@dannac you already know that you're trolling otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.
By the way I and probably many others thought you might be a genuine case, but at the end you proved yourself to be 100% a sockpuppet and have gotten two stakes from makoto. You were also against providing an id and proof of address as outlined by samysamy.
Straight question: If I send YOU my (and for the other 3 too ) ID, photo, address, credit card or whatever you need, do we get our remaining Stakes ? Are you in charge for that ? I don't think so. Then who is in charge , aka MAKOTO, please just ask publicly here on THIS Forum that we have to send him our proofs of identity , and after that we will get our Stakes. If that happen, OF COURSE we can do it straight away, no problem.But tell me why should we post all our Identities on a FORUM where everyone is anonymous, just because YOU or someone else (that doesn't have right on that btw) is just asking for that? I'm angry, I'm not fool  Does it make sense to you ?? or still hard to understand ? @dannac! THIS IS VERY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND- YOU ARE SOCKPUPPET MASTER AND BY THE WAY-I COULD FIND AND GIVE YOU 20 ID WITH FOTO(THIS IS MY FRIENDS.) AND THIS IS MEANS THAT I CAN ASK FROM DEVS 20 ANOTHER STAKES? FUCK OFF dannac When I can see a Nem address containing confiscated sock puppets stakes holding 25% of all the XEM available, then I'm done. Cannot ask for anything more then that. Nothing else to add on. . Have a nice day too.  |
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2.3 Billion of XEM remaining into the Socks Stakes Account  !!?!!?!?!! And lucky that in reply to my first post regarding Sockpuppets when I mentioned "Nearly thousand Socks Cases unsolved" , I've been told that there were just FEW sock puppets unsolved .....  Sorry, i said the previous one was the last post, but this one was completely unexpected... |
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dannac one more offensive comment like that again and your future posts will be deleted.
criticism is fine, being offensive is not. your choice.
Was it offensive ?? Is it because of Little Man ?!?!  I thought he was offensive to me. I must be wrong than.... silly me  As long as nobody say anything about Sockpuppets, I won't have anything to post in here. As soon as someone will post any other falsity about sock puppets and all the process behind it, and you will see me again. Thanks |
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though. Awesome  yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM. Having NEM stake (as I do) doesn't mean that you have to convince everyone NEM is the elixir of the Crypto... But if you want me to do that: yeah people Buy XEM !!! XEM for everyone !!!!! We don't want Makoto going back and getting a real proper job again, like a looser !!! Don't wait, buy your XEM !!!! Please !!!! So, don't get informed, don't ask anything. Just buy XEM ! Trust the Devs. It's you that's not informed ya numpty......you don't know what you have......the loser in you will sell as soon as you see a rise in price......hope you do so that someone more deserving will get your XEM ya sockmaster ya.... I'm not selling them. I'm planning to give them away for free ( at least my portion of stake) So don't be worried. I know what I have. And it stinks. Let me rimind you with samysamy's quote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg11975529#msg11975529You logged in into the other accounts and pretended to be your two imaginary friends who got nada nothing etc etc well you know the rest  This is sooooo funny. Yeah Xem stinks terribly. I'd love to release you from them - Please forward them to my account. I will send you your quote into something the will stink more then NEM themselves.. And you will have to use your bloody greedy fingers and make them dirty to collect them, one by one. And you will certainly do it, because you are so greedy. and you don't have any idea of meaning of word like ethic, respect, honour.... The biggest part of my NEM will go to a Sockpuppet that didn't get his stake because of some wankers like you. Keep thinking for yourself. And shut that mouth Poor pointless self-right, Because even with your XEM, you are still a poor little Man. |
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My last comment on the sock puppet story:
BloodyRookie explained it already very good. There is no 100% fairness if you don't have 100% of the needed information. Thus, compromises had to be accepted. Everybody with an IQ above 60 will understand this.
I feel sorry for all the people who lost a stake because of a false-positive analysis result (wrongly classified as sock).
