nice increase of the park rate, but unfortunately its because of the low MNX price ... Hope it will recover in some months after everybody accumulated some more...
With a price of 5$ per token the opposite is true, the price is too high for a coin that is mineable. Ask yourself if this coin is worth a marketcap of 95 million(19 million coin times 5$), my answer is no way and i sold all my coins because this coin won't hold this high price. There is no 19 MIO, not yet ! Your math is very wrong! I know that there are not 19 millions coin yet, hence the "mineable". My point is that the coin is overpriced for what it actually is It would be interesting to get your understanding of what the coin is and why the price is going up? Based on your reaction, it appears to me that you are merely projecting what you"think" you know based on the other coins. May I ask you to read the whitepaper and understand the full depth of the project? 1) Do you know why the Miners are extremely important for the balance of the project? Minexbank replenishment? 2) Do you know why the price is going up? Minexbank parking rates, volatility control (soon)? 3) When you say "for what it actually is", do you know the roadmap of 2018 regarding the Minex ecosystem? These questions are rethorical of course. Allow me to educate you here : a- The miners here have a job a filling the Minexbank with MNX thanks to a 30% fee paid directly via mining reward. The bank is an autonomous tool (not yet) that rewards coin holders for contributing to the price stability and price value. You get paid by not dumping, and a lot when the sell pressure is high (as you have seen of late). This means that the team has direct (soon) and indirect control of the price, in order to get it stable, or to a more satisfactory value. The ICo price was 0.0023BTC/MNX. The target for the near future is 20$, first because the available supply is very low. To educate you further, it is not 5.5 millions since the team will not dump their share. The minexbank won't dump 1.5 millions so that goes out of the equation. Safe to say that the real circulating supply is closer to 3 millions MNX. b- The price is going up because the Minexbank is providing an interest rate for parking of more than 5% a week. While it is a quite high rate, it is nowhere close to what the team could set if they really want to speed things up. In their memorandum about the roadmap, they want the price to reach 20$ by the end of the year. at current bitcoin price, that's 0.0032 BTC/MNX. That means they can directly incentivise people to hold and get rewarded for this. Also, after reaching 20$, the volatility control feature (see the whitepaper) will kick in. If we believe what is said in the white paper, the price will not dump afterwards, but increase at a rate of 42% per year. Do you see whats happening here? They have means to stabilize an upward trend, reward holders and reach a preset price. And you say you have sold already? This speaks of your blatant lack of understanding. Moreover, let me remind you that a coin with a stabilized price of 20$ has a certain credibility, that i believe the team wants to reach ASAP. Since MNX is only available on 1 exchange yet, and the volume is still low, they can easily do it. Once its done, the next step is to launch on other plateform and increase the volume, visibility and reach of the entire MNx project. c- in 2018, the Minex ecosystem will be launched : Minexexchange, Minexchange plateform, Minexmarket and so on. an entire ecosystem based solely for the customer and user. Its very existence is governed by the stability of the price of MNX which makes it a true usable currency. So apparently, you have no idea what you are talking about here my dear friend. While ignorance is not a problem if remaining silent, your vocalizing of said ignorance is only harming you  |
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Trading has been started and i see my coins there in my account and i have already placed a buy order @0.0021 BTC because i was a investor and i don't wanna lose, but it is a shame for minex team that again told a lie to us, they told that coin will start with ICO price but it started with 0.0003 BTC.
Shame on you , your MOM will be happy to hear that you all tell so much blatant lie.
Yes, It is so sad now. But dont sell mnx with cheap pricc Wait Livecoin add withdraw buttom and give notice on news listing and trading They just released a memorandum stating exactly what to expect for the first weeks. The Minexbank volatility control feature will kick in only when the coin reaches 20 $. They advised not to sell before that point, or at your own losses. If you read it like me, you would have interpreted that have to wait for that point People selling at low price is not their fault, it's yours. |
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We waited months and months and they come up with Livecoin, seriously? You said you are making your own exchange, what happened? Why do we have to see the coin in a shitty exchange? And you announce this like a big thing. Shame on you!
