02c584e2cb49a5aabd9ceb1e5128cecd0a7ca96628e76b1491950f021a4852d8ec ? figure this out guys  What seems to be the problem? |
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Isn't it more efficient to search less pub keys over more steps? In other words, doesn't the process to convert the pub key to a comparable value take longer than it takes to generate the next baby step? I limited my search to 1000 keys based on this thought. Tried up to 160,000 pubs on keyhunt BSGS before. How many private keys did you find successfully? Zero, Null, Zilch, None, Nil Welcome to Bitcoin. I think it’s 6 one way, half a dozen the other. Running one pub key gets you X speed. Running multiple pub keys at once gets you X/# of pubkeys speed. Ultimately, #125 is too large of a range, whether you run 1 pub or 1000 pubs. But it can help you narrow down ranges IMO Problem with running multiple pubs instead of only the puzzle pub, is that you can't (or should not) look for any range less than 2^240 .. because you know that these pubs are randomly generated and not masked with leading zeros. That's why it would be effective enough ( and more feasible) to only search for a puzzle pub key in its range. |
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Keyhunt with bsgs is giving me 1 Exakeys/second speed. Its 1,000,000,000,000 Megakeys/s in 125 bit range which is quite impressive, Its almost identical to searching 66th puzzle with decent gpu. Correct me if i'm wrong.
I get 2 petakeys/s which is the biggest number I've ever reached in any cracking program. Uses 32 gb of ram .. imagine what you would get with 512 gigs 😍 |
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Rounded up 66 puzzle is 36.8934881474191 keys
That is 36.8934881474191 sextillion.
My question
what is or is there a record for the most amount of keys tried in a second via brute forcing ?
I have a script ive worked on for about a month its my own outside the box thinking.
Testing the script achieved what i want it to do.
It will 100% work however like everyone else we are not immortal and time is certainly not on anyones side brute forcing btc.
so thats where im stuck at.
i need 1 billion keys a second tried lol
it will still take time but for puzzle 66 it would take 1 billion keys per second, it would take approximately 37,000 seconds to try37 quintillion keys.
That is equivalent to about 10.28 hours.
One can dream eh.
Anyway if you reply please answer my question on what/if a record exsists.
I think your math is off. Many programs already out can do over 1 billion keys per second, GPU of course. 1 billion keys per second would take you 1,169 years. I thought so let me go slap chatgpt Edit maths does work out for what im doing Please please point me to where these apps can do 1 billion a sec per key or any info What if you have 1b keys/sec? The only way this is going to help is if you find a formula that can narrow down your range at least 1000 times less .. other than that go run your devices and try your luck🤞 |
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Why are you concerned, are you the database? |
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Tried up to 160,000 pubs on keyhunt BSGS before. How many private keys did you find successfully? Zero, Null, Zilch, None, Nil Welcome to Bitcoin. |
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The amount of space that 2^67 lines of text would take up in a .txt file depends on the length of each line.
line: 20000000000000000(17 char) 1LgpDjsqkxF9cTkz3UYSbdTJuvbZ45PKvx (34 char) 17+34 = 51
total number of characters as follows:
That is the worst way to store that informacion, to store it you need to store the data in its RAW data fot the address you only need the RMD hash in raw data it is only 20 bytes. For the privatekey there is two options, don't store the private key because you will not sort the Addresses or Store the private key because you want to Sort the addresses If you decide to store the private key you only need 9 bytes for it... in that case you only need 29 bytes. If you decide NOT store the private key you only need 20 bytes for the hash rmd. True! And to be completely blunt about this whole store data thingy, any file over a dozen terabytes is a stupid idea .. because you will not just save the file somewhere; you will also have to "process" it. I don't know about you, but i have dealt with big files before and it's a torture to process huge hard drive data .. torture in terms of time and resources. This is the reason why all cracking programs are checking data on the fly .. shows we fortunately have smart devs.. Also all these "bitcoin private keys" websites are doing it on the fly as well .. they are there not to be scraped or scanned, they are there for you to check keys individually or to grab information for testing reasons. |
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The amount of space that 2^67 lines of text would take up in a .txt file depends on the length of each line.
line: 20000000000000000(17 char) 1LgpDjsqkxF9cTkz3UYSbdTJuvbZ45PKvx (34 char) 17+34 = 51
total number of characters as follows:
2^67 lines * 51 characters per line = 3,689,348,814,741,248 characters
Each character takes up 1 byte of storage in a .txt file, so we can convert the total number of characters to bytes as follows:
3,689,348,814,741,248 bytes = 3,689,348,814,741 kilobytes (KB)
3,689,348,814,741 KB = 3,600,116,533 megabytes (MB)
3,600,116,533 MB = 3,515,203 terabytes (TB)
Therefore, if each line contains 51 characters, 2^67 lines of text would take up approximately 3,515,203 terabytes of space in a .txt file.
