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21  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: VGA Dummy for my new cards on: May 26, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
i swear to god ill keep bumping this post till someone tells me what kind of RESISTORS to Buy

its not that hard to put together  clip the end, plug them in, ect ect

What kind of Resistors should one use? 1 watt 100 resistors?

i heard people say 75 ohm or something, what about 100 ohm? or 50 ohm? what the Hell is ohm?

how do you know what to use?

 1/2-watt resistors ?
 1/4-watt resistors ??
 1/8-watt resistors Huh
 1-watt resistors Huh?

Apparently you can't read or use google

75 ohm 1/8w or 1/4w are fine
anything with in 10% of 75ohm will work
22  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: run your miners invisibly only when pc idle (Download here) on: May 26, 2011, 07:25:30 PM
New Version 1.01:
*Made it that only one instance of the program can be active
* add option for  not idle args
* add a option to choose when to active the program idle/non idle/ idle & not idle/ never
* add option to run after X seconds since startup


Because there are so many option , I will be happy if someone can find a bug or something...
Very hard to test every thing...

Donation will be nice : 1GjpJnLU8zdfEHW7FoCx2UUosJgc9prXN4


wipe out

processSWI wont even run
23  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: run your miners invisibly only when pc idle (Download here) on: May 26, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
Huston we have a problem

It doesnt appear to work at start up if nobody is logged in

also starting processswi if you have the hidden checked starts another instance of the program
and does not show that it is already active

No program start until a user is logged in..(I think)

About processswi...
I changed it so that only one instance of the program will be active...
I'm trying to add the idle not idle option and then I'll put it all together  soon

One question , What do you mean about "does not show that it is already active " If you run SWIsetup it does not say that the process is active ?

Or just that processswil does not know that there is a active instance ?

I mean if you check run hidden there is no way to see if it's active
Would be nice if it ran as a service then it really would start when the machine was powered up
and not require some logon

 hope its not just for one person's logon
 if you run a multi logon so each member of the family has a logon
24  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: run your miners invisibly only when pc idle (Download here) on: May 26, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Huston we have a problem

It doesnt appear to work at start up if nobody is logged in

also starting processswi if you have the hidden checked starts another instance of the program
and does not show that it is already active
25  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: BitcoinPool.com open thread on: May 25, 2011, 07:32:21 PM
Could some please tell me what an acceptable efficeincy figure is for this pool? I've just started and I am currently at about 65% and I fear this may be too low.

Is there a way to increase my efficeincy with GUI miner? I know it is recommended to use pheonix but I currently do not have the time or sufficient knowledge to setup this up. I know the information is out there to do it but my keyboard doesn't have a working forward slash key at the moment which makes command lines impossible. I could probably tie it to another key in some way but I dont know how. To find out just further adds to the time issue.

I will eventually move to pheonix as it seems to produce better figures but for now I need to make do with GUI miner.

They say 30% but they are pricks and do what they please
They change their mind as frequently as I take a leak
and now they take half of anyone that they deem by their determination to be pool hopping
so much for FREE ... no fee

FYI spent the $10 and get a keyboard
26  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 25, 2011, 07:22:10 PM
Why would it be a problem if he wasn't doing anything illegal in the first place?

its not a problem in the long run, but the feds busting down your door at 2am can be some scary shit lol, more of an inconvenience.  unknown to most that local police, DEA, and FEDs use IR drones to detect heat signatures and monitor houses power usage to detect grow houses, since lighting uses a lot of electricity to grow pot plants.

you guys need to get a life
stop believing in santa and the sifi fairy
most drug bust's are ratted out info
if it was ir from power usage every factory and most any business would be on the radar

AND this has little to due with the subject at hand
some one doing legitimate business ...In canada ..where the US dea HAS NO AUTHORITY
enough already with this BS
27  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 25, 2011, 07:11:30 PM
Why would it be a problem if he wasn't doing anything illegal in the first place?

It wouldn't
but we have the trolls that seem to have nothing better to do than scan what has been posted adding nothing but drivel just to see their name or say how great they are
There should be a special twit thread just for the KIDS that need to do that
28  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 25, 2011, 06:51:15 PM
pwnyboy can you at least read before sticking your foot in your mouth

Would be a nice trick for "The Fed's" to bag a CANADIAN

The OP mentioned "FEDS".  I knew he was Canadian and rightfully assumed he was referring to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, a federal police service.