Perhaps if you take some time to do your own research you would understand how stupid what you just said is? 1) In the whitepaper, it is mentionned that the Minexexchange will be available in 2018. May I suggest you do some serious work to trully understand what the project is about? 2) Now that the project finally has a date, an official annoucement to hit an exchange, you are still complaining? Don't you see what this means? Exchange, official trades, official volatility control with Minexbank interests rates adapting to the market (basically, you make free money with holding and contributing to the price stability). Now that the devs have delivered on that promise, they will deliver on the next one, and the one after that and so on. They will then be able to focus on the next part of the Minex project : Building the ecosystem on the one hand, and on the other, build up awareness around the project to bring in more people. At this point, i can't wait for people like you to get out of the project and sell (for gods sake) so that all the crybabies, bounty hunters, impatient and disrespectful people are gone, and only the serious trader/investors remain to build up a community on solid grounds... Sell your coins in 3 weeks and please be gone, or stop complaining!!! |
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Governments going after all exchanges will definitely be a thing in the years to come. Scams, failed coins, Through the roof ICOs, taxes no paid will all be reason for them to step up their game and create the legal frame get the exchanges to comply with their demands. If they manage to push it as far as shutting down exchanges, then yeah, decentralized exchange are going to be king. Against that, only rendering the tech illegal would work (but that is far fetched). I'm starting to prepare for that future and invest in the techs like KMD  |
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The mindset of many people here seems to be off.
In business, the first question to answer to, like gary VAYNERCHUCK likes to say, is what can you do for SUPERNET? jab jab jab right hook (for those who know about him.
you have to provide shit before you ask for shit in return. Those who have the mindset of "First i want to be given something big, then I MIGHT do something for you". Doesn't work that way.
I am going to go hard on this for he following reasons :
1) the technology is plain amazing and will bring value to the end user with decentralisation. In a time where regulations are on the countries board, decentralisation is the answer
2) I own some KMD (for the aforementioned reason)
3) i am willing to provide before I ask for anything in return.
This should be fun!
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Et oui, c'est dommage que les junior ne soient pas éligibles, mais bon ça se comprend aussi.. Sinon, pour récupérer des Onion gratuitement, tu as un faucet.. bon ça rapporte des cacahuètes, mais qui sait, ces cacahuètes vaudront peut-être quelque chose un jour : https://deeponion.exvulgusscientia.com/0.0044 ONION en 4 jours d'activité moyenne.. le début de la richesse =) Je dirais que le mieux à faire et c'est ce que je fais aussi, c'est d'en acheter directement et acheter/vendre pour augmenter sa base d'onion. Le volume est suffisant fort pour que les fluctuations soient assez nombreuses, et assez faible pour qu'elle soit significatives. Avec 300 onions envoyés, j'ai doublé ma mise en 9 jours. Autant vous dire que 300 onions ça commence à chiffrer. |
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bonjour,savez vous sur quel exchange le deeponion est listé? je ne compte pas vendre bien au contraire mais juste pour suivre le prix.
Sinon,un grand bravo au projet et a la communauté grandissante et dynamique.
DeepOnion est listé sur Novaexchange : https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_ONION/regarde la variation et mets toi à rever oui exitant tout ca! une autre question de noob: sur le fil anglais,on me suggère de "fix ma signature". comment on fait? car j'ai rien pigé en englais Ta signature n'est plus à jour. Pour le faire, rends toi à l'adresse suivante : https://deeponion.org/view_signatures.php. Tu prends la signature en concordance avec ton rang, et tu la remplaces. C'est ok pour toi? |
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Mise à jour : Les Juniors Members ne peuvent plus participer à l'AIRDROP. Il vous faudra donc augmenter votre Activity rapidement au dela de 60 pour en bénéficier à nouveau. |
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Ah bah voilà, j'ai retiré 150 onions sur les 1708.45419685 que j'avais reçu. Si je sais toujours compter ça fait moins de 10%. Et j'ai aussi fait attention à ce que ma change address soit celle de l'airdrop, mais j'ai quand même été blacklisted. Ils y vont pas avec le dos de la cuiller, les mecs xD Bitcointalk user Id:640617
Wallet Address:Dh6dmSHcEWcSHPvJX6c5tvuzpaCk1rwGif