I also feel sorry for all stakeholders because of false-negative analysis results (wrongly NOT classified as socks), because this makes the NEM distribution a little bit poorer and therefore all stakeholders suffer from it.
Did those false-positive accounts had any chance to prove their identity or something?No, Unfortunately they didn't. Because NEM is not synonymous of Fairness. Otherwise, how could these NEM stakes go into the Head pockets if analysis was fair ? Whoever offered is availability to show any proof of identity didn't get reply from Patmast3r before, and Makoto after... Think about, how hard was try to spend just a bit more time to let people explain their reasons.... How often we use a shared internet connection (Office, Home..) that has been the most common reason why accounts have been flagged as socks puppets (same IP for different accounts) ? Try to ask Devs to tell you which Multisig Address holds all the Sockpuppets Stakes, and tell me if you will get answer from them.Read the previous 6-7 pages and you will better understand. There must be a reason why on SuperNET they have their own idea about NEM. And there you will find THE devs. Hope this helps you to don't believe in NEM. I cannot say more, otherwise I would be a Troll. Btw, How comes that nobody is interested about the concept expressed in red bolded above??!?!?! Rather then worry about our identity ? I can't believe nobody hasn't got even a doubt... |
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though. Awesome yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM. Having NEM stake (as I do) doesn't mean that you have to convince everyone NEM is the elixir of the Crypto... But if you want me to do that: yeah people Buy XEM !!! XEM for everyone !!!!! We don't want Makoto going back and getting a real proper job again, like a looser !!! Don't wait, buy your XEM !!!! Please !!!! So, don't get informed, don't ask anything. Just buy XEM ! Trust the Devs. It's you that's not informed ya numpty......you don't know what you have......the loser in you will sell as soon as you see a rise in price......hope you do so that someone more deserving will get your XEM ya sockmaster ya.... I'm not selling them. I'm planning to give them away for free ( at least my portion of stake) So don't be worried. I know what I have. And it stinks. |
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@dannac you already know that you're trolling otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.
By the way I and probably many others thought you might be a genuine case, but at the end you proved yourself to be 100% a sockpuppet and have gotten two stakes from makoto. You were also against providing an id and proof of address as outlined by samysamy.
Straight question: If I send YOU my (and for the other 3 too ) ID, photo, address, credit card or whatever you need, do we get our remaining Stakes ? Are you in charge for that ? I don't think so. Then who is in charge , aka MAKOTO, please just ask publicly here on THIS Forum that we have to send him our proofs of identity , and after that we will get our Stakes. If that happen, OF COURSE we can do it straight away, no problem.But tell me why should we post all our Identities on a FORUM where everyone is anonymous, just because YOU or someone else (that doesn't have right on that btw) is just asking for that? I'm angry, I'm not fool Does it make sense to you ?? or still hard to understand ? |
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though. Awesome yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM. Having NEM stake (as I do) doesn't mean that you have to convince everyone NEM is the elixir of the Crypto... But if you want me to do that: yeah people Buy XEM !!! XEM for everyone !!!!! We don't want Makoto going back and getting a real proper job again, like a looser !!! Don't wait, buy your XEM !!!! Please !!!! So, don't get informed, don't ask anything. Just buy XEM ! Trust the Devs. |
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? 1XEM = 10-100USD yeah..... And potentially the world could finish tomorrow. Same chance to get what you said. Aahahahahhahahahahah.... |
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My last comment on the sock puppet story:
BloodyRookie explained it already very good. There is no 100% fairness if you don't have 100% of the needed information. Thus, compromises had to be accepted. Everybody with an IQ above 60 will understand this.
I feel sorry for all the people who lost a stake because of a false-positive analysis result (wrongly classified as sock).
I also feel sorry for all stakeholders because of false-negative analysis results (wrongly NOT classified as socks), because this makes the NEM distribution a little bit poorer and therefore all stakeholders suffer from it.