It is you who'se put his foot in his mouth.  Good day sir.

yep and you were loads of help to his problem
get a life & stop trooling
29  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 25, 2011, 06:13:58 PM

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I do not have to worry about the "FED's" kicking in my door this has already been thought of and both the power company and the local Law Enforcement have been notified of the goings on and are welcome to come out and inspect provided they have a warrant for entry as we nixed there "Reasonable probable grounds" of entry by notifying them of what was transpiring so they can not unlawfully enter without warrant now 

That's ridiculous.  All you've done is put yourself on their radar.  Please do report back to us how your project goes, and at what point the feds do show up.

pwnyboy can you at least read before sticking your foot in your mouth

Would be a nice trick for "The Fed's" to bag a CANADIAN
30  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 25, 2011, 05:35:42 PM
cuting some 4x8 sheet of composite board with some u channel guides top & bottom
would make some cheep side panels-doors
six 20' box fans should give plenty of air flow even at low speed
cheep furnace filters in some u channel for filtering the fan intake side for dust
Don't forget buying a large fire insurance, from a company that has no swap trade with AIG.
You'll start a fire in no time.

How cheap is ASSHOLE insurance Huh
Just what that I stated is a fire hazard Huh
Troll Troll go away
play your games another way
31  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 25, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
cuting some 4x8 sheet of composite board with some u channel guides top & bottom
would make some cheep side panels-doors
six 20' box fans should give plenty of air flow even at low speed
cheep furnace filters in some u channel for filtering the fan intake side for dust
32  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 25, 2011, 02:29:29 PM
Now why the hell would you make a statement like that ? you don't know me or what I am capable of or not .. or the budget in which im doing this so why would you even assume im in over my head ?

secondly did you not see by reading my posts that the power company is coming to run a new 200+ amp line to the place as currently the service is only 100 amp ? so with that combined with a electrical engineer and city permit's I do not have to worry about the "FED's" kicking in my door this has already been thought of and both the power company and the local Law Enforcement have been notified of the goings on and are welcome to come out and inspect provided they have a warrant for entry as we nixed there "Reasonable probable grounds" of entry by notifying them of what was transpiring so they can not unlawfully enter without warrant now 

I don't have to know anything about you knowing you are spending $60,000 on a mining setup that may never pay for itself, given that for you to break even bitcoin is going to have to increase in value to $50 or $100, you should simply be buying bitcoins.

Do you think people raided for drugs are using illegal power drops connected to the grid?  They are not, having a legal drop means nothing, although contacting them is a great idea I wouldn't count getting raided out.  Law enforcement is notorious for not communicating internally.

drastically small estimate -- NOT -- 1W=3.414 btu
 x48 machines -- NOT -- 48 gpu's not 48 machines

the 690w you misquote and use for your bad calculations Was a complete system with three 5870's
5870 draw 188w - 5850 draw almost 10% less 170w

48 gpu's 3 per system = 16 systems
even 16 x 2356 btu/hr = 37,632 btu/hr  less than 1/3 of your 115,000 btu

The OP pic shows 48 machines with what I was assuming is 3 GPUs each.

Maybe you should reread http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=9621.msg139579#msg139579

Gee if using 100 amps of power gets you a visit from the authorities
they are visiting every small business & factory in the country
Now back to REALITY
33  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 25, 2011, 12:23:25 PM
lol you are so in over your head I hope you actually make it Cheesy

each system is 690watts = 2400btu/hr (a drastically small estimate IMO)
x48 machines = 115,000 btu
so you will need 8 of these window air conditioners
http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-LW1511ER-Window-Conditioner/dp/B004U4MLYU

I would just cool with outside air, build a wall of box fans, remove the fan from the box and grills, make a custom wall with round holes to increase fan efficiency, air comes in one window, out another, prepare for the FEDs to show up a few weeks later due to energy usage and IR imaging...

 drastically small estimate -- NOT -- 1W=3.414 btu
 x48 machines -- NOT -- 48 gpu's not 48 machines

the 690w you misquote and use for your bad calculations Was a complete system with three 5870's
5870 draw 188w - 5850 draw almost 10% less 170w

48 gpu's 3 per system = 16 systems
even 16 x 2356 btu/hr = 37,632 btu/hr  less than 1/3 of your 115,000 btu


34  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 24, 2011, 07:17:55 PM
Open board is the way we would like to keep it cases are not a option we have found the making small intake fans with cowling to provide a steady air intake to the cards open air cools more efficiently then a case would and we like the open air concept both for space and the modular ease of replacing dead hardware I think that by increaseing the air movement in the given room we can keep a mean ambient average and keep hot spots minimal again AC is certainly a option but I think we can effectively cool at this point with a intake exhaust system I like the partition idea simply because we can keep better control of the temperature due to segmentation I shall talk with my partner tonight and will do some more 3d modeling while we wait for the extra hardware to arrive as there is a bunch more to include in the design aspect of things