Status:Blacklisted by DeepOnion for unknown reason. Je sais pas pourquoi, mais avec tous les gens qui se plaignaient d'être blacklistés ces derniers temps, je le sentais venir. Faut dire que l'explorateur de blocs est mal foutu aussi : http://explorer.deeponion.org/address/Dh6dmSHcEWcSHPvJX6c5tvuzpaCk1rwGifJ'ai jamais eu 1910 onions dans mon wallet. C'est 1708 que j'ai reçu avec la sig campaign. 1910 ça doit être le total qui prend en compte les 200 onions qui sont partis sur ma change address (que j'ai configurée pour être celle d'origine, donc, hein). Je veux dire, ok, mais alors pourquoi ils sont uniquement écrits en débit et pas en crédit ? Ça n'a aucun sens. A en croire cet explorateur de blocs j'ai deux totaux différents sur mon wallet. L'un des deux est faussé (celui de la ligne du haut). Mais si on fait le calcul de mon solde depuis les colonnes du bas on obtient les vrais totaux : 1708 reçus, 150 de débités, 1558 de restant (= plus de 90% comme convenu). Bon, comme je ne pense pas avoir enfreint une quelconque règle que ce soit, je vais leur envoyer un MP pour voir ça avec eux. Mais ça me fait un peu chier. Tu as affaire au bug du blockexplorer de DeepOnion. A savoir que quelque soit la somme que tu retires, tu peux en être victime et ton solde de DO sur le blockexplorer se trouve afficher une valeur inférieure voire très inférieure. Pour corriger ce problème, tu à juste à réenvoyer tes onions vers ta propre adresse : => tu t'envoies les ONIONS à toi même. Si tu ne le fais pas, le bot DeepOnion considerera que tu as brisé la règle et tu te feras blacklist. C'est clair pour toi? quel est ton statut actuellement? |
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Il faut remplacer les XXXXX par ton numéro de profil qui est : 640617 (uniquement pour toi)
Ça c'est la partie que j'avais déjà comprise . La partie que je n'ai pas encore comprise c'est où se trouvent lesdits XXXXX. EDIT : Bon j'ai toujours pas trouvé de XXXXX ni de XXXXXX nulle part, par contre dans ma signature il y avait 4 XXX. Je les ai changés en 640617. Ça doit être ça. Mais ce qui me chipote le plus avec mon ban c'est le "unknown reason". Enfin, les mecs se sont même pas fatigués à me donner une raison. Ça n'a même pas l'air d'être le coup des X, sinon apparemment ça devrait m'avoir été spécifié. Enfin j'ai envoyé un MP au dev. Je vais voir ça avec lui, Je pense qu'au lieu de viser les 10% de retraits, il faut tabler sur 8% pour être sur de ne pas commetre une erreur
Pris en compte aussi : mon transfert a été de 8,8% seulement. Cher ami, J'ai pris le temps de traduire l'ANN complet en 1ere page, et tu y trouveras toutes les informations nécessaires pour update la signature et trouver ton ID bitcointalk. 1) Ta signature n'est pas à jour et c'est devenu obligatoire de l'update pour recevoir l'AIRDROP. Voici le lien en question : https://deeponion.org/view_signatures.php2) Ton XXX est ton ID bitcointalk. Pour le connaitre, tu dois cliquer ici sur "profile => summary". Quand tu regardes dans ta barre d'adresse internet tout en haut, tu auras un numéro à 6 chiffres. J'ai traduit cette partie en page 1. De manière générale, aucun junior member ou moins ne pourra recevoir l'AIRDROP. Et aucun compte créé après le 12 juillet ne pourront en recevoir non plus. |
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I confirm participating to the lottery!
I will do the work needed to get the coins.
thanks for the warning
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THE AIRDROPS, A WEEKLY GIFT AND REMINDER OF A FORECASTED SUCCESS! HAVE YOU TOO FELT THE PLEASURE OF RECEIVING THE WEEKLY DEEPONION AIRDROP? It has been now week 7 of the weekly airdrop and I must say, it feels incredible to get the tokens repeatedly week after week. At this point, many of us have joined the project and I am sure, developped a sense of "ownership" of it. What i mean by that is that DeepOnion has become part of us. We feel deeply emotional about it. A PORTFOLIO ASSET : AIRDROPS in general don't mean a thing, since you only have to register and forget about it. You get the coins and you just don't have to care more than that. Later on, you even forget you had the coins and usually discover, thanks to a twitter/facebook headline that the price went up. other than this, you just don't feel concerned that much. At the beginning, DeepOnion was a project with ambitious claims, especially in the way the AIRDROP is conducted. Quite peculiar in the approach, 40 weeks of successive drops has a nice ring when you think about. However, before hitting novaexchange, there was no way for usto grasp how important it was since ONION were just a number in a wallet. Now that the coin is on Nova, we can get a sense of how precious the amount of AIRDROP is, not even considering the price increase in the coming future. At the current value, the amount we get is basically a second salary! How many of us could have imagined that? Here is the table showing just how valuable this AIRDROP is: These numbers show us that Deeponion can be very well considered an asset in a portfolio. i would add that the asset in question, if projected throughout the coming months, will gain momentum and surely reach sky high prices! (that may be overfetched, but I'm just feeling it ). I'm telling you all this for a simple reason. i just had a conversation with my girl to whom, Cryptos are nice and cool but cannot fill an empty plate! Which in essence is wrong but i can understand why she thinks that way. After explaining her, I told her the amount we make each week and that at some point, I could swap that for FIAT currencies and she would feel "how not virtual" the asset is. Give it some time, and Deeponion alone will make quite a difference for many people financially (We are talking only financially here). |
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le x2 et le x5 ne sont pas que pour les modérateurs mais pour ceux qui ont une implication particulièrement active dans le projet, dont la contribution apporte beaucoup à l'équipe.