Did those false-positive accounts had any chance to prove their identity or something?No, Unfortunately they didn't. Because NEM is not synonymous of Fairness. Otherwise, how could these NEM stakes go into the Head pockets if analysis was fair ? Whoever offered is availability to show any proof of identity didn't get reply from Patmast3r before, and Makoto after... Think about, how hard was try to spend just a bit more time to let people explain their reasons.... How often we use a shared internet connection (Office, Home..) that has been the most common reason why accounts have been flagged as socks puppets (same IP for different accounts) ? Try to ask Devs to tell you which Multisig Address holds all the Sockpuppets Stakes, and tell me if you will get answer from them.Read the previous 6-7 pages and you will better understand. There must be a reason why on SuperNET they have their own idea about NEM. And there you will find THE devs. Hope this helps you to don't believe in NEM. I cannot say more, otherwise I would be a Troll. |
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My unique concern is that, most probably, this shit will never worth millions. Most probably, it will never worth thousands. Some nuts maybe... I'm Out anyway. So, no Drama. |
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None of my business but those posts just proved to me that it is one and the same person. I dunno I might be wrong but they have indeed the same style of threats and similar grammatical error.
@Dannac can we see you and the other two come here online at the same time (showing green status in profile). You need to be using 3 computers though.
You might want to take a picture of your face holding your ID and your other housemates need to do the same + post proof of address (e.g. government letter with national insurance number).
You've been able to convince me to give up. I don't want to be a Troll. My purpose was just get what's belong to us. But I failed I believe. With you guys everyone fail. How did I convince you? You were the one suggesting to provide ID. By the way I thought two of your housemates received a stake already and now you're saying that none of you received a stake - two other accounts are posting saying that they didn't get anything + the last housemate is not interested anymore and is angry + you say that you didn't get anything either? HUH Conclusion: As 1 person you received 2 stakes in totalYeah, that's ok. You are probably right. You Won. We lost. Happy ? Thought was implicit since we've got only 50% of what we deserve... I always told that we received 2 stakes, when they should be 4. We didn't share the stakes between us yet. We are not gonna keep our NEM, they stink. Nobody is interested in them anymore. And I don't want to discuss that anymore. I've posted for 6-7 pages already. I've asked the others to don't reply anymore. It simply doesn't worth. This story will go into the book of NEM History. And on every Forum where I will find NEM mentioned. Makoto, this is for you: Thanks a lot. I know what you've done. I'm just waiting. It will come, no worries. |
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None of my business but those posts just proved to me that it is one and the same person. I dunno I might be wrong but they have indeed the same style of threats and similar grammatical error.
@Dannac can we see you and the other two come here online at the same time (showing green status in profile). You need to be using 3 computers though.
You might want to take a picture of your face holding your ID and your other housemates need to do the same + post proof of address (e.g. government letter with national insurance number).
Yeah, and maybe you can come to our place twice a week for a free lunch. And grab whatever you like in here and bring it at home for free. And maybe we can sleep together Is there something else that you want me to do ? Pick up you kids at school.. Tiding up you house... Just ask me  C'mon... I don't want to think you were serious for true. For any reason I don't want to do that. You've been able to convince me to give up. I don't want to be a Troll. My purpose was just get what's belong to us. But I failed I believe. With you guys everyone fail. |
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Well, to be honest, I think one of them is still online... At least that's what I can see looking @ the thread now. Don't know if you can see it. But I don't really care, frankly speaking... Because I don't think that could prove anything... C'mon, is not hard to turn on 3 computers and ask them to login at the same time.. I'M telling this.. keep it in mind And anyway, I think I have enough. I think I'm wasting my time with you guys. I'll think about it, if what I'm doing really worth the effort. Economically speaking, really it DOESN'T !!!!! EDIT: 3 OF US ONLINE AT THE SAME TIME. happy now ?? |
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Mate, now I'm pretty sure some of the 'usuals' will come saying: "you clearly sound the same person !!!!No doubt " It's just a matter of time... FYI, the last member is not interested anymore, just said she (yes.. she) doesn't want to post for any reason. It's just useless. She's probably right. Oh, she's pretty angry better for all you guys not dealing with her |
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I don't think they'll get their stakes. I just said that I agree that stuff didn't go as it should have. It's not up to me to give out any stakes.
