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21  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-21]Bitcoin Withdrawals Expected to Resume As Chinese Exchanges Ask User on: March 21, 2017, 08:18:52 PM
Fortunately exchanges aren't the only way of buying Bitcoin, and it's not 100% relevant to people's privacy.

Most people who put large amounts of money into exchanges are professionals who have money in other things as well and aren't afraid of giving out personal details as they don't participate in illegal activity.

If people in China want to buy Bitcoin, they can just go elsewhere, like LocalBitcoins, or any other sites or forms of exchange which are not restricted (and even if it's illegal, there will always be a way - Bitcoin hardly has a reputation for 100% legal usage).
22  Economy / Speculation / Re: BU adoption causes another 20% crash for core. on: March 21, 2017, 08:16:33 PM
Keep Calm! It's just a bad time, another bug!
I can't wait to see when BU lovers will push through their rogue protocol update and after a month or we will discover that BU code is flawed or contain a major bug.
That is what you get when you want to toy and update software worth 20 billion dollars without proper knowledge and long term plan.
Exactly, it's clear that the BU system is not prepared or tested enough for use on a currency with a market cap as high as $20bn, we're trusting a group which is not trustworthy with something as huge and valuable as Bitcoin and that scared me when within a couple of months of potential adoption we're seeing major bugs being unveiled.
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: The rush to sell is real on: March 21, 2017, 08:14:31 PM
It's funny how through the years things haven't changed a single bit. If you browse through 2011 threads, you'll see that at such insanely low prices (compared to todays prices) people were equally in panic at the time the price went down. If you just look at how the price has been developing in the last years, then it's obvious that no matter what level of intense panic, the price always recovers and moves up higher. It's of course not a guarantee that it will continue to recover endlessly, but with Bitcoin's potential growth in mind, we have far more exciting years still ahead of us. Smiley
It's a lot harder for Bitcoin's value to go up now though.  We might see Bitcoin at pretty much an ATH but this is still strange behaviour and should not be seen as normal. 

I agree that Bitcoin's price won't go down all the way to 0 or even close to that but we need to take care and watch from the sidelines.  Now that the price is as high as $1000 per coin, the market cap has to rise by an amazing amount for Bitcoin's value to do so and that's a key factor to take into account.
24  Economy / Speculation / Re: $3000+ on sight for this year after BUcoin disaster on: March 21, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
Another factor to consider is the fact that a lot of well traded altcoins are moving up, most of them have all gone up by half of their prices so people might be riding that out first then move back to bitcoins.
But in my analysis, there are group of traders meant only for altcoin trading and also most of the traders are having separate capital for altcoin trading and for bitcoin trading so they are not messing up at the same time they are not waiting for one opportunity and hence they do not need to move funds here and there when opportunities are possible.
As soon as Bitcoin is looking up, the traders will start flocking to Bitcoin again.  Many people who buy altcoins, especially the flawed but well marketed ones like DASH, are quite naive newbies who don't realise that Bitcoin will continue to be the strongest cryptocurrency for a long time, and if they want to change it they need to contribute to sides which argue about where to take its open source code.  I think that after the scaling solutions are dealt with and the fear of BU is past us, I do agree, Bitcoin is on its way to the top.
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: March 21, 2017, 08:07:22 PM
Bitcoin is the new era of internet currency. It is indeed easy to exchange for fiat currency and also many online merchants have started accepting bitcoin. Companies are installing bitcoin ATMs. Even though it is still in a limbo of being a currency of real world, the growth story still continues.

However, bitcoin is not easy to earn. A decent amount of bitcoin can’t be earned through signature campaign which many people consider a good source of money. To earn a decent amount of bitcoin, you need to trade in the exchanges. This is not an easy task and requires a lot of attention. It also involves a certain amount of risk.

Exactly, it's the new era of Internet currency but that doesn't mean currency altogether.

I think there will always be an appeal to physical money due to its obvious convenience and the separation from banks.  Bitcoin will be a huge player in future money, but only online.  Although to be honest, I do think that government regulated money isn't completely dead and will continue to function well enough irrespective of Bitcoin's performance.  I don't believe all of the people who claim that Bitcoin is going to entirely take over currency, especially when it's not scalable even with the best available solutions.
26  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Like The Price Is DROPPING Now ( NDE-MO ) on: March 21, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
The price isn't particularly dropping too much, I'm quite surprised about how stable it is considering the very real possibility of a HF happening soon (not that I necessarily think this is a bad thing but the split would leave a lot of fear and uncertainty with some Bitcoiners about where it's going to go).
27  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Transferring funds on: March 13, 2017, 10:05:42 PM
You wouldn't.  That's why online wallets are pretty scary.  You know that if they ever collapse, you'll lose your Bitcoin.

