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21  Economy / Speculation / Re: take advantage of opportunities on: August 18, 2023, 07:04:27 PM
Are you also taking advantage of this opportunity, friend?
No, I already have my holdings and can't add any extra money to it right now. I actually need to sell some BTC for daily expenses, but this recent crash has impacted me negatively, since I was expecting prices to rise a little bit before selling my coins. Now it seems I will have to sell my BTC for a cheap price, losing some potential extra profit I could make and was counting on.

Well, that is what happens when you put too much expectations on crypto market on short term. Angry
I think expectations are not the main problem but the problem is from ourselves that sometimes we cannot be wise in managing our finances or our economy.
I don't know, but in my opinion don't panic too much to sell your Bitcoin assets at a cheap price, even though it's actually up to your decision because it's your own money that you use. For the problem of daily expenses or to meet our daily needs we can still overcome it in many other ways without selling our assets at relatively low prices. Daily expenses can be minimized by saving our income only to meet basic or basic needs such as food, drink, electricity and others. Not to spend our money on what we want but don't need.
I thought that selling my Bitcoin assets was a last resort to overcome really difficult economic problems or could say I really didn't have any spare money left. But if you have to sell it cheap then that's fine as long as you don't get frustrated seeing the price skyrocket after you sell it.
22  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it worth it to teach older people about bitcoin technology? on: August 18, 2023, 06:13:03 PM
whether it's worthwhile to educate older generations about bitcoin.
I don't think there is anything wrong with teaching or educating the older generation about Bitcoin. Even though they are from the older generation, that doesn't mean they don't have the right to be taught and follow developments in this all-digital world.
The older generation doesn't mean they can't understand the development, right? Even though it is possible to teach the older generation it will require more patience but as long as we teach Bitcoin to someone who is interested or someone who is not against Bitcoin, even if they belong to the older generation it will not be in vain, because sharing knowledge that is well it will never go to waste.
In this era of all-digital development, whoever they are and from whatever background they come from, young or old, all have the right to learn or even be taught about Bitcoin.
23  Economy / Economics / Re: Bad economic situation makes bitcoins more difficult to keep. on: August 17, 2023, 10:45:17 PM
I was having a conversation with a friend, and we talked about how difficult the economy is and how it can disrupt someone's plan to hold their bitcoins without tampering with it. I think this is true because if you think of how difficult things are getting, Salaries from jobs no longer sufficient to sort all needs, and profit from business seriously affected and made intangible because of the increasing cost of running a business and the rising cost of things.
Yes you are right, in my opinion it is also like that, that anxiety or problems due to this bad economic situation in my opinion must also be felt by many people regardless of whether they are from developed countries or not because all of them are affected. The difficult economic situation and the increasingly expensive necessities of life at this time make some people feel annoyed and worried about ruining their Bitcoin investment.

People in countries with better economy, where there are good jobs and businesses are working, Bitcoins will easier hold than for people who are in places with terrible economic situation. What do you think?
On this matter I somewhat disagree with you, in my opinion even in developed countries or it can be said that countries with better economies will still feel the same anxiety and worry due to the impact of the bad economic situation. I don't think that those from developed countries have smooth economic conditions and their daily needs there will be cheaper. The income of people in developed countries is indeed large but they are still affected and even their expenses are also large.
Maybe one way to reduce the bad economic situation is that we have to look for additional income but unfortunately to earn additional income at this time is definitely not easy for everyone because most of their time is spent for working, spending time with their family or colleague and resting.
24  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Reasons for Doing your own research on: August 17, 2023, 09:56:21 PM
Do your own research ( DYOR) is used to advice people in cryptocurrency investment not to believe on information they randomly get online especially from social media influencers.
Doing your own research (DYOR) before investing is indeed very important, because in my opinion it is from this research process that we can make it easier for ourselves to process, absorb and better understand knowledge or information according to our abilities. And I think indirectly can also add experience for ourselves.
Yes, in any case not only in terms of investing, we should not easily believe information provided by other people even if it is an famous influencer on social media, because it is not certain that what they convey is true 100%. In my opinion, never trust only one source but we must have many reference sources.

