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201  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Catch a thief on: July 21, 2021, 04:41:26 PM
I'm sure that there's a way to track it down however there's no assurance that you will know the owner of that certain address not unless there's a data online that is connected to that wallet address. Even if you wrote it down on paper doesn't mean it would be safe I think if you repeat it you might want to change 1 or 2 phrase and keep it yourself in that way even if they steal your password written on paper, they still can't have an access to your wallet.
202  Other / Off-topic / Re: Back from the future on: July 21, 2021, 04:38:04 PM
Here's the paradox though, if everyone who knows about bitcoin gets teleported back in time, the supply will quickly go up because everyone is going to buy it and there is definitely someone that will break the laws and cause a paradox which renders the first time travel not real which takes us back to square one which is the present before the time travel.

That's true if it's for everyone probably somethings might be change in the future probably its price but if it's only for one person, let's say me. I think there won't be any effect at all since I don't have that much money to buy a lot of Bitcoin, I'll just probably follow some altcoins that I know that will pump anytime soon probably dogecoin.
203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin brings us true freedom of thought on: July 17, 2021, 01:37:39 PM
bitcoin gives freedom of thought, I think it's true, even though our way of thinking in bitcoin is different but our goal is the same, both want bitcoin to always exist and be an asset that is always valuable to us, the presence of bitcoin teaches us about many things, changes mindset ancient ones become millennials, in the past we only knew banks were places to store money, with the presence of bitcoin we already know how to save money in different ways, and invest in different ways..thank you for teaching us to keep growing..
Yes, I definitely agree with you that Bitcoin gave us freedom from all of the traditional and conventional things that we used to only know. Since Bitcoin existed, people came to a lot of breakthroughs in doing and pursuing things that they have discovered they are passionate with, especially in financial matters. And currently, cryptocurrencies in general are continuously touching the lives many people and the different aspects of humanity.
204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terms and condition a must read before signing up any online gambling site on: July 17, 2021, 11:54:12 AM
I'm sure most gamblers are lazy to read the terms and conditions, because they are usually quite long if we have to read all of them.
So I agree that at least we can use the search feature to find the points we need, so there's no need to read all the terms and conditions.
But if we have free time, it is better to read all the terms and conditions, I'm afraid maybe that there are important points that might miss.
I also prefer gambling sites that have an ANN thread on this forum, besides we can directly ask the things we want to know, and it makes
it easier for me to judge the gambling site is worth using or not.
Yes, I think one of the dilemmas here is if it is right to make the terms and conditions more precise to at least shorten the content and encourage more people to read it. Although, one point that must be considered if there will be no missed information by doing so. What do you think guys?

ANN threads are definitely helpful because these helps people to comprehend things easily while also having direct communication with the community and the gambling site managers.
205  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do ordinary people feel afraid of Bitcoin? on: July 17, 2021, 11:47:18 AM
It can be said that people are afraid of the things that they are not familiar with, or of the things that they were misinformed about. As per Bitcoin, people know its volatility, and that can be a major thing to drive them anxious and choose not to deal with it. This can be interpreted that the perceived risks that come along Bitcoin, discourage and make people afraid with it. Also, the potential of illegalities that has been and can be made with it can be an additional factor. Nevertheless, accurate information and open mindedness can correct these misconceptions.
206  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't be too desperate to make earning on: July 17, 2021, 11:39:53 AM
This can also be another view of the matter, more precisely, we are talking about the objectivity of making money in the short term when in many phases of the market, an uptrend becomes prominent and short-term investment for profit becomes easy, a few more special cases are professional traders with their ability to read charts, using margin mode to make money in the short term. Mainly perhaps this topic is aimed at inexperienced investors and not yet firmly grounded in the concept of trading
Yes. You have explained out precisely the thought of making money in short term, considering market uptrend phases. And maybe you are right too that this is pointing to inexperienced people who are indulging to invest or trade.

