it's another bug?
Yes, it is set to 10 satoshi, not a bug. |
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This is how you win with your own client seed:
Create any client seed. Whenever a bet id comes up that would give a win for that client seed, grab it for yourself. The regular player who should have gotten this particular bet id gets the next one, and he is just as happy with this number instead. There is no way to tell from the outside what just happened.
Surely you can see this?
And no, you would not be playing against yourselves as well. For one simple reason: you get the money and the other investors don't.
Please note that I'm not accusing you of doing this! Every other gambling site out there could do the exact same thing. I just want you to not make false claims.
Me and my partners had the best intentions when thinking about this system. And I feel bad now when reading these posts. I guess it's possible to do what you said but if we wanted to do this then we would just implement system that other sites use as it would be easier to abuse it then. |
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But my other issue is with the statement "there is not way for the site operators to play against investors because of the way bet numbers are calculated". I don't believe that this is possible to achieve, but if you have done that I would like to know how.
Simple, disable betting for all other users and win each and every roll. It'll be very easy to notice though and probably has been tested in the beta phases Yes, that would work for sure I agree but how it would look like, what's the point of doing it. If we were planning to cheat investors then we would just use same method others use, then you can do this as much as you like without anyone noticing. |
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Let me explain what I mean. If the total bankroll is 5 BTC, the risk is huge because one player could wipe you out in just one roll. On the other hand, if the bankroll is 50 000 the risk is small. It all depends on the relation between the max payout and the total bankroll. So my question is what number is that? Is it 0.5%? 1%? I hope it is not 5% or something ridiculous like that... But my other issue is with the statement "there is not way for the site operators to play against investors because of the way bet numbers are calculated". I don't believe that this is possible to achieve, but if you have done that I would like to know how. Edit: I just noticed that I missed this We can't know outcome of any bets due to fact that BET ID is used to calculated each roll, in theory this would be only possible if we were only player playing on the site at that particular moment. This is not true I'm afraid. You control both betid and server seed. You can just increment a player's betid whenever you want and jump in between. For the sake of this discussion let's say bankroll really is 5 BTC, then what, one player comes, wins single 5 BTC bet, if you were investor that invested 100BTC you would lost exactly 0.005 from your investment and that's it. No more betting as bankroll is empty. Not sure I understand the part with playing against investors, not sure how we could just jump in. But anyways we would be playing against ourselves in major part even if cheating was possible somehow. |
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I also cannot find anywhere the size of the bankroll nor what the maximum payout is.
I don't think the bankroll size is listed, but the current max win is 5 btc (you can find that in the FAQ page). Thanks. From an investor perspective it is rather important to know what percentage of the bankroll that is. It is strange that this information is hidden. If we assume that it is 0.5% as it is on competitor sites, the bankroll must be around 1000BTC right now. Now, investing seems not very attractive anyway, since 1 BTC only buys you 0.01% of the profits, i.e. you invest 0.1% of the money but receive only 0.01% of the profits. Weird. Things don't have to be like on competitors site's. There is no rule how invest site should operate. All info you need to know is at how much is your risk investing in this and it whey less then on competitor sites. Anyway any serious investor can contact me privately and I'll explain all in detail. But I believe all the info you need is on the site. That's just it. You don't know the risk if you don't know how big the max payout is in relation to the bankroll.  Strange also that you ignored my other comment. From FAQ Keep in mind that OneDice is investor provably fair site and that there is not way for the site operators to play against investors because of the way bet numbers are calculated. Max bet is also a small % of total bankroll that insures your investment from lucky whales. I don't believe this is true. Can you explain? Well? I lost you, what part do you want me to explain? Here is why bankroll size should not concern you - max payout is 5BTC as stated in FAQ. When investing you will buy shares 0.1 BTC for 0.001%. Let me present 2 scenarios here with 2 different imagined bankroll sizes 1. bankroll is 20,000 BTC you bought 100 shares (0.1 BTC each) and you own 0.1% of site's profit/losses 2. bankroll is 1,000 BTC you bought 100 shares (0.1 BTC each) and you own 0.1% of site's profit/losses If someone wins or losses 100 BTC in both scenarios you will earn or loose 0.1% of those 100BTC (0.1 BTC) We can't know outcome of any bets due to fact that BET ID is used to calculated each roll, in theory this would be only possible if we were only player playing on the site at that particular moment. |
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when i press "bet now"
it won't rolling
then
the bet button says "rolling left 1"
Am i doing something wrong here ??
I'm wondering the same exact thing xD I feel retarded I can't get it to roll... Try now, there was small bug that caused this in some browsers. |
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I also cannot find anywhere the size of the bankroll nor what the maximum payout is.
I don't think the bankroll size is listed, but the current max win is 5 btc (you can find that in the FAQ page). Thanks. From an investor perspective it is rather important to know what percentage of the bankroll that is. It is strange that this information is hidden. If we assume that it is 0.5% as it is on competitor sites, the bankroll must be around 1000BTC right now. Now, investing seems not very attractive anyway, since 1 BTC only buys you 0.01% of the profits, i.e. you invest 0.1% of the money but receive only 0.01% of the profits. Weird. Things don't have to be like on competitors site's. There is no rule how invest site should operate. All info you need to know is at how much is your risk investing in this and it whey less then on competitor sites. Anyway any serious investor can contact me privately and I'll explain all in detail. But I believe all the info you need is on the site. |
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played, won 4btc, having trouble cashing out..
seems scammy, hope i see my btc...
What trouble exactly? I see you cashed out 10 times already and all those transactions have over few confirmations when i try to withdraw now, the withdrawal dialog closes and nothing happens....... (balance is left the same). i tried to withdraw 0.01 and it worked, anything larger does not work. Check your wallet, some withdrawals are manual, you should have waited for them instead you have invested this money into the site so we couldn't send it to you. |
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played, won 4btc, having trouble cashing out..
seems scammy, hope i see my btc...
What trouble exactly? I see you cashed out 10 times already and all those transactions have over few confirmations |
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is there a chatroom? I cant find it in the site.
Not yet, still optimizing it |
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When trying to claim the free 5000 satoshi, if I press my enter key after typing the captcha, it will bring me to the https://www.onedice.me/404 "Oops, sorry" page. Is this the intended result? this is fixed |
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Site was tested 24/7 for the past week, total 35 forum members were privately invited to test before this announce. All known bugs were fixed, but this is no guarantee players won't find new ones.
If you find any bugs please report them to me here or send support email.
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