Though doing your own research is an important aspect for personal growth but if one get false information then such person is doomed with it, except he/she get the truth before he/she becomes victimised which is  maybe unlikely. So please, how do I know a good source for legit information with consistency?
As I said earlier, in my opinion if you want to do your own research, you must have or collect many reference sources not just from one reference source, so that we can compare the information we want to get or what we want to study. As well as from the many references we have, the knowledge and information we get will be more and can further expand our knowledge.
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wrong way to accumulate. on: August 17, 2023, 08:54:20 PM
I totally agree with what you said in this matter. Because investing in bitcoin for the long term must be done with full calculation and there is also no need to rush. We can accumulate slowly and little by little. And of course only use money that is ready if you have to lose. In the sense of cold money that will not be used in the long term. And cold money is usually the money left over after we have met all the necessities needed to support our daily lives. Accumulation with cold money will keep our mentality healthy and not disturbed at all. The point is we have to control ourselves and keep prioritizing the most important needs in our lives and only then invest in bitcoin.
You are absolutely right and I agree that investing in Bitcoin is an activity that cannot be done in a hurry because we also have to learn basic knowledge about investing in Bitcoin and understand what risks will be faced.
If we want to invest, of course we have to do various careful calculations and the most important thing is that we have to adjust to our current conditions and we should use "cold money" to invest in Bitcoin so that our investment activities don't become a burden for us.
But sometimes some people don't have good investment risk management, for example those who are too brave to take risks and are greedy to put all their assets or money in and there are even some people who just sell their property to invest in Bitcoin and do not care about the risks involved.
26  Economy / Economics / Re: Fast Transportation Makes Economic Turnover Faster on: August 16, 2023, 11:59:31 PM
Totally agree with it. Most progressive country have a very good transportation system. Like our country before, in our history, we have the most advance train system that made us progressive but after the war started those train system was neglected and more roads build. Instead of developing it for more effecient way of travel (cheap and fast)

Traveling through train is comfortable but I think there are lots of other road vehicles which are more faster than train but we are taking about cost so yes Traveling through train is less expensive than other vehicles.

Unfortunately there is only two or three cities in our country where there is an opportunity to go through train if this system is made possible for every city in each country then every country will have less expensive and comfortable transportation.

our country also currently has a massive railway infrastructure development because the train is still the prima donna for the transportation of people and goods, especially in the capital which is very dense with productive workers, in addition to the construction of railway infrastructure, there are also many toll road developments to shorten the buses and trucks shipping goods that often pass by, with more and more infrastructure development, each region will be connected so that the circulation of money between regions is getting faster.
Fast transportation is indeed one of the factors that supports accelerating the rotation of the people's economy in a country but for the main factor I agree more with you and in my opinion what you say is very true that basically it is infrastructure development that can provide a big role for the advancement and development of the people's economy in a country or in other words if all the infrastructure in a country is progressing rapidly then it is certain that their economic wheels will be better than countries that do not have progress in infrastructure development.
27  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies say no to Trading. on: August 16, 2023, 11:42:15 PM
Knowledge is one of the determining factors for someone's success in the world of crypto or Bitcoin. What you say is true, it's best for beginners who really don't understand crypto or Bitcoin at all or those who don't have basic knowledge should not rush to enter the world of trading. Trading is not as easy as it seems because it is more complex.
Even though trading requires more knowledge, in my opinion trading or investing is not easy, they have their own difficulties because any activity carried out in bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick scheme, and it is true that not everyone has the expertise to become a crypto trader.
For anyone, including a beginner or an expert it is really not recommended to quit their main job just because they bought a portion of Bitcoin, even though Bitcoin has great potential, for our daily needs we also need fiat money which can only be obtained through work.
28  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Features that destabilised people in bitcoin on: August 14, 2023, 11:59:51 PM
I think it's true what some of the other members have said that what you convey is more for personal reasons for each individual, not a problem with Bitcoin features.
I think the feature of Bitcoin that makes one often unable to survive is its volatility. The rest are external factors because other Bitcoin features, in my opinion, may not be a problem.
External factors in my opinion are the same as what you convey, namely factors from the investors themselves and also factors from policies/rules/regulations regarding the use of Bitcoin by the government where we live.
29  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin best option to invest on: August 14, 2023, 11:43:03 PM
Well, bitcoin isn't the only good investment out there. so many other investments. however, in this forum, most people will choose bitcoin as a good investment. Plus, people see investment potential differently the way some people choose bitcoin, real estate, business development, and more. Maybe it's good enough if you try to explain other investments to the people around you, but when he chooses one or already thinks that an investment is good, then you only need to provide the information you know about that investment.
Yes, you are right that there are still many good and potentially profitable investments besides Bitcoin, it all depends on belief and how we see opportunities in an investment. In my opinion, most of these forums will definitely and clearly choose Bitcoin as an investment which they think is good and has great potential because this forum is a forum for people who are more interested in discussing Bitcoin.
Actually, I think having any investment has good potential compared to if we don't have any plans to invest in the current era. The most important thing in investing is that someone understands what they are investing in and they must have confidence and comfort when they invest in their investment choices.
30  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The things that improve a quality post on: August 13, 2023, 10:02:47 PM
Since I registered in the forum I observed one of the things that brings setback to the beginners like me, I will like us to look into this tips of mine I seen like some of the barriers that contributes not to have a quality post. I don't know if someone have outlined this tips before, but this is what I think that is beginners problem of not having / making a quality posts. For we to make a quality posts we have to consider the following.

