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That is not fucking proof. You could have made that details up. We have no way to prove that LR accounting system really said that.
oh my god . don't be idiot. Calling me an idiot while NOT showing why I am wrong does not help your case. You can check transactions at https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/services/search |
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Thats why I am going to go to court Ok. Great. No need to continue posting then, right? You don't see he is lying?! He saying that I hacked his website and put 45 000 USD to my account, I giving you proof that I was depositing using liberty reserve, why he run out now? It makes absolutely no sense that mtgox, a member of this community in good standing, would risk his good reputation and his business on the theft of some money. I am trying to protect other peoples from loses. |
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You don't see he is lying?! He saying that I hacked his website and put 45 000 USD to my account, I giving you proof that I was depositing using liberty reserve, why he run out now?
That is not fucking proof. You could have made that details up. We have no way to prove that LR accounting system really said that. oh my god . don't be idiot. |
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All these details are unprovable from the outsiders point of view. We cannot prove anything what Baron, or even MtGox said is true.
Thats why I am going to go to court |
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All these details are unprovable from the outsiders point of view. We cannot prove anything what Baron, or even MtGox said is true.
You don't see he is lying?! He saying that I hacked his website and put 45 000 USD to my account, I giving you proof that I was depositing using liberty reserve, why he run out now? |
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Baron, at the least, tell us your nationality.
I don't going to reval any other info that is not conected to case. |
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so WHERE is mtgox.com he run out again to fabricate something new?
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I said I have in mtgox.com accout 45 000 LRUSD blocked. I never said how much I deposited.
And you didn't told us until now that you have those "proof"? * kiba is confused. Of course I have proof, nobody was asking. |
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Why he don't going to police?
why he starts asking only after month?
why he refuse to give his contacts?
why he refuse to unblock my account for 1 day,that I can take evidences ?
1. The police can't do anything if you don't provide info where you live. They can't arrest you if you live in another country. 2. Because the account holder notice it 1 month later? 3. There's already contact information on the site itself. 4. I am unaware of how blocking works. 1. The police can't do anything if you don't provide info where you live. They can't arrest you if you live in another country. He must, because police can much more than he.2. Because the account holder notice it 1 month later? mtgox.com says that he received after ~3day from when trade was made3. There's already contact information on the site itself. where , I only see email4. I am unaware of how blocking works. |
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P R O O F
My liberty reserve history:
01/07/2011 02:12 52722343 U8227430 (xMtGox) - $28,616.00 $0.00 $0.61 Hide Merchant Reference: 1336 Memo: MtGox.com Funding
01/07/2011 02:12 52722317 U8227430 (xMtGox) - $30,000.00 $0.00 $28,616.61 Hide Merchant Reference: 1336 Memo: MtGox.com Funding
01/07/2011 01:51 52721818 U8227430 (xMtGox) - $16,000.00 $0.00 $58,616.61 Hide Merchant Reference: 1336 Memo: MtGox.com Funding
He Is lying to you!
You said you deposit 45,000 LRUSD? I said I have in mtgox.com accout 45 000 LRUSD blocked. I never said how much I deposited. |
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How? there is withdraw limit of 1000$ /day
And you'd be 1000 USD richer than before you had access to the account. You must be joking? |
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P R O O F
My liberty reserve history:
01/07/2011 02:12 52722343 U8227430 (xMtGox) - $28,616.00 $0.00 $0.61 Hide Merchant Reference: 1336 Memo: MtGox.com Funding
01/07/2011 02:12 52722317 U8227430 (xMtGox) - $30,000.00 $0.00 $28,616.61 Hide Merchant Reference: 1336 Memo: MtGox.com Funding
01/07/2011 01:51 52721818 U8227430 (xMtGox) - $16,000.00 $0.00 $58,616.61 Hide Merchant Reference: 1336 Memo: MtGox.com Funding
He Is lying to you!
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Why don't yo? I will, and I am going to put mtgox.com to jail.
Might have taken him a while to see the connection, or have it pointed out to him. You realy believe in that?
Because it'd be likely you'd simply take what money you could and run? How? there is withdraw limit of 1000$ /day
Mtgox.com provide us all your evidences
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oh my god.
mtgox.com write:
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DayX: Person B finds an exploit in my LR code and manages to send himself a good deal of LR from the site.
DayY: Person B steals money from 2 other mtgox accounts after compromising them with a dictionary attack. This is discussed elsewhere.
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You mean I hacked your website and not deposited liberty reserve to my mtgox.com account? I can prove you that I was depositing money into your liberty reseve account.
my version:
there not was any "stolen" funds, mtgox.com all this fabricate, why he starts asking only after month?, he trying to steal my 45 000 USD from me. Why he don't going to police?
( because he afraid and can't ). He know how much I have on my mtgox.com account, so he find out that I was on IRC, so he fabricate by sending me "stolen" funds and grab my money.
It's your words versus mtgox. You also didn't prove anything. You also have a tendency to forgot the most important details we need to check the story out. How are we suppose to believe you when it's impossible to check if your story is true?
why he starts asking only after month?
why he refuse to give his contacts?
why he refuse to unblock my account for 1 day,that I can take evidences ?I have all trasactions number , when I was depositing money using liberty reserve ( more than 45 000 USD ) to mtgox.com, I can PROOVE THAT |
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oh my god.
mtgox.com write:
"
DayX: Person B finds an exploit in my LR code and manages to send himself a good deal of LR from the site.