For me though, it's not determination that we need but the opposite of despair which is hope. You are right about following the trend but you have to be careful because there's a likely chance that you might be too late in the trend that you will arrive on the dip which leads to you experiencing big losses.
Well, I think we all have our own perspective, and we can call it anything we want to, but I also believe that we have the same thought after all. I cannot disagree with you that with the trends, one must know how to read the charts and other indicators, to be able to analyze the market situation and come up with a good decision.
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: China says no to miners mean something else on: July 17, 2021, 11:29:45 AM
In my opinion, the impact of China banning cryptocurrencies has made cryptocurrency prices plummet. Not only crypto miners are prohibited by the Chinese government, other institutions are also not allowed to provide savings, agreements including crypto currency guarantees, and financial products related to crypto currencies. One of the reasons China is banning crypto is that they see crypto as disrupting the economic order.
I agree that it is seen as a threat to their existing economic orders. Also, it looks like that the Chinese government has concerns and even speculations about the volatility of cryptocurrencies. They see its power and potentials being possibly utilized for money laundering and other illegal actions. So, the government decided to just cut off everything related to cryptocurrencies.

indeed this reason makes sense. they are indeed very strict about money laundering. and they always try to control their citizens in all aspects. so banning crypto in china is the right choice for the chinese government at this time. and besides bitcoin mining also has problems for the environment. On this basis also China made a ban.
Yes, I also think that China is really after controlling their citizens, their actions and their economy in general. Although, I do not know if this is really the right decision to make. If for the illegalities that has been made with cryptocurrencies, it can be considered as a good decision. However, there are far more negative consequences, especially for the sake of their citizens, when such decision has been made.
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: China says no to miners mean something else on: July 16, 2021, 04:26:54 PM
In my opinion, the impact of China banning cryptocurrencies has made cryptocurrency prices plummet. Not only crypto miners are prohibited by the Chinese government, other institutions are also not allowed to provide savings, agreements including crypto currency guarantees, and financial products related to crypto currencies. One of the reasons China is banning crypto is that they see crypto as disrupting the economic order.
I agree that it is seen as a threat to their existing economic orders. Also, it looks like that the Chinese government has concerns and even speculations about the volatility of cryptocurrencies. They see its power and potentials being possibly utilized for money laundering and other illegal actions. So, the government decided to just cut off everything related to cryptocurrencies.
209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you gambling to make money or just for fun? on: July 16, 2021, 04:13:44 PM
Most people would gamble for fun if they don't want to lose a lot of money. I would say, no... why would you bother yourself to gamble if you don't aim to make money? I mean that's where the ultimate fun is because winning is the biggest achievement as a gambler.

The saying that is gamble for fun only maybe means don't gamble seriously so you can move on easily.
While people are gambling for fun, they also do it because they want to earn money. But gambling as a mean of making a living is different in a way that when people gamble, they take it seriously and some may be pushed to go on extremes just to earn their goal. And maybe it would be less fun for these people since results may get into their heads for a longer period of time and emotions will be much affected.
210  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't be too desperate to make earning on: July 16, 2021, 04:03:53 PM
Hate to disagree but short time trading can make you money if you are patient enough to watch the price movement everyday, I think that you will be able to make money out of it. Of course you are right that we shouldn't be desperate about making an earning since there's a likely chance that you might mistake in your haste to make a profit but saying you can't earn in such a short time isn't really true.
I would have to disagree with OP too. Short time trading can bring profits too if a trader knows how to handle and make wise decision. Also, going with the flow of the trend can be such a huge opportunity to make money in just a short span of time. Desperation in making a living can come at a cost of making unnecessary and bad decisions because of too much eagerness. So, determination is what we must all possess instead of mere desperation.
211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Better than "GOLD" for criminals, BTC is easier to steal; Easier to scam; on: July 16, 2021, 03:54:01 PM
I totally agree with your opinion, all control of bitcoin is in our hands, if we are good at storing all the data we have, and successfully storing the keys we have, I think it is difficult for others to take what we have, it all depends on ourselves we ourselves, gold is good, but gold also has drawbacks, if we are not good at keeping the gold we have, they also easily hack what we have, gold and bitcoin have their respective advantages..
That is so true that whether gold or Bitcoin, the owners are the one who are responsible for its safekeeping. Criminals will always be there and will always think of ways to succeed in their bad intentions. So, regardless of what asset a person is holding, if one cannot guarantee its utmost security then it can be stolen. Maybe some think that since cryptocurrency is digitalized, wherein digitalization hacking situations are rampant, that is why they think that it can be easily stolen and scammed.
212  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid lessons learned know when to finish on: July 16, 2021, 03:38:34 PM
I would argue that while knowing when to sell your assets seems like a good lesson to learn there are many others that could have been even more valuable, one of those especially for businesses but that apply to people in general as well is to not indebt yourself too much because things like this happens all the time, in this case it was a pandemic but the 2007 crisis also came out of nowhere and people suffered because of it, and when that happens you do not want to hold any debt, and since we cannot possibly know when a crisis like this can happen then we need to avoid debt at all the times.
Yes, you are definitely right about that. And I think that some ways to avoid debts are to consolidate debts, cut unnecessary spending or avoid impulse purchases and to stay within spending limits. I think that these does not only apply to businesses but to people in general. Amidst the pandemic, I think people have realized the importance of prioritizing one’s needs over wants.

