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Hello,
For those who remember, I was a former volunteer dev / proj mgr / comm mgr for Cinni. Please allow me to clear the FUD on rynomster's name (as this was brought to my attention by trolls posting in XC's thread).
Rynomster came to help Cinni with it's encrypted messaging system (per a bounty). After this work was finished, he himself decided to not continue on with Cinni (for his own reasons, which frankly should not matter). His contribution towards the Cinni project started on good terms, and he left Cinni project on good terms -- as far as the dev team was concerned.
As for the issue related to Cinni PoS, I can verify that rynomster did indeed email fixes to the PoS code to cinnidev. And to my knowledge, cinnidev committed them (however, if cinnidev truly committed them will need to be verified by cinnidev / rynomster). Now, whether or not rynomsters fixes corrected absolutely every issue with Cinni's PoS, I cannot answer -- but I do know that rynomster emailed fixes on the PoS code.
Nevertheless -- why are we attacking rynomster? If you are going to call him a liar, then you will have to call both myself and cinnidev liars. But let me ask you -- who else would know the facts better than the dev team? Cinnidev likewise can and should confirm everything that I have said. Anyone who says anything contrary to the facts that I have just stated is a liar, or is ignorant to what actually happened.
Again, rynomster was offered a bounty to build encrypted messaging for Cinni -- this he did in a successful and timely manner. Once this work was completed, he was by no means obligated to continue developing for Cinni. Even Cinni's PoS issue he was not obligated to look at or fix, but he was kind enough to. Please refrain from attacking him, his character, or his new coin.
battbot
THE DEV OF CINNICOIN CONFIRMED THIS POST.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg8513205#msg8513205Who cares what CINNIcoin dev says - he is a passive, non-existent, non-dev "dev" who seems to have decided to allow CINNI to die, whatever his reasons. Don't care about him or give any weight to his words. My post is a direct copy of battbot and rynomster's own words with a clear chronology. For all I know, Cinnicoin is in bed with these guys, figuratively speaking. When you get out of diapers you will realize the world is a little more complex than you see it now. Situations change with time. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8142514#msg8142514"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."-rynomster |
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Too many words.You can give us a brife version.I think not many people will look through the whole posts.
TDLR: Battbot and Rynomster are trying to whitewash the past. They're claiming that they left Cinnicoin in good faith with no obligation to deliver anon tech (that later showed up in rynomster's new Shadowcoin project). The truth is that before they left CINNI they spent weeks hyping development of this anon tech to the CINNI community. Basically, they misled the community into thinking they were developing unique anon tech for CINNI -- 100% decentralised, trustless -- while likely dumping their CINNI portfolios (every attempt the coin made at a rally was dumped on) before both suddenly departed around the same time for "personal"/"family" reasons. Weeks later, the tech turns up in rynomster's new coin Shadowcoin. Don't care about that anymore, but I do care that battbot (and to a lesser extent rynomster either directly or through his proxies) are trying to whitewash this history. I think anyone who deals with these guys going forward should be informed about this history - and in their own words. Hope that was brief enough. See CINNI thread for more sordid details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.5260It's all there - err, until they delete it, but they cant delete copies and "Re:" responses to those posts and references to their usernames by others. Others can come to their own judgements about their character after reading their words - before and since their departures from CINNI, including their current round of attempted (and utterly failed) whitewashing. I was an investor in CINNI at the time. The anon tech proposal was a node based system with onion routing (check the white paper). SDC has a stealth address system....nothing even close to similar. At least try to figure out what you are talking about before you make an idiot of yourself.As posted in CINNI thread, UTClover had 1/2 the coins of CINNI. He sold them off and EVERYONE else lost money. |
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Hello,
For those who remember, I was a former volunteer dev / proj mgr / comm mgr for Cinni. Please allow me to clear the FUD on rynomster's name (as this was brought to my attention by trolls posting in XC's thread).
