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Yea you are 90% sure, because since this thread started you have basically always implying im talking some sort of bullshit for no reason.
Please keep blindly believing those bookies, but stop implying things here for no reason.
I've given you several reasons for having my opinion - and I'm being pretty explicit about what my opinion is. The biggest reason is that it's become a fairly regular thing for players to use multiple accounts to get around sportsbook limits after being caught, paid, and warned multiple times, and then come here and play dumb while telling only part of the story in a scam accusation thread hoping to manipulate the community into pressuring the book to pay them. Two examples (I'm much more confident than 90% for these): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400984.0Your situation just has too much in common to overlook the possibility that you're doing the same thing. I'm sorry if you're not - truly. But keeping my mouth shut does more damage than sharing my thoughts (more players will keep doing this, using the forum to manipulate the community, until it doesn't work anymore). At least imo. I get that. And i do know, that there are probably more people out there that will tell some bullshit than actually being not guilty. Please also consider tho, how often casinos/sportsbooks do shady shit. You are kinda acting like they are always the victim and innocent. And you must also admit, that you are not giving any chance here to proof different. You are constantly just coming forward and implying that im trying to play dumb or whatever. And i do think, that therefor you are actually doing damage. Because its nothing productive, you are not asking me to show proofs or anything, just saying that im probably guilty. As i said, im very willing to lay things open, and proof that im not just telling 20% of the story. Also just wanna add, that you are constantly leaving out the fact that they do not have this rule in their ToS. I get that you see a bad intention in my action, but you cant leave this very important fact aside. As i said before, i also play at different sportsbooks - and i respect their rules. Im not gonna multi account there - because its forbidden. And almost certainly im not gonna risk 10k on a crypto casino if i have been warned before and risk losing my money. |
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@Lak93xy you could bring a lawsuit against them, similar cases has been got right delivered by the past.
Yea, im considering that already. Even more after such an answer. I know my case is strong enough, since they cant back up anything they claim here. |
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This is simply not true, you have not warned me a single time nor have you ever banned one of my accounts before.
Please provide evidence of that.
Im sure there have to be chat messages or whatever.
If they post chat messages, you could just say that's not you they were chatting with. It's a messy situation. I'm like 90% confident that you were warned on other accounts and playing dumb now. Common sense would tell you that when you get limited, it means they don't want your action, and opening a new account to get around those limits is the same as tricking them into taking action they don't want, which is nefarious. Rollbit needs to be extremely confident that the person behind this account is the person behind the other accounts that were explicitly warned. I also think they've put themselves in a untenable situation by offering lines that can be beat while at the same time taking action from new accounts and enforcing limits on individuals. They should figure out a solution or an innocent player will eventually have their funds seized and their reputation will be damaged. (1xbit is a well known scam casino that has this move in their business plan. You don't want to be looked at like 1xbit) I also think they should be explicit in their terms that using alts to get around sportsbook limits is not ok - yes, it's common sense, but clearly the fact that it's not in the terms will be enough to convince players to give it a shot and see what they can get away with. Why would i even come back and deposit TEN THOUSAND if i would have received a warning and you threatened to seize my funds? This makes absolutely no sense.
Maybe you couldn't get action anywhere else with their lines, maybe you had your eye on a particularly juicy edge, you thought you'd get away with it, you thought you'd convince them to return the money if you didn't. Lots of possible reasons. I assume you were up significantly more than $10k on your other accounts. Yea you are 90% sure, because since this thread started you have been basically always implying im talking some sort of bullshit for no reason. Please keep blindly believing those bookies, but stop implying things here for no reason. Also where is there proof of claim here? There argument is equally unfair, because they can just post chat messages and say its my account. How does that proof anything? For example, its the first Account where they asked me to KYC. So theres literally only one account where ive done KYC. Im willing to lay everything open. For a matter of fact, my accounts are not banned besides that one, and im willing to let someone from this forum as a middleman look into this accounts, and see my history AND most importantly that i havent received any warning. But obviously they could just investigate further now and ban those accounts and deny my access to them. (But i made screen recordings just now while im in the account, showing date and everything. So be careful rollbit  ) Also, if they would have warned me on other accounts and decided to pull the plug on this one finally, why havent they mentioned anything about that in the chat messages they sent me in the end? I have the entire conversation screenshoted and not once have they said "because you have been warned before" or anything like that. |
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The more i think about your reply, the more angry i get.
Why would i even come back and deposit TEN THOUSAND if i would have received a warning and you threatened to seize my funds? This makes absolutely no sense.
Do you really think i would come back to your site and risk this amount of money? Im not sure what picture you are trying to draw here, but i havent won that much on your site. You are acting like i won some insane amount on your platform which is not the case
And second; If you were aware of everything & you dont want people to do that on your site, because as it seems im not the only one who has created new accounts for new sport limits, why didnt you change your ToS?
Honestly this answer just proves to me how scammy you guys are.
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We appreciate you bringing these issues forward but we must add further context that you failed to mention.
This was not your first account on Rollbit, you've had numerous accounts limited & banned.
Each time, sufficient warnings were given to ensure you understood that future accounts would be actioned and we'd seek to recoup loses from such abuse.
As you correctly identified, we're generally fine with folks having alternative accounts as long as they're not being utilised for nefarious purposes.
This was not the case here, you opened multiple accounts with the sole purpose of abusing our sportsbook, something you were warned previously for.
Following previous warnings, you were permitted or already did withdraw all of your funds.
It's worth noting for the other participants of this thread, this is most definitely not an action we profit from. It's more recouping losses, as we've already lost a significant amount of value through this type of abuse.
