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July 15, 2021, 01:50:09 AM
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Even though it's not necessary I think the overall issue is there are games that encourages you to spend money whether it's pay to win or not and the distribution of these cosmetics/items is very similar to gambling. On top of this there are platforms that lets you sell these items for real money even though it's not allowed people still find ways given that the game is very popular. I agree on the first part of what you said though it's not that bad when it's just play money and for now it pretty much depends on how the parents handle it.
Well ngl, what you said have some truth in them. Having cosmetics vs not having them really makes a difference, but it still depends on how the mentality of a person works. I myself don't really care (No, im lying,  I care about cosmetics in SOME games), but I have money anyway. As for kids, well, it's just down to parent management and probably system control and whatnot. Maybe set up some kind of limit or something, or just well, not let your kids know your bank/card details you know? If it's their money earned somewhere then let them spend it, it's their money anyway. Me spending as a kid like that made me grow up and learn how to properly manage my finance ngl.

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July 15, 2021, 01:53:52 AM
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I also knew about this, this related to the kids, video games and games that smelled like gambling should really be separated, for those who are underage would be more familiar with gambling's smells after playing longer. Maybe it would be better if parents should be able to control the activities of their kids, who currently have formal activities on the internet or playing online games.
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July 15, 2021, 02:06:06 AM
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I also knew about this, this related to the kids, video games and games that smelled like gambling should really be separated, for those who are underage would be more familiar with gambling's smells after playing longer. Maybe it would be better if parents should be able to control the activities of their kids, who currently have formal activities on the internet or playing online games.
Even though they only play videogames but usually, they and their friends can make games that don't have an element of gambling but they will still be able to make gambling from the games they play in the videogame itself. So in this case we can say if they will do according to what they find fun, because playing and gambling in that way can be very fun because they do it by mutual agreement too.

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July 15, 2021, 10:56:13 AM
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billions are spent on the online gambling industry every year. from poker to blackjack to sports bets and more normally, adults do not like to play  but there are who like playing game just for fun , and this is good sometime because gambling and risk money in the recent years and specially in the internet the games become a part of gambling , and this is the big problem for this reason people should avoid gambling and playing all the time
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July 15, 2021, 11:02:36 AM
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I'm not really aware of the new games right now that you can play gambling games on it, if that's the case then there should be an age restriction on who are the users or player of this games but I don't think people would be able to stop young people to play gambling games since most of our gambling games today can be easily be accessed by anyone.
So it is still parents awareness and guidance for this not to come along the youngsters way because if does then we will be facing a big problem here.
We knew how hard headed our children nowadays and with this type of games that imposes gambling also?
then we must be there all the time for them to be advised and treat rightfully .
I will never let my Son play such games and i will do anything before this happens.

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July 15, 2021, 11:04:46 AM
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There may be some people who start gambling from playing.
We know that playing games is very fun and many people are being attracted, desired to always play games, moreover those who are addicted.
And nowadays, many young ages or kids are playing any games, during this pandemic, they can hold mobile phone fully daily.

And about gambling, yeah, we cannot avoid that we can find out many gambling advertisement of gambling in the video games. And mostly they re all about attracting people to play gambling or betting with the high chance of winning, a lottery, and many more adv for gambling. And this, exactly, becomes one of the reasons why people are starting to gambliong.

For adults, it may be usual and common enough, moreover we should have our self-management in gambling. However for kids? Well, only limited kids can be. But, if they re interested in gambling, I don't think that they can play well or manage well thei funds, snd psychology. I know this is not a godo start for kids playing gambling.

You are right, but this is a more complex issue than just gambling. In the modern world, children of all ages (I mean those who have access to the Internet) very quickly get access to adult information and opportunities. If parents do not take care of their children, then the question becomes even more acute.

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July 15, 2021, 12:19:31 PM
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I also knew about this, this related to the kids, video games and games that smelled like gambling should really be separated, for those who are underage would be more familiar with gambling's smells after playing longer. Maybe it would be better if parents should be able to control the activities of their kids, who currently have formal activities on the internet or playing online games.