La liste est dispo sur le forum.
Ils ont fait pas mal de ménage oui dans le but de conserver des users de qualité, virer tout ce qui relève du spam inutile, des pumps&dumpers ainsi que des cheaters.
ça va encore durer 33 semaines donc inutile de se sentir mal.
Autre chose, pour ceux qui en veulent, vous avez la possibilité d'en faire vous même. Aujourd'hui le Deeponion est monté a 0.00035 un bref moment, et deja redescendu a 25? Si vous en achetez a 25 et vendez à 35, vous avez de quoi faire des aller-retour et finir par un avoir un nombre sympatique.
De mon côté j'avais envoyé 300 DeepOnion, j'en ai deja 510 sur Novaexchange (et encore j'aurai pu faire plus). N'hésitez pas donc!
Je vais publier un petit tuto la dessus
300 Onions envoyés, waouh, cela veut dire plus de 3000 Onions dans ton Wallet!! je n'ai même pas encore atteint ce niveau. bien joué Au fait le faucet refonctionne: https://deeponion.exvulgusscientia.com/C'est les bounties principalement que j'ai pu envoyer : 100 pour traduire, 100 pour maintenir et 100 pour avoir atteint 100 posts sur le forum officiel. Les bounties ne comptent pas pour le calcul des 10% |
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Mise à jour : Les Juniors Members ne peuvent plus participer à l'AIRDROP. Il vous faudra donc augmenter votre Activity rapidement au dela de 60 pour en bénéficier à nouveau. |
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le x2 et le x5 ne sont pas que pour les modérateurs mais pour ceux qui ont une implication particulièrement active dans le projet, dont la contribution apporte beaucoup à l'équipe.
La liste est dispo sur le forum.
Ils ont fait pas mal de ménage oui dans le but de conserver des users de qualité, virer tout ce qui relève du spam inutile, des pumps&dumpers ainsi que des cheaters.
ça va encore durer 33 semaines donc inutile de se sentir mal.
Autre chose, pour ceux qui en veulent, vous avez la possibilité d'en faire vous même. Aujourd'hui le Deeponion est monté a 0.00035 un bref moment, et deja redescendu a 25? Si vous en achetez a 25 et vendez à 35, vous avez de quoi faire des aller-retour et finir par un avoir un nombre sympatique.
De mon côté j'avais envoyé 300 DeepOnion, j'en ai deja 510 sur Novaexchange (et encore j'aurai pu faire plus). N'hésitez pas donc!
Je vais publier un petit tuto la dessus
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J'ai un truc étrange sur mon statut sur le site de deep onion, il marque que je suis: "Blacklisted by DeepOnion for unknown reason."
Alors certes, j'ai pas fait le compte de mot la semaine dernière et cette semaine, j'ai vendu un peu hier, mais c'était moins de 10% (50 onion sur les 640 que j'avais). Je pense que ma signature est à jour aussi. Si quelqu'un pouvait m'éclairer, merci par avance.
En fait cela vient certainement du blockexplorer. Il y a un bug connu qui génère un problème lors du mouvement de DO. Etant donné que la somme que tu as déplacée est proche de 10%, je serais assez peu surpris si le blockexplorer enregistre une valeur supérieure. Il y a une procédure pour ça qui vise à réinitialiser le block explorer. Je vais te l'écrire dans un prochaine post |
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Gaffe à la typo des nombres, en français. Quand j'ai lu ton post, pour moi, c'était 15188 Onions qui allaient être donnés, et mon coeur a manqué un battement. Même si je suis contre la logique de séparer les troisièmes puissances de 10 par des points et puis de finir son nombre par une vigule, c'est comme ça qu'on fait, en français. Je suis d'accord que le système anglais est plus logique, mais voilà. Rapide cours de typo pour les nombres, avec "mille dollars" écrit avec la convention anglais et puis française : $1,000.00 1.000,00 $ C'est les points et les virgules qui font chier, surtout, mais c'est important. Ou bien rajoute un chiffre, à la limite. Si tu écris 15.18888 comme ils ont fait sur leur site, y a plus de doute possible : t'as écrit ton message en français mais t'as utilisé le standard anglais pour le nombre et c'est la bagatelle de 15 onions qui va être distribuée, pas 15000. Merci. Ne t'inquiète pas pour moi, je suis 100% français. Cette histoire de virgule et de points vient uniquement de mon utilisation excel/google sheet. Pour l'un c'est avec une virgule, pour l'autre c'est avec un point. Donc derrière la logique s'est un peu effacée de ma tête. |
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One good thing about the Deeponion community is that it has a unique set of developers which will finally solve the issue of almost all altcoins have a problem in common: "the pump and dump" dilemma.Premise:- DeepOnion will airdrop onions every friday for 40 weeks. (free onions for everyone on bitcointalk) so after the airdrop, "Dumpers"will immediately withdraw all 100% onions from their airdrop wallet and sell them to exchanges, which would cause a "pump and dump" trend. by these trend, it will signal other traders to dump their onions before the price fell on its knees.
