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21  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 16, 2014, 02:49:19 AM
Nice to see that the site isn't exactly a prime dice clone. What percentage of the bankroll is the max bet?


Max win is 0.05247555 ?? thats one of the smallest ive ever seen you should make it bigger asap

By default, the house edge is 1% and the max win if 0.5% of the bankroll, but the house edge and max win are floated.

On the high bets tab, you can see this bet https://safedice.com/bet/33843 , the player-160 bet 0.15830207 BTC for a 1.95959596 payout, that's because when the max win is bigger than 0.5% of the bankroll, the house edge floated accordingly.

Currently, the house edge is capped at 3%, and we'll lift it to unlimited very soon, that means you can take away the whole bankroll with a single bet under a high house edge, stay tuned guys!

And thanks to dooglus again for the great advices:)
22  Economy / Gambling / Re: What do you think of these days as most hot gambling sites and games? on: November 15, 2014, 04:56:13 PM
We just launched SafeDice, so far a lot of people are impressed by the design, we have a 1% house edge and instant payout, please feel free to test it:) https://safedice.com
 
Our official thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855394.0

23  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 15, 2014, 04:32:09 PM
Nice site, nice design! Hope you aren't T04D or so.

Umm, if we were him, we'd rather continuing the site rather than close the site and start from scratch  Sad

Nice site, surpisingly awsome design. You guys really did put some effort into this project  Tongue
Good Luck!
Do you accept only BTC or are you going to add other crypto?
Btw nice disign I like colors and background

Thanks guys! Happy to hear that... Yes, we developed the site to be ready for other crypto. But we would like to focus on BTC first, getting stable before we go with other currencies. Just like what JD did before launching Doge Dice Smiley
24  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 15, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
Every time I try to type 1.1 in the payout field, it turns to 1.02061856 automatically and I can't modify it, that is, when I was trying to delete 6, it won't let me do it.

Anyone else experiencing this? I'm using safari.

This is what I'm experiencing too, seems it's not fixed yet.


I've typed "0.00000010" into the stake box, and am trying to type "1000" into the payout box. As soon as I hit the "1", the payout box changes to "1.02061856". I don't know why.


Hi nothingnew, thank you for the inputs, we will fix this as soon as possible.

And thank dooglus for testing the site, as a  new site in this industry, we are so grateful Smiley

Hi nothingnew, all glitches in the stake box should be fixed by now, thank you for the input again and sorry for the inconvenience.


    I used the VPN also won't open.

Hi fangj1n, can you please describe how does the site not opened? Do you sawCloudFlare's verification? Or it just doesn't showed at all?
Except you just very (un)lucky to access the site while we are updating it, everything should be fine Smiley
25  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 15, 2014, 06:23:48 AM
I saw this bet " 22150   rexxludi   69.0709   < 88.3929   0.13430087   1.10 ×   0.01307730 "

I think there is a problem because if 1.10x the target must be 89.9999 ? right ?

Ok, so the house she was high on this one but still, 0.13430087 times 0.10 isn't 0.01307730! You're off by a few percent.

Hi Dooglus, because it shouldn't be 1.1 payout, it is actually 1.09737321 you can test this is right by multiplying the payout and the win chance Smiley

The payout shown in the bet box when the bet was made will be 1.09.. and the payout shown in the bet details is also 1.09.. It is only sown 1.10 in the log table because it is rounded to two decimals digit for simplicity.

We will modify the payout in the log table to show the actual number in the next update.
26  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 15, 2014, 02:03:19 AM
Every time I try to type 1.1 in the payout field, it turns to 1.02061856 automatically and I can't modify it, that is, when I was trying to delete 6, it won't let me do it.

Anyone else experiencing this? I'm using safari.

This is what I'm experiencing too, seems it's not fixed yet.


I've typed "0.00000010" into the stake box, and am trying to type "1000" into the payout box. As soon as I hit the "1", the payout box changes to "1.02061856". I don't know why.


Hi nothingnew, thank you for the inputs, we will fix this as soon as possible.

