Am I supposed to think the whole country is represented by that group of skinheads/hooligans singing? Sad people, no doubt about it, but Israel is meant to be more civilized than that... even if a huge majority (at both sides) is supporting that war... Damn! :/ Yes they are your typical nazi brainless thugs same that oppressed the Jews in the holocaust, Wake the fuck up! Jews cant be Nazi,facist maybe,but not Nazi. please learn what Nazism means before talking bullcrap. On topic:The Palestininans reap what they sow. and vice versa. Both Nazism and Zionists are fascist ideologies, two sides of the same coin No,they arent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_ZionismDefenders of Zionism say it is a national liberation movement for the repatriation of a dispersed socio-religious group to what they see as an abandoned homeland millennia before.[5][6][7] Critics of Zionism see it as a colonialist[8] or racist[9] ideology that led to the denial of rights, dispossession and expulsion of the "indigenous population of Palestine".[10][11][12][13] "Critics" Still dosent have to do anything with Nazism. |
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give it to me, I don't mind  I prefer not to give it away for nothing. Then I will raffle or auction it and donate the money to the Red Cross for Israel-Gaza victims. Not sure why you should blame normal people for governments..
I don't blame 'normal' people, that's why my second sentence starts with "I don't blame the...." Thought about sending the unit to Gaza but yesterday Isreal bombed the last power plant.  In other words you blame them politely. |
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Am I supposed to think the whole country is represented by that group of skinheads/hooligans singing? Sad people, no doubt about it, but Israel is meant to be more civilized than that... even if a huge majority (at both sides) is supporting that war... Damn! :/ Yes they are your typical nazi brainless thugs same that oppressed the Jews in the holocaust, Wake the fuck up! Jews cant be Nazi,facist maybe,but not Nazi. please learn what Nazism means before talking bullcrap. On topic:The Palestininans reap what they sow. and vice versa. Both Nazism and Zionists are fascist ideologies, two sides of the same coin No,they arent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism |
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Banned for not having a signature like mine.
banned for having a differnet signature Banned for not having a capital letter at the beginning of the sentence and mis-spelling "different"! Banned for being a gramer nazi. |
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And african children starve. so what lol. Not sure why you should blame normal people for governments..
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Am I supposed to think the whole country is represented by that group of skinheads/hooligans singing? Sad people, no doubt about it, but Israel is meant to be more civilized than that... even if a huge majority (at both sides) is supporting that war... Damn! :/ Yes they are your typical nazi brainless thugs same that oppressed the Jews in the holocaust, Wake the fuck up! Jews cant be Nazi,facist maybe,but not Nazi. please learn what Nazism means before talking bullcrap. On topic:The Palestininans reap what they sow. and vice versa. |
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of course there is no doubt that the tunnels into Gaza are being used to carry out strikes in Isreal. but do you know why they are tunneling into isreal?.... A) they are surrounded by Isreal. and B) they are trying to get their land back. there are tunnels going into Egypt too but are Hamas going into Egypt to carry out attacks? A)and Egypt. B) Did you mean Jewish land? Gaza borders Israel proper,which is legal Israeli land,not the West Bank You realy think 1-10 fighters can take out all of Israel? lol. small atacks like these dont get your land back,they make things even worser. there just simply is no way that Isreal will pull out of the west bank when there are nearly 400,000 Jews living there now.