You forgot the biggest lesson of them all which is basic common sense. The reason why the virus continues to spread like crazy around the world is because most humans lacked common sense and ignored precautionary protocols.

The world would have been in a much better state if majority of the people utilised their brains effectively.
Thank you for pointing this out. May it be the common sense, or the lack of discipline and obedience, I could not agree more with you that humanity failed in stopping the spread of the virus due to disobedience to protocols and such.
213  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Reasons why they get it all wrong when trading. on: July 15, 2021, 04:14:31 PM
When we're in greed mindset we failed in trading, it's because we don't know how to handle our decision making. Many opportunities is give to us but we didn't grab it during the time our coins prospered in the marketplace. But, it's not too late to recover all those wasted profit; move forward and don't let fear dominate you in trading. Be smart and decisive to face challenges.
Greedy people tend to put their egos forward, where they seem to want prices to continue to rise. they do not want to learn and understand the market, and tend to push themselves. and what happens next they will regret their decision, because they did not leave the market when the price was at its peak. until finally panic sell that occurs because they are frustrated
I think that we can all agree that greed is not a good thing in general. Greed is a threat; it becomes a hindrance to the direction and on the way to success of a trader. Because of it, bad and impulsive decisions are made, which not only distort profit but the prices in the market as well. Whatever emotion that traders will let take into their heads, such as fear, anxiety or greed, this could lead to irrational and inconsistent market decisions which could sabotage one’s own success.
214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling or playing? on: July 15, 2021, 04:05:09 PM
It may be different for the kids who are professionals. i mean that he really has good and professional skills for playing games and also gambling online. Kids are not very smart and they can easily search and learn about gambling and new gaming everywhere they are.
Basically children should be kept away from gambling and need parental guidance for that. I don't think children will be allowed to gamble in physical casino or online gambling site because there are rules that regulate the age limit for the players. However, for games that contain element of gambling, this will be difficult to prevent because age restriction are rare and can be played anywhere as long as there is an internet connection. Children are never good if they get to know too soon and become addicted to gambling, it can change their behavior for the worse while they only get money from their parent.
As long as you are under the age of 18, you are not allowed to gamble physically or online. For me, there are already rules and if they are violated, there will always be an addiction that cannot be controlled.
If you play this online game there is no limit, I see that even those under 10 years old are now holding gadgets and playing with other friends, let's call it (free fire) but on the other hand it will also have a bad impact because a child that size should learn more active, but with online games being one of the factors where problems exist and easy internet access of course it will be easier for elements to lead to gambling later.
This is indeed true, especially now that children are only at home and gadgets and internet are their companion, this will most likely happen. I can also say that upon my observation, children today are more curious and can easily adapt in their environment, not to mention in exploring the digital world. If they discovered games which are deeply connected with gambling then from adaptation it is also possible for addiction to take place, not to say if parental guidance is lacking or nonexistent at all.
215  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid lessons learned know when to finish on: July 15, 2021, 03:52:20 PM
Those who have invested in the virus before have made a profit but it is foolish to sell it in panic although the price of currencies decreases, the value increases over time. We have learned a lot from covid but there is no guarantee of when it will end when the price goes down it's time to hold on efforts to avoid such disasters have led to unprecedented calls for social distance, forced lockdowns and closures. Schools and businesses will try to limit COVID-19 transmission we must always avoid it.
The lockdowns and restrictions that are happening because of Covid-19 pandemic caused a great deal of damage to businesses. Yes, it is correct that this pandemic taught us many lessons such as the timing of selling of assets. But, of course in these unprecedented times, faith in whatever we are holding to like hope for recovery, belief in God’s grace and many more are also being taught to us.
216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do many mainstream economists always oppose Bitcoin? on: July 15, 2021, 03:46:51 PM