As of 2021, it is estimated that Google has over 2.5 million servers located in data centers around the world, with a total storage capacity of around 10 exabytes (10,000,000 terabytes) or more.
So, let us persuade Google to allocate 35% of its storage space to accommodate the data for our website.
The worst discussion I have seen in the entire thread till date is in these 2 to 3 pages.
Who said we're talking about 2^67 ?? I'm talking about 2^256 .. can Google or the whole universe contain that? |
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Tried up to 160,000 pubs on keyhunt BSGS before. |
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What Albert is saying; the keys aren’t ‘stored’ in some list on that website or any other website like it.
When a user clicks on a page, the website uses your cpu power to generate, the whole Bitcoin priv key to public address, at that time, on the fly.
Think about it, there isn’t enough memory/hard drive in the world to hold 2^256 keys, pub address, etc.
Using that site is pure brute forcing, page by page, which is eleventy million billion times slower than current programs.
i think your confuesed on what i mean yes 100% their stored it litterly tells you all private keys directory. but in all their skipped please go back and read what i said. if key #65 is in the puzzle on page 509472955201070048 theres no possible way that key was added to the list of private keys with there being a gap to fill meaning on page 509472955201070048 before puzzle #65 was found the order of private keys on the page went see how the ending numnber doesnt go in order by 0-9 a-f it skipped a key knowing that id copy and paste the before key and change the last character to its right key this being the number 67. 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26864 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26865 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26866 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26868 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26869 this is what the list looks like when #65 puzzle was added there is no way possible that you could have put 65 on that page unless the key was missing. 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26864 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26865 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26866 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26867 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26868 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26869 knowing this info the main website and the one i found have in order from 0-9 a-f increasing in 1 bit when finishing its rotation on 0-9 a-f . there no nothing their litterly in order the ending number of the private key start at 0 going 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-a-b-c-d-e-f-0-1-2 ect on one of these pages there HAS TO BE a skip in the pattern if not id be able to hold "CTRL F' search the p2pkh address and find what page 66 private key is on. test it yourself go to all private keys and btc. hold CTRL AND F type in a found puzzles p2pkh and itll take you to it type in a non found puzzle and its not in the data of the website easier way to explain it say you have the following numbers. you cant just add a "new" 7 its already there on one page it goes 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 you guys also dont think that your computer couldnt find a missing 1 digit character in a sequence of numbers and letter that don't change rather than finding the missing 17 by its self  ?
yes your scanning litterly trillions of page data but are you not also trying trillions of key combos in brute force ?? all im saying is that using brute force you guessing randomly a 17 digit code. my way your scanning a 17 digit code looking for the last letter error or skipped character in sequence. id say your odds at finding one random character and guessing the whole 17 digit code is ,much easier. If you dont believe me just do what i said gto look everything up its all there except for non cracked keys every other page is in order no skipped lines eventually on some pages finding in the list the other puzzles that were solved. again theres no way possible those keys were added to that list with a gab being there litterly no possible way. even though they arent say what your saying is true. there is no data base that holds all keys. then how is puzzle #65 found on page 509472955201070048 there had to be a skip in the keys to fill the gap. if not you could just go use CTRL F search the entire webpage data base for a p2pkh address if you type 66 its nothing found if you type any cracked puzzles p2pkh itll go to that page. if someone wants to talk over discord and i can computer screen share for a group thatd be alot easier than typing it out my discord is Otw2f#9888
