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21  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa yang terjadi jika identitasmu dicuri -- kisah nyata || Hindari CEX! on: May 10, 2024, 09:45:50 PM
Tentu tidak, saya benci menggunakan cex, kalaupun saya menggunakannya hanya dalam waktu yg cepat yaitu saat mencoba menukarkan uang saya ke Rupiah melalui cex, misal saya hanya menggunakan Indodax saat ingin menukar dan menarik aset saya menjadi rupiah ke dalam rekening bank.
Benci tapi kok masih menggunakannya?, aneh, kalau benci ya selamanya tidak pakai walau pun itu instan.

Lagian kalau tanpa CEX apa lagi itu di Indonesia, tidak ada yang dapat sampeyan lakukan untuk nukar crypto, karena belum tentu P2P di luar sono itu terpercaya, dan saya lihat pemerintah juga mulai ngepush (Layanan P2P) mereka untuk segera melakukan KYC ke kostumer mereka jika mau lanjut usaha di Indonesia.
Mungkin maksudnya dia tidak memiliki pilihan lain maka dengan "terpaksa" menggunakan layanan exchange lokal serta dia harus sudah melakukan verifikasi KYC untuk dapat mengajukan penarikan, sebenarnya kita tidak perlu memperbandingkan kasus pencurian KYC dengan platform lainnya karena masing-masing platform memiliki tingkat keamanan yang berbeda tergantung developer yang menjaga server pada exchange itu, tapi sejauh ini tidak ada kasus yang di laporkan dari kerugian menggunakan KYC pda exchange lokal di Indonesia, namun patikan kamu lebih selektif memiih exchange yang sudah bereputasi supaya terjamin dari kasus pencurian data di exgange      
22  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: May 10, 2024, 08:13:29 PM
Untuk pemasaran exchange apa lagi di indonesia ini tentu tidak mudah, karena banyak saingan exchage besar senior seperti Indodax, dan exchange besar (yang dibekingi binance) seperti tokocrypto. Kalau awamnya sih tentu trader akan memilih exchange yang lebih terpercaya dibanding exchange baru (yang performa Sahamnya saja rugi 90 triliun), Investor dan trader tentu memilih exchange yang sehat supaya crypto mereka aman
Umumnya trader akan memilih dari kedua exchange lokal di antara Tokocrypto atau Indodax karena kedua exchange itu sudah berlegalitas dan exchange indonesia dengan pengguna terbanyak, saya sebenarnya baru mengetahui adanya exchange lokal lain yang bernama Maksima koin dan ternyata daftar exchange lokal sangat banyak seperti pada daftar postingan agan @Ahli38 diatas. Prioritas utama trader akan memilih exchange sudah mendapatkan reputasi dari feedback trader/investor dan keamanan aset sudah terjamin karena exchange sudah berlegalitas termasuk dalam pemantauan dan pengawasan pihak Bappebti, tapi informasi berita diatas tentang saham GoTo yang mengalami kerugian 90 triliun akan membuat banyak pertimbangan untuk memilih exchange mereka karena kekhawatiran akan mengalami kasus kerugian yang sama pada exchange tersebut.
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: Road to 100k? on: May 06, 2024, 06:12:55 PM
To be successful in investing, you need to have a long-term plan as well as a guaranteed source of income and a proper combination of plans because your capital is very valuable to you. The purpose of having an alternate source of income is to not have to disrupt your investment in the event of an emergency or health emergency, or to sell investment capital before reaching investment goals. Investment experts recommend keeping your emergency fund in cash for 3-6 months. You can keep your BTC holding safe and DCA method running consistently as a result. You definitely want to protect your margin.
Of course, we must have the right strategy in managing funds and managing assets by utilizing various plans that have the potential to grow the value of assets from bitcoin investment, the perfect combination of maximum financial management, having emergency savings in cash and having potential assets for long-term profits in bitcoin, gold and property.