And thank dooglus for testing the site, as a  new site in this industry, we are so grateful Smiley
27  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 14, 2014, 05:23:09 PM
I just tried setting a username and password.

I typed a 32 character password, twice.

It told me "Minimum password length is 6".

It turned out it didn't like the exclamation mark I had in my password.

It would be better if you allowed weird characters in passwords, or at least told the user what the rules are, rather than saying "minimum 6"!

I tried to set my client seed. It told me "bad request", but not what was wrong with it.

Seems there's a limit of 15 characters - if so, tell me. "bad request" isn't helpful.

Thanks Doog, both of them have been fixed. We will also recheck through all the notifications within this week Smiley
28  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 14, 2014, 05:01:58 PM
It's a nice UI but the wrong time to open an investment website imo. I don't think people will invest their coins into new websites anymore, pretty sure everyone has learned there lesson.

Yes, its quite difficult time. People have their limit, not all, but majority and bigger player & investors might stand back for quite a time. Sad to see the industry destroys itself.

This is a good question and as you are also not the first person to mention this Smiley

But we don't think waiting longer is a good idea either. We are agree that trust is important, and it is build, not made in a single night. For this reason we believe that the sooner we launched the site, the more time we get to prove ourselves, and the more time we get to improve the site. By the time the industry is healed, the site will be more "ready," both in term of features and trust-ability.
29  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 14, 2014, 03:13:52 PM
Hi CoinCollect, at that time he is using 2-3% HE calculation (depends in the bet size), in that case the payout and target is correct.
30  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 14, 2014, 09:48:28 AM
@Doog: Thanks for the comprehensive test and 'segnalation'... And sorry for the inconvenience. Will look into it Smiley

House Edge is 3% ? No thanks. But your designer knows his business, good ui.
Also I didn't deposit, made bet with 0 satoshi. It was so slow because of 0 satoshi?

Ummm, actually it is 1% by default, 2% - 3% are optional for player that want to bet higher than 0.5% of the bankroll. And yes, there is a delay for 0 satoshi Smiley
31  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 14, 2014, 08:12:16 AM
What's the maximum house edge? I didn't see it go above 3%, which presumably means you can profit by 1.5% of the 10 BTC backroll, or 0.15 BTC. Maybe that's what caused the crash.

Thank you so much for the catch Doog! We just fixed both glitches you mentioned Smiley

You missed the point about the maximum house edge. It looks like I can attempt to win 20 BTC by betting 20 BTC with a 48.5% chance. That's only a 3% house edge, when I'm trying to win over 100% of the bankroll.

Also, why would you only adjust the house edge in whole percentages? It would make sense to offer the exact "right" edge. If I'm trying to win 10% of the bankroll, make the house edge 20%, if I'm trying to win 10.001% of it, make the edge 20.002%, etc.

You could consider going lower than 1% too, for small bets. Then you'd have a real unique feature to boast about!

Hi Doog,

What do you mean by missing the point about the maximum house edge? Can you please help to elaborate?

We also thought about floating house edge the first time, to have variable house edge using a proper kelly criterion. And then, we thought that it might be a difficult to understand concept to new players and investors. Plus, we wouldn't be able to advertise the site as "1% house edge." That's why we came out with the "semi floating" idea. There's also one consideration that using total floating might encourage players to make a dust bet.

However seeing this post is made by you, it really make us think twice about our decision. We will discuss this internally and probably implement it asap. Thanks for the "site changing" post Cheesy

I just tried setting a username and password.

I typed a 32 character password, twice.

It told me "Minimum password length is 6".

It turned out it didn't like the exclamation mark I had in my password.

It would be better if you allowed weird characters in passwords, or at least told the user what the rules are, rather than saying "minimum 6"!

Sorry for the inconvenience Doog. Noted this and will fix on the next update  Smiley
32  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 14, 2014, 06:19:44 AM
Want to share my bets with you guys.
I can say its good and secure site, i have recieved my winnings in few seconds, I hope they will stay at the same and try too improve the site more and more, it will become one of the best im sure.

good luck

http://s28.postimg.org/4t5y601sd/fffddswwwww.png



LOL another dice site , well good luck !