● Sentence
● Spelling
● Research
● Environmental observations
● Arrangements

To make quality and good posts is not only an obstacle or problem experienced by beginners, but sometimes old members of this forum often feel it too.
Actually, for beginners or someone who has just joined the forum they don't have to be able to provide good and quality postings right away because this depends on knowledge and experience, the most important thing is to understand and comply with the rules that already exist in this forum.

Some of the aspects of writing that you convey are true, and in my opinion if we make a post using all the aspects that you convey then maybe it will be a post that has good content and has very informative value.
But unfortunately, to make our posts considered quality or not, this is what we cannot control or we cannot control because quality or not depends on the recipient or the judging reader.
31  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin obsession! on: August 13, 2023, 09:34:51 PM
With obsession when it's gambling we give a strong NO with our reasons attached cause obsession is just another form of addiction. So lets talk about obsession (addiction) to bitcoin. I felt in a way it might help bitcoin enthusiasts like myself and others to knows  and understand in clear terms if bitcoin obsession is bad(wrong) or not.

First, I think addiction and obsession are two different things, but it could be interrelated between addiction and obsession disorders. Basically, admiring anything in excess is not good for our mental health.
I think it's okay to be obsessed with Bitcoin as long as we can still control our behavior, attitudes and views not to overdo it, in the sense that we don't exaggerate our thoughts about Bitcoin too much. Exaggerating here I mean like if we have thoughts and a view that only Bitcoin is the only one who can help all our economic problems, Bitcoin makes us rich quickly and fixes other problems which logically are not included in the purpose Bitcoin was created.
Bitcoin can indeed help improve our finances, but we also have to be able to think rationally that all of that also depends on how we use Bitcoin and our conditions too.
We should still think rationally and manage our thoughts so that they become a positive obsession, that is if we really have views and thoughts about Bitcoin as they should and not too much.
32  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How useful is Bitcoin to the youth? on: August 13, 2023, 08:55:45 PM
You are right mate,Bitcoin has really helped a lot of youth avert from their ugly doings on the street,and has made them responsible people in the society.
I don't understand what you mean, how can Bitcoin prevent a young person from doing their bad thing? and make them a responsible person?.
Bitcoin is not a person or thing that can prevent an act of mischief or bad behavior from a young person on the street. Bitcoin can't do that, I think what helps young people avoid their bad behavior and makes them a responsible person depends on the character of the individual and the norms he has and several other factors.