You don't have to have alternative income to support funds to increase investment because not everyone is lucky to get another job for alternative income, but focus on utilizing current income to divide part for emergency savings and part of other funds for DCA investment in bitcoin assets.
24  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: May 06, 2024, 05:55:44 PM
Having self-control is a big deal, at least you have an idea what are the consequences of too much excessive playing in gambling. People who have a lot of money are the one who enjoy gambling because they can freely bet until when they like because they know there's good money circulation on their part, but to those who have a limited amount of course there's a limited bets only that every drop of the money you have is how much you get afraid to lose. I don't even have luck with the last drop money most of the time I let it go and make one last bet but in terms of a comeback game with that money I haven't yet.
Self-control is the main priority in gambling activities to control emotions to avoid the potential for higher losses, self-control is not always tied to the level of budget limits that gamblers have because it is useless for some gamblers to have a lot of money but they experience high losses due to not gambling responsibly, even though Gambling is claimed to be just a game based on luck but the fact is that some gamblers gamble using good strategy and good self-control, they will not experience high losses and they have the skills to win on certain bets, especially on soccer bets and also slots. So don't force yourself to gamble using your last drop of money if you are not sure of winning, but use the money to make a deposit for the next gambling so that you gamble with fresh self-control and are not disturbed by thoughts of previous gambling losses.
25  Economy / Economics / Re: Your aging and retirement plan is your responsibility. on: May 06, 2024, 05:35:35 PM
Every man should plan for his living according to what he can afford or what income he has. If one's present normal life is being conducted very smoothly and nicely through his income, he should focus on saving or investing while thinking about the future. Since there is a stark difference between the past and the present days, and the investment sector is also different, Cryptocurrency or Bitcoin is a prominent investment field in the present days.
Whatever our current economic conditions, we must prepare savings based on the level of income from each job and we must have a strong determination to get out of the safe zone for the purpose of increasing income from other activities. The presence of cryptocurrency has changed many economic lives for the better from investment income, trading and airdrop activities, and others. So upgrade your knowledge to work hard at this age on cryptocurrency activities that are useful for increasing savings for old age, and all crypto income achievements must be invested in bitcoin based on the respective strategy for investing for retirees in old age.
26  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Use your winning responsibly on: May 06, 2024, 05:24:37 PM
Good job OP. Indeed, we need to use our winnings responsibly. Rather than spending it all betting again, it is best to take a part of it and buy something as a reward. I have experienced some winnings since I started betting but I can only remember one when I bought something out of a winning. I bought a Levi's jeans but only because I forgot to bring my pants when I traveled to attend a wedding. Cheesy By reading this thread, I realized that it is much better to buy something long lasting as remembrance than spend winnings on food or anything consumable.
By using the winning money well, we can get other benefits. We can use the winning money for other people as gifts and it will bring happiness to them. The winning money will not be wasted if we give something to other people and we can also use it for our needs. Apart from that, with the winning money, we can also take a little of the money to use to gamble again. Even though we lose a little of the winning money, at least we have enjoyed the winning money well. We can also gamble another day with other money so it won't affect anything.
We can use the winning money to make our family or relatives happy, some gamblers suggest that we should add the winning money to the main financial allocation and never claim that the funds can be used for extravagance that is not useful for main needs, I have followed that advice from the winnings a high that had been reached several months ago and I had used the funds to the maximum only for family needs, but I only added part of the budget for gambling activities the next day. If I lose from gambling, the loss will not be higher than the total gambling winnings I have had in my betting history.
27  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: May 06, 2024, 05:06:51 PM
When losing in gambling it's crucial not to go further, the best idea would be hitting the quit button and try another day. It feels bad though and anger could erupt from losing lots of money, but it's safer to go with more money left on us than losing out all the money in a single session. Gambling is a recurring activity and next time we'll want to wager again. If nothing is left on us, we can't gamble again next time. Hence, managing our funds is the right thing, so that another session can be held few days ahead
We have to calm ourselves when we lose in gambling, we will not be able to stop gambling if we are still on standby in the gambling place or we are still active in the gambling account and you will potentially play other bets, so the wise step is to leave the gambling area and we have to go elsewhere to relieve anger that can trigger higher losses.

