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21  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Update4! 03.08.2017 on: August 08, 2017, 09:31:45 AM
Я вот еще чего подумал - заметили как резко скакнул курс биткоина после закрытия биржи БТС-е? Думаю что между этими двумя событиями есть связь. А связь такая - отжав кучу бабла и монет у пользователей, кто то двинул рынок вверх, зная что никаких сливов ему уже ждать не стоит  Grin Отсюда вывод, лишив спекулянтов их активов владельцы биржи стали еще богаче и жирнее  Undecided
22  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Update4! 03.08.2017 on: August 08, 2017, 08:47:47 AM
"Биржа BTC-e довела пацана до самоубийства" хороший заголовок будет в сводке mail.ru или в Комсомольской правде. Может тогда хоть почаще админы выползать будут сюда  Smiley
Я именно сегодня об этом думал и даже жене рассказал, что нужен общественный резонанс. Когда каждый день новостные сайты, газеты и ТВ будут пестрить не выдуманными "детскими группами смерти", а реальными случаями самоубийств от действий владельцев биржи BTC-E, когда в очередной передаче у Андрея Малахова на первом канале какой-нибудь депутат, спортсмен и детский врач будут обсуждать, как подло и жестоко поступила биржа BTC-E со своими вкладчиками и они будут просить президента Путина и до кучи Кадырова найти и разобраться, когда ФСБ и ФСО получит задание от первого лица найти засранцев, вот тогда админы будут бегать за каждым вкладчиком с извинениями и просить взять обратно свои деньги и компенсацию за задержку. Впрочем, не исключено что скоро к этому и придет, первая ласточка сегодня уже пролетела.
Оооооой, не могу, щас лопну от смеха с этой темы))) В цирк с вами юмористами ходить не надо. Во первых биржа была заблокирована роском как там его, то есть вы уже занимались противозаконной деятельностью.
Во-первых, я попал на биржу с доменом .nz, а про то, что раньше у этой биржи был домен .com я узнал уже позже. И этот домен не был заблокирован на территории РФ. Во-вторых, с чего вы взяли, что я занимался противозаконной деятельностью? Я в конце июня был в Казани на митапе, где выступала руководитель группы по криптовалютам, созданная при Госдуме РФ Элина Сидоренко, которая заявила, что ничего противозаконного в майнинге или торговле криатовалютой нет. Более того, они уже сейчас думают, как все это регулировать. Но вы то, клоун картонный, разбираетесь лучше в правовых вопросах, чем эксперт при госдуме, не так ли? Столько экспертов плюшевых тут собралось, не хватает только дворника с поганой метлой, чтобы вымести всех их отсюда нахер.
Не стоит грубить. У людей и так настроение на взводе. Неужели вы действительно думаете что представители власти и их карманные банкиры, рады появлению крипто валюты? и они готовы её легализовать?  Shocked  Для них крипта, это большой прыщ на их толстых задах, им хватает выпуска своих облигаций и прочей макулатуры именуемой - ценными бумагами  Grin
По факту это нечем не отличается от фантиков МММ. Просто они не могут больше молча стоять в стороне, видя что деньги населения начинают мигрировать в крипту, а их страшилки об уголовной ответственности и пиар компания из зомбо ящика против крипты, уже не работает. Так что им остается только громко сотрясать воздух и заявлять о поддержке.

Но подумайте, а нафиг они в обще нужны в этой системе? Мерзкие кровососы годами измывающиеся над собственным народом и загоняющие его в нищету и финансовое рабство. А сейчас, они тупо выкачивают Российские ресурсы, нефть, газ и воду и гонят это за бугор, набивая карманы себе и своим отпрыскам, которые уже готовятся занять родительские кресла в госдуре Undecided Чем скорее люди осознают что крипта это их свобода и билет в будущее, тем лучше для них  Wink
23  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Update4! 03.08.2017 on: August 08, 2017, 07:22:58 AM
никогда не держите десятки тысяч долларов на бирже, даже если гарантом биржи выступает ЦБ иили медвепут  Grin
точнее особенно в этом случае.
Эти упыри точно будут прибирать к рукам крипту. Небось уже активно следят за ней. не удивлюсь если скоро в обменниках сбера появится строка с USD -> BTC  Smiley
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BATA | BTA ◈ POW/POS HYBRID ◈ MASTERNODES ◈ PROFIT SHARE ◈ BBP ◈ UBERNODES on: June 11, 2017, 02:39:06 PM