the successive Isreali government settlement policies have destroyed any possibility of a real two state solution. Israel can annex parts of the West Bank with Jewish majority,giving the Arabs who live there Israeli citizenship,the rest goes to Palestine. |
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the only way for this madness to end is for Palestinians to be given equal rights and an equal say in how the land is governed. You cannot suppress indefinitely the human desire to be free. Everyone who has ever tried it in the entire history of humanity has ultimately failed. A one sided action. do you realy think the Palestininans and Jews will turn into care bears and suddenly forget anything and co exist happily? ill remind you Hamas' motto is to liberate all occupied lands.. and by occupied they mean all of Israel.. Hamas have officially stated on several occasions they will follow the will of the Palestinian people in that regard: that is, they will accept the will of the people if they choose to recognize Israel - and in truth, they have already gone even further, by accepting the conditions the Quartet had imposed on them, when they formed the union government earlier this year. "Ismail Haniyah and Khaled Meshaal have also stated repeatedly that "Palestine – from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea, from its north to its south – is our land, our right, and our homeland. There will be no relinquishing or forsaking even an inch or small part of it,"[11] and that "we shall not relinquish the Islamic waqf on the land of Palestine, and Jerusalem shall not be divided into Western and Eastern Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a single united [city], and Palestine stretches from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, and from Naqoura [Rosh Ha-Niqra] to Umm Al-Rashrash [Eilat] in the south."[12][13]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Covenant De facto there is no unity government,there is still Hamas,Islamic Jihad,Fatah and many other small groups. If there was a unity government,Israel would bomb the West Bank as well in response for the rockets,nobody wants that to happen. Now, will that magically undo half a century of occupation? No, but you've got to start somewhere. Occupation.. and rocket attacks,suicide bombing,shootings,etc,the Israelis won't forget that easily. |
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Tunnels Lead Right to the Heart of Israeli FearNEAR THE ISRAEL-GAZA BORDER — The curved concrete top of the tunnel grazes the dark-brown buzz cut of Lt. Col. Oshik Azulai, putting it 5 feet and 7 inches above the sand floor. The walls are about 30 inches apart — wide enough for two people to squeeze past each other, unless both are in body armor. It is cool in the tunnel, 46 feet under, and dark, of course. Cellphones do not work.
Colonel Azulai, deputy commander of the Israeli military’s Southern Gaza Division, said this tunnel stretched eight-tenths of a mile into Israel, next to a field filled with watermelon, ripe but unpicked because of the war. It ended about 600 yards from Kibbutz Ein Hashlosha, a rural enclave of 325, but was unfinished: Unlike the tunnels used to infiltrate Israel from Gaza in recent days, this one still had electric lines along the wall and carriage tracks used to ferry out dirt.
Destroying such tunnels was the stated goal of Israel’s ground invasion of Gaza, which began July 17. But 11 days into the mission, and after Israeli officials say they have found 31 tunnels and destroyed 15, Palestinian militants again penetrated underground into Israel on Monday evening and confronted soldiers in a staging area. Multiple soldiers were killed, a senior military official said, as was at least one of the men from Gaza.
“We will not complete the operation without neutralizing the tunnels, the sole purpose of which is the destruction of our civilians and the killing of our children,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel declared in a televised address afterward. “It cannot be that the citizens of the state of Israel will live under the deadly threats of missiles and infiltration through tunnels — death from above and death from below.” More+video... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/29/world/middleeast/tunnels-lead-right-to-heart-of-israeli-fear.html?_r=1 the Isrealis should learn something from the German concentration camps back in WW2 as long as you keep people locked behind walls and barbed wire.. they will spend all their time trying to tunnel out. all this proves is that if people want to get around a wall they will and until you deal with the issues and deal with the root causes, this problem will continue. could you imagine if the people of the west bank started digging tunnels? every single settlement in the west bank and even cities like Jerusalem would be threatened. its time to admit that netanyahoo and his government, far from making Israelis safe, has only made the problem worse by continually paying people to go and live on stolen land in the west bank where they are easily exposed to danger and continually stoking the fires of hatred by the excessive use of rhetoric. the only way for this madness to end is for Palestinians to be given equal rights and an equal say in how the land is governed. You cannot suppress indefinitely the human desire to be free. Everyone who has ever tried it in the entire history of humanity has ultimately failed. Emancipation is an inalienable right. if the shoe were on the other foot and Palestinians were oppressing Jews. the outcome would be exactly the same. in fact people forget that the Jews were building tunnels and bombing government buildings back when the British empire was in control of the land. the Isrealis should learn something from the German concentration camps back in WW2
as long as you keep people locked behind walls and barbed wire.. they will spend all their time trying to tunnel out. Yea.. but building a tunnel to Israel is like trying to build a tunnel from Auschwitz to Berlin.. Plus,the tunnels are used by Hamas to send terrorists to infiltrate Israel and kill anything you see.. http://online.wsj.com/articles/gaza-residents-see-growing-toll-in-israel-fight-1405758914the only way for this madness to end is for Palestinians to be given equal rights and an equal say in how the land is governed. You cannot suppress indefinitely the human desire to be free. Everyone who has ever tried it in the entire history of humanity has ultimately failed. A one sided action. do you realy think the Palestininans and Jews will turn into care bears and suddenly forget anything and co exist happily? ill remind you Hamas' motto is to liberate all occupied lands.. and by occupied they mean all of Israel.. |
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Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.
Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.
If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.
Just one question, when has Islam ever live in peace with their neighbors and in what period has it ever dominance in commerce? The country I live in, they don't even tolerate the local minority population. I don't understand your the point of your question, because the answer would be the same everywhere heck to prove my point, maybe you need to check the list of deadliest wars in history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_tollnot a single war related to Islam in the top 15 actually, but I can understand that will all the media acharnament people can easly mistake, and this is the reason that I don't believe in media but I do a little bit of search before advancing something But if you look at a list of ongoing armed conflicts with 1000+ deaths per year,8 out of 10 of those wars involves Muslims. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts |
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So "activity" is just based on your previous activity regardless of posting during the week?
So for me at 364 I would make 0.00728/week. Hmm most others pat .1 per 50 posts/month. So I think I'll stick with my current campaign unless I am missing something.
With this one you dont have to post,thats the point |
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Still waiting for payment from 25/7.
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When 3 Israeli go missing it gives the justification to slaughter over 800 Palestinians  Actually,it is a response for the constant rocket fire and terror attacks on Israel Which was the legitimate retaliation to the Nazi occupation by the terrorist state Israel of Palestinian land Lol. killing Israeli civilians is a legitimate response for the "Nazi" occupation? that makes you no better than those who kill Palestinian children. BTW,look how much death and destruction this "legitimate retaliation" has brought on the Palestinians. |
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When 3 Israeli go missing it gives the justification to slaughter over 800 Palestinians Actually,it is a response for the constant rocket fire and terror attacks on Israel |
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They have a "fight until death" culture and religion. which means they'd rather die than surrender
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Israel's point of existence is actually to provide a safe place for Jews after the Holocaust.
Zionism started as a movement more than 50 years before the holocaust. the Name Isreal (the name of a kingdom which had been dead for 3000 years) was chosen by the Zionists to give their movement some kind of legitimacy. the Zionist movement and the National Socialist movement (Nazism) actually have a shared history and go hand in hand. they are in a sense reactions to each other. Nazism was a reaction to the power of the Banks/Merchants/Jews and Zionism was a reaction the the discrimination that the Jews faced in Germany. just like Hamas and Right Wing Zionism (ie the settler movement) are reactions to each other today.. without the one you simply can't have the other. the point of Isreal is to further the cause of Zionism.. it goes much further than simply providing a safe place for Jews. Providing a safe place for Jews does not necessitate the invasion of other countries, the military occupation and outright theft of Palestinian land for more than 50 years.. the summary execution of protesters, the countless jailing of political prisoners and the human rights and International law violations. In fact the UK and the US, Canada, Australia, NZ etc are far more safer places for orthodox Jews than Isreal. Orthodox Jews do not get beaten for protesting in those countries.. Nor do they get forced to join the army in those countries but they do in Isreal.. this is news from the Isreali Press just a few days old... maybe you should read it and you might learn something about Isreal. http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Report-Three-Palestinians-killed-in-West-Bank-violence-368926do police and civilians that steal land (aka settlers) shoot protesters in your country? I feel really sorry for you if they do. Antisemitism existed long before the Holocaust,the official goal of the Zionist movement was to establish a Jewish state in the Holy Land. Israel is basically a solution for the Jewish question. Providing a safe place for Jews does not necessitate the invasion of other countries the military occupation and outright theft of Palestinian land for more than 50 years Not exactly,Arab aggression towards Israel does necessitate an Israeli response. Both sides don't want each other on their land,that's why they fight. In fact the UK and the US, Canada, Australia, NZ etc are far more safer places for orthodox Jews than Isreal. Orthodox Jews do not get beaten for protesting in those countries.. Nor do they get forced to join the army in those countries but they do in Isreal.. The Holocaust proved Jews will never be safe on forgein land. with rising anti semitism and muslim immigration Jews are already unsafe,and because they dont have an army they cant fight back,unlike Jews in Israel. People get killed during riots. especially when they shoot and throw molotovs on the police. nothing new here |
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if Israel, goes to pre-1967 there won't any war
Wrong. Hamas wants to liberate ALL of the holy land from zionist control,including the pre 1967 borders,Hamas and many other pro Palestinians consider all of Israel an occupied territory. Besides,the Palestinians were given a chance to live peacefully in the 2 state solution in 1947,they refused and declared war instead. Hammas only point to exist is to try to get Israel out of their holy land and to promote their religion.