Rynomster came to help Cinni with it's encrypted messaging system (per a bounty). After this work was finished, he himself decided to not continue on with Cinni (for his own reasons, which frankly should not matter). His contribution towards the Cinni project started on good terms, and he left Cinni project on good terms -- as far as the dev team was concerned.
As for the issue related to Cinni PoS, I can verify that rynomster did indeed email fixes to the PoS code to cinnidev. And to my knowledge, cinnidev committed them (however, if cinnidev truly committed them will need to be verified by cinnidev / rynomster). Now, whether or not rynomsters fixes corrected absolutely every issue with Cinni's PoS, I cannot answer -- but I do know that rynomster emailed fixes on the PoS code.
Nevertheless -- why are we attacking rynomster? If you are going to call him a liar, then you will have to call both myself and cinnidev liars. But let me ask you -- who else would know the facts better than the dev team? Cinnidev likewise can and should confirm everything that I have said. Anyone who says anything contrary to the facts that I have just stated is a liar, or is ignorant to what actually happened.
Again, rynomster was offered a bounty to build encrypted messaging for Cinni -- this he did in a successful and timely manner. Once this work was completed, he was by no means obligated to continue developing for Cinni. Even Cinni's PoS issue he was not obligated to look at or fix, but he was kind enough to. Please refrain from attacking him, his character, or his new coin.
battbot
THE DEV OF CINNICOIN CONFIRMED THIS POST IS ACCURATE.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg8513205#msg8513205 |
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Cinnicoin Trolls - stop the smear campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8142514#msg8142514"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."-rynomster Situations change as time passes. It's pretty clear to almost everyone that Rynomster was not in control of the development path at CINNI because he was not the original dev. He probably had ideas not in line with the CINNI dev so he made his own coin....there is no problem with that. It is time you give the man the respect he deserves. The ShadowCoin EM and Stealth projects are open source, you can check for yourself that the code is original. Use the ShadowCoin EM and stealth system, or the full feature staking android and iOS wallets, you will see they work flawlessly. Time for you trolls to respect a real developer and stop this smear campaign. The OP is being dishonest in the way he constructed this "history". The OP is attempting to implicate rynomster by using quotes from battbot.You have constructed the OP in attempt to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is called a guilt by association fallacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.
You included rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to slander him.
List the dishonest quotes from rynomster or stop attacking his character.
You clearly dont care at all about honesty or you would not play these games. Im sure this will be abundantly clear to anyone reading these posts.
^ Read here, the OP is a proven lier and slanderous with no cause.
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Hello, For those who remember, I was a former volunteer dev / proj mgr / comm mgr for Cinni. Please allow me to clear the FUD on rynomster's name (as this was brought to my attention by trolls posting in XC's thread). Rynomster came to help Cinni with it's encrypted messaging system (per a bounty). After this work was finished, he himself decided to not continue on with Cinni (for his own reasons, which frankly should not matter). His contribution towards the Cinni project started on good terms, and he left Cinni project on good terms -- as far as the dev team was concerned. As for the issue related to Cinni PoS, I can verify that rynomster did indeed email fixes to the PoS code to cinnidev. And to my knowledge, cinnidev committed them (however, if cinnidev truly committed them will need to be verified by cinnidev / rynomster). Now, whether or not rynomsters fixes corrected absolutely every issue with Cinni's PoS, I cannot answer -- but I do know that rynomster emailed fixes on the PoS code. Nevertheless -- why are we attacking rynomster? If you are going to call him a liar, then you will have to call both myself and cinnidev liars. But let me ask you -- who else would know the facts better than the dev team? Cinnidev likewise can and should confirm everything that I have said. Anyone who says anything contrary to the facts that I have just stated is a liar, or is ignorant to what actually happened. Again, rynomster was offered a bounty to build encrypted messaging for Cinni -- this he did in a successful and timely manner. Once this work was completed, he was by no means obligated to continue developing for Cinni. Even Cinni's PoS issue he was not obligated to look at or fix, but he was kind enough to. Please refrain from attacking him, his character, or his new coin. battbot Also posted on Cinni's thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg8506287#msg8506287-snip FUD from Sr. member "digit" You are a whole new brand of idiot Sr. Member "digit". The dev of SDC does not owe your FUD a response. THE DEV OF CINNICOIN CONFIRMED RYNOMSTER FIXED A CINNICOIN STAKING BUG AT THE TIME OF THE CINNI EM RELEASE.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg8513205#msg8513205Get the fuck off this forum. Whoever is in charge of keeping this forum clean, please send this trash back to the shitcoin thread. |
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Beware ShadowCoin (SDC), the developer is the same Rynomster disappeared "for family reasons" for Cinni leaving everyone in the lurch and the currency problems stake.