Some persons who don't have access to it or haven't heard of it are really leaving in the dark
In your opinion someone who does not understand and has never heard of Bitcoin you categorize into people who are headed for darkness?. Are you not exaggerating?.
Do not be too easy to generalize something, not everyone who doesn't understand about Bitcoin, his life is really heading or is in "darkness" friends.
33  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Any legit bitcoin mining apps? on: August 12, 2023, 04:06:48 PM
Hey, listen up!! There are no such apps... Bitcoin mining hasn't been simplified to that version, sorry! Anything else of this nature is a pure SCAM!!  I don't support that as I won't take what's not rightfully mine either!!
This is all done in a bid that a fake mempool is pre-organised and you'll be Aksed at the end to either inject a little amount of BTC to settle up mining fees, or whatever... But all you'll be seeing on that site are actually fake confirmations... Don't dare!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
I'd seen a lot of apps on the internet and tried one just to confirm if that is true and legit but the speculations are definitely right, all of them are tricks and scams. So it was not advisable to download those apps because this might be the reason for hacking our phones as well.

Let us imagine that if those apps are legit, many people had become rich already - it was free mining as offered but because it was not, they are just ignored. So, I suggest OP stop thinking it really exists, better to spend his money buying Bitcoin rather than wasting his time with these fake mining apps.
Lol I thought it was just me for fun to try some apps like that it turns out you are like that too, even though I have faith that some of those apps are pure SCAM but for some reason sometimes I wonder what they are like and how some of these apps work.
Sorry back on topic. Yes, it is true that expecting to get Bitcoin from these applications is impossible or can be called fraud and completely does not match the advertisements displayed.
It's true that if there really was such an app then there would be lots of people getting rich in an easy way. For the OP, instead of being busy making sure and looking for things that are uncertain and unreasonable, you better learn how to trade or invest in Bitcoin.
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN: Give people time! on: August 12, 2023, 03:31:35 PM
1. Give people time; they will show interest when the time is right for them. Their timing may not be same with yours, if you've done your own job of talking to them about it, then that's fine.
2. The amount of energy and time you expend preaching to someone about bitcoin is not a warranty that he will accept what you're offering. Maybe not immediately!
3. We should always tell people to go do their own research about bitcoin after giving them some preaching about it. Doing their own research from with what they  get online can strengthen their conviction about what they've have been told.
I agree with some of the points you convey, maybe some people who still don't accept that their sermons to others about Bitcoin experience rejection, they should see your explanation.
That's right, everyone has their own thoughts and beliefs and it's true that everyone needs a different time of acceptance before they finally make a decision. So we shouldn't have to force someone or chase someone to immediately understand our explanation or even force them to know Bitcoin.
No matter how good our way of explaining or how much detail we try to explain to someone about Bitcoin does not guarantee that someone will immediately accept what we say about Bitcoin, because they have to go through several processes of accepting and rejecting the information they get in themselves first and they must consider it according to their conditions.
Because i think to understand and trust Bitcoin is not easy and not difficult either but it must be with confidence and a decision from themselves.
35  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [UNDERSTANDINGS THE CONCEPT OF POST WRITING IN BITCOINTALK] on: August 11, 2023, 06:43:19 PM
OP I appreciate your good intention to share the knowledge you have and share the link, but before posting it try to look again at how your post is written.
I apologize in advance and I hope you are not offended because I think your post to be a bit messy in its preparation and format, I assume you were too hasty to post your thread without reviewing what you wrote.
The information you want to convey may not be conveyed properly if the reader feels uncomfortable reading because the writing format seems untidy.
I hope that in the future you can review the writing that you made before posting it and make it neater so that the reader is not distracted or unfocused because the writing format seems untidy.
36  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: As an undergraduate, is it advisable to invest my trustfund in Bitcoin? on: August 11, 2023, 06:00:13 PM
So, here's what I want to know: Is it a good idea if I use the money I've saved up from 3 years of my trust fund to buy Bitcoin?
Don't be too gullible when you receive information that just buying Bitcoin can make you very rich. I assume you heard stories from people who may not be very familiar with how Bitcoin works because they only mention that you can become very rich after spending.
It's not easy to get rich, what they say is absolutely not true that once you buy then you will be very rich. The way Bitcoin works doesn't undermine what they say. There is a process, there is a way and it takes time if you want to invest in Bitcoin.

