Benson proposed posting this chat so that all forum members are kept in loop. KUNAL : Hi Benson, wanted to know if you are interested in flying to Chandigarh to meet our tech team including Stephan. Of course, Trestor will pay for airfare and hotel. This would help us prove that we are not a scam.
BENSON : You may think that you are not a scam, but you are, mate.. Am not a nasty person by nature, I just call them as I read them. And I have read that scary paper of yours.. Do try to defend what you have at least on the forums.. Once you cannot answer any more questions, back away and stop messing with people's money.
BENSON : No thank you for Chandigarh. Am there sometime in Aug, but for very cool things like Bitcoin.
KUNAL : We may make mistakes, but we are genuine people, not a scam.
BENSON : I have said that already.. You'll are pushing a scam product without even understanding it. I know some people from your team, they have connected with me on LinkedIn as well, so I know that is real. I also know that some on your list have moved on. The questions being asked are not about your team, but you and your product..
KUNAL : How is a genuine try to create a different cryptocurrency protocol and supporting Foundation a scam. Where Is the manipulation, what are we hiding.
BENSON : Its centralized from what I can see.. Its not even open source and you'll are plugging away with the words Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But of course, am not in the act of consulting you'll, my efforts work with open source and decentralized tech.. And it stops if either of the criteria is not met.
KUNAL : We are a protocol which is getting more and more decentralised literally every month.
KUNAL : Bitcoin's decentralisation rests on the assumption of competitive mining.
BENSON : I have very strong thoughts on alts mate. Very lengthy to explain on chat, so I would rather not. I never had any problem with you'll..
BENSON : Not sure why you even tried to make things personal, leak private chats without permission, etc
KUNAL : The chats were between 2 parties, one was me and the other was involved in the related discussion on the thread. Trust me when I say, nothing is personal here, I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings.
BENSON : You do not seem to understand how a lot of things work.. You did make it very personal to bring my friends personal life into a painted imaginary space...
KUNAL : But he had this all over his Instagram and FB, my team made sure that we do not post his comments and some other sensitive material. We found so many more inconsistencies, i've deleted everything, even what my team found out, I've asked them not to indulge in this again.
BENSON : You did this by yourself and then you blame your team. Not a good thing. He had it cos he can.. It had nothing to do with Bitcoin or coinsecure or the forums.. Was a poorly chosen tactic to divert from your own incompetence..
BENSON : Did you forget that you pinged me and told me that you had posted it?
KUNAL : How will this divert attention, what difficult question is Trestor not answering?
BENSON : It was a try to divert.. You have unresolved threads. You have not answered many many questions of the forum.. You have not yet let me know I can post this WhatsApp thing on the forums as well..
BENSON : So do you agree that you tried that parlour trick and then tried to blame your team?
KUNAL : No. I don't.
KUNAL : We will love to answer any objective question, it's almost impossible to answer to accusations.
BENSON : Lol... Take this chat to the forums.. Not interested in even trying to talk to paypal
BENSON : A PayPal clone
KUNAL : I won't take this to chats, I promise. If you want I can call you.
BENSON : No calls please, you are a dodgy person, I would like to maintain record of my words
KUNAL : ok
KUNAL : Please ask me any direct and objective question about Trestor and I will be happy to answer.
BENSON : I have, on the forums.. Do take it up there with the community..
KUNAL : Sure. But this is direct and quick, just copy and paste the questions and I will respond instantly.
KUNAL : I will also paste my answer there
BENSON : No thank you.. I do not need to be convinced.. I already know some outcomes of your product..
KUNAL : What are those outcomes?
BENSON : You should explain your privacy breaches and personal attack as well on the forums.. That is where you involved me..
BENSON : Not your consultant mate.. Try to get someone to help you understand what you are doing wrong..
KUNAL : and then you should clearly explain how Trestor is a Scam, shouldn't you?
BENSON : No.. I did not start that thread
KUNAL : But you were absolutely convinced that Trestor is a Scam.
BENSON : And I still am..
BENSON : Not sure why my opinion would matter tbh..
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KUNAL : I will stop Trestor project if you can tell me how we are Scams.
KUNAL : This is why your opinion matters.
BENSON : Come onto the forums and try to calm down with people and ask for their help... They are jumping at your throat cos we have seen stuff like this before
KUNAL : Sorry, but how are we a Scam. Please answer.
BENSON : You are premined, undecided, non open source, seemingly centralized, claim to be rolling out, but without open source
KUNAL : Undecided?
BENSON : If you'll have accepted money from people under these circumstances, you are a scam..
BENSON : Undecided on when you will release.. There was a post somehwere, where you'll had offered to open source the project by Mar 1st, that became july 1st and am quite sure that you'll would not open source the daemon as yet
BENSON : Since, even your paper had several flaws as outlined by skang
KUNAL : So Ethereum is a scam as well, right?
BENSON : I don't post about alts dude.. Please take your intentions elsewhere.. You are really trying the wrong place..
BENSON : Can I post this entire WhatsApp chat on forums? I have asked before as well
KUNAL : The very first para of our draft outlines that the draft is work in progress and will have inconsistencies, also, skang wasn't able to point at anything.
KUNAL : Sure.
BENSON : If it's a work in progress, how are you'll selling it?
KUNAL : I would really appreciate it. In fact, I want you to post it all.
KUNAL : bitcoin as mentioned by bitcoin foundation is an experiment.
BENSON : Cool, have a nice day..
KUNAL : You too, please post this all on forum and let the members decide.
BENSON : Yes and I am working with Bitcoin.. The forum is bitcointalk.. My thoughts are related to Bitcoin.. I can post if I want to, or not..
KUNAL : OK, good. Thanks.
BENSON : Please stop bothering me and the Bitcoin community.. But we will explain your centralised solution to everyone and make them aware that there is a far better option known as Bitcoin
KUNAL : OK sure, so are you still posting this chat. I think you should.
BENSON : Why not..
KUNAL : Great! thanks. I will keep checking. Have a good day.
BENSON : Sure, so keep checking.. While you are doing that, do resolve your threads as well.
KUNAL : ok thanks.