I do want to point out that there is a good reason why this stuff suffered - Makoto was absurdly busy with important stuff (VC funding didn't come out of the blue). I understand the anger but I don't blame makoto for prioritzing.
I just wanted to state my opinion. I can't help so I'll shut up now.
Nobody will get anymore stakes. Distribution is over. It is time to move on to the next step. If this is the attitude, then don't complain of you thread gets dirtier every day more. Can you also tell us which multisig address holding all the Socks Stakes confiscated ? Jut to have a look what's going on.. Not because we don't trust yous... @dannac, why aren't the other three people complaining? do you still share a house and PC? get them off couch and posting too, so we can see there are really four of you, not just one One just posted right 3 messages before yours .. ahahahah... I can see you are reading posts very careful.. ok, I can see it now, I'll read it and see if it sounds like you. yes, when someone hijacks a thread like you have I skim. I think you're entitled to do it, and if all four of you post and it's clear there are different 'voices' you might have a chance to sway opinion Thanks for at least putting in account that i could be right I appreciate it very much I still have to convince the other 2 to post here... not sure how easy it will be honestly.. |
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I don't think they'll get their stakes. I just said that I agree that stuff didn't go as it should have. It's not up to me to give out any stakes.
I do want to point out that there is a good reason why this stuff suffered - Makoto was absurdly busy with important stuff (VC funding didn't come out of the blue). I understand the anger but I don't blame makoto for prioritzing.
I just wanted to state my opinion. I can't help so I'll shut up now.
Nobody will get anymore stakes. Distribution is over. It is time to move on to the next step. If this is the attitude, then don't complain of you thread gets dirtier every day more. Can you also tell us which multisig address holding all the Socks Stakes confiscated ? Jut to have a look what's going on.. Not because we don't trust yous... @dannac, why aren't the other three people complaining? do you still share a house and PC? get them off couch and posting too, so we can see there are really four of you, not just one One just posted right 3 messages before yours .. ahahahah... I can see you are reading posts very careful.. |
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OK,
you can ignore us.
But what about the newbie, that need information regarding NEM ??
They will read our posts.
Btw,Patmas3r, you are just letting me down. I thought you were a different person, when I was talking with you regarding Sockpuppets redemption, few months ago. Now, simply, you are washing your hands.
I don't understand what happened honestly.
WHY YOU DON'T EXPLAIN TO US WHAT HAPPENED? SINCE, FROM BEING THE PERSON TO BE CONTACTED FOR SOCKPUPPETS COMPLAINS (JUST FEW WEEKS AGO) NOW, YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN ANYTHING ANYMORE... WHY ? WHO KICKED YOU OUT ?
WHAT HAPPENED ? IS IT BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WANTED 100% CONTROL OF SOCKS STAKES ?
would be great if you could explain that.
Okay, I'll answer this one. Noone kicked me out. I said i don't want to be involved in that way anymore. So since launch I'm a normal supporter. I don't know more than anyone else and I don't have access to anything anymore that is not public. That's also why I can't help you. I tried to help by explaining some things an expressing my sympathies but I see that I've done more harm than good...not unsusual for me. I appreciate your ability to reply, without being nasty Thanks for clarification. |
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I don't think they'll get their stakes. I just said that I agree that stuff didn't go as it should have. It's not up to me to give out any stakes.
I do want to point out that there is a good reason why this stuff suffered - Makoto was absurdly busy with important stuff (VC funding didn't come out of the blue). I understand the anger but I don't blame makoto for prioritzing.
I just wanted to state my opinion. I can't help so I'll shut up now.
Nobody will get anymore stakes. Distribution is over. It is time to move on to the next step. If this is the attitude, then don't complain of you thread gets dirtier every day more. Can you also tell us which multisig address holding all the Socks Stakes confiscated ? Jut to have a look what's going on.. Not because we don't trust yous... |
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