Actually, we don't mind the losses from losing gambling if we have set a budget limit for gambling, the fact is that many gamblers don't consider gambling for entertainment but they want to get passive income from betting, but the hope of increasing income from gambling will never be realized unless the losses will be come any time.
28  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Lost Data on: May 05, 2024, 09:14:34 PM
Files are not lost when you format your PC, they're still in the hard disk but they cannot be accessed by the operating system. There are many free recovery tools are online, but I do not know how effective they are and I cannot recommend one for you. Also, you should reconsider paying for one instead of downloading it for free because you do not know the authenticity of the application whether it's infected with malware.
You forgot to include that if you use the computer or laptop then there's a chance that the file will be lost if it is overwritten with new file. If OP's friend decided to use a software to recover lost files then I won't recommend using the laptop to avoid what I just explained. What decodx posted is what I would do after cloning which there's a chance to recover important files from the hard disk that OP's friend accidentally formatted.
I once recovered several files that had been deleted from a laptop using a free application, it is possible to recover 60% of the data that has been deleted if you immediately recover it using a file recovery application, but the recovery file will not overwrite files that are still on the laptop unless you restore those files. in the same folder and the file name is also the same, we can determine for ourselves which folder will recover the files. I tried using the window operating system and a file recovery tool application but I don't know on Linux, it's possible that they can recover files using certain coding commands without using the application.
29  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will the real bull run begin? on: May 05, 2024, 08:42:25 PM
holding of Bitcoin is good and they from your point of view we are saying the same thing but the thing is that what I do emphasize on his that before you hold a coin you should make a research if a bearish season will approach at that particular time but if bearish season will not hit up when you are holding it is good depending the time you want your investment to last so if you don't have a duration of the investment to last it is a place where you have problem but if you have a duration then you have no problem
We cannot determine when the bearish season will occur in crypto, in fact we almost experienced a bearish season last week but fortunately the market has recovered quickly to previous prices, it is likely that these conditions will support a higher rise in the following month and we may soon looking at the ATH this year, perhaps the $100k prediction discussed in the speculation thread will soon come true in 2024.

If they invest based on their respective fund allocation then they will invest long term, but in this market condition it is not recommended to start investing unless you are ready to face the risk of the impact of a bearish market, we will wait for bearish season prices to invest at cheaper prices and we will hold bitcoin assets for the next few years.
30  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Neymar being addicted to online poker on: May 05, 2024, 08:20:47 PM
Neymar is not addicted to poker. We shouldn't jump into conclusion.
I read the article and more information presented in the article makes me believe that he doesn't have an online poker or gambling addiction.

  • Neymar loves Poker and he's been playing it since After the 2014 World Cup
  • He intends to become a professional poker player and participate in major tournaments after his retirement from football.
  • He sees a similarity between poker and football
  • He is a brand ambassador with PokerStars

Now judge for yourself with this added information which the OP missed out, do you still think he has an online poker or gambling addiction?

Great points. As the ambassador he needs to play in public from time to time, it's most likely part of the contract. It's completely normal for someone who gets paid to promote coca cola to drink coca cola, even if it's unhealthy Wink
I wouldn't call a guy caught playing poker an addict. Does he support his family - yes. Is he successful in life - yes. Does he have a lot of money - yes. What's the problem then, let the guy enjoy his game.
Maybe he deliberately made a video of the act of playing gambling on his child's birthday, the video will make interesting material for discussion in various discussions and he has worked well to improve the casino product which has made him a gambling brand ambassador. The short video has sparked various opinions but if we know he is a gambling brand ambassador then we wouldn't be surprised that he is working on promoting the casino, because I'm sure he will prioritize family time on his son's birthday, nothing more valuable than anything except spending time with family.
31  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Double your money and quite on: May 05, 2024, 07:50:54 PM
Money in gambling is not permanent that's why we should not be greedy but withdraw the money quickly when the winnings reach an expected level. I have seen many gamblers who could not control their greed after a big win and at some point lost their winnings. Moreover, cases where gamblers have depleted their bankroll due to greed that are not new. I have lost my bankroll in my own case. So it must be said that if a big win comes then after receiving that money one should take a break from gambling even for a while and enjoy the winnings otherwise that money can be lost at any time.
Some gamblers instantly withdraw all funds enjoying big wins, they will buy expensive items and vacations to beach islands, but other gamblers continue to play in the hope of getting higher winnings and some other gamblers have withdrawn some of the winnings before betting again, but they will regret indulging in greed that will lead them to losses and ultimately they have lost all the funds they ever had in their gambling account. We have seen several similar cases that have happened to other gamblers, they have achieved the expected winnings but they say they will withdraw funds after reaching 2x higher than the initial winnings.
32  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: May 05, 2024, 07:32:02 PM
Gambling requires planning, like eating or renting. You must set a boundary or things get messy quickly. You stated losing yourself, which is a red indicator, pal. Check in with yourself honestly. "Am I having fun, or am I getting desperate?" You should leave if it's not fun. Being careful with gambling goes beyond money. Understanding your motivations. For thrills? An getaway from stress? Real change comes from understanding those causes, guy. You must limit your budget and mind. It's about long-term strategy, not just betting. That keeps gambling a choice, not an addiction
Gambling is not just setting limits on using funds to gamble and more than we imagine, that we have to anticipate emotional control to avoid the effects of addiction, the fact is that all gamblers know to understand the basic rules that must be avoided from addiction, we claim gambling is just for fun and gambling with responsibility, but when we are gambling we have gone outside the rules in gambling due to the impact of emotional control.

