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I don't want to pester Matthewh3 or Nefario, I just want to know where am I supposed to submit my data to have my funds back.
This is exactly the point, regardless of whos right or wrong or whats happened or not, the way this has been handle is completely incompetent. Users get no email notification, no contact details, no update status nothing, just left hanging, its as if your asking for legal action because your leaving users with no other option. Ive contacted their only email and had no reply, what else is there to do? |
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All this talk about GLBSE being illegal is nonsense. All that happened was the exchange of bitcoins, someone said its because its unregulated securities where a security is anything of value. Well if thats the case then every transaction of bitcoins is also an illegal transaction of a security, so watch out what your so quick to measure out, all those who consider themselves oh so pure.
If government wants to call it illegal then it has to first define bitcoins as a species of money or come out with an offical stance, otherwise its no different to saying you cant trade within a game.
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That's a long sentence.
Well take a deep breath then you'll be alright. |
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This isnt about money laundering. GLBSE assets are unregistered securities, and a such selling them is illegal - at least in the US. Securities dont have to be nominated in are traded for fiat. They only need to represent value/debt.
But unregistered securities havent been sold thats the point, because it has to be bought with fiat, therefore nothing was officaly sold if nothing was offical bought, the law must provide a remedy if its accusing you of a crime, therefore if you had approached the alleged authroitys and said I need to register these security's they would of turned you away because they would not recognise them as security's therefore you would have had no remedy in law for the accused crime. |
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The GLBSE deals entirely in bitcoins it is a closed system in that respect. Therefore if the government want to claim money laundering, they can indeed, BUT not until they classify bitcoins as a form of money of which they must then accept as payment of tax.
Is that true? Does the US government take Euro's (or any other fiat currency) for payment of taxes? I was under the assumption that the use of US Dollars was mandatory. Well it is legislated that you must file tax's whilst earning in foreign countries so yes they do accept euros for payment of tax's, you just file out your 1040's(i think?) slightly differently, this is because it is an international banking cartel, it doesnt care much for any particular country. The GLBSE is no diffrent from trade within a virtual game it is a closed system, if its money laundering then the government cant have it both ways, bitcoins must be considered money and acceptable as payment for tax's which of course would be immensely positive thing for bitcoins. |
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The GLBSE deals entirely in bitcoins it is a closed system in that respect. Therefore if the government want to claim money laundering, they can indeed, BUT not until they classify bitcoins as a form of money of which they must then accept as payment of tax.
On a side note does anyone have contact details in order to get our shareholder details so we contact the issuers.
What is the email for contacting glbse.
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you should be able to see your auto saved username through your browsers settings. or even your sign up emails. i am assuming the list of your assets and account balance will be emailed to you. when you give your email username and btc address.
I think hes saying you can assume your investment with the issuer if you give the issuer your email user and btc addressa so they can carry on business without the interface of glbse. However we dont have any information on the issuers in order to contact them in the first place, so its immposible to do whats being asked, unless we can either access glbse or glbse emails each user with all their details. This obviously should of happened anyway, for if someone doesnt check the website they would be none the wiser anyway, its either complete incompetence or theft. Does anyone have the email for contacting glbse? |
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"Q:I'm a GLBSE user, what about my assets and my bitcoin?
You will be able to get back your bitcoin, and if you want to reveal your username, email, and a bitcoin address to accept payments with, you can continue your relationship with the issuer of any assets you hold."
But I cant remember the assets I hold, or even my username it was all autosaved, we need access even if all transactions are locked out in order to get the information.
Does anyone have a list of the issuers?
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Another dirty useless fucking parasite.
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easy its only roughly a 1billion market cap which in the scheme of things is tiny.
If bitcoin is going to become an alternative international currency then its going much higher than that also.
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The CIA loves bitcoins, they use em for all their internal gambling.
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There is indeed huge potential for bitcoins, it can potentially become an international alternative currency with same volume use of any of the other currency's and when or if that happened early adopters would indeed be doing very well, but so would the whole world at that point as they would no longer be having their wealth stolen.
If you put the market cap of Apple into bitcoins I think each bitcoin would be worth $550,000.00 roughly.
On a more conservative level lets just say bitcoin will eventually hit a market cap of 1 billion thats $100+ per coin.
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I have some small investments in GLBSE I look for the honest small startup mining companys only no pirate stuff but so far it really is a mickey mouse or to put another way there is no security whatsoever and I mean literally none.... for example what stops me starting up a security recieving everyones money then just vanishing? Im all for trusting people its a good thing but as they say if you mix 99pounds of icecream with 1 pound of shit you have 100 pounds of shit.
I dont see any reason why the GLBSE cannot demand anyone who wants to create a security have to provide identification in the same way you would in normal commerce for if the GLBSE doesn't someone soon will and whoever does will quickly become the primary investment broker for bitcoins.
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I get the impression that BFL are legitimate, unfortunate for me as I bough 4x 7970 about a week before they announced their super chips!  Anyone a made a purchase from BFL with BTC's? how secure is it, what stops them turning around and saying they havent been paid.. |
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More people need to come to this realisation
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Ok got it, so all bitcoins are stored on the network, the .dat stores your keys to the associated bitcoins. If I load an old .dat with keys to bitcoins ive spent those keys are now useless and so it will automativccaly readjust the client wallet balance?
I assume it deletes the useless keys also?
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What happens when you load an old wallet.dat into a new client where some bitcoins still exist but some dont, does the network simply work out the new balance and correct the .dat?
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