I would love to play there if i have luck Wink

Thank you guys! We will do our best to improve the site, of course  Smiley
33  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 14, 2014, 12:48:30 AM
guess ur chinese, the languages listed only english and chinese, layout pretty good, u need more advertising push i believe, and i just found out this today

The Chinese flag is right, but the English flag isn't. That looks like the USA flag, not the English one.

Sorry for the confusion Doog, it was meant as American English, but I realized that it is not common and just changed as suggested.

Impressive job. Minor nitpick, on the splash page you should fill probably prefill the input box with the attribute placeholder="player" instead of: value="player"

Thanks Rhavar! We did it on intention because it is an alias (optional), so people can just left it with default value.

I tried experimenting with the variable house edge, checking out what chance it would give me of doubling 1 BTC or 2 BTC.

After a while things stopped updating.

I checked the console and saw errors:



What's the maximum house edge? I didn't see it go above 3%, which presumably means you can profit by 1.5% of the 10 BTC backroll, or 0.15 BTC. Maybe that's what caused the crash.

Also, if I'm trying to edit a stake of 0.001 to 0.002, I go to the end, backspace over the '1', the site notices that the 0.00 left in the box is just 0, so replaces it with '0'. Then I type the 2, and I'm betting 2, not 0.002.

The site shouldn't try to be so clever - it shouldn't try to edit the same box I'm currently editing. I should be able to go to the end of 0.001, hit backspace then type a '2' and then see "0.002" in the box, not just "02".

Thank you so much for the catch Doog! We just fixed both glitches you mentioned Smiley. We also notice the same happen for Win Chance and Payout box, we'll look into this soon.

Nice work, welcome on board  Wink

Hello fellow op! Good luck for both of us Smiley

Not a bad site, other than the fact that its another dice site  Wink
 I would suggest against a referral system. People will just refer themselves to make a rakeback of what they lose/win.



Wish you luck on your venture! This could be a huge success if you make the right marketing moves and such.

Thanks for the advice Mist, will note it Smiley
34  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 13, 2014, 03:34:24 PM
The password field on the login form has a max length of 15 characters. I assume this is a mistake and means that people with a longer password cannot login atm.

Yeah, I am account number 69, and I can't log in with my 32 character password anymore.

Sorry for the inconvenience, we just made few changes on the validation and it got affected. You can try again now Smiley
35  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 13, 2014, 02:14:27 PM
So... SD? People will get confused between SatoshiDice and SafeDice... Oh well.

The game looks like my iPad mini with the gradient colors.

However, the server seed is NOT shown BEFORE I am allowed to set my client or account seed. To be truly provably fair, you must show the server seed hash, and then allow the player to set their account seed.

Your 2FA QR code does not have the required white space border around it, also known as the quiet zone. I had to save your QR code and open it on a white background before my phone could scan it.

Try it like this:


Hi there Dabs Smiley Thank you so much for the suggestion. We got your point, we will change those as soon as possible, both the fair calculation and QR code border. Actually it can be scanned, but we agree that it is quite difficult at the moment.

Hi Dabs, the fair calculation has been modified so it shows the server seed hash before the player able to set his account seed. We are now using the similar way JD has been using back then. Actually just to confirm, the previous method still doesn't allow the site to modify the bet along the way, although I just realized that it enables the site to set the server seed based on the player's behavior (but still the most beneficial way for the site itself is pure random). However, thanks for pointing this out.

We have also fixed the QR code visualization and adding 1X quiet zone (as suggested on https://qrworld.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/the-quiet-zone/). Thanks again Dabs!

so shiny & futuristic site  Shocked
And I think this site will be famous as PD

Something is missing...
auto bet & affiliate program Grin


Looks very cool, I will definitely try it out.

Thank you so much for the appreciation guys! @lontong, thanks for the suggestion as well, we'll discuss that on our development plan
36  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 13, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
The design of your site is great and pretty original IMO. Smiley

On the withdraw page, there is a line "All your deposits must receive enough confirmations before you are allowed to withdraw." I would suggest you to specify exactly how many confirmations are required.

