Hello, first off sorry if this is the wrong area, feel free to move it, I couldn't see a better subforum.

This is a public declaration of my intent to resell the 'mystery box' as we'll call it, to binaryFate, and an audit trail for others to see payment is made etc.

The 'mystery box' is, to the best of my knowledge, a box of USB miners being sent from ASICMINER. I have reason to believe there's 20 in it, going by:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=282910.msg3196578#msg3196578 and
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=282910.msg3196946#msg3196946
and also given that I also purchased 4 blades in batch 2 (you can dig out my winning bid in that crazy second auction thread yourself, it's non-editable anyway.)

We've hashed out some details in PM, so here goes:
- I have DHL tracking saying package is enroute from Shenzhen, I expect to get it in a week or less.
- binaryFate has agreed to send 1 BTC to 1Gh5SG1A6n8Nrw4pCG9Jf4AECFF7ko4tYd as payment for it this evening. This covers both the importation fee and cost of reposting it onwards.
- I'll pay the £58 importation fee as soon as 1 BTC received (if no BTC received, I'll just refuse delivery in a week and have it sent back).
- Fluctuations in BTC value between now and reposting the box have no bearing on this agreement, I won't ask for more if BTC drops to $1, binaryFate won't ask for a refund if it soars to $300.
- I'll provide binaryFate with the DHL tracking link at this time as well.
- I'll relabel and send onto binaryFate the unopened box the same day it arrives (please PM me the address binaryFate)
- I'll use the best available postage within reason, to try and get some tracking details (I know this is ambiguous, but I don't know what's available to send a package of unknown size to an unknown address right now, all I know is the destination country!)

I've added a few extra points in besides what we discussed in PM so please read those over binaryFate (notably the BTC value and the tracking link)


from PM:
and I hereby agree with the above statements.


If anyone sees any detail I obviously missed please point it out.

If you're happy with all that binaryFate, please quote me and send payment, will confirm once received and be in regular contact on this thread

Got a mail too. 'USB DONGLES NO BATTERY', 1 piece (but how many are in the box is anyone's guess).

How do you know you're getting 20? (I bought four blades in second batch also)

It's a nice gesture but frankly I don't really want them and I'm being charged £58 import fee just to receive them, so if anyone wants them they can have whatever is in the box for £58. If no takers I'll probably just refuse delivery (sorry friedcat).

No. No they don't. You can prove this to yourself quite easily, look at other posts by other members on that forum. Lets take an example, http://forum.onverse.com/showthread.php?p=334731#post334731

Hover over that icon and observe 'Send a message via Skype to Martin Abernathy'.

Skype doesn't allow spaces in usernames (source: skype website, right now, go to Sign up and hover over '?' near username). So that can't be his skype username, ergo that forum simply uses the forum username in that popup.

Depends how creativex plans to sell it. If at auction, I vote no for this addition, it will restrict the price we can achieve.

Actually, depending on the regulators used, the blades may very well be able to accept anything from 5v to 24v and still put 12v out on the other side for the blade to use, such parts do exist. I wouldn't like to try it myself without being told in the specs that it'll work though.

It's a demo. There's no real money. So nobody will mind if TF shuts the demo down and disappears into the night, will they?

Nobody's saying there shouldn't be a disclaimer, but CL's are starting to border on absurd.


If you say so. Let me be the first to say that if CL were to run into trouble most depositors would have their coins out as quick as their browser would let them, and they'd move it somewhere else with the next best returns, leaving TF to fight his own battles. Sorry.

TF, why not just comply with all relevant laws and legislations, instead of jumping through hoops that won't make any difference? Too much like hard work?

At the end of the day, you're still taking deposits from the public which makes you a bank, however you want to word it makes no difference.

In my country (UK), this would subject you to the might of the FSA (good documentary on Channel 4 last year about this, 'Bank of Dave', an individual setup his own bank and had to become FSA approved just like every other big bank).

No, nothing has changed. I have my doubts as to whether the legal position has changed either, but I'm sure TF has received good legal advice on the matter, so what do I know.

Very clever TradeFortress

Is TradeFortress willing to facilitate the account locking and essentially act as escrow/collateral holder for this?

Really hope you meant 8/14/2012

In light of today's news, any change on position here?

That's pretty much what the colour of the Ignore button is. The brighter it is, the more people ignored them. I've been enjoying watching his steadily grow brighter and brighter by the hour.

More details on how their bitcoin acceptance works, quite interesting:

http://www.individualpubs.co.uk/bitcoin.html

Quite a few voices in the blade sales thread saying they're not getting responses to requests to buy blades now.

Clearly it would be a waste of friedcat's time to reply to everyone saying why they can't have a blade so we'll have to guess. Have they stopped/slowed down selling for a bit to regain some more network share maybe?

60

571 just for one passthrough - asicminer is more than just one passthrough, there are other shareholders (sadly)

Clearly never been to Vegas and seen black come up 20 times?

I think 7 losses in 8 (assuming he's at 50%) is a lot more common than you'd expect.

Sweet Jesus no. That looks wrong on so many levels. If you want to express amounts in mBTC or Satoshis and then use thousand separators where they're supposed to be, on the LEFT SIDE OF THE DOT, then people would understand it.