if thats not the case the someone explain how all other puzzles that were found were just randomly added to the data sheet of keys ? itd be impossible unless its the first or last key on the page which it is because again you cant take and add a 7 into it youd have to have a gap to fill either a missing 7 and or the key found would be at the start or end of every page because that the only place one can add to without breaking the chain of 0-9 a-f as in i could only add 0 or 11 to my list i couldn't just toss that ending 7 in there with one already there btc private keys cannot be switched to different addresses. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]Did you understand now? its a script see here https://github.com/TheZ3ro/bitcoin-privatekey-db/blob/master/server.pythere is no pages,, its generated by you own computer the page that you click and random choosen ad the user explained to you, so dont waste your time here explaining to us 10 times your idea, Google, Microsoft, IBM, Oracle and all other big names combined can't hold the amount of data that the pvt key space consists of. If this doesn't convince him, I don't know what else to say. Edit: wait, actually that was a naiive example. Here's another one: the total amount of pvt keys equal - give or take - the amount of atoms in the entire universe. Imagine having the delusion to believe a website can hold this much data 😂 |
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Lol you don't get it yet do ya? I can use a kiddy python script to create an address like the one above using an invalid pvt key.. but you know what that means? It means that i have an address that i will never be able to use.. why? Because I DO NOT KNOW THE PVT KEY THAT WILL ACTUALLY SPEND FROM IT. the out-of-range pvt key i posted happens to hash its way to that address, but it's not able to spend from it. Get it? The word "invalid" is not an accessory. It literally means you're screwed if you use it
Would you like to put your money on it? Go ahead and send a few bucks to it, and watch how I spend from it. You don't get it yet do ya? !!! Come on now😉 Not so fond of sending stuff to a dead address .. Why not you do in and out txs from it right now and be my hero? Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ypgyd/how_does_the_range_of_valid_ecdsa_private_keys/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_buttonReading the above post, it proves that generating from out of range keys will let it roll over again, meaning you still didn't get out of the pvt key range. You and me were wrong lol. I was wrong when i implied we could hash our way to the address using such pvt key. You were wrong when you thought the key is valid. |
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fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140 .. there are also invalid public keys. The reason is there are pub keys that lie outside the curve. But i gotta agree that the mentioned pubs above are interesting, especially knowing that one of their addresses is a used one.
There is no such a thing as invalid private or public key, whatever private key you think is invalid or outside the range, I will prove you wrong if you just show it to me. Deal! Prove me wrong, type this pvt key into the "view details" page in bitaddress.org and if you get an address out of it I'll send you 5 BTC: fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364142 You can keep your bitcoins, of course above the range no value could be considered a valid key, but here is your address 13wLt3CDiHDiiNKtmj5pH6LGJM9JZGcEXZ
Guys please refrain from consecutive posts, it's not cool. Just get back at skipping pages one by one, you could search at least 20 million pages by the end of the year! 😉 Lol you don't get it yet do ya? I can use a kiddy python script to create an address like the one above using an invalid pvt key.. but you know what that means? It means that i have an address that i will never be able to use.. why? Because I DO NOT KNOW THE PVT KEY THAT WILL ACTUALLY SPEND FROM IT. the out-of-range pvt key i posted happens to hash its way to that address, but it's not able to spend from it. Get it? The word "invalid" is not an accessory. It literally means you're screwed if you use it |
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Who in the world invented the false info that #66 would take 100ish TB lool .. #66 is 17 digits but let's say it's only 16 ok? Now even a 14 digit puzzle would take on your hard drive almost 61,000 TB 😘 (that is, removing all leading zeros before the 14 digits AND not showing their corresponding addresses) I'll let you imagine how much space would #66 need then.
chat gpt said: One gigabyte (GB) is equivalent to 1,073,741,824 bytes. Therefore, the disk space required to store the numbers between 2^65 and 2^66 is approximately 39,614,081,257,132,288 bytes / 1,073,741,824 bytes/GB ≈ 36.9 GB. I'm in aw .. you basically trimmed down the size needed to store 36.8 million trillion lines into a file that merely can store 8-character puzzle. Amazing. If it's too low in size, do it on your computer right now, meet me after your computer hard disk runs out of everything. Edit: 36 gig will store 5 billion lines at max. |
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Who in the world invented the false info that #66 would take 100ish TB? lool ..
#66 is 17-characters but let's say it's only 16 ok?
Now even a 14-characters puzzle would take on your hard drive almost 61,000 TB 😘 (that is, removing all leading zeros before the 14 digits AND not showing their corresponding addresses) I'll let you imagine how much space would #66 need then.
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fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140 .. there are also invalid public keys. The reason is there are pub keys that lie outside the curve. But i gotta agree that the mentioned pubs above are interesting, especially knowing that one of their addresses is a used one.