Your classmate is right, you should multiply and add to your knowledge and reading references first to learn basic knowledge about crypto and Bitcoin then after that learn about investing in Bitcoin and the risks involved.
There have been many reading references in online and offline media about Bitcoin, you can also actively read in this forum and you can use the search button on the forum to find what you want to know.
Don't be careless to use your money to buy something you don't know what it is and how it works. Once you understand how Bitcoin works maybe you can decide whether using your money to buy Bitcoin is a good idea or not.
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: think before investing on: August 11, 2023, 12:00:10 AM
Everyone certainly has to think long and hard about doing something, especially if it is risking their money or possessions. Investing in Bitcoin is not as easy as turning our palm and then we can get profits quickly.
We must first understand and learn basic knowledge about crypto, Bitcoin and how to invest and many other things.
If we only think about the benefits but don't want to study it first, then we can be sure that someone is messed up and might fail, including investing in Bitcoin.
Investing is an activity to take profits, but in the long run, not immediately after we put our assets in investing, we will immediately benefit.
There are already many people who are careless in investing because they do not do research first and learn the basic knowledge about what they are investing in.
38  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can Bitcoin provide food for our table on: August 10, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
then I have to come with the idea that Bitcoin can make availability of food in our table when we learn and understand the basic things of Bitcoin especially understand trading and long term investment of Bitcoin.

I know that Bitcoin should not be dependent on, and we suppose to make Bitcoin our side hustle but with seriousness on Bitcoin investment and trading, we can achieve a success.
Yes of course Bitcoin can provide "food supplies on our table" because Bitcoin itself has a "value" but no one can guarantee everyone's success in getting that "food supply" because Bitcoin is very volatile.
We can benefit from trading or investing in Bitcoin, but it doesn't immediately give us results that we can feel quickly, it has to go through various processes which are quite difficult if we don't have basic knowledge about trading or investing in Bitcoin properly and correctly.
Yes you are right, we cannot completely depend on Bitcoin because Bitcoin also has risks in it and we can only predict, but no one can guarantee the accuracy. and no one can guarantee we will be successful with Bitcoin activities whether it's trading or investing.
39  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is for everybody but we must accept it before it can be ours. on: August 10, 2023, 11:14:33 PM
Bitcoin is not for everyone maybe that thought is based on their own opinions, but I totally diagree with it, if I may ask who will see something good and reject it? No body, even if some people rejected it, it might be because of the laws from the higher authorities like government or military. 
The sentence "Bitcoin is not for everyone" exists or was created does not mean it has a real meaning that Bitcoin prohibits some people or only selected people who can own Bitcoin.
Yes, it's true that Bitcoin was created for everyone, but in reality Bitcoin can't be used for everyone, right? Therefore, the term "Bitcoin is not for everyone" appears which is just a term used by some people to refer to people who cannot or do not want to accept Bitcoin whatever their reasons, whether it's because they don't believe and don't care, because there is a ban from the government or because they are not able and do not want to have Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is for everybody, but we all have to accept it before it can be ours so I conclude that we must first accept bitcoin before we can have access to it and if you don't accept bitcoin you can't invest on it.
From the opinion that you express and convey, this means that Bitcoin is not for everyone who hasn't or doesn't want to accept it, right? So that's what the sentence or term "Bitcoin is not for everyone" means. In essence, this sentence is a sentence that contains a figurative meaning or is not a real word.
40  Economy / Economics / Re: New Research found Work from home workers to be less productive on: August 09, 2023, 11:55:48 PM
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office.
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I think for now working in an office or working from home is not the most important problem. The most important thing is that the individual can meet their daily needs and earn income.
And I think it's efficient when the work we do can really provide us with income and can improve our finances from time to time.
Then productive is relatively dependent on how the individual manages his thoughts and daily life. Someone who works in an office or at home may be unproductive or monotonous if they only work or carry out their work activities according to what they do every day.
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