Hi Chemistry,

Thanks for testing the site, confirmations required depends on the deposit amount, we've specified it on the FAQ page: https://safedice.com/faq


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Withdrawal in SafeDice is instant. However, all your deposits must receive enough confirmations before you are allowed to withdraw. Minimum number of confirmations required is the number of digits in the integer part of square of your deposit amount. For example 2 coins deposit needs 1 confirmation (2 x 2 = 4) while 10 coins needs 3 confirmations (10 x 10 = 100).
37  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 13, 2014, 08:47:40 AM
So... SD? People will get confused between SatoshiDice and SafeDice... Oh well.

The game looks like my iPad mini with the gradient colors.

However, the server seed is NOT shown BEFORE I am allowed to set my client or account seed. To be truly provably fair, you must show the server seed hash, and then allow the player to set their account seed.

Your 2FA QR code does not have the required white space border around it, also known as the quiet zone. I had to save your QR code and open it on a white background before my phone could scan it.

Try it like this:


Hi there Dabs Smiley Thank you so much for the suggestion. We got your point, we will change the provably fair method as soon as possible (it's already fixed. the previous method doesn't mean that it isn't fair, but Dab's method is certainly better, thanks Dabs!). For the QR Code Actually it can be scanned, but we agree that it is quite difficult at the moment (fixed too).
38  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 13, 2014, 04:11:50 AM
how about you add faucet for a few days so we can test the site Smiley
Faucet is important so that we can try the site out.

The site allows 0 bets so faucet is not really required. You can try the bets with 0 amount if you just want to see how betting works.

P.S I like the design of the site. Looks fresh and clean. I would add a small box around "Roll Low" similar to the betting areas. Would make it easier to find as its a rather important feature so highlighting it would be a nice touch.

Thanks for the suggestion! Do you mean to move the roll button? Because it is already there in the bottom-left. We will consider this.

very nice went to 0.15 + from a deposit of 0.01 Cheesy also received bits to my wallet Cheesy https://blockchain.info/tx/103e758981028d0acf21a6d9bd891d4ed21c462e2e465470352fbf9c4c90c043

Congrats! I guess you are player-57 then. That's 15 times multiplier, maybe you can share your strategy to other people? Wink

Very very nice site. I am jelly.

Thanks.. Jelly? Shocked

how about you add faucet for a few days so we can test the site Smiley
Faucet is important so that we can try the site out.

faucet invites bot users thus makes the site slower and some beggars that spam.

Thanks for the input Seketsuna, this is also our consideration.
39  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 12, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
how about you add faucet for a few days so we can test the site Smiley
Faucet is important so that we can try the site out.

Thanks for the suggestion Big and Clint, we don't have a plan to include faucet to the site at the moment. We might substitute it with occasional giveaway event in near future Smiley

Why anonym, how many devs in team?


Hi there RoooooR, If you mean the anonymous registration feature, it is provided for the players' convenience. If you refer to the devs, it is because the nature of gambling in cryptocurrency, as this is quite a grey area, it would be best for the devs to stay anonymous. Hopefully this is understandable. Our team currently, consists of less than 5 persons, with only one person handling the server area.
40  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SafeDice.com - 1% House Edge | Optional Variable Edge | Investment on: November 12, 2014, 11:44:50 AM
If you were here and saw what happened to the sites that dooglus was advertising. You will have an idea what stunna's answer would be

We saw what happened here and we are really sorry for those who are affected by recent DN and DB cases. Those cases hurt the community and also put us into an uncomfortable situation. It's understandable that people will try to compare us with our predecessor's action. However, with or without SafeDice, new dice sites will keep on coming, some of them might be bad, and some might be good. As we know casino business is a lucrative investment. We know in our heart that our mission is to run a sustainable and profitable business. With this mission hopefully we can be one of the safest choice for people to play and invest (without judging that there will be a new site with bad intention, of course). Our current strategy is to let people to decide. If not now, maybe few days, weeks and months later people will learn which site has good intention and capability.
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