this is the point of Isreal too or did you not know that? Isreals only point to exist is to try to get Non Jews out of their holy land and to promote their religion. Israel's point of existence is actually to provide a safe place for Jews after the Holocaust. |
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Dont see a problem with arresting members of an internationally recognised terror group. Except that most of the people that were arrested were innocent, and the other part that were released, were leased following a deal that WAS NOT HONOROD by Israel but again you are derailing from the fact the point you claimed that Hamas started the hostilities, where did that go? Self defence=retaliating against the rocket fire on Israel coming out of Gaza.
Source for that 1 children per hour?
Anyway children die in war.
I dont know what kind of a genocider gives warning to civilians before bombing terror sites,gives free electricity,medicine and other supplies for the victim. Also the growing Palestinian population shows this is not a genocide. If Israel wanted to genocide the Palestinians,they would have already done it long ago.
Thats your own definition on self definition here is the definition of self defense according to prominent dictionaries, and in the law : http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-defensehttp://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/self-defencehttp://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/self-defensehttp://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1909http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/self-defense.htmlUse of reasonable force (as compared with the attacker's force) in protection of one's person, family, property, or anyone else against attempted or threatened attack. Legal doctrine of self defense justifies a preemptive action taken in the reasonable belief of immediate danger, without making any retreat, and may (specially in case of provocation) condone killing of the perpetrator of a murderous attack. Except that as proven above it was Israel that attacked first, so this whole argument is totally false as and by your logic here it's Hamas that is on self defense here (Hamas in my eyes is a terrorist group as they targeting indiscriminately Israeli civilians but Israel is even worse by this same definition) As for Israel warning civilians please lol, the so called warning bombs killed over 30 Palestinians, there thousands of strikes that were made without warning, you seems to avoid the part when I site the example of the 8 years old children that were playing in the beach, or just today the UN Shelter that was blown to dust resulting in the death of 30-40 Palestinians and hundreds of injuries (this is a crime war btw according to UN rules) This is a genocide, look up the recent genocides listed according to the UN, and you'll see that what's happening in Gaza is similar to those in terms of numbers and events When you investigate a murder,you're gonna arrest some people,especially in a hostile territory where every citizen can be a murder suspect due to their extreme hate of Jews&Israel The question "who started" will take you nowhere and can go back to 1948. i can say Hamas started by suicide attacking Israelis in 2002. Israel can't make warning for every attack,the target can escape. I didn't say Israel is always 100% right,but people,including innocents die during war. That UN school might have hosted hamas rockets,who knows? they found Hamas rockets in UNRWA schools twice,therfore making it a valid target http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schoolsDefine "Genocide" |
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200,000 dead from a civil war justifies sanctions.
700 dead in self defense against rocket attacks is less sanctionable. Besides the Arab league and other Muslim and 3rd world countries sanction Israel and some European countries dont buy products from Israeli settlements.