WOW here gathered large cotton wool bags but it seems their dreams of wealth turned out to be an illusion  Shocked  No normal investor will more invest in BATA. Well that I opened the dictionary and checked this word Wink

25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: February 22, 2017, 10:39:07 PM
Anyone who's having questions or wanna discuss factom join the slack community

http://factom-slack.herokuapp.com

HI. I asked a simple question. This information I not found on the official website and in the beginning of this topic. Is that classified information? and what to find it I must join the slack?
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: February 21, 2017, 11:40:21 PM
How many coins will be in the Factom system?
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: STAR COIN [STR] - The coin with bonus STAR blocks on: July 25, 2015, 01:20:19 PM
it's 2 years old, there are only a few older coins than STAR

Strange to hear it. I see a lot of coins that are smaller than the age starcoin but they have much greater popularity and price. Maybe those who are now keep close the mining these coins will begin to create normal site?
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: GoldCoin™ (GLD) Thread - The Gold Standard of Digital Currency [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: July 25, 2015, 01:08:26 PM
whats going on here ?

It seems this guy - Samurai tried to touch on the crisis and offered to discuss changing the algorithm or adding POS system. But instead disskusii his message is simply removed. I see there are two reasons. Or the developers do not want to engage in constructive dialogue, or they do not have sufficient qualifications, which would implement a hybrid system POS & POW. I have the same wish to see in Goldcoin more progressive algorithm than the it is now there. I only have 25k GLD and I do not yet decided what to do with these coins.
29  Other / Meta / Re: Discussion about Tactics used on BCT on: June 21, 2015, 11:56:40 PM
its not trolling or fud when you are trying to understand the product. there were clear problems in the initial proposal. just because you want to invest & had good interactions with whocares doesnt translate into non questioning undying love from the larger community. trust is earned not demanded. also some people made money with GAW but it doesnt mean it was right

you have to separate people from ideas. ridiculing ideas is perfectly fine and should be done. no idea is perfect from the get go, it has to evolve to be a good one. the doctor might have good intentions but it needs real work. reason for extra scrutiny is due to the fact that some people from the HT community tried to regain their losses by starting ponzis and other scams (tntcoin and what not). to the doctors credit he didnt remove all posts from his thread and communicated in a way that could gain him trust and respect in the long run. role of the dev was left quite unclear. was he there to generate value for his other project, hired to just dev it or what. because they shared one account to post it turned very convoluted. transparency > *

ps:
garza told a terminally ill person to invest his nest egg after his initial investment into GAW. that guy lost his legacy due to the overall attitude of not asking questions. (to make it less sad one guy from the "original 19" gave him 10k to leave something behind for his wife)

Thank you, saved me typing my own response  Grin

Bagholding is a very bad motivation, worse than the other big reason why people get into crypto (greed). A bagholder trying to recover his/her lost "investment" by cooking up another scheme is like a gambler who just lost a yolo bet and is borrowing money to win it all back. Would you lend money to such person?

All those post-XPY schemes should be considered more dangerous than any other shitcoin for that reason alone IMHO.

I do not disagree with what many of you have stated.  I would like to respond to some of the replies.  I did lose some on Paycoin and ignored the warning signs, big mistake but it wasn't much money.  I bought an account because I think if I post with my real account I will be ridiculed for a mistake I made and do not wish to have my personal life brought into your thread. 

In response to another couple of comments, yes I am aware of the guy with terminal cancer that Josh screwed.  I cannot remember his name on HT but I think it started with the letter "T' and I believe he did some design work.  I am also aware that you guys were on JG before the emails were leaked or made available and I apologized in a previous post, if I didn't then I apologize now.

I was one of the guys that was on HT for a long time and saw many people come and go.  I do know that many on the GAW thread have been ridiculed for trying to help those that did lose.  Just because people have a desire to try and get a coin back on its feet and that coin was a HUGE scam by JG does not mean they are a scammer. I also see your points that it will be exceedingly difficult because it is a flawed coin to begin with.

I do see the point that it is definitely a riskier endeavor to invest in an HT members coin than someone that did not potentially lose money on Paycoin.  Once again, you are assuming that Whocares lost money, when in reality it was stated on multiple threads by a lot of members that Whocares didn't even start on Paycoin until late in the game.