Gambling in a video game is related to the income of the game developer, some games that I know like FFXIV online also have many features such as gambling, especially in rpg and mmorpg games,  these features must be exist, its part of gaming bussiness. and this is made to benefit both gamers and developers. yeah im agree with you if people underage should under his parent control.
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July 15, 2021, 12:56:14 PM
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I also knew about this, this related to the kids, video games and games that smelled like gambling should really be separated, for those who are underage would be more familiar with gambling's smells after playing longer. Maybe it would be better if parents should be able to control the activities of their kids, who currently have formal activities on the internet or playing online games.
If that is related to the kids, I think we must take care of them and not give a chance to access the site, even if that site has a popular game for teenagers. We do not want our kids to start to involve in a game that is contained with gambling or similar like that because that can get in their memory and they can do that again after they grow up.



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July 15, 2021, 02:54:12 PM
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You are right, but this is a more complex issue than just gambling. In the modern world, children of all ages (I mean those who have access to the Internet) very quickly get access to adult information and opportunities. If parents do not take care of their children, then the question becomes even more acute.
Exactly, not only about gaming or gambling but also other negative effects. That is why the role of parents is very important, moreover, kids are commonly not even considering the positive and negative impacts for them. the way they think mostly about what makes them happy and fun at that time.

It may be different for the kids who are professionals. i mean that he really has good and professional skills for playing games and also gambling online. Kids are not very smart and they can easily search and learn about gambling and new gaming everywhere they are.

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It may be different for the kids who are professionals. i mean that he really has good and professional skills for playing games and also gambling online. Kids are not very smart and they can easily search and learn about gambling and new gaming everywhere they are.
Basically children should be kept away from gambling and need parental guidance for that. I don't think children will be allowed to gamble in physical casino or online gambling site because there are rules that regulate the age limit for the players. However, for games that contain element of gambling, this will be difficult to prevent because age restriction are rare and can be played anywhere as long as there is an internet connection. Children are never good if they get to know too soon and become addicted to gambling, it can change their behavior for the worse while they only get money from their parent.

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It may be different for the kids who are professionals. i mean that he really has good and professional skills for playing games and also gambling online. Kids are not very smart and they can easily search and learn about gambling and new gaming everywhere they are.
Basically children should be kept away from gambling and need parental guidance for that. I don't think children will be allowed to gamble in physical casino or online gambling site because there are rules that regulate the age limit for the players. However, for games that contain element of gambling, this will be difficult to prevent because age restriction are rare and can be played anywhere as long as there is an internet connection. Children are never good if they get to know too soon and become addicted to gambling, it can change their behavior for the worse while they only get money from their parent.
As long as you are under the age of 18, you are not allowed to gamble physically or online. For me, there are already rules and if they are violated, there will always be an addiction that cannot be controlled.
If you play this online game there is no limit, I see that even those under 10 years old are now holding gadgets and playing with other friends, let's call it (free fire) but on the other hand it will also have a bad impact because a child that size should learn more active, but with online games being one of the factors where problems exist and easy internet access of course it will be easier for elements to lead to gambling later.

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It may be different for the kids who are professionals. i mean that he really has good and professional skills for playing games and also gambling online. Kids are not very smart and they can easily search and learn about gambling and new gaming everywhere they are.
Basically children should be kept away from gambling and need parental guidance for that. I don't think children will be allowed to gamble in physical casino or online gambling site because there are rules that regulate the age limit for the players. However, for games that contain element of gambling, this will be difficult to prevent because age restriction are rare and can be played anywhere as long as there is an internet connection. Children are never good if they get to know too soon and become addicted to gambling, it can change their behavior for the worse while they only get money from their parent.
As long as you are under the age of 18, you are not allowed to gamble physically or online. For me, there are already rules and if they are violated, there will always be an addiction that cannot be controlled.
If you play this online game there is no limit, I see that even those under 10 years old are now holding gadgets and playing with other friends, let's call it (free fire) but on the other hand it will also have a bad impact because a child that size should learn more active, but with online games being one of the factors where problems exist and easy internet access of course it will be easier for elements to lead to gambling later.
This is indeed true, especially now that children are only at home and gadgets and internet are their companion, this will most likely happen. I can also say that upon my observation, children today are more curious and can easily adapt in their environment, not to mention in exploring the digital world. If they discovered games which are deeply connected with gambling then from adaptation it is also possible for addiction to take place, not to say if parental guidance is lacking or nonexistent at all.

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I have a kid and I don't like it when he is playing games like GTA which are accessible thru Google Play. There is one time that I saw him being really brutal while playing it and I immediately take it off his phone.
The problem:
1. We don't know how the restrictions are set.
2. Some applications don't really put the real age requirement for their games.
Brutality, gambling, bad words or anything that may lead to addiction is not a good thing for new era kids. It affects them and I can see it with my kid although I did try keep him away from all of it.

