I don't think this test is trustworthy, not to say completely useless. Poolside average hashrate - such as can be determined from the pool I was using, as it does not provide a simple moving average graph - was roughly the same as what hsrminer reported, but the actual amount of TZC that I earned was substantially less than predicted by minethecoin.com using hsrminer's reported hashrate and the average difficulty for the last 24 hours.
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You will never get the coins whattomine says because the difficulty changes literally every block. The only way to measure which miner you should be using is mining for an extended period of time and taking a look at both the shares submitted at the pool and the hashrate reported at the pool. You can never look at the coins earned because of the difficulty variable and you can never say I made 50 coins today with CCMiner and 75coins the day before with HSRMiner, because that tells you nothing since the difficulty determines coins earned. I just finished a 7 hour test with CCMiner mining TZC and confirmed the hashrate and shares submitted are lower than Hsrminer. The miner reports about 100-200 kh/s less than hsrminer per card on the miner itself and that's the result I was seeing in shares submitted and hashrate on the pool itself. I was skeptical, but after this test I can't really dispute the reported rates. I will say my hashrate with one card is higher than when I have a bunch of them running. I have this same problem with all miners though.. Sorry, I meant to write that the site I used for average difficulty was minethecoin.com, not whattomine.com. I just concluded a full 24 hour test of hsrminer after doing a 24 hour test of ccminer which was preceded by a ~5 hour test of hsrminer, etc., and the results are not pretty; see post above this one. EDIT - actually, I did refer to minethecoin and not whattomine in the post you referenced, so whatchootalkinboutwillis? MagicSmoker, I don't mean to be insulting but you have very little understanding of how to compare miners. Comparing how many coins you get is absolutely useless. Coins mined means nothing, zero, zilch. You can't predict a difficulty level so using coins as a comparison method is worthless. Stop posting about how miners are better or worse by measuring coins, it's silly.. |
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So I have been reading up on this thread and saw that a lot of people say they are not getting the same hash rates at the pool as what the local miner reports. This has had me worried. I run a small farm and I directed all my cards to use the hsrminer.
I have taken one card out of the batch and created a new Nicehash wallet, to see exactly what hsrminer does.
1. On my side the miner disconnects every hour and mines for about 30-60 seconds to the devs wallet.
2. Below the hash rate reported by the miner. This is a evga 1070 running at 70 power target - 137 core and 495 mem. The miner reports an avg of 1088 kH/s
I don't think this test is trustworthy, not to say completely useless. Poolside average hashrate - such as can be determined from the pool I was using, as it does not provide a simple moving average graph - was roughly the same as what hsrminer reported, but the actual amount of TZC that I earned was substantially less than predicted by minethecoin.com using hsrminer's reported hashrate and the average difficulty for the last 24 hours. I am retesting hsrminer on the same pool now - results available in about 12 hours - but so far at just a little over the halfway mark I have earned 44.5 TZC vs. a predicted earnings of 63.5, or about 30% less, which is even worse than my previous test of hsrminer (24% less than predicted). EDIT - I should note that this is on the official TZC pool which finds a block every 4 minutes on average. You will never get the coins whattomine says because the difficulty changes literally every block. The only way to measure which miner you should be using is mining for an extended period of time and taking a look at both the shares submitted at the pool and the hashrate reported at the pool. You can never look at the coins earned because of the difficulty variable and you can never say I made 50 coins today with CCMiner and 75coins the day before with HSRMiner, because that tells you nothing since the difficulty determines coins earned. I just finished a 7 hour test with CCMiner mining TZC and confirmed the hashrate and shares submitted are lower than Hsrminer. The miner reports about 100-200 kh/s less than hsrminer per card on the miner itself and that's the result I was seeing in shares submitted and hashrate on the pool itself. I was skeptical, but after this test I can't really dispute the reported rates. I will say my hashrate with one card is higher than when I have a bunch of them running. I have this same problem with all miners though.. |
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lol, virtually memory is most definitely a very big factor. Mining rigs usually have 4-8gb of ram and if you have even 1 or 2 cards with low virtual memory you will most definitely get crashes and errors. I run 8 1080ti's, I need 88gb of virtual memory minimum. My system hasn't crashed in weeks and my oc settings are 90%tdp, +100 +600 (some cores run +150 on my hybrids). No crashes.
Go to system, advanced settings (on left side) then advanced tab, then set it there.. Or just google changing virtual memory to get a more thorough guide.
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For you people that keep crashing, lower your overclock settings, HSRMiner is not as stable as CCMiner when it comes to overclocking so lower it. The cuda errors are overclock errors. Also, make sure you have AT LEAST the same amount of virtual memory set up as you have memory on the card.. 5 1080ti cards = 11*5 = 55gb of virtual memory minimum. You shouldn't need to set it to restart every hour, this is stable IF you don't push the limits.
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I was having the same problems with the 1080ti, I was getting 1850kh/s with one card but after some time it would drop down to 1550 and stay there. Sometimes it was a few hours and then drop and sometimes it was longer. It was suggested to me that my video card driver was crashing in the background and although it wasn't crashing the system, the overclock software was not able to reconnect to the card and so the card was running at base stats and not being overclocked even though the software showed it as overclocked.
I was running at maximum overclock and although it was stable with CCminer, it was not stable with HSRminer. I've resolved this issue by lowering the overclock just a bit to the point where the drops no longer occurred. I've also vastly increased the virtual memory and now I no longer have this drop in hashrate. I do not mess with -i or -c and so I can't confirm if any of that works, I can only tell you I was seeing the drops daily, and now I do not.
