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21  Economy / Speculation / Re: Greed makes the world go round on: April 09, 2013, 07:43:44 PM
Define greed. Is holding your BTC because you believe it has much more potential greed? I call cashing out an action of greed, where you want to take your fiat money afraid that bitcoin will lose value. That's the true greed.
Greed is buying and selling speculatively, waiting for the price to go further. And since more of the traders are doing it with this in mind, it goes up. When their cash dries out, what do we do?
Spend them on goods and services!
That's exactly my point. But it can only happen in a stable market.
22  Economy / Speculation / Re: Greed makes the world go round on: April 09, 2013, 07:42:56 PM
Aww, I'm not greedy.  I just want enough money to live off of for the rest of my life, that's all.

I hear this magical number is supposed to be around a million.  ONE MILLION DOLLARS HERE I COME YEEHAW

Same as what the greeks wanted. Now they be working and sheit  Grin Grin Grin

Greeks didn't have Bitcoin Wink

Yeah, they had Goldman Sachs to help them  Cool
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: Greed makes the world go round on: April 09, 2013, 07:40:02 PM
Aww, I'm not greedy.  I just want enough money to live off of for the rest of my life, that's all.

I hear this magical number is supposed to be around a million.  ONE MILLION DOLLARS HERE I COME YEEHAW

Same as what the greeks wanted. Now they be working and sheit  Grin Grin Grin
24  Economy / Speculation / Re: Greed makes the world go round on: April 09, 2013, 07:36:17 PM
Define greed. Is holding your BTC because you believe it has much more potential greed? I call cashing out an action of greed, where you want to take your fiat money afraid that bitcoin will lose value. That's the true greed.
Greed is buying and selling speculatively, waiting for the price to go further. And since more of the traders are doing it with this in mind, it goes up. When their cash dries out, what do we do?
25  Economy / Speculation / Re: Greed makes the world go round on: April 09, 2013, 07:34:50 PM
We don't know what the price of bitcoin is going to be, so how come you think the current price is greed?

Its like the price of any other commodity - the price is what the market decides it is - its just because we don't have historical data that everyone is in shock at the current price!



Well here it's a question of psychology- the terminal stages of a bubble are driven wholly by greed and unreal expectations. I myself have in the past made some really questionable investments in stocks in the last possible moment and regretted that I didn't get to know what I'm doing before I do it. I see many people in this position here today- they have great expectations, but as this market is driven by a finite supply of fiat which will eventually dry up- it's more than obvious that prices will fall. Some day they will shoot up again and so on...
26  Economy / Speculation / Re: Greed makes the world go round on: April 09, 2013, 07:28:52 PM
It's new- yes.
It's got future- I couldn't agree more.
But some people should stop being greedy and look at how BTC can benefit them and the people around them in the long run. That way we'll get a stable currency and escape from the grips of government and greedy bankers.
27  Economy / Speculation / Greed makes the world go round on: April 09, 2013, 07:19:06 PM
As I have seen on many other markets, greed is the driving factor behind every bubble.
When will some people here see that it's their greed telling them that BTC will hit $1K by next week/month/year?

BTC is different from other markets in many ways, but it IS after all a MARKET- buy and sell.
I think that after greed and burst bubbles, comes the fundamentals and the real development of BTC. Does anyone agree with me?
28  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fun fact. There are 31 BTC million bids to purchase bitcoins in gox order book on: April 09, 2013, 05:07:36 PM
What fix?
Nothing showing in the order books unless you have the funds to execute.

That's a pretty serious bug and in some way connected to the current trends imo.
29  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fun fact. There are 31 BTC million bids to purchase bitcoins in gox order book on: April 09, 2013, 04:56:05 PM
It's as if Soros and his cronies have come into the game...  Grin
30  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Bitcoin Bubble of 2015! on: April 09, 2013, 04:36:36 PM
Where can I use my bitcoins on a hooker?

~0.75BTC / hour
PM me...

That's gonna be a pretty high price in a few days' time  Grin
31  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Bitcoin Bubble of 2015! on: April 09, 2013, 12:48:15 PM
The Dow Jones had a big rally in 2007. When the housing bubble burst, I saw a lot of broke and sad people. Some committed suicide...