we must examine ourselves based on our gambling history, whether we have gambled according to the rules and budget limits or we have gambled irresponsibly which has resulted in loss of funds and loss of time, we must immediately examine ourselves to decide whether you are worthy to continue gambling with the correct gambling rules or you must be rehabilitated before you experience the effects of an addiction that is difficult to cure.
33  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are online/crypto casinos the most profitable digital business? on: May 05, 2024, 07:03:54 PM
While casinos can without a doubt reach a larger audience, as anyone can understand the rules of their preferred games in a matter of minutes, at the same time I think the money that goes into exchanges is many times higher, and this is because most gamblers are indeed responsible, so they only bet a small amount of their income, however traders use a great part of their wealth when trading, so even if there are less people using exchanges, they bring way more money with them.
I may not agree with the opinion about comparing the number of traders and gamblers, the number of registered trader users on Binance is already 190 million users and relatively they are active traders, the number of global traders would be higher if we knew the actual data, but you said the facts about relative traders use larger funds for trading than using them for gambling, some of them only use the lowest limit of funds for gambling because the ratio of gambling losses is higher than making profits, they say it is difficult to recover losses from gambling so they choose to use high funds on traders because there is an opportunity to recover losses on other coin trades.
34  Economy / Economics / Re: How safe is it to keep your money and gold underground? on: May 04, 2024, 06:29:09 PM
Who fucking keep his money in the trunk when someone might steal it. I dont see keeping money at home as a bad idea because sometimes when you want to access your money it somehow difficult to access it because the traditional bank these days are not to be trusted since the money is being used to invest or given to organizations as loan for there business.
I think instead of saving money at home it is better to save it in the bank but you have to make sure that the bank never experiences a case that harms customers, even though the negative impact is that the bank runs a loan business from customer savings, but if we are given a large share of the bank's profits maybe we will agree to choose that option rather than you having to worry if you keep money at home.

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Yes, the bank is supposed to be a place where one can save his money at least that was the idea form the beginning before so many policies and authorities tarts coming in. If the people dont trust the bank anymore then any other options will be at their own risk.
We still have many options to convert savings into assets to avoid the impact of inflation, the best option is to convert to gold, property and bitcoin investment, but you still have to have cash savings if you doubt the banking system with policies that are always changing and sometimes the policies do not improve benefit customers.
35  Economy / Economics / Re: Starting a business without capital. on: May 04, 2024, 06:09:26 PM
It is not possible to run a business without making a large capital investment. Affiliate marketing is not a business it is just a way to earn some income by promoting other's business or selling other's products. therefore, it cannot be considered as a business. Business is when you have your own products and sell them. and for this you must invest a lot of money. It is not possible to do business without big capital. i think op don’t know the difference of business and Affiliate marketing
I read references from several articles that affiliates are included in the business using a commission distribution system to affiliates who have promoted their products on social media or on their personal websites, but I do not agree that they are not really without capital but relatively they only use capital low for product promotion activities.

Affiliate activities are very much in demand for earning online income, for example on the TikTok application (perhaps some countries prohibit the TikTok application) which has released an affiliate feature which is widely used to promote products from online stores, they pay higher commissions than from other affiliate platforms.
36  Economy / Economics / Re: Harmful effect of robot to the world. on: May 04, 2024, 05:47:55 PM
If it's regarding the removal of a lot of employment due to the ability of robots or automations to do those jobs more efficiently then I agree with you that it's harmful to the world especially to the working class on the minimum wage bracket, they're the one that will be affected the most because they're doing most of the jobs that will be replaced by AI, robots, and other automation technology. And I'm telling you all that once this happens, it's going to be difficult to take it back or fight back because these corporations control the world and they don't care about their workers, if it's more profit to resort to automation, they're going to take it without any hesitation.
Company owners only think about profits and saving budget by using robotization systems to operate work processes more efficiently and we have to admit that robotization has worked optimally in accordance with the targets to be achieved even though robotization is considered to have harmed workers, but we cannot reject the era of technology that is growing and workers must increase their competitive abilities in order to get a job.

Relatively everyone has adapted technology in their daily activities, so they already know what to do to get work and income online without working for a company, some people have earned income from freelancing or other activities on social media that are profitable rather than just using it solely for viewing media only, so we are required to be productive and have useful skills to find opportunities for online work according to our respective abilities.
37  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price is going to touch all time highs on: May 03, 2024, 09:59:37 PM
Bitcoin price has already touched 69000 thousand dollars, which is the highest price of 2021. So how reasonable do you think it is that the price of bitcoin will touch 70k dollar again if it takes another step forward?