Enough of both DEV swindler who are killing trade in altcoins !!
Give it up cinnitroll....and get off this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8142514#msg8142514"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."-rynomster You are a child with a newbie account... |
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Beware ShadowCoin (SDC), the developer is the same Rynomster disappeared "for family reasons" for Cinni leaving everyone in the lurch and the currency problems stake.
Enough of both DEV swindler who are killing trade in altcoins !!
Give it up cinnitroll....and get off this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8142514#msg8142514"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."-rynomster You are a child with a newbie account... |
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Beware ShadowCoin (SDC), the developer is the same Rynomster disappeared "for family reasons" for Cinni leaving everyone in the lurch and the currency problems stake.
Enough of both DEV swindler who are killing trade in altcoins !!
Give it up cinnitroll....and get off this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8142514#msg8142514"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."-rynomster You are such a child. Just buy some SDC. |
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Beware ShadowCoin (SDC), the developer is the same Rynomster disappeared "for family reasons" for Cinni leaving everyone in the lurch and the currency problems stake.
Enough of both DEV swindler who are killing trade in altcoins !!
Give it up cinnitroll....and get off this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8142514#msg8142514"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."-rynomster |
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Cinnicoin Trolls https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8142514#msg8142514"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."-rynomster CinniCoin code has many, many bugs. Rynomster fixed one of the major wallet based staking bugs, but many remain. Even Rat4 tried to fix cinnicoin code and was unable to fix all the bugs. As anyone that owned Cinni at the time knows, there was a major wallet based staking bug that Rynomster fixed with the release of EM (ask cinnicoin or Battbot). However just like when Rat4 "fixed" the cinni code, there are still a lot of bugs that remain in the cinnicoin code. You trolls need to remember that Rynomster was not the Cinnicoin dev and not paid to fix the staking issue, he fixed the one issue to help out the community. Maybe Rynomster left to implement his innovations on another coin BECAUSE the cinni code is garbage. Bitmessage is VERY buggy, inconsistent, does not support rich text (last I checked) and is not instant messaging. The SDC messaging system is far superior to Bitmessage or the Cinni EM system. Use the SDC system and check the code before you comment. It is time you give the man the respect he deserves. The EM and Stealth projects are open source, you can check for yourself that the code is original. Use the EM and stealth system, or the full feature staking android/iOS wallets and you will see they work flawlessly. Time for you trolls to respect a real developer and go back to your shit coins where there is actually something to FUD about.
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-snipFUD Ryno does not list C++ as a language he program.  just dba/web/mobile Why is this? Evryone here say Ryno is mad coin coder. WTF? looked at any of the SDC code? it is clear that Ryno can code c++ very well...amongst other things. ""
Also what came to my attention is that this devs work is very clean
he seems to be one of the few coin devs who knows how the git branching system works and makes good use of it as it should be done.
keep up the great work sdcdev!