If Whocares does have good intentions and you have good intentions (preventing scams and protecting people), wouldn't it have been easier to contact him or another team member and say "listen, many of us have a problem with you coming out with a coin that resembles Paycoin, particularly since you were an active HT member.  We strongly advise you to rethink the coin" or hell, maybe even add in a small incentive (aka threat) like "or we will haunt you down like that scumbag JG'

That at least gives an honest person something to consider and allows them to respond.  I can tell you from my point of view, I am scared to death of you guys and want none of you crawling up my ass, not because I am scared of what you will find but because I do not want to deal with the embarassment that I have seen on the GAW thread because I made a dumb ass move.

I am not here to promote anyone or anything accept to possibly enlighten a few people that a different approach from some of you could do a lot of good for crypto and BCT.  There is so much hate and trolling that it makes it impossible for someone that may have a good idea to foster that idea.  I am not saying that scammers should get off easy or that 90+% of coins aren't scams.

Like I have said before, it is very obvious that many of you know crypto very well, I just think that your talents could also be used to benefit crypto in a positive way.

I pissed off Whocares/kilo17 on the Bitstone thread for making this thread because he said it was uncalled for and very inflammatory.  So again I want to apologize for the OP.  I have invited him to post here on the thread for what I think could be potentially invaluable feedback.



Try to bring up a mortally sick cow with named paycoin that would then slaughter it and to put on the meat?  Cheesy
Only a fool would believe in those stories. I think that general attempt agony defrauded the paycoin investors who still believe that they can pump up the value to this dummy coin and jump out of it with less damage.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: June 20, 2015, 08:02:45 AM
Once upon a time the LTC was good a coin, but now 80% of coins in the hands of the money bags from the stock exchange btc-e, they are just waiting for that moment to throw their coins with the price increases. It is enough to carefully read the Russian chat.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♦♦BITSTONE♦BST♦1.29M♦POW/POS♦PHASE 1 OFFERING♦GIVEAWAYS♦RAFFLES♦BITSTONE STORE♦♦ on: June 20, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
I have read some of the GAW thread that Suchmoon and Paul Revere are infamous for, it is very apparent these guys are vindictive and out to get anyone that has owned Paycoin.  That thread is full of insults and slanderous comments.  I saw where the question was asked earlier to either Suchmoon or Paul if they are just here because of kilo17's investment in Paycoin, of course they say they are not here because of the Paycoin but I see no other reason for them being here. 

I know of Whocares from Hashtalk and he gave away a lot of stuff over there and donated to a lot of people.

It is a shame they are doing what they are doing when they have no interest in the coin other than to ruin it. 

I did see that thread on Hashtalk back when it was up, and as usual they are trying to mislead people by picking out certain posts, what they do not show is the last post of that thread which states he cannot open the store and it gave an explanation.  Lastly, they continue to bring up the Gold Silver deal when that question was answered on this very thread. 

I know Whocares/kilo17 is the Real Deal and followed through on numerous Give Aways on HashTalk and I have zero doubt he will deliver on Bitstone as well. 
If the paycoin company is a scam, why do you think that this noble bitstone guys will not repeat them the way? According to what here say about these people for this coin is chosen paycoin path. 93% premine only confirms this.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♦♦BITSTONE♦BST♦1.29M♦POW/POS♦PHASE 1 OFFERING♦GIVEAWAYS♦RAFFLES♦BITSTONE STORE♦♦ on: June 20, 2015, 06:02:14 AM
Now all these people who ask pointed questions already considered here as Troll. Wow  Shocked
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♦♦BITSTONE♦BST♦1.29M♦POW/POS♦PHASE 1 OFFERING♦GIVEAWAYS♦RAFFLES♦BITSTONE STORE♦♦ on: June 20, 2015, 01:45:33 AM
Hello
I'm still a novice in the world of crypto currency, but what I read here is very interesting and useful. I think that any beginner should carefully review all the material before you buy something.
 I realized that all coins with premine are highly risky investment. But I am curious why bitstone have not the website?
 Authors bitstone expect that to take a decision on the development of this project or the disappearance with the money investors? just curious.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: STAR COIN [STR] - The coin with bonus STAR blocks on: June 19, 2015, 10:27:55 PM
Is there any news about this coin?
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