Now suddenly uneducated people are trading Crypto currencies without intermediaries and broker fees and "special" knowledge and those people hate that.  Wink

I couldn't agree more, because when my lecturer taught me how the stock investment flow, that looks like only for they are clever who can invest in stock market meanwhile I was a poor student without much pocket money but really want to come out from the poverty then I found BTC. Although for the first time, I dont believe with BTC but for next my friend encourage me to start investing in BTC and I feel better than before, in crypto market the flow is easy to understand and without broker fee or anything else. Just use ur own brain and that really helps me.
This is something that I would definitely agree with. These people, who can be considered as of the old era, refuse to change their ways and thus influence others. Whereas, with this crypto breakthrough, many realized that there are far more ways to trade and invest aside from those being taught and believed by such people. With crypto, many were uncovered and no biases linger since everyone are welcome.
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dissapointments of the creation of the thousands of failed altcoins. on: July 15, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

People who are scamming are criminals and they are never going to stop until people let them to do, in the investment sector people are investing again and again after they faces many loss which is what feeding the scammers to be here.
I get what you are pointing here, as long as people project themselves as targets and become baits to these scammers, they will continue to exist and lurk around. Although victims are partly responsible for being scammed, I believe that they are only being taken advantage of because of their hopes that sometimes make them blinded and gullible with opportunities.

And to add that with the existing numbers of coins today, people are having hard time to discern which is which, especially the newbies.
218  Economy / Gambling / Re: Biteller.com Cash-Back Betting Rewards - Feedback / Suggestions needed on: July 14, 2021, 04:23:46 PM
This is really great marketing, I think this is my first time seeing a site wherein they don't keep the affiliate reward but share it to the users who register through their affiliate link, so in other words it's a win-win. I was just wondering how would you be able to track for each users who register and wager through your link do we have a unique link for every user and where we could see the information how much we would be the reward?
219  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: not paying? You should unlearn then relearn on: July 14, 2021, 04:19:46 PM
I agree with you OP but I don't think that unlearn and relearn is right, probably we have different perspective I think I'll just go with learn and learn unlearning and relearning might be just a waste of time I think trying to add more learnings will give you better understanding.

Some users may lose big amount probably due to being greedy, wrong analysis or probably just really bad luck since the market is unpredictable but it's part of learning, not because you made a mistake doesn't mean you need to learn again. I think it's part of learning.
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dissapointments of the creation of the thousands of failed altcoins. on: July 10, 2021, 03:35:06 PM
Investors are yet to be disappointed cause they are still investing on new projects which promises them to be the next bitcoin or going to be the best of altcoins but still they are selling it for 50% discount. Did you see anyone selling their bitcoin for half price?

So wakeup from the dream guys, don't look for the next bitcoin since we are encouraging the scammers to steal our Money.
but we see a lot of projects that end up not getting initial funding because otherwise, they can't promise something big to investors. eventually, they also have to stop the project. or as you said, major investors sell their tokens early which will disrupt market development.
The ICO is still running, but I'm sure the thousands of new altcoins right now will be useless. they are in the market but will not grow because the market response focuses on those with great potential.
So only the people who is selling it earlier get all the benefits but what about the remaining investors, so all these new projects are created with the purpose of giving one time profits to some of the investors or they create it to bring any changes in the existing Market.
I have seen this happened with a number of projects and it really did result into the disruption of the maturity of the project in the market and disappointment of the participators in the projects. It is cruel to just think that some are intentionally doing this, taking advantage of the opportunity at the expense of others, leaving them with nothing or losses.
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