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who was the stupid MOFO who just dumped 35k on me lol...lol up to 85k now thank you  damn lucky, this coin is the next big thing to happen to mobile phones. Just wait for lite mode and zk-snarks i think we have to wait september for these features, right? september is just around the corner, would rather it work and be done right then rushed out and not work. ...I don't think that a rush job is a concern. Chill out i was just saying September is not a bad time frame for a working product i was not implying that SDC releases untested or anything, i'm very happy with my investment and the progress being made. i have put a substantial amount of BTC into it the last few days i wouldn't if i had concerns. ok..i was just pointing out the fact. we still have staking lite wallet coming and who knows what else is on the way along with zk-snarks (zerocash). |
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who was the stupid MOFO who just dumped 35k on me lol...lol up to 85k now thank you damn lucky, this coin is the next big thing to happen to mobile phones. Just wait for lite mode and zk-snarks i think we have to wait september for these features, right? september is just around the corner, would rather it work and be done right then rushed out and not work. ...A rush job is not a concern. |
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Ryno claims to have fixed a problem when the reality is that created one worse.
It's just ... I've seen this so many times that it bores me.
When someone says the truth is always uncomfortable labeled a troll, the penalty is that after a while people regrets not hearing them.
Good luck ... you require the ...
CinniCoin coin code has many, many bugs. Even Rat4 tried to fix cinnicoin code and was unable to fix all the bugs. As anyone that owned Cinni at the time knows, there was a major wallet based staking bug that Rynomster fixed with the release of EM (ask cinnicoin or Battbot). However just like when Rat4 "fixed" the cinni code, there are still a lot of bugs that remain in the cinnicoin code. It is time you give the man the respect he deserves. The EM and Stealth projects are open source, you can check for yourself that the code is original. Use the EM and stealth system, or use the full feature staking android/iOS wallets and you will see they work flawlessly. You are labeled trolls because you knowlingly spread Bull Shit. |
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LXC dev is talking shit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703042.msg8458597#msg8458597What a joke. There is absolutely no comparison between LXC and SDC. Has anyone read the PoD? LXC dev does not even know how to code... he has to outsource. Rynomster on the other hand, developed crypto's first p2p encrypted messaging system. To compare LXC to SDC is a joke. Not to mention LXC's android wallet does not even stake. Get your facts right, its not cryptos first p2p EM system. Bitmessage is cryptos first and most widely accepted and has been around longer (since 2013) and is more functional and tested and not being used to pump the value of a coupled altcoin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitmessagehttps://bitmessage.org/Daniel Cawrey (2013-06-03) : http://www.coindesk.com/bitmessage-is-the-bitcoin-of-online-communication/-snip FUD Ryno has worked with Cinnicoin. He has stated that he fixed their staking bug, as well as helping to write the encrypted messaging framework. Ryno is the only one with access to the GitHub repository and has attached a screenshot of being logged in. - Bitmessage is VERY buggy, inconsistent and is not instant messaging. The SDC messaging system is far superior to Bitmessage or the Cinni EM system. Use the SDC system and check the code before you comment. Second - CinniCoin code has many, many bugs. Even Rat4 tried to fix cinnicoin code and was unable to fix all the bugs. As anyone that owned Cinni at the time knows, there was a major wallet based staking bug that Rynomster fixed with the release of EM (ask cinnicoin or Battbot). However just like when Rat4 "fixed" the cinni code, there are still a lot of bugs that remain in the cinnicoin code. It is time you give the man the respect he deserves. The EM and Stealth projects are open source, you can check for yourself that the code is original. Use the EM and stealth system, or the full feature staking android/iOS wallets and you will see they work flawlessly. Time for you trolls to respect a real developer and go back to your shit coins where there is actually something to FUD about. |
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stop quoting him and put him on ignore like the rest of us. Added you to ignore list also since you re-quote trolls.