there is no self defence israel initiated this latest round of festivities when it re arrested 100s of hamas in the west bank and carried out extrajudicial killings in its search for the murderers of 3 settlers which as it turns out were done by isis and nothing to do with hamas Dont see a problem with arresting members of an internationally recognised terror group. 200,000 dead from a civil war justifies sanctions. If its a civil war who do you sanction ? And why ? 700 dead in self defense against rocket attacks is less sanctionable. Define "self defence". How is it not genocide when 1 Palestinian child is killed per hour ? For me, any kind of "moral capital"/sympathy vote that the Jews might have gained from their horrendous experience during the 2nd World War (and they were not the only ones) has well and truly been exhausted now. This must end. Self defence=retaliating against the rocket fire on Israel coming out of Gaza. Source for that 1 children per hour? Anyway children die in war. I dont know what kind of a genocider gives warning to civilians before bombing terror sites,gives free electricity,medicine and other supplies for the victim. Also the growing Palestinian population shows this is not a genocide. If Israel wanted to genocide the Palestinians,they would have already done it long ago. |
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Nobody cares about 200,000 (compare that to 700 in Gaza) Dead in Syria,what makes you think they will care about Gaza? i guess people get pissed only when Jews kill Muslims and not when Muslims kill Muslims.
bullshit, there are sanctions against syria, nothing against israel As for Hamas being funded by arab countries, this claim not only is totally wrong but also proves you don't gasp the situation really well, Hamas only support is coming from Iran the arabs countries in the region consider Hamas as a threat due to geopolitical reason (Iran again and in case of egypt it's the army take over regime )
does iran still help hamas? figured it would have pulled the plug when they backed the wrong side in the syrian civil war but i don't know 200,000 dead from a civil war justifies sanctions. 700 dead in self defense against rocket attacks is less sanctionable. Besides the Arab league and other Muslim and 3rd world countries sanction Israel and some European countries dont buy products from Israeli settlements. the world is watching... nobody can hide the truth anymore. neither isreal nor hamas.
thousands of smart phones on the ground and even people watching from the skies.
Oh yes, now the world know the truth! But no one intervenes .....  . they don't have to.. when the people know the truth they will stop this madness. the UN is already investigating alleged war crimes by Isreal. unlike super powers China and the USA... Isreal cannot continue to make war without serious financial help from outside. Hamas too cannot wage war without being funded from some of the Arab league nations the financial help they are getting from the US, any UN resolution cannot be applied due to US veto, heck even the Crime war investigations the US voted NO (the only country to do so....) some has strong Lobby. As for Hamas being funded by arab countries, this claim not only is totally wrong but also proves you don't gasp the situation really well, Hamas only support is coming from Iran the arabs countries in the region consider Hamas as a threat due to geopolitical reason (Iran again and in case of egypt it's the army take over regime )
Well then where is the media/internet/Muslim world now? 1000+ killed in Syria in the last week.they are Gone. they come out of hiding only when issues involve Israel.
Maybe you missed the part that the arabs/muslims were part of that support and were financing the Syrian freedom army till shit happened, everyone is laying down right now being afraid of taking responsibility but again it's not the arabs or the muslims as you name them that have the power to implement and apply UN resolutions. You also claiming Muslims having problem with Israel as if it is a religious conflict, yet ALL the surrounding countries are in peace with Israel, and this is just an attempt to divert attention, the reality is Israel colonizing Palestine according to UN resolutions and La Haye supreme court, Israel is Killing hundreds of Civilians Palestinians with 50% being children and women and making hundred of thousands of injured and disabled, stealing their land and resources and kicking Palestinians out of their territories (if you didn't know there are over 5 millions Palestinians refugee that don't have the right to go back to their land and properties ..... what's happening right now in Gaza is a genocide ! ISIS is huge danger right now and they just took over Iraq (the country where freedom was spread) and they are expanding rapidly, how aren't they a danger? So i guess Muslims are not afraid of supporting Hamas which is a terrorist organization that many Arabs and Palestinians dislike? id keep with the fact that Muslims hate it when Jews kill them but are fine/unwilling to take action when Muslims kill Muslims. AKA hypocrisy. Israel never signed a peace treaty with Syria and Lebanon,the peace with Jordan and Egypt is hated by the people. Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005,yet Hamas keeps harassing Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gazaif you didn't know there are over 5 millions Palestinians refugee that don't have the right to go back to their land and properties So you say modern Israel is responsible for the actions of 1948 Israel? anyway its not their land anymore,at least most of it. I dont support the killing of innocents,but Hamas brought the invasion on himself and on his people when he kept firing rockets on Israel. Hamas doesn't care about the Palestinian people. If whats happening in Gaza is a genocide i guess Israel is really bad at genociding. |
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