But look on the bright side- bubbles come and go- DJ is again in the same levels as the beginning of 2007.

Bitcoin will burst, fall and then shoot up again way past $200.

Your greed sees in the short-term. Wisdom sees in the long run.

Your story is my master plan. I am too late to afford any bitcoins apart from the 0.16 I own. But after the big crash I am in the game and buy several coins and watch the numbers climb to $200 again.  Grin
Keep dreaming. How can you not panic buy?
Yeah, what a shame  Grin
32  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Bitcoin Bubble of 2015! on: April 09, 2013, 11:01:14 AM
The Dow Jones had a big rally in 2007. When the housing bubble burst, I saw a lot of broke and sad people. Some committed suicide...

But look on the bright side- bubbles come and go- DJ is again in the same levels as the beginning of 2007.

Bitcoin will burst, fall and then shoot up again way past $200.

Your greed sees in the short-term. Wisdom sees in the long run.
33  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is a snowball, not a bubble on: April 08, 2013, 04:43:33 PM
Hey look, another thread by a new adopter trying to justify his irrational speculative investing. Nice!
+1
34  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is a snowball, not a bubble on: April 08, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
I don't doubt that there will be several bubbles in the next few years and prices will reach in the thousands, but in the end, BTC is about stable exchange. It's not gold, it's a currency and people want to use it as such. And that's the fundamental thing here- most people who are in don't understand BTC. That's why there will be bubbles  Grin
35  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is a snowball, not a bubble on: April 08, 2013, 04:08:01 PM
Bitcoin is due to reach full capacity in 2140.

Some people, I don't want to say most, in this forum are saying that there are fundamental reasons for this rise. They would be correct, if today were 08/04/2021 for example, but it ain't.

Corruption, looked at globally as a whole, is rampant in societies, where there are few real government regulations and controls and information is eschewed in different kinds of ways. That said, I think that less than 50% of the people involved with BTC in some way, actually know what BTC is and how it works. I see a lot of greed and where there is greed, there is corruption. I sure hope that BTC survives in the long run, if it doesn't- then I sure hope that its' successor(and one there will be) manages to overcome this greed and let people exchange freely.
36  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is a snowball, not a bubble on: April 08, 2013, 03:45:58 PM
Bitcoin ain't a snowball.

MtGox is a snowball. Who has control over them? Who believes the data that they release?

MtGox at the moment is not subject to any regulation or laws, which means that they can do whatever they want, and they sure are in something big, assisted by some greedy investors. They want to suck the stupid money into the scheme, take it and whatever happens with BTC- they don't give a damn. And all this is damaging BTC- right now I think that nobody is trading anything in BTC, due to the volatile market. And volatile markets lead to a loss in cofidence.

READ HISTORY!
37  Economy / Speculation / Re: MtGox and Bitcoin- the next scheme of the world's investment bankers? on: April 07, 2013, 02:14:30 PM
In the past couple of days on MtGox we have trading volumes of around 40 000 BTC.

That's around $5.6 million being traded a day, if we take the avg. price of $140/BTC. It's not a lot of money from their perspective, but in the end, it's hard cash which they can earn. Saying that, this bubble could be at its beginning, or its' end.

Because if they get more and more people into BTC, if the stupid money comes along and BTC hits $1000, then we're talking big cash. Investment banking style.
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: By December 31st, 2013 we will have touched $1000/BTC on: April 07, 2013, 02:07:00 PM
So much greed here  Grin
39  Economy / Speculation / Re: Greed will catch up with you. on: April 07, 2013, 01:54:36 PM
In the end, is anyone using BTC for anything other than speculating?

I think that if BTC survives after the bursting of this bubble, then it will truly become an alternative global currency.

If it doesn't- another digital currency will come along and pick up on the lessons learned.
40  Economy / Economics / Re: CRASH?! (not) For all the 'nay sayers' on: April 07, 2013, 01:35:59 PM
With these prices, what good is Bitcoin? What can you use it for in such times of volatility?
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