You can check your windows logs to see if the drivers are crashing, I've never checked the logs because once I made the changes it stopped happening. Hope this helps you guys..
May I ask what your cc/cm/tdp is for ccminer? Trying to find some good oc settings for 1080ti I don't use CCMiner, but when I did I was able to do tdp 90% core +150 mem +650 with no problems in stability.. For HSRMiner I have had to lower that to 90 tdp +150core +625mem. Note that my evga cards are set to this, my Asus cards are not as they are not stable with the higher core clock so I'm at +100core +600mem on those. Also note HSRMiner is less stable at higher clocks than CCMiner, HSRMiner crashes more frequently if my OC settings are higher. Also note I have not confirmed that the hashrates HSRMiner are showing match what the pool says yet.. I've been in the middle of expanding so I couldn't confirm. I will confirm by this weekend, I find it very shady that Palgin drops a miner with a dev fee and disappears with no commentary so I'm very skeptical that the results are real. We've also never heard a single word from the supposed co author, Alex. |
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I was having the same problems with the 1080ti, I was getting 1850kh/s with one card but after some time it would drop down to 1550 and stay there. Sometimes it was a few hours and then drop and sometimes it was longer. It was suggested to me that my video card driver was crashing in the background and although it wasn't crashing the system, the overclock software was not able to reconnect to the card and so the card was running at base stats and not being overclocked even though the software showed it as overclocked.
I was running at maximum overclock and although it was stable with CCminer, it was not stable with HSRminer. I've resolved this issue by lowering the overclock just a bit to the point where the drops no longer occurred. I've also vastly increased the virtual memory and now I no longer have this drop in hashrate. I do not mess with -i or -c and so I can't confirm if any of that works, I can only tell you I was seeing the drops daily, and now I do not.
You can check your windows logs to see if the drivers are crashing, I've never checked the logs because once I made the changes it stopped happening. Hope this helps you guys..
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Okay so what I've found with this miner, is that it's only worth while if you're using 1080's or higher. The issue I've found is that hashrates deteriorate significantly as time goes on. I go from 6300kh/s, 8hours later, sitting at around 5800kh/s.
I don't think the 1080's are excluded from this issue.. My 1080 ti sits around 1850kh/s at 215watts normally, but at any time it can drop to 1550 and jump up to 240watts and sit there, requiring a reboot to snap it out of that funk. My 1070ti on the other hand sits at 1440kh/s and doesn't have this dropped rate issue, so I dunno what's going on there. Hasn't been a dev response to any of the feedback in days. Check your windows log, i'm pretty sure you will find a nvidia driver error. When this occurs, afterburner cannot contact the graphic cards and the card reset to default settings. You can also check with running all the time hc64. If when the hashrate drop occurs, hc64 cannot monitor your graphic cards it means that it's just a driver error. Thanks Melpheos, I will try to look at that, that does make sense. Now I just need to figure out how to check the windows log.. Not sure what HC64 is either.. Ya.. I'm nub  |
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Okay so what I've found with this miner, is that it's only worth while if you're using 1080's or higher. The issue I've found is that hashrates deteriorate significantly as time goes on. I go from 6300kh/s, 8hours later, sitting at around 5800kh/s.
I don't think the 1080's are excluded from this issue.. My 1080 ti sits around 1850kh/s at 215watts normally, but at any time it can drop to 1550 and jump up to 240watts and sit there, requiring a reboot to snap it out of that funk. My 1070ti on the other hand sits at 1440kh/s and doesn't have this dropped rate issue, so I dunno what's going on there. Hasn't been a dev response to any of the feedback in days. |
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Now i mine SPARKS: http://bsod.pw/?address=GHsDJKpjAFqLZGdBXGioekTg27WRkUBo42Rigs: alarmod - 1 x Geforce 1060 - 897 kH in miner katana - 3 x Geforce 1070 and 1 x Geforce 1080 Ti - 5624 kH in miner neuro - 2 x Geforce 1080 Ti - 4018 kH in miner oldest - 1 x Geforce 1060 - 891 kH in miner server - 2 x Geforce 1060 - 1762 kH in miner Total in miners: 897 + 5624 + 4018 + 891 + 1762 = 13192 kH Start mine on this pool hour ago.. Again, you're only showing what the miner is telling you but how do you know those numbers are real? |
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You get more according to what's reported on the screen, but how do you know those numbers are real... Sorry Alarmod, but someone just saying they're real doesn't make it so, who has the proof? That's what I'm asking..
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Sorry, I didn't understand this, can you elaborate? |
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Has anyone tested the hash rate to see if they are real and not just fake exaggerated output? For a miner that has an issue with dropping to 0% gpu usage, it seems difficult to believe that it's getting a 10-20% gain over all other miners. I've tested the power usage compared to CCMiner and it seems the same, don't know how to test the hashrate to see if it's fake though. I guess the only way would be to run 2 same cards side by side using two different mining programs on the same coin/pool and see the results. Anyone give that a try?
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I have a problem where I'm getting 1830-1850 kh/s and then after some time the hashrate starts getting lower and lower and it sits at around 1550kh/s. Only one card, virtual memory is set pretty high and I've spoken to others who are witnessing this same strange occurrence. We're on hybrids, so the temps are pretty cool, around 55c, memory around 64c. If I reboot or restart hsrminer, it goes back to normal. What's the deal? I also notice the miner does not display the correct gpu temperature, it's off by a consistent 8c or so, I assume the power draw might not be accurate either.
Also, is the next patch going to clean up the information output? It seems very limited in information..
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