(^^pulled form the DRK thread) Check out bigc's post history, dude is a darkcoin troll.. Lulz. Nothing but ass to mouth syndrome leaking all over bitcointalk. He's quick to defend his Darkcoin investment from trolls but has no issues spreading FUD anywhere else.. I sold that shit punk, made mad loot too. At least darkcoin didn't have backdoors in the source code. ;/ So again, unless you can substantiate your findings of this "backdoor in the source code" then we are going to petition the op to remove your posts because they are clutter and pointless you need to take your psych meds, ok? Just calm down. Censorship is not going to help your coin grow. Besides, I've studied when the dev is active and right now he is asleep so if he deletes my posts when he wakes up, ill just come back tomorrow night and repost them while hes sleeping again. bigc1984 -This user is a scammer. He has a scam coin that he does not like being called out on. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=738534.msg8478964#msg8478964 |
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DevCoder:"It is the same copy/paste coin "dev". If you want to be scammed than this message is not for you. This message is for the people who show up here and do not want to be scammed."
@DevCoder Meanwhile you are potentially scamming all the people here that are mining this coin, or paying for hash power, on this potentially legit coin that you have absolutely no proof is a scam. So what does that make you? I'd say just as good as a scammer.
If you don't like scammers, just go away and stop scamming us out of OUR BTC. You are obviously doing more harm than good! BTW, this guy is the same guy as "ItsNotMe" from the NM thread. He's a ShadowCoin bagholder/fanboy gone mad. Who now goes rampaging on all other coins that could steal away the limelight from his precious SDC.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=352729 Says brand new account that is actually on the scam team with the dev. Nice Try! Yeah? So what if i'm a new account. All new accounts are on the dev team.. lol You are seriously delusional... Try getting some more sleep. And maybe baghold a little less, and you might just get your sanity back! I made a new account specifically to argue with you. I usually don't post on bitcointalk, and have seen you on a lot of the coins i've mined lately, and would just like you to stop, as you are scamming me, and many other out of their BTC. Nevertheless, you can't argue with the FACTS that i pointed out above. Dev team or not. So go away and stop scamming honest people out of their hard earned BTC. Cause that's what you are doing to us! Dev...you have some nerve. You are a peice of shit scammer and thief and you hate that several of us have figured out your pattern. You GTFO of crypto. I am right about this scam coin just like I was right about your other scam NightmareCoin. Look at NM now, its the same place this coin will be in two weeks... no dev and no value.Look, if you haven't realized by now, alt-crypto is one BIG scam. Full of pump and dumps etc. Do you really think ShadowCoin or any of these coins will ever come close to what Bitcoin has become? The answer is NO. All of these coins are unfortunately get rich quick schemes, aka pump and dumps. And just like real life pump and dumps, if someone came along and started screaming "it's a scam". All the people involved in the get rich quick scheme would lose money. So what you need to do is stop thinking all the coins that you baghold will someday replace Bitcoin.. or even come close! And stop being in denial, and accept alt-crypto for what it is.. One giant scam! A get rich quick scheme! A pump and dump! And you will never be able to stop it! Once you can accept that fact, either jump on the train and make some BTC.(which is what we are doing) Or leave the scene and go somewhere else! Because the only people that will ever even be able to come close to stopping this, is the governments of the world. Goodbye  "Once you can accept that fact, either jump on the train and make some BTC.( which is what we are doing)" ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ HaHa! Caught again. |
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Maybe this is a scam [/size][/color]   Just apply for account to defend himself. This is not his hit his face? Stupid DEV! What a dumb scammer...Jesus Christ he is slopy.
Cryptoasian is heavily involved with @iconicexpert and they've been pumping coins together manipulating markets, scamming fools just like you.