Conclusion:10% withdraw rule. (Existing)- Users that will withdraw more than 10% from their airdrop wallet will be blacklisted. therefore they are not eligible for future airdrops.
Penalties (Future) take note, this is the real solution. - Users that want to appeal their blacklisted status will pay a penalty of 80% (upon the discretion of the developers, can change every week)
for example:if "Client A" withdraws all his 1,000 Onions then the dev team immediately detected that he violated the 10% Rule. Client must replenish his airdrop wallet with the amount of 1,800 Onions so that he will be eligible for the next airdrop. If not, he will not be included in the future airdrops to come. calculations are as follows: 1,000 x 1.80 (80%) = 1,800 This Solution will ensure that people with the strong intention to pump and dump the Onions will not profit from it anymore. Solving the age-old dilemmas for altcoins. DeepOnion Delivers! what do you think guys? I dont understand the point about the possibility to come back after u remove more them 10% from your wallet. I think is have to be a strictly rule. yep, except that it seems that some genuine people did remove less than 10% but for some reason (I don't get it even after I red some explainations), the record is showing as it is more than 10%. So, this is a little heavy to make mandatory for people to be crypto expert to move a little amount of coins... to make sure it will not seem to be over the limit. the question is as well to dev, how to do know for sure when 10% is moved, compared to what I was reporting as example of faulse over 10% move? Well, I say a 80% penalty is more than fair. The person will have to be smart on his trading to build up his capital by 80%. Also, this is probably a sinequanone condition but not sufficient on its own, since devs decision is final. They just added a task to perform. Given the current volume on DeepOnion, this is no easy task! But it gives a chance to come back which is quite the amend if the person manages that. Handling this type of issues with a just retribution and providing a chance to make amend is to me, the right play! |
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Il y a un moyen de savoir le nombre de personnes participant à l'airdrop ?
Bibi187 a donné une réponse assez claire et explicite. Le nombre varie d'Airdrop en Airdrop dans la mesure où il y à un certain nombre de prérequis à respecter. - Tout le monde n'arrive pas à faire ses 10 posts/50 caractères - Certains oublient de mettre à jour la signature - Il y a eu beaucoup de ban de cheater (plusieurs compte) - l'arrivée de nouveaux comptes a été significativement jugulée en ajoutant de novueaux prérequis (etre Member minimum, des posts de qualités uniquement). Je dirais donc qu'on va se situer autour de 300-500 environ. |
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hi fellow onioners, there's a relative new crypto like deeponion also in this bct, masternode, which was announced a week after the deeponion announcement. they also have deepsend feature and they also have airdrops. i wonder why they have less participation in their thread. deeponion has almost 12k posts while they have less than 1k. do we have information on mastercode features so we can come up with a healthy comparison. that way we can strengthen further our advantages and improve on our weaknesses.
Well my dear friend, the answer to that is very simple. A project with awesome technical features and the community's engagement are 2 very distinct things that has nothing to do with each other. What differentiates tthe 2 projects you are mentioning is that here, the team has put significant effort to work on both fronts. 1) On the one hand, you have the technical side that is taken care of with the features you mention, following a roadmap. 2) On the second hand, you have community managers like crypto who are growth hacking, simply put. As you can see, he is putting all his effort and creativity solely for the purpose of growing, engaging with, keeping our focus here, rewarding participation of the community. That is a job in itself. Every project that doesn't have much of attention or participation is a project that focuses mainly on the technical side. Crypto and the team have understood that. This is why your conclusions of "work on our weaknesses" is ill advised. We should work on our strength and make it so much better, that no other projects will follow on that. Success comes when you do something SO GOOD, that you are known for that, and that only. At that moment, nobody cares what you do less efficiently or whatever. Forget your weaknesses, focus on your strengths! basic entreprenarial stuff. |
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