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201  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] [ASIC miner] [Block Erupter USB] [Australia] [Low Shipping Cost] on: July 11, 2013, 03:35:42 AM
NEWS UPDATE:

I have placed the order and they are on the way. I will start shipping on July the 23rd. I will PM everyone with a unique address. Can you please reply PM with your shipping address?

How many did you buy? Could I still order some from you?
202  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: July 10, 2013, 03:00:31 AM
Hey logicalunit i was wondering some advice after reading your page. I've been wanting to do a build...pretty much identical to yours. I already have a raspberry pi and i can obtain free power. I would be getting 5 eruptors like you have. With the drop of BTC i can get them for pretty cheap to start mining. 5 for a little under 400 AUD. With these conditions and your experience would this be worth it to start mining?

Given the drop in price of BTC, and of the Erupters themselves, I would definitely go ahead. Maybe even get 6 instead of 5 for 2.0GH/s (Assuming the hub power supply can deliver 3A reliably -- I have not tested this)

That's just me though. You have to make the decision for yourself. You would be getting a much better deal than I did. Smiley
203  Bitcoin / Armory / Signing messages in Armory on: July 09, 2013, 12:20:59 PM
Hello,

Can someone explain to me how to sign a message in Armory? I want to prove that I own a particular address. I'm trying to use the Message Signing tool, but it's either crashing or not generating a signature.


204  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: July 08, 2013, 03:28:51 AM
Thanks for the encouragement and support, guys! I'll try to keep this thread updated Smiley

Here's an update now:

  • I have mined my first bitcoin, and used it to purchase a Certificate of Deposit.
  • It took 25 days to generate 1 BTC.
  • The rig is completely stable.
  • The offline laptop securely signed the outgoing transactions as intended.
  • I had to create two accounts to buy the CD: one at coinlenders.com, and one at Inputs.io
  • The inputs.io web wallet confirmed the deposit in about 5 minutes, and transfer to coinlenders was instant.
  • The CD will mature in 30 days @ 25.5% APR.

I'm aware that there is a risk associated with lending my BTC, but that's all part of the experiment.

It's also worth mentioning that the price of BTC has crashed. I bought at approx AUD$135, and now it's about AUD$85.
205  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: June 29, 2013, 04:51:45 AM
The rig has now accrued a current uptime of over a week, and has generated about 0.7 BTC in total. The fan has resolved the stability issues.
206  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: June 20, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
25% wow, where would that be.    Ive never heard of virtual savings, we are far down the rabbit hole now.    If this is correct and other financial innovations, there is hope yet

https://www.coinlenders.com/interest

Dawg, I tried to warn you before about the ASICs, but you had already ordered them, so I didn't really want to get into it too much, but seriously, BE-WARE of this coinlenders nonsense. Anyone offering 25% APR is suspect.

Anyone whose website was registered March-22-2013, set to expire March-22-2014 is more suspect.
Any "business" that is run by "whoisguard" is suspect (imho).

Put all those together and you get... super suspicious.

Maybe you've done your due dilligence, I dunno, but I would really hate for this to all end as the tragic story of a guy who got scammed from A-to-Z by the bitcoin world.

I appreciate your candor, and will take your advice. Yes, I got swept up in the whole "cryptocurrency is super-cool" bubble, and didn't fully understand everything before diving in. Rising difficulty is killing me here, and the ASICs were overpriced.

What do you suggest I do? Keep mining and hope the price of BTC will go up, or sell the damn things on eBay before they becomes worthless?
207  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: June 19, 2013, 11:28:35 AM
Any idea how much electricity cost the setup is per day/month?

My energy provider is ActewAGL, and my bill has 2 components: a flat fee of AUD$0.605 per day, plus AUD$0.179 per kWh. The rig draws 20W at most. So to run for thirty days is 30 days * 24 hours * 0.020kW * AUD$0.179 = AUD$2.58
208  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Some questions about block erupter usb on: June 19, 2013, 08:07:12 AM
I had stability issues when running USB eruptors without a fan: hashrate in cgminer started to drop after a few days. The arctic breeze usb fan is perfect for cooling the block eruptors, and it does lower HW error rate by about 0.2%
209  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: USB ASIC ERUPTER - Setup & Config. BCG Miner, cgminer & Hubs "Oh Pi"! on: June 19, 2013, 05:44:05 AM
I've got the same/similar setup(hub/pi/bfgminer).  when i plugged in 7 sticks i had 2 give problems.  one was puking errors and the other refused to hash.

i unplugged 1 stick and started a fan blowing across the 6 USB sticks.  the 1 stick which was previously giving >10% hw errors started hashing normally.
the 6 sticks even after not clearing errors are now averaging ~1% hw errs over 30 hours now.  the actual rate should be much lower once i restart and clear the counters.  i measured the sticks at 140 degrees F without the fan.  with fan they're comfortable to the touch.

How much current does your power adapter deliver? The USB eruptors require 500mA each. The DUB-H7 can deliver 3A, which is 5 eruptors and 1 fan, or 6 eruptors.
210  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: USB ASIC ERUPTER - Setup & Config. BCG Miner, cgminer, Hubs "Oh Pi"! on: June 19, 2013, 03:27:12 AM
I was just talking about that, I am not sure ROI will be reached inside of 365 days sadly. There is however a growing market on the auction sites which could be profitable. I have a fan mounted on my rack which moves air across all the mining hardware, I had a usb fan but it was causing hardware errors on a couple of the AMUs, I suspect the fan is a power hog and the DLink did not have it to spare. I have been running for 6+ Hours with NO issues  Grin

What's your HW error % rate? Divide HW by A to get it. Mine is 0.8%.

