If anybody wants to have some FUN, here is the code difference between his old project, CropCoin, and his new project, BytePay:

https://github.com/osnwt/ScamCoin/commit/cff1e467238da67784014e746f08068fbac867a5

As you may see, it is exactly the same source code. He just renamed coin everywhere and removed some parts of code which had to support legacy epoch of initial Crop history (before tiered masternodes). He was even lazy to change references to 1000 coins for masternode since new coin has masternodes starting from 5000 coins. And also there is no (at first glance) any sign of HODLBANK innovation, too.

So ask yourself: if there is a running project (CropCoin) with some market price, which is on exchanges, which has established user base, WHY TO CLONE IT again instead of running the existing one? The answer is simple: old crop premine has dumped. Now with new project to premine (has finished), masternode sales (in progress), dump (soon) - and to the next one :-)

Have fun!

Guys,

as a former long-term supporter of his previous project, CropCoin, let me tell you what exactly you would expect from this new project considering how that past project was run, and all those issues you could find in its source code. I try to be as honest as possible regardless of his last message to me ("f..k off").

PROs:

• he will sell you masternodes
• he will support the project for some time (maybe month, maybe year)
• he will make some changes in the project to keep high ROI (in coins) while possible
• coin will be on exchanges, yes, the same as crop - CB and CE
• those who are early birds, may and, highly likely, WILL make some money

CONs:

• this project is a next clone of previous one
• it uses old codebase with a lot of issues
• to keep ROI high usual practice was to make blockchain forks every week or two. If you are not checking discord every day or two, you may probably miss update point and start loosing your masternode awards or mining rewards (they will be in another blockchain fork)
• when lot of people enter the project, the premine of 4 million coins will go dumping in parts - the same way as crop's 2 million were dumped
• the price will go down, crop's price went from 39000 sat/coin (as I bought it) to 3000-5000 sat/coins (when I sold out), and many people left it at high loss
• this project has no innovations or clear whitepaper. CROPs innovations were tiered masternodes which are the way to keep interest to the project and coin price from falling. But actually they have no meaning at all, and due to variable number of different nodes, the daily supply will jump up and down, and create unpredictable inflation.
• support on discord is irregular and sparse. The team consisted from a single "dev" which obviously does not code, since no single tech question was answered
• "dev" lied to coin holders about plans. Say, he promised that "community will vote for reward structure", but when time's come, he just set fixed values, and to all questions he just wrote "we set the best for community". All this ignoring a lot of calculations and spreadsheets few user published being concerned
• he ignores or rejects all offers to help with coding, web site or running services, but at the same time says "it's community project"
• no team means no updates. Check crop web site, it is obsolete. Here will be the same. People were mining that coin a moths later after it went PoS only with no mining. And they lost money paying bills and not able to sell coins. The answer was "check discord and update". Let me add: check every day/week
• not being a real developer, the code work is being made by other people. Including building of GUI wallets. GitHub does not cointain all files necessary to build Windows, Linux and Mac wallets, they are distributed as binary only files. Now is the same - Windows GUI is published, MacOS GUI in past project was published on GoogleDrive few days after releases/updates, Linux GUI wallet was never published at all. That's because of old code base taken instead of new one. On all offers to build all 3 platforms at once after adding missing files he answered nothing
• As a result, someone else builds GUI released. You can't do that easily. I made those, but using some parts from other coins, since dev either ignored my requests for missing files, or said "all is published" - well, where is the /share directory needed to build GUI, and where is macdeploy script needed to build a MacOS app bundle? They are built from no one knows which code and by no one knows whom
• with past project, this "dev" even was not able to setup own blockchain explorer and used gos.cx pool's one. Now is the same, use 3rd party offer. You still think it is a good project?
• When you ask too many "bad" questions, they will be deleted first, and your account banned next
• I can show proof to any of these statements, more are listed here. For instance, ask him how to build Linux GUI wallet from the source published. Or Windows. Or MacOS. I bet the answer will be like "we provide all you need ready to use, no need to build" since he is NOT a CODER/DEV, and, perhaps, he has never built any GUI himself

So the conclusion:

• You may invest in it and even make a lot of money. But as well you may lose a lot in BTC if you miss dump point in time
• Yes, ROI in coins is great. But ROI in BTC may be negative. Be aware.

What should be improved, at least, to make such "project" a bit more attractive:

• up to date web site
• own real, not fake, coders in the team, not subcontractors
• own, not 3rd party, blockchain explorer
• own tiered masternode stats page (if we tell about this like an innovation)
• full source code published, so everyone can build 1) command line node for VPS, 2) Windows GUI wallet, 3) MacOS GUI wallet, 4) Linux GUI wallet
• better if all this will use new code base with qmake/cmake/configure system instead of hard-coded fixed libs

Then you may safely invest. But don't ask too many questions apart from "how to install masternode". Otherwise you may receive the same answer as me after a month of supporting his users on Discord: "f..k off, a.. hole", proof is here (in the end).

You should say thanks to him for heading up. See my post above, is my account a bit better?

SCAM CONFIRMED

This project has exactly the same pattern as CROP:
- the same technical issues
- the same missing source files to build GUI wallets
- the same SOURCE CODE almost identical to CROP code (including tiered masternodes)
- the same Discord owner name pattern (compare cropcoindev and bytepaydev)
- as reported above, the same practices of banning people on Discord for questions.
- more issues of previous project are here.