For me, if it's gambling then stick with it. If its an MMORPG that offers in game gambling, I don't like the idea anymore, it ruins the fun. But that's just my own opinion.

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I don't know if that is good or bad but I will share my experience. I have always enjoyed strategy games and video-games. I think they really helped me develop strategic skills that I then applied in real life situations. I have no idea what games of that sort exist today so I can't say if there are any good ones.
However, if we think about the various simulators used by F1 pilots, fighter planes etc. we can imagine how useful some games are.

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I have a kid and I don't like it when he is playing games like GTA which are accessible thru Google Play. There is one time that I saw him being really brutal while playing it and I immediately take it off his phone.
The problem:
1. We don't know how the restrictions are set.
2. Some applications don't really put the real age requirement for their games.
Brutality, gambling, bad words or anything that may lead to addiction is not a good thing for new era kids. It affects them and I can see it with my kid although I did try keep him away from all of it.

For me, if it's gambling then stick with it. If its an MMORPG that offers in game gambling, I don't like the idea anymore, it ruins the fun. But that's just my own opinion.

Same sentiments as I also have two little boys and I make it sure that every games that they are accessing online or in-play with their devices as really been scanned first before letting them,

That mental influenced will hurt you in the long run as parents,  letting kids to play those brutal games will lead them to act the same way.

In terms to your idea of MMORPG that's been added to gambling, house see that there are people who loves competing and using this venue let them to attract more players to bets.

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I wouldnt say that playing brutal games will make people act with more violence but games definitely affect our feelings and thoughts

the moment I stopped to play counter strike was when I started to dream about it, not good.

Many parents limit the access to screens, including smartphones, to young children until at least 12 years old
I think this is a way to go and may help with their development, empathy and bonds with the world

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There was an article I read recently that analyzed 13 studies into the behaviors of gamers who spend on in-game loot boxes (loot boxes allow players to purchase randomized rewards for character enhancement or game progress). All but one of the studies show that there is a direct correlation between the use of loot boxes and problem gambling behaviour. Although their characteristics have raised concerns and they have grown in popularity, loot boxes still remain unregulated in many countries. However, in some countries, such as Belgium, loot boxes have been deemed gambling products and as such restricted to minors.

The leading gambling charity, GambleAware, has also called for greater regulation.
Zoë Osmond, CEO of GambleAware, said: "This research is part of GambleAware's continued commitment to protect children, adolescents and young people from gambling harms. The research has revealed that a high number of children who play video games also purchase loot boxes and we are increasingly concerned that gambling is now part of everyday life for children and young people."

Link to the whole article: https://www.begambleaware.org/news/gambleaware-publishes-new-gaming-and-gambling-research

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July 16, 2021, 08:15:23 PM
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I wouldnt say that playing brutal games will make people act with more violence but games definitely affect our feelings and thoughts

the moment I stopped to play counter strike was when I started to dream about it, not good.

Many parents limit the access to screens, including smartphones, to young children until at least 12 years old
I think this is a way to go and may help with their development, empathy and bonds with the world
In todays era? Nope, it cant really be avoided no matter how you do turn out to be a strict parent when it comes to gadgets or avoiding them on online interactions or exposure.
We are already on digital age and every corners would really be able to see those gadgets or simply having that accessbility.This is why it is more important that explaining to
them on whats the cons and limitations when it comes to things that you do get involved with.Its not bad to play nor engage on a short time but when you are already
making it as a habit and do look that it is already your main priority then its already an another story to be concerned of.

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July 16, 2021, 08:48:03 PM
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I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Most probably, there's chances of addiction, particularly young people is capable of drowning themselves on mobile games. How much more when there's a gambling platform that used this type of betting, and yet when you're playing at least there's earning a winning profit in the long run.
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July 16, 2021, 09:31:02 PM
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Most people gamble to make profit. Some do it for quick gains, other do it for the adrenaline rush they get. But in the end, everyone has the same goal. To end up with profit. There are some people that gambles for pure fun. They enjoy making profit. Hence, in video games you will see some of them offering the option to gamble with virtual currency or in game currency. People can have fun playing those without risking their real bank.
As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...
If you are talking about those loot boxes, then yeah. They are form of pure gambling and some countries are trying to stop those sort of gambling.
There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?
Most of those games are age restricted. So I doubt any of those underaged players get exposed to those gambling contents.

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