Little tip for everyone who is backing this coins because of cryptoscammer, Iconic expert is using Cryptoasian to fund scam coins like AXRON and many others that got "verified." Filter through the bullshit and wake up STOP SUPPORTING SHIT SCAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU WILL SOON SEE, TIME WILL EXPOSE THE LIARS CHEATERS AND SCAMMERS You're probably one of those people that believes in conspiracy theories. I am surprised I've lowered myself to your level. I went to college and got an engenieering degree, then got a masters degree and I run my own software company, while being a full time dad. You and your newbie friends need to find other coins to spam, Axron is not going anywhere and the community doesn't seem to hear you out. You want to play games? Show your face, FULL NAME , PROOF of who you are. I did it, why don't you? Hiding behind a screen, maybe you're the one thats trying to scam people. None of the people pointing out your scam are attempting to scam BTC out of people like you are so why do we need to "show face"...nice try. This "offence is best defence" BS won't work either....time to move on to next coin like you did with NightmareCoin. Funny thing "Axron is not going anywhere and the community doesn't seem to hear you out." is word for word what you said on NightmareCoin. |
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DevCoder:"It is the same copy/paste coin "dev". If you want to be scammed than this message is not for you. This message is for the people who show up here and do not want to be scammed."
@DevCoder Meanwhile you are potentially scamming all the people here that are mining this coin, or paying for hash power, on this potentially legit coin that you have absolutely no proof is a scam. So what does that make you? I'd say just as good as a scammer.
If you don't like scammers, just go away and stop scamming us out of OUR BTC. You are obviously doing more harm than good! BTW, this guy is the same guy as "ItsNotMe" from the NM thread. He's a ShadowCoin bagholder/fanboy gone mad. Who now goes rampaging on all other coins that could steal away the limelight from his precious SDC. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=352729 Says brand new account that is actually on the scam team with the dev. Nice Try! Yeah? So what if i'm a new account. All new accounts are on the dev team.. lol You are seriously delusional... Try getting some more sleep. And maybe baghold a little less, and you might just get your sanity back! I made a new account specifically to argue with you. I usually don't post on bitcointalk, and have seen you on a lot of the coins i've mined lately, and would just like you to stop, as you are scamming me, and many other out of their BTC. Nevertheless, you can't argue with the FACTS that i pointed out above. Dev team or not. So go away and stop scamming honest people out of their hard earned BTC. Cause that's what you are doing to us! I was told by other members NOT to waste time on users like DEVCODER. Crypto Cartel? You have some nerve man. Cartels are serious problems for society, and a lot of families suffer because of them, so use your words carefully. The only account linked to Project Axron is my account. "I was told by other members NOT to waste time on users like DEVCODER." ...so I created a new account to support my bullshit scam."Cartels are serious problems for society, and a lot of families suffer because of them" ...the high road won't work for you here. You stealing and scamming hurts people also. |
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DevCoder:"It is the same copy/paste coin "dev". If you want to be scammed than this message is not for you. This message is for the people who show up here and do not want to be scammed."
@DevCoder Meanwhile you are potentially scamming all the people here that are mining this coin, or paying for hash power, on this potentially legit coin that you have absolutely no proof is a scam. So what does that make you? I'd say just as good as a scammer.
If you don't like scammers, just go away and stop scamming us out of OUR BTC. You are obviously doing more harm than good! BTW, this guy is the same guy as "ItsNotMe" from the NM thread. He's a ShadowCoin bagholder/fanboy gone mad. Who now goes rampaging on all other coins that could steal away the limelight from his precious SDC. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=352729 Says brand new account that is actually on the scam team with the dev. Nice Try! Yeah? So what if i'm a new account. All new accounts are on the dev team.. lol You are seriously delusional... Try getting some more sleep. And maybe baghold a little less, and you might just get your sanity back! I made a new account specifically to argue with you. I usually don't post on bitcointalk, and have seen you on a lot of the coins i've mined lately, and would just like you to stop, as you are scamming me, and many other out of their BTC. Nevertheless, you can't argue with the FACTS that i pointed out above. Dev team or not. So go away and stop scamming honest people out of their hard earned BTC. Cause that's what you are doing to us! Dev...you have some nerve. You are a peice of shit scammer and thief and you hate that several of us have figured out your pattern. You GTFO of crypto. I am right about this scam coin just like I was right about your other scam NightmareCoin. Look at NM now, its the same place this coin will be in two weeks... no dev and no value. |
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