And finally the "dev" way of saying thanks to people who wasted a month helping users in his previous project almost 24/7:

Alternative unofficial CROP explorer: http://crop.exp.osnwt.site (always up to date)
CROP tiered masternode distribution: http://crop.mn.osnwt.site

If you find these service useful, you may donate some CROP to cDaxNt2JFLKT7PyGweXEdzyKusKF1yx1qS

Thank you!

This thread looks like a joke. Who posts this OBSOLETE information?
Where in the hell do you see CROP masternodes of 1000 CROP today?
Sure, copy/paste is easy, but could you at least read and verify what you post?

1. Close the wallet
2. Make backup of wallet.dat file.
3. Remove all data from data directory (including blockchain data subdirectory), keep only wallet.dat (same as backed up).
4. Start wallet and wait until it synced from block 0.
5. Type repairwallet wallet in the debug console.
6. Restart wallet.

All should be consistent and synced.

Read above. Instead of pic you'd better post the address to check. Or check balance yourself in the active net using explorer.
All coins received after block 20000 have no value, you can do what you want, but no one exchange will accept them.

1. Check the balance of your address using block explorer. http://cropcoin.gos.cx/
That is all you can save since it exists in the active supported network.

2. In wallet 1.0.0.3 backup your wallet.dat (always before any repair/update action) open debug console (via menu) and type repairwallet. Restart the wallet.
You should see consistent data and the balance equal to what the explorer shows.

Explanation: if you mined some coins after block 20000, they are mined in the old network. It lives on 1.0.0.1 wallet blockchain but is not supported anymore (since block 20000 this coin does not have PoW and there is no mining). New coins are only exist in this old net. If you had any balance before block 20000, you should see them and only them on your account. All you can do is to repair wallet to make your old transactions consistent with new blockchain. Any transactions after block 20000 do not exist in the new blockchain, thus, are not confirmed and cannot be recovered.

This coin, like many others, is a new high risk asset. It can give many $$$ in few days/weeks but demands from users to watch development channels and update in time due to changes required to introduce new features and options. If anybody has no time/wish watching that, that also is ok, but maybe other coin should be chosen then like ETH or ZEC (but they will not make you rich instantly).

That's because there were few hard forks (code upgrades), and your coins might be in the old unsupported network. First was at block 20000, the second was at block 33333. So if you did not update your wallet and mined after fork - your coins since that blocks are obviously missing. After block 20000 there was no mining (PoW) anymore, this coin became PoS only. And some changes were at block 33333, see the 1st message.

That also is the reason why deposits are missing: you probably sent them using old wallet, and they never reached the exchange.

What you can do now depends on what you use and when you received coins. But if you use old wallet (and still mining) - obviously, those coins will be lost. They exist in the "parallel universe" (another blockchain).

That is because if bitcoin discussed possible forks for years, this coin made few hard forks in weeks. Working with a lot of new coins in existance REQUIRES to watch their support sites. For this coin it's discord. I don't say that all is good, but that's how it is.

This topic's 1st message needs a good f.. update.

- [ANN] CROPCOIN [CROP] | Masternodes | Gpu | PoS | Decentralized Marketplace - PoS does not use GPU.
- Based on Total PoW - there is no PoW anymore, PoS only.
- Algorithm Neoscrypt - there is no PoW, no mining, PoS only.
- Block Time 120 Seconds - block time now is 60 seconds.
- Premine* 2%... Cropcoin has only 4% Premine - 2% or 4%?
- 5000 Cropcoins Required for Masternodes... You will require 2500 Cropcoins to setup a Masternode - 2500 or 5000?

Pls fix.

Being completely agreed with you, just a comment - the coin dev is active on Discord. I personally do not like discord, but that's the place to ask questions. Still, the web site must be up to date, no questions.

That's not a swap, that's a hard fork.
This means that blockchain splits, and you have the same coins in both chains.
Unless you mine, stake or run masternode you don't lose coins and don't have to swap.
Anytime later you may update wallet and see own coins there.
But if you do any of above, or expect to send them or receive from someone, it starts to make sense. Old chain becomes useless, and you have to switch to the newest one.

I don't think you will lose your coins. Just unable to send them in the correct blockchain until upgraded.

Isn't too late, dude? :-)  It has almost no value now unless developers make some surprise...

Deposits were frozen at the time of hard fork.
Apart that, if you sent from 1.0.0.1 wallet - see above (upgrade and retry).
If you sent from 1.0.0.2 - send an email to CryptoBridge admins, they respond promptly and usually fix issue ASAP.

Latest is 1.0.0.2
https://github.com/Cropdev/CropDev/releases

You have sent them from old wallet, this means: in the old blockchain incompatible with new one. That's why the exchange does not see it. You have to update the wallet (SAVE wallet.dat first for backup) and resync blockchain. In the new blockchain forked off the old one your coins should still be intact on the address. You may use coin blockchain explorer to verify the balance.

I dont't know exactly what is it best to do to recover them in the wallet, though. It caches old transactions and may show you what you see now (half of coins). But after resync it may or may not show you proper value. Ask more experienced people for help on this.

We are in the same boat.

Actually, I don't undesrtand who buys those coins based on neoscrypt? I have never heard any real life applications for them apart from speculative purposes.

As a result, first win, last lose.

How do they relate each other?
You want listings on more exchanges - use every chance. Or wait for BIGGEST ones forever.