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November 13, 2014, 08:47:40 AM
Last edit: November 13, 2014, 02:37:44 PM by Sam.Walton
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So... SD? People will get confused between SatoshiDice and SafeDice... Oh well.

The game looks like my iPad mini with the gradient colors.

However, the server seed is NOT shown BEFORE I am allowed to set my client or account seed. To be truly provably fair, you must show the server seed hash, and then allow the player to set their account seed.

Your 2FA QR code does not have the required white space border around it, also known as the quiet zone. I had to save your QR code and open it on a white background before my phone could scan it.

Try it like this:
http://qreateandtrack.com/files/2011/07/quarter_inch_image1.png

Hi there Dabs Smiley Thank you so much for the suggestion. We got your point, we will change the provably fair method as soon as possible (it's already fixed. the previous method doesn't mean that it isn't fair, but Dab's method is certainly better, thanks Dabs!). For the QR Code Actually it can be scanned, but we agree that it is quite difficult at the moment (fixed too).
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November 13, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
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The design of your site is great and pretty original IMO. Smiley

On the withdraw page, there is a line "All your deposits must receive enough confirmations before you are allowed to withdraw." I would suggest you to specify exactly how many confirmations are required.
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November 13, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
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The design of your site is great and pretty original IMO. Smiley

On the withdraw page, there is a line "All your deposits must receive enough confirmations before you are allowed to withdraw." I would suggest you to specify exactly how many confirmations are required.

Hi Chemistry,

Thanks for testing the site, confirmations required depends on the deposit amount, we've specified it on the FAQ page: https://safedice.com/faq


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Withdrawal in SafeDice is instant. However, all your deposits must receive enough confirmations before you are allowed to withdraw. Minimum number of confirmations required is the number of digits in the integer part of square of your deposit amount. For example 2 coins deposit needs 1 confirmation (2 x 2 = 4) while 10 coins needs 3 confirmations (10 x 10 = 100).
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November 13, 2014, 01:33:29 PM
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so shiny & futuristic site  Shocked
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November 13, 2014, 01:56:21 PM
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Looks very cool, I will definitely try it out.
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November 13, 2014, 02:14:27 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2014, 02:36:57 PM by Sam.Walton
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So... SD? People will get confused between SatoshiDice and SafeDice... Oh well.

The game looks like my iPad mini with the gradient colors.

However, the server seed is NOT shown BEFORE I am allowed to set my client or account seed. To be truly provably fair, you must show the server seed hash, and then allow the player to set their account seed.

Your 2FA QR code does not have the required white space border around it, also known as the quiet zone. I had to save your QR code and open it on a white background before my phone could scan it.

Try it like this:
http://qreateandtrack.com/files/2011/07/quarter_inch_image1.png

Hi there Dabs Smiley Thank you so much for the suggestion. We got your point, we will change those as soon as possible, both the fair calculation and QR code border. Actually it can be scanned, but we agree that it is quite difficult at the moment.

Hi Dabs, the fair calculation has been modified so it shows the server seed hash before the player able to set his account seed. We are now using the similar way JD has been using back then. Actually just to confirm, the previous method still doesn't allow the site to modify the bet along the way, although I just realized that it enables the site to set the server seed based on the player's behavior (but still the most beneficial way for the site itself is pure random). However, thanks for pointing this out.

We have also fixed the QR code visualization and adding 1X quiet zone (as suggested on https://qrworld.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/the-quiet-zone/). Thanks again Dabs!

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And I think this site will be famous as PD

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Looks very cool, I will definitely try it out.

Thank you so much for the appreciation guys! @lontong, thanks for the suggestion as well, we'll discuss that on our development plan
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November 13, 2014, 03:02:20 PM
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The password field on the login form has a max length of 15 characters. I assume this is a mistake and means that people with a longer password cannot login atm.

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November 13, 2014, 03:31:34 PM
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Yeah, I am account number 69, and I can't log in with my 32 character password anymore.

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November 13, 2014, 03:34:24 PM
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The password field on the login form has a max length of 15 characters. I assume this is a mistake and means that people with a longer password cannot login atm.

Yeah, I am account number 69, and I can't log in with my 32 character password anymore.

Sorry for the inconvenience, we just made few changes on the validation and it got affected. You can try again now Smiley
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November 13, 2014, 06:11:09 PM
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The password field on the login form has a max length of 15 characters. I assume this is a mistake and means that people with a longer password cannot login atm.

Yeah, I am account number 69, and I can't log in with my 32 character password anymore.

Sorry for the inconvenience, we just made few changes on the validation and it got affected. You can try again now Smiley

guess ur chinese, the languages listed only english and chinese, layout pretty good, u need more advertising push i believe, and i just found out this today

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November 13, 2014, 06:57:09 PM
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guess ur chinese, the languages listed only english and chinese, layout pretty good, u need more advertising push i believe, and i just found out this today

The Chinese flag is right, but the English flag isn't. That looks like the USA flag, not the English one.