EDIT: You might need to calculate it individually because you have other hardware besides the AMUs.
211  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.2.2 on: June 19, 2013, 02:27:03 AM
Found a bug in 3.2.1: after several days of running, the output became all HW errors. I didn't manage to get a screenshot of it because it went back to normal after looking at the Pools settings, but could it be an integer overflow somewhere in the code? The hardware was still functioning normally.
212  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: USB ASIC ERUPTER - Setup & Config. BCG Miner, cgminer, Hubs "Oh Pi"! on: June 19, 2013, 02:20:02 AM
6 - AMU devices thru a Raspberry Pi running MinePeon (6-11-2013 rev) and mining with CGMiner 3.2.1, I can confirm the DLink DUB-7H powered hub does work. I DID NOT use any of the icarus options nor timing when launching CGMiner.

Hey, buddy! We've got a similar setup! What's your guess about the ROI of the AMUs?

BTW, what sort of cooling are you using, if any?
213  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: June 19, 2013, 01:09:31 AM
25% wow, where would that be.    Ive never heard of virtual savings, we are far down the rabbit hole now.    If this is correct and other financial innovations, there is hope yet

https://www.coinlenders.com/interest
214  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: USB ASIC ERUPTER - Setup & Config. BCG Miner, cgminer, Hubs "Oh Pi"! on: June 18, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
What's the formula to calculate HW error % rate? HW divided by A?

That is how I'm calculating it.

In that case I'm getting about 0.8% error with cooling. Without cooling I'm getting 1.0%

However, without cooling, my hashrate starts to drop after a couple of days. The fan seems to fix this.
215  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: beginer on: June 18, 2013, 02:17:10 AM
i would like to get some info how to get started on mining?
any tutorials?? i know im not gona make tons of money, i would like to start as a hobby.

Welcome! Smiley

Your first decision to make is what platform you are going to use. As far as I know, there are 3 major options: GPU (based on your graphics card), FPGA (field-programmable gate array), and ASIC (application-specific integrated circuit). They all have their strengths and weaknesses, including cost, hashrate, power consumption, and availability. I personally think the custom USB ASIC devices are the way to go. The Butterfly Labs Jalapeno seems to be the best device at the moment -- but they are scarce. I personally went with the USB Block Eruptor, but I overpaid @ BTC 2.6 each for five.

The simplest thing to do would be to run guiminer and mine from your graphics card. No additional hardware needed.

If you want to try custom hardware, the easiest thing would be to just stick one Block Eruptor into a spare USB port and watch the Satoshis flow in.

If you want a more robust setup, you could invest in a Raspberry Pi (it's basically a tiny computer that can run Linux) and a powered USB hub to drive numerous Block Eruptors. Just be aware that it could take a year or more to get your investment back -- and who knows what the price of BTC will be then.

Just make sure you know what you're getting into, and you'll have fun.  Grin
216  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How to use low performance mining devices on: June 18, 2013, 01:50:27 AM
Hello all,

I would like to use some low cost hardware for mining. It's based on the Cortex A9 processor (probably like the one in your smartphone) and by rough estimates it will clock in at around 1.5 mh/s.

I understand that with this sort of hashing power I will not likely be quitting my day job anytime soon. But that's ok, this is just a proof of concept for me at the moment.

Question is can such a device be used for mining *at all* ? What I'm worried about is the time it will take to find a share on just about any pool. Won't every share returned be stale? Would it help if I ran a stratum proxy and then told a bunch of these Cortex based devices to proxy through that?

- Michael



I had a similar idea based on a Spartan 3E FPGA, but I determined that it's just not worth it. If you want to experiment with mining, do it on your GPU.
217  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: USB ASIC ERUPTER - Setup & Config. BCG Miner, cgminer, Hubs "Oh Pi"! on: June 18, 2013, 01:47:10 AM
What's the formula to calculate HW error % rate? HW divided by A?
218  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is mining worth it at this point? on: June 17, 2013, 05:47:56 AM
Here's what I've learned from my case study: rising difficulty and high hardware costs make USB Block Eruptors less effective than I'd hoped. Mining is only worth it if you think the price of BTC will go up again.
219  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: USB ASIC ERUPTER - Setup & Config. BCG Miner, cgminer, Hubs "Oh Pi"! on: June 17, 2013, 02:13:44 AM
I can confirm that with proper cooling, the HW error rate of the Block Eruptor drops to a fraction of the rate without cooling. The Arctic Breeze USB fan is ideal for this, although you may have trouble fitting it into your USB hub. I used a separate USB power supply.
Their fans were not doing the trick so....their idea did as errors rate dropped after mod.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220905.msg2479246#msg2479246

Actually, scratch what I said. I haven't run the rig long enough to see if the cooling affects the HW error rate this much. Watch this space.
220  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: June 17, 2013, 01:58:15 AM
This will make an interesting read 5-10 years from now.

It might appear prehistoric just by year end.   How long will it take this rig to earn back 13 BTC.    Depends where prices go but it could good or bad depending where btc price goes.

Because these miners use less electricity its possible BTC price in dollars falls even though the hardware cost is higher short term

You are absolutely correct that this project will succeed or fail depending on the price of BTC.

I've come to realise that I underestimated the challenge posed by rising difficulty. Also, the price of the hardware was rather high. However, BTC interest rates are also high -- around 25% per annum -- so I can offset these losses by purchasing Certificates of Deposit. The plan is to keep the currency in Bitcoins, NOT cash out to fiat.
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