DayY: Person B steals money from 2 other mtgox accounts after compromising them with a dictionary attack. This is discussed elsewhere.
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You mean I hacked your website and not deposited liberty reserve to my mtgox.com account? I can prove you that I was depositing money into your liberty reseve account.
my version:
there not was any "stolen" funds, mtgox.com all this fabricate, why he starts asking only after month?, he trying to steal my 45 000 USD from me. Why he don't going to police?
( because he afraid and can't ). He know how much I have on my mtgox.com account, so he find out that I was on IRC, so he fabricate by sending me "stolen" funds and grab my money.
I am asking from mtgox.com:
Provide me his contact detalis.
How he operates as corporation or as indivdual person?
I requesting to unblock my mtgox.com account for 1 day, I want make screenshots of my mtgox.com account, as a proof, what in that account is.
provide me your financial services and markets License.
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God, this thread is still going on? Amazing.
Start to wonder a bit what's the purpose of have this discussed in a forum... Baron isn't clearly a "big player", otherwise mtgox would be "sleeping with the fishes" by now. But he comes to this forum to do... what? At best this hurts mtgox's reputation. To an extent that makes all BTC depositors really happy with the dealer, but all USD depositors unrest. A shift in the balance of the market? Is that the aim?  OK. I will do not post any posts anymore because it hurts to mtgox.com reputation.  |
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To everyone: if someone was dealing with mtgox.com by sending/receiving from/to him bankwire , can you please write me private message of where/from you was receiving/sending money, I need contacts. I guarantee, I don't revel to anyone who you are.
I have sent mtgox a bank wire in the past. Why do you need this information? I need contacts of mtgox.com owner. |
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So, if MtGox is individual without agreement and BitCoin's are not money, what do you want from him? You provided him some digits without any contract. He blocked account because he wants. What problems?
your thinking is like scamers. I want mine 45000 USD (libery reserve USD, not bitcoin (BTC) ). can you see difference from BTC and liberty reserve ? |
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Also, i don't like the "judge, jury and executioner" approach shown by mtgox.
In what way has mtgox acted as judge, jury or executioner? He came over a heap of stolen money, and blocked the account while the investigation goes on. Would there be any other sensible thing to do? Any other legal options? If mtgox do something illegal here, like releasing the account with stolen funds before the matter is completely resolved, we are all at risk of loosing everything we have on mtgox. If he has strong , I repeat very strong proof that I am that "thief", so he must go to police and provide that proof to them, and only with police permission he can block money You can read the proof in this thread. It is damning evidence, and mtgox doesn't need more than that to block your account. In most jurisdictions a bank or exchange has to block the account when stolen money get transferred to it. VISA, MasterCard, PayPal and your bank would do the exact same thing without waiting for the police. They are not allowed to let the thief run away with the stolen money. You claim to have lawyers, but I doubt it. But his "proof" that I can't remember nick, chanell details, is not any proof, or fact at all, and every court will refuse to accept it as proof.
You may go on forgetting your own name, it doesn't matter. The story doesn't check out anyway. You made it up, and even changed the story when you got more details about your fictional trade, but it doesn't work. The block chain contains the facts. VISA, mastercard is bank institution, paypal also acts like bank( I don't use paypal, so I can't say about that strong), so there are two different things. They have special law power issued by government, when you agree to use their services, you sign on agreement (that they can block you money, if they see any problems and etc.), I don't see any agreement on mtgox.com website. In this case "mtgox.com" acts like individual(person/corporation), so he is responsible for any loses, anybody may have, by blocking money. To sturle : it's strange for me your strong opinion about all this, without knowing everything. There are many misunderstanding on mtgox.com business. sturle wrote: "You may go on forgetting your own name, it doesn't matter. The story doesn't check out anyway. You made it up, and even changed the story when you got more details about your fictional trade, but it doesn't work. The block chain contains the facts." . As I can see , it was my mistake , That I accepted to tell everything on public. Now everyone interpreted as what they want. In this case mtgox.com was clever , because he don't tell you very much. |
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Also, i don't like the "judge, jury and executioner" approach shown by mtgox.
In what way has mtgox acted as judge, jury or executioner? He came over a heap of stolen money, and blocked the account while the investigation goes on. Would there be any other sensible thing to do? Any other legal options? If mtgox do something illegal here, like releasing the account with stolen funds before the matter is completely resolved, we are all at risk of loosing everything we have on mtgox. If he has strong , I repeat very strong proof that I am that "thief", so he must go to police and provide that proof to them, and only with police permission he can block money, because I have loses when I can't manage my money ( can't trade ), and those loses is growing everyday, in court case I am going to require comensation for that too. But his "proof" that I can't remember nick, chanell details, is not any proof, or fact at all, and every court will refuse to accept it as proof. To everyone: if someone was dealing with mtgox.com by sending/receiving from/to him bankwire , can you please write me private message of where/from you was receiving/sending money, I need contacts. I guarantee, I don't revel to anyone who you are. |
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