Bitcoin price hit an all-time high of $73.6k, although it held up for a while but made a big improvement just before the halving. The longer Bitcoin rolls through its four-year cycle, the more Bitcoin prices will continue to improve. From the present time you will notice that there have been a total of four halvings in the past, after these halvings Bitcoin price started pumping to the maximum. Maybe 100 plus days after the halving takes place Bitcoin's bull run begins.


Bitcoin started to dump during the start of this month and it made a low of around 56,500$. However, at that time many people started to panic and many social media influencers started to claim that we might be in the start of the bear market and bull market was over and all such negative comments.

Well, bitcoin price didn't last for long on those prices and now trading above 62,000$. It did not take long for the sentiments of those people to change from bearish to bullish within no time  Cheesy

If we have seen the previous bull markets, we should not panic on these short term price corrections and only focus on the long term price action for BitocoinBTC.
Significant market price changes have occurred in this week, I may have never seen bitcoin price has fallen 9% in a day and the next day the price has recovered 6%, we can judge that most bitcoin holders are still affected by influencer news, because some crypto news websites have manipulated the news to influence crypto holders and many news headlines contain hyperbolic combinations of words that stress that bitcoin market conditions will get worse or they claim that the bearish season will soon begin, the effect of this kind of news can affect bitcoin holders if they do not have real crypto knowledge.
38  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which device do you prefer for gambling ? on: May 03, 2024, 09:55:14 PM
I most enjoy playing on a desktop when no one is bothering me and I can create an atmosphere for myself in a room where it is quiet and peaceful. It is very important that no one distracts me from the game and I can fully concentrate on the process. This allows you to notice little things that will affect the game. If we play with a mobile phone in noisy places, such as a restaurant, train station or others, then we will not be able to fully control the game and will lose more than we should. Of course, there are those who are so lucky that it doesn’t matter where or what device they play on, but that’s not me.
We can enjoy gambling games using a desktop or at least using an iPad which is not connected to telephone communication, because if we activate the telephone on the device it will disturb our concentration to focus on gambling. You are right, maybe many gamblers don't have to choose a platform and some of them are more comfortable using cell phones because the devices are small and can be taken anywhere, but the impact is that we cannot gamble comfortably when several calls come in while we are gambling.
39  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling A Hobby? on: May 02, 2024, 08:18:00 PM
I think we should not be involved in such a hobby which just destroys our everything and if we are gambling just for entertainment then we should try to not change this entertainment into addiction.

Risk is involved in gambling so if someone thinks it is a hobby then they should not extend their busy hours in gambling and should stay focused on other activities of life too.
There are lots of other hobbies which can change your mind and make it active so try to be a part of that instead of losing your money by giving the name of hobby to gambling.
Anything that has a bad risk of having an impact on life should not be used as a hobby, but I don't know whether gambling can be considered a hobby even though someone can control their emotions and control in gambling, they even claim that they can make gambling just entertainment, relatively gambling has an addictive impact even though the level of addiction is different, The low-level impact of gambling addiction will affect your financial management because anyone will definitely gamble beyond the fund limits that you have previously determined.

Never make gambling your main hobby but increase other activities instead of gambling to avoid the effects of addiction. I choose exercise at the gym as my main hobby and also many other hobbies, but gambling is only for entertainment and I don't say gambling is a hobby because I rarely gamble except for certain football gambling and only occasionally gambling on slots.
40  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Streamers using demo account on: May 02, 2024, 06:25:32 PM
Lets say it is real that some streamers are using demo account and enhanced RTP, I say that it is not something wrong as long as the streamers are telling the truth.
It can be an problem if the streamers say that they are using real money while they are using demo account, it means they are liars.
However no matter they are using real account or demo account, we as viewers should take them as entertainment only.
We should not be attracted to do the same as what they do as what they do is just advertisement and they do it as a job.
Some casino platforms have affiliated with some streamers with many followers, they have paid streamers to promote gambling using underhanded strategies to deceive many followers, don't expect them to review honestly and they will not admit that the casino platform has sent a demo account with an increased RTP. for creating bad content. Actually, it's not just gambling but this case occurred on a trading robot platform.

But not all streamers are bad, some streamers will not accept offers that harm viewers and you have to be selective in having streamers review each platform with an honest explanation and make sure they are not affiliated with a casino platform.
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