To be fair, this is very unlikely to happen with Blockchain as they are quite a trusted wallet and have serious security measures.
28  Economy / Speculation / Re: At what price is the Moon landing? on: March 13, 2017, 09:49:13 PM
For me, BTC has moon landed already. I remember the time when its price crashed and people were panicking and now it is beyond everything people imagined at that time. However, to add something for the future, I think BTC will land on the next planet when reaching $10k. It will be the next big milestone in a logarithmic scale ))
True.  This moon thing doesn't really make sense, because Bitcoin is at a very high price right now to what you would expect it to be.  Bitcoin isn't suddenly going to have its price fly up to the stars forever, there needs to be a genuine grounding for it, and it'll go planet by planet.  Next stop, Mars, will be around $3-4k.
29  Economy / Economics / Re: Two Visions for Bitcoin on: March 13, 2017, 09:36:37 PM
I'm optimistic, but grounded.  Bitcoin has potential but it's not ready yet because it's not scalable.  I also think that there are a lot of cons with a deflationary investment e.g. all the hoarding which is resulting in a decreasing circulation of the currency.

30  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-13]PBOC: ‘Bitcoin Trading Platforms Cannot Call Themselves Exchanges’ on: March 13, 2017, 09:29:23 PM
exchange
ɪksˈtʃeɪndʒ,ɛksˈtʃeɪndʒ
noun
1.
an act of giving one thing and receiving another (especially of the same kind) in return.
2.
the changing of money to its equivalent in the currency of another country.

By the first definition and arguably by the second it is definitely an exchange.  This pedantic argument over a word is not going to change Bitcoin and I see this is as an attempt to discredit its legitimacy.
31  Economy / Economics / Re: What percentage of people on Earth will own Bitcoin by 2020 on: March 13, 2017, 07:20:28 PM
I went with 2-5% but that's being optimistic, realistically I think bitcoin ownership will stay under 2%. Even if bitcoin ownership increased by a magnitude of 10 it would still be less than 2%. We are still in the early days.
maybe I will be optimistic bitcoin users would probably only reach 2-5% of the total world population. if you want to see 90% of the world population using bitcoin. it will take the next decade
That number is too optimistic, when half of the human population have problems accessing water when one third don’t have electricity, I don’t think we are anywhere close to reach a number like that, if we reach one percent before this decade ends we should consider ourselves lucky.
electricity and the Internet has become a major requirement in the world. so I think it will be developed to become more sophisticated so that electricity and the Internet will continue to exist so believe electricity will not be cut off in the future

Electricity and Internet come hand in hand. If there is no or little supply of electricity in your country then basically Internet is also limited then bitcoin used is limited as well. So the number of bitcoin user correlates to countries that consumed a lot of electricity. My guestimate is that bitcoin users will more likely around 2-10% for me. I agree with some saying that bitcoin is still in its infancy, so its still young and needed to grow more in the coming years to reach its potential in year 2020.
I agree, I think that Bitcoin's adoption by 2020 will not result in it magically being a mainstream currency and my view is that arguments for Bitcoin becoming worth a million dollars or something are nothing more than weak hyperbole and a facade of optimism.

The usage couldn't be more than half because less than half of people have regular access to the Internet.  The people who will have good enough Internet will be much fewer than that, and beyond that a lot of people with stable currencies will not automatically turn to Bitcoin if they are in countries with stable enough currencies that they feel are better for spending in their everyday life.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 4 billion people don't have internet on: March 13, 2017, 07:09:57 PM
Well frankly if they don't have access to Internet, there's not very much point in trying because exchanging their coins would be extremely hard.  I definitely appreciate these coins' use for poorer people who need some help, but these coins are rooted in the Internet and you can't think of solutions to not having what the coins are based on.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Coins to hold during a 20 year long coma on: March 13, 2017, 06:57:30 PM
So far no altcoins have proven that they are genuine, original or good enough so that they will stick around and continue to grow for 20 years.  It's very unlikely that any altcoin, which will most likely be more of a trend than anything else to be frank, will rise in value, stay relevant or even get close to Bitcoin.  The only coin which I would trust to stay stable enough for as long as that is Bitcoin.
34  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Newbie question of cloudmining on: March 13, 2017, 06:49:05 PM
Ok, but that didnt answer the question in terms of profitability and efficiency. Take out of the equation website credibility for this question Smiley
It's impossible to take website credibility out of this.  You need to get cloud mining out of your head.