There is no such a thing as invalid private or public key, whatever private key you think is invalid or outside the range, I will prove you wrong if you just show it to me. Deal! Prove me wrong, type this pvt key into the "view details" page in bitaddress.org and if you get an address out of it I'll send you 5 BTC: fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364142 |
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Edit: Example of a strange public key: 0400000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c633f3979bf72ae8202983dc989aec7f2ff2ed91bdd69ce02fc0700ca100e59ddf3 0400000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63c0c686408d517dfd67c2367651380d00d126e4229631fd03f8ff35eef1a61e3c Find their difference, also after that check 69 and 96 as hex, convert them to decimal and compare their values and difference in values, as I have said before this is an ocean, and somehow the designers of EC and the math involved either used magic to come up with these equations, or I am still unable to fathom the infrastructure underneath them all, yet. Do not rely on existing tools, if you can come up with new solutions, share them if they can not be used to endanger coins other than puzzle coins. Otherwise you should not reveal anything if it can be exploited to steal coins from people. That's bullshit mate. These are freaking completely normal VALID public keys and have of course private keys that are connected to the them. There is nothing strange with them or what so ever.... Just because a public key has many zeros does not make it "weird" or "strange". Here's a VALID private key with many zeros. Is it weird? 000000000000000000000000000000000ffff000000000001111111111100000
It's actually interesting to see public keys that follow this pattern. The keys produce the following addresses when they are uncompressed:
./calculatefrompublickey 0400000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c633f3979bf72ae8202983dc989aec7f2ff2ed91bdd69ce02fc0700ca100e59ddf3
address 16qakrWzEAPvDsY1yMdCrkgAWZ6DxpTK4z
./calculatefrompublickey 0400000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63c0c686408d517dfd67c2367651380d00d126e4229631fd03f8ff35eef1a61e3c
address 14szHdohyNkdE3XdiwUw1wNmuBUamPBXiS
at compressed format they produce the following addresses (and they had an out transaction meaning they have a valid private key)
./calculatefrompublickey 0200000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63
address 13see6qjfupx1YWgRefwEkccZeM8QGTAiJ
./calculatefrompublickey 0300000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63
address 1LVAsnUyEtJgZ9HzLfbtiJZuZMzHLX1n6k
Just like there is invalid private keys, specifically those after the key fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140 .. there are also invalid public keys. The reason is there are pub keys that lie outside the curve. But i gotta agree that the mentioned pubs above are interesting, especially knowing that one of their addresses is a used one. The only thing I'm not so fond of is the idea of.trying to figure out a mathematical formula to solve the puzzle. Sometimes it's possible to find a pattern in chaos, but most times you can't. It feels weird for me to say that especially that i believe numbers are the solution to everything and the base behind the universe existence. I once was joking saying to my cousin that God is Math! Lol. Problem with big numbers like the ones we're dealing with right now is it's bigger than human imagination. The lowest number of keys we're going after here is #66 which evaluates to 36.8 Million Trillions. And according to WanderingPhilosopher's calculations, the lowest number here is #125, using kangaroo, this number has gotten smaller: 2^63.05 .. if we manage to solve any of these two puzzles, we will literally make history. |
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I (and whoever else joins in my race) will be using kangaroo however, I am using some other tools to shorten the range. Every little bit helps lol
If you have a keyhunt cuda that could be used for 125+ ranges and on windows, I could join, but I don't think you have that, so while you are doing your work, I'm using mouse and keyboard instead of software! Lol twice. #125 needs Kangaroo. Nothing else. Normal brute force is gonna take entire universe time. |
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The 0.09 btc to 1BgGZ9tcN4rm9KBzDn7KprQz87SZ26SAMH maybe start of a countdown? What happens at 0? End of puzzle?
IMO it was a signal so peeps would know to look at the challenge wallets; since that wallet is the most watched, recognizable address. Could be wrong though 🤷♂️ Not wrong, it was the only address with a solved pvt key that got funded almost 10x its original prize. That's a light switch. |
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And how can you calculate or guess which letter comes next? There is no way. Hash is only one way and only one piece. I can't say that puzzle 66 randomly starts at 3C that easy
I’m not guessing. All ranges will be accounted for, but if someone thinks the key lies in 1, 2, 3, etc ranges. They can focus their firepower in that range. But at least half of work in every range will be good and help towards the private key. And all of the work in the range where the key does lie, will be good. What about random kangaroos? Is it worth the thought? |
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Anyways, @WanderingPhilosopher is there any news about the new program? Did you get it to move up in bit size? Negative...I have not solved the stride function on GPU yet. I am going a different direction until that is solved. In the meantime, everyone needs to think/guess/fortune cookie/etc, what they think the second character is for #125, b/c it starts with a 1, we know that much. So what are the first 2 characters, 1F, 1E, 1D, 17, 15, etc? I have a plan to attack this and let people help in the range (1F, 1E, etc.) they feel is the contains the private key...more to follow. Why? How many bits would be the key space if we got the first two characters right? No wait don't answer that lemme try.. 61.55 bits Close...2^61.05 I've gotta do some prep work/leg work to get this right... We could start in that range from the middle, then near the end, and eventually near the beginning. Like 18'ish then 1F'ish then 11'ish Then turns out to be 13 and screws us up. Tough task. |
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