This is simply not true, you have not warned me a single time nor have you ever banned one of my accounts before. Please provide evidence of that. Im sure there have to be chat messages or whatever. All that has happened so far to my accounts is just purely being limited. Why are you lying? Also, where have i said that this was my first account? I stated right at the start that this was NOT my first account. Im sure there are other folks out there, who maybe did the same. But how do you draw the conclusion that those were MY accounts? I would really appreciate you coming forward with evidence, to prove that those accounts warned were mine. Honestly sounds to me like you are aware, that it looks super scammy to do what u did without previous warnings. So theres really only 2 options; either you are trying to lie about it OR ur confusing other accounts with mine. |
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Having fun with it is one thing. But I don't think OP had a practical joke on his mind when he created his second account. If that's the case, sports betting is flawed. Gambling is flawed and winners are undesirable. Dana White has admitted he is not allowed to play at a number of the top casinos in Las Vegas due his high-stakes game. The UFC president is a prolific gambler, and has been known to win major amounts during hours-long sessions at tables in his adopted home in Nevada. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/ufc-president-dana-white-explains-27741324So they just created the multi-accounting allowance to scam people? If it's considered fair use in your eyes, then there's clearly something wrong with this industry, something wrong with you protecting them. I can say the same thing. If you consider using multiple accounts as a workaround to betting limits, then there is something wrong with you and your interpretation of what is fair and what isn't. I am not protecting them. I just don't agree with you and your way of understanding fair usage. I think you knew exactly what you wanted to do but it didn't work. Or maybe it worked for a while until they figured it out. This last part is again speculation based on the support admins answer where he thanked you for giving back a part of the money you allegedly took from the casino. If a player plays by the rules and follows every rule and every clause of Rollbit's T&C precisely. That's again your interpretation of events. Mine is different and that's why we don't see eye to eye. You think your multi-accounting was cute and innocent fun, I think it was a well thought out move to get greater betting limits, wager more than allowed, and win more. Furthermore, I've been waiting for days for them to tell their side of the story here, which they have just avoided. Tells you something about it, doesn't it? That we agree on. No matter what decision was taken, they should explain what they think happened and why they did what they did. Not a single rule or warning was given to me not to multi-account to bet on better limits. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Show me where you asked their support if you are allowed to use multiple accounts to circumvent set betting restrictions and they said it's fine to do that! it was confirmed multiple times by their own staff that it is fine to multi-account. The reasons and purposes for the multi-accounting is the question, not if it is or it isn't allowed. You didn't ask them the right questions, so they couldn't have given you the correct answers that apply to the way you wanted to use your betting accounts. That screenshot from your friend has nothing to do with your case. You might have your reasons to defend them. I have my own reasons to protect my funds. It is what it is. Still, I'm sure if this thing goes official, I am in the right here. Nevertheless, it's a useless back-and-forth discussion here between us. Nothing constructive about it anymore due to everyone sticking to their own point of view. Let's just wait for Rollbit to answer and hopefully we can get it solved and they'll return my funds. Peace. |
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Hopefully not. It's always the common folk and retail who get punished.
What CZ did was of course silly (there would have been a chance for FTX to recover if he had properly pushed it).
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What specifically did you ask them. That's the question. Literally, what was the question(s) that you asked.
Damn, I already thought that I can't find any hard proof regarding support and their answers. Gladly, a friend of mine, who introduced me to Rollbit was smart enough to screenshot his conversations with the Live Chat and to keep them as a piece of evidence. For what it's worth, he used multiple accounts for sports betting as well. Yet, for some reason, his funds never got seized... No idea, what was so special about my multi-accounting case (the reason that I ended up winning?).  |
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That is not the point. I confirmed multiple times if multi-accounting was fine & it was. On a normal site that doesn't allow multi-accounting, I will accept this and leave their platform. On Rollbit tho, it was fine to replace an old account with a new one to get better limits. Which I have repeated like 25 times now. This is important: in what way did they confirm that multi-accounting was fine? Was it perhaps that multi-accounting was fine... but only for the website in general? Or did you specifically ask about sportsbetting? If a casino tells you, "don't do this," and you create a new account for that purpose, is that okay? If you simply asked vague questions multiple times, then you'd get vague answers - which may coalesce into a specific truth you don't like. Agreed. If a casino tells me "don't do this", I won't do it. However, that's not the core here. The core here is, that I've been playing everything by their own rules. In addition, sports betting is part of their website, so they're not canceling each other out, now do they? Please try to focus on the fact that no rules were broken and everything was fair and square - no warnings were given, nothing. Rollbit waited for me to deposit that $10k and then seized my funds without an explanation. This is important: in what way did they confirm that multi-accounting was fine?
» By closely reading their Terms & Conditions, rules, and FAQ. » By confirming with the support and the Live Chat. » By asking them multiple times on their official Discord Server. Was it perhaps that multi-accounting was fine... but only for the website in general?
Or did you specifically ask about sports betting? If a casino tells you, "don't do this," and you create a new account for that purpose, is that okay
Multi-accounting is fine on their whole website www.rollbit.com - that includes everything in their casino: from sports betting, slots, battles, to everything else. Again, the casino didn't tell me "not do this". Instead, it was confirmed multiple times by their own staff that it is fine to multi-account. If you simply asked vague questions multiple times, then you'd get vague answers - which may coalesce into a specific truth you don't like.
How more concrete can it get than their own Terms of Services saying that it is fine to multi-account & their staff confirming that alternative accounts are allowed? |
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I've been mostly streaming on Twitch, but have had my own issues here & there due to the nature of my channel (mostly slots and sports betting) - it was all good a few months ago before the new rules, that's how I made most of my money. Maybe anyone has any other good recommendations outside of the scope of Twitch? (Youtube's a hustle, really hard to pick up and monetization wise doesn't seem the best).
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