When people say that nearly all cloud mining services are scams, they're not joking.  The reason for that is because cloud mining is not profitable.  It's a bad investment, you will not make any ROI for at least 2-3 years and the chances are that you'll never make any profit at all as in four years the block size reward halving will happen.  Therefore the only legit cloud mining service is HashNest and maybe 2-3 more, all of which are terrible investments.  All of the others are Ponzi schemes.  DON'T DO IT.
35  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin wallet recommendation on: March 13, 2017, 06:39:20 PM
If you're looking for something easy, I recommend the Blockchain wallet, but no online wallet is ideal and anyone could steal your Bitcoin if there's a security compromise in their system.

Otherwise, you could try a hardware wallet like Trezor, or a more secure than online wallet like Electrum which is sort of a mixed wallet.
36  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Anonymous community «POKGO» on: March 13, 2017, 06:32:42 PM
This site does the function of binding your bitcoin address. All the money is stored on your bitcoin purse. Why do you panic? If you are afraid not to participate in this anonymous community. This site shows the model building its own team since we all want to make money in bitcoins. Not all can crypto currency. For someone, it's easy to organize a team and receive this scheme. Open your eyes and look at the main page of the website screenshot of the result of Dmitry T.Bazhenovsky. The brother earned 1616 BTC. Learn how to make money !!!
So you're claiming that someone earned 1616 BTC (over a million dollars) of other people's money which they essentially donated to you through your Ponzi scheme which we just found out about today?  Why would anyone believe this?
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So no one cares about ETF decision, right? on: March 11, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
Right.  I think that Bitcoin is becoming more stable and more people are seeing it as a genuine investment.  This is a serious thing and the drop was not very significant, which is amazing news and I think that the price will continue to go up in the future.
38  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: March 11, 2017, 10:28:49 AM
I also think that bitcoin is good investment right now, because more and more peopled using bitcoin, more merchants accepting bitcoin for payments etc.
As result, bitcoin price is rising every day and we are closer to our ultimate goal, to become mainstream.
Still, some things worry me.
It seems that governments, banks and other financial institutions don't like bitcoin.
If they refuse to legalize bitcoin, or regulate bitcoin in some way, it will not help growth of bitcoin.
Other crypto currencies my replace bitcoin in the future.
So, be wise and don't invest everything here.
Remember old ''wisdom'': don't put all eggs in the one basket. 


I don't know, the number of merchants accepting Bitcoin hasn't really gone up recently, even Fiverr had to pull out because of how inconvenient Bitcoin transactions are right now.

But we'll see what happens - the future is still looking up for Bitcoin.
39  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-10]SEC rejects Winklevoss twins’ plan to trade Bitcoin as stock on: March 11, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
If they don't know how to monitor it properly due to Bitcoin's unregulated nature, it basically means that none of the following ETF's will be approved. It's funny how they talk about monitoring as there are plenty of ETF's that have gone down and resulted in investors to lose millions. Where was the SEC in these cases? If they really were monitoring the markets as they claim, it would have been avoided. It's pure nonsense. They just don't want to see Bitcoin become even bigger.
True.  Unfortunately I think this makes it quite unlikely that there will be a Bitcoin ETF in the foreseeable future since the reasons they cited were mostly about the fundamental nature of Bitcoin rather than its current situation or its volatility (which could change).
40  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BU - Bitcoin Unlimited on: March 09, 2017, 08:56:52 PM
Hello,

So there are is big battle going between Segwit and Bitcoin Unlimited. I have some questions about Bitcoin Unlimited.

What if Bitcoin Unlimited will win the battle;
1) Will it be easier to mine bitcoin again? (Like at the beginning of bitcoin)
2) Will the transactions go though faster? Right now there are 40k unconfirmed transactions

3) What other benefits does Bitcoin Unlimited have except there are unlimited Bitcoins?

4) What do you think it will do to the price? Many people say it will MOON, but when there is unlimited resource of something I only see it dumping..

Thanks for answering my question. I greatly appreciate it Smiley



1.  No.  It won't, it'll still be pretty hard, probably less profitable in fact because far more transactions would be in each block as I recall.  It would still be a strong enough business for the major companies though.

2.  Yes.  Much, much, much faster, which is the point for both SegWit and Bitcoin Unlimited - pretty much the only point.

3.  I can't really answer this.  Transactions will be faster, there won't be unlimited Bitcoins - mining rewards will stay the same as far as I know and the max will always be 21 million to be reached in 2040.

4.  It will go higher because Bitcoin can become commonly adopted as transactions are more convenient.

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