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November 13, 2014, 07:32:07 PM
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November 13, 2014, 09:19:03 PM
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I tried experimenting with the variable house edge, checking out what chance it would give me of doubling 1 BTC or 2 BTC.

After a while things stopped updating.

I checked the console and saw errors:



What's the maximum house edge? I didn't see it go above 3%, which presumably means you can profit by 1.5% of the 10 BTC backroll, or 0.15 BTC. Maybe that's what caused the crash.

Also, if I'm trying to edit a stake of 0.001 to 0.002, I go to the end, backspace over the '1', the site notices that the 0.00 left in the box is just 0, so replaces it with '0'. Then I type the 2, and I'm betting 2, not 0.002.

The site shouldn't try to be so clever - it shouldn't try to edit the same box I'm currently editing. I should be able to go to the end of 0.001, hit backspace then type a '2' and then see "0.002" in the box, not just "02".

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November 13, 2014, 10:46:11 PM
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Nice work, welcome on board  Wink
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November 13, 2014, 11:09:04 PM
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Not a bad site, other than the fact that its another dice site  Wink
 I would suggest against a referral system. People will just refer themselves to make a rakeback of what they lose/win.



Wish you luck on your venture! This could be a huge success if you make the right marketing moves and such.
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November 14, 2014, 12:48:30 AM
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guess ur chinese, the languages listed only english and chinese, layout pretty good, u need more advertising push i believe, and i just found out this today

The Chinese flag is right, but the English flag isn't. That looks like the USA flag, not the English one.

Sorry for the confusion Doog, it was meant as American English, but I realized that it is not common and just changed as suggested.

Impressive job. Minor nitpick, on the splash page you should fill probably prefill the input box with the attribute placeholder="player" instead of: value="player"

Thanks Rhavar! We did it on intention because it is an alias (optional), so people can just left it with default value.

I tried experimenting with the variable house edge, checking out what chance it would give me of doubling 1 BTC or 2 BTC.

After a while things stopped updating.

I checked the console and saw errors:

https://i.imgur.com/Kf7MU8S.png

What's the maximum house edge? I didn't see it go above 3%, which presumably means you can profit by 1.5% of the 10 BTC backroll, or 0.15 BTC. Maybe that's what caused the crash.

Also, if I'm trying to edit a stake of 0.001 to 0.002, I go to the end, backspace over the '1', the site notices that the 0.00 left in the box is just 0, so replaces it with '0'. Then I type the 2, and I'm betting 2, not 0.002.

The site shouldn't try to be so clever - it shouldn't try to edit the same box I'm currently editing. I should be able to go to the end of 0.001, hit backspace then type a '2' and then see "0.002" in the box, not just "02".

Thank you so much for the catch Doog! We just fixed both glitches you mentioned Smiley. We also notice the same happen for Win Chance and Payout box, we'll look into this soon.

Nice work, welcome on board  Wink

Hello fellow op! Good luck for both of us Smiley

Not a bad site, other than the fact that its another dice site  Wink
 I would suggest against a referral system. People will just refer themselves to make a rakeback of what they lose/win.



Wish you luck on your venture! This could be a huge success if you make the right marketing moves and such.

Thanks for the advice Mist, will note it Smiley
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November 14, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
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Want to share my bets with you guys.
I can say its good and secure site, i have recieved my winnings in few seconds, I hope they will stay at the same and try too improve the site more and more, it will become one of the best im sure.

good luck

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November 14, 2014, 04:42:41 AM
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LOL another dice site , well good luck !

I would love to play there if i have luck Wink
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November 14, 2014, 06:19:44 AM
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Want to share my bets with you guys.
I can say its good and secure site, i have recieved my winnings in few seconds, I hope they will stay at the same and try too improve the site more and more, it will become one of the best im sure.

good luck

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LOL another dice site , well good luck !

I would love to play there if i have luck Wink

Thank you guys! We will do our best to improve the site, of course  Smiley
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November 14, 2014, 07:38:48 AM
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What's the maximum house edge? I didn't see it go above 3%, which presumably means you can profit by 1.5% of the 10 BTC backroll, or 0.15 BTC. Maybe that's what caused the crash.

Thank you so much for the catch Doog! We just fixed both glitches you mentioned Smiley

You missed the point about the maximum house edge. It looks like I can attempt to win 20 BTC by betting 20 BTC with a 48.5% chance. That's only a 3% house edge, when I'm trying to win over 100% of the bankroll.

Also, why would you only adjust the house edge in whole percentages? It would make sense to offer the exact "right" edge. If I'm trying to win 10% of the bankroll, make the house edge 20%, if I'm trying to win 10.001% of it, make the edge 20.002%, etc.

You could consider going lower than 1% too, for small bets. Then you'd have a real unique feature to boast about!

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