To the last person who posted please see original post in Edmonton Alberta Canada temp swings from +30 c in summer to -30c in winter so hard Wink so not super easy to design for

36 5850s clocked to 900 and 13 5870s at 950 at the present moment awaiting to run

The current "rack" dimensions will support up to 3 rigs per shelf for a total of  72 machines I think the idea thou is to stay under 50 depending one the power our provider will give us because at I think it is 48 machines the calculated load average was 98 amps ? I think I'm going off my memory from my partner

Sounds like a plan to me
consider filters/cover the intake side.. you don't need any dust
in the winter exhaust back into the room you need the heat
in summer exhaust it outside
35  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 24, 2011, 06:47:51 PM
starter:
dont put it that way. or you need something like 2x3400mm "fan" just ensure. for consistent airflow[let alone exhaust].
instead:
1. put/mount in in standard[19''] rack, close it and attach to air conditioner.
2 or use usual office/from-the-shelf midi-tower PC-cases and attack 120mm pvc/composite tubes for hot exhaust, backed by external fans. at each step.

I like the mid-tower case option. You can get pretty decent (for this purpose) cases for $35 each. It wouldn't add a huge amount to the overall cost but it would make arranging the units much easier and provide a mount for exhaust tubes.

It's a shame the Supermicro GPU-centric server cases are to expensive and geared towards Tesla.  I imagine some old Dell 6X50 cases could be turned into a nice GPU rackmount with a little effort.

it all depends on how many - how much power
will a dozen cased systems with dryer hose out the window do the job
all year Huh  What works in New York is a bust is California
We can hardly guess if the person that asked for help cant provide any details
36  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 24, 2011, 06:15:04 PM
starter:
dont put it that way. or you need something like 2x3400mm "fan" just ensure. for consistent airflow[let alone exhaust].
instead:
1. put/mount in in standard[19''] rack, close it and attach to air conditioner.
2 or use usual office/from-the-shelf midi-tower PC-cases and attack 120mm pvc/composite tubes for hot exhaust, backed by external fans. at each step.

Just what were you trying to say Huh
your options may not be reasonable...cost effective
It's not like I'm getting paid for designing a system
37  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 24, 2011, 05:48:59 PM
Consider fans/forced air only work if the ambient air is cooler than what you want to cool
If its 100 degrees outside its most likely warmer inside and forcing 100+ degree air on gpu's ain't gonna cool much

also from past experience if its not an air tight enclosure its better to exhaust hot air than blow in cooler air
sealing makes the difference 
38  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 24, 2011, 05:11:25 PM

is that 190W an actual measured consumption or the design max from a data sheet ??

Manufacturer is 188W, but that is about what they draw at 100% load as I have 3 of them. My rig (exc monitor) draws 690 Watts at the plug for 3 HD5870 (at 950/300). 

You'll be much more efficient with directed cooling, as you need to increase the air flow to the GPU fan, not just reduce the temperature. As an example, taking my case off and having a cold wind blow onto the rig, the GPUs reached 100 degrees (as they are close together). Putting the case on and adding 2 fans that blow the air directly onto the GPUs dropped the temperature to 76 degrees. You may not have this issue if you have lots of space, but it may help with cost effective cooling, by reducing the volume of air you need to cool.

Just wondered .. was doing btu conversion

you rig is about 2356 btu/hr of heat
39  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining server room (cooling development help) on: May 24, 2011, 04:48:50 PM
Get an AC unit that is rated for the heat removal at least equal to the heat produced by the setup. Or start with a smaller installation if you have not enough knowledge.

Does anybody have any sort of numbers on heat produced by, say 2x 5870?

Any ballpark numbers on per-rig heat produced?



For electrical devices, wattage to power the item is effectively the heat output, as there is no mechanical loss, so 190 Watts per 5870 approx.

is that 190W an actual measured consumption or the design max from a data sheet ??
40  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: [Help]poclbm.exe stopped working? on: May 23, 2011, 08:47:28 PM
I added a pool (and looked at proper syntax) and now I have this:

Code:
start /DC:\Bitcoin\poclbm_py2exe_20119428 poclbm.exe -d0  -odeepbit.net -p8332  --user=user --pass=pass

Now it starts up, has a blank screen for about 10 seconds, and then crashes.

I beleive it's   -d 0 -o deepbit.net -p 8332
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