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201  Economy / Economics / Re: $175 billion just printed and the Bitcoin price goes down! on: November 24, 2019, 05:06:55 PM
at first I even thought prices would go up directly when usdt was printed at the past from bitfinex ; but now i am sure that effect appear after some weeks at latest or little of months ; if everyone dump his bitcoin the prices will have some obstacle . but i think prices can stable in the future and rise constanly
It is normal of digital currencies to face fluctuations and this is what they are famous for. Bitcoin is the most volatile crypto coin that gets affected by every big movement but this does not imply that the coin is losing its value. The halving is not very far from us and we can expect more decrease in values before it. But thins will change drastically afterwards. Bitcoin is going to skyrocket in 2020.
202  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin goes down, no new rich people anymore on: November 24, 2019, 04:54:17 PM
Bitcoin's price is still low that it has difficulties to increased it's value and reach it's price to 20k USD again, but it doesn't mean that bitcoin is not profitable anymore that it can't make new bitcoin user to get rich. It only just takes a long time for a new bitcoin user to earn good income from their investment, all they need is patience to wait for bitcoin's price to increased for them not to have any regrets from buying bitcoin.
Although bitcoin difficult reached above $20k I think many rich people never can't be stop because get profit on cryptocurrency not only from bitcoin but also come from altcoin investing, altcoin can increase higher price more than bitcoin with lower salary we can raise about 100% profit by investing on altcoin, for bitcoin you have much salary before investing with bitcoin assets.
rich people will not created from bitcoin price only. In cryptocurrency market we see many ways to earn profits , for example if we have skill in mining and analizing coins we could start build our own rig. It also will give us huge earning. Another way , we could trading altcoin . there are more than 3000 altcoin in market , and if we could pick best of them i am sure we will earn much profits.
But if we look at the millionaires of this industry, they are bitcoin holders. Only bitcoin has given us young rich guys. Most of them simply achieved their present status by investing in bitcoin when the prices were low. There was a time when bitcoin was available for almost ten dollars. Earlier birds were luckiest ones. Coming towards altcoins, only few can return profits and that too not as big as of bitcoin.
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bank of Crypto? on: November 23, 2019, 03:21:10 PM
If you aren't storing your crypto on a hardware wallet I think Coinbase and ecxx are the safest options. Coinbase is insured and ecxx has never been hacked, is regulated in Singapore, and uses ledger vault.
So far I have never used Coinbase and ecxx to store my crypto assets, so if Coinbase and ecxx are really safe and highly recommended, it is very necessary to try, and I will also use them.
Coinbase is at first position now but this keeps on changing. However, the exchange has remain among the top for years and is one of the oldest. It has some good features and for a new comer, this is the right place to start playing with crypto currencies. The fee is also a low one. Apart from that, it gives good options when it comes to making payments.  You can use bank transfer, bank wire, credit and debit cards.
204  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Long term prediction. on: November 23, 2019, 03:07:16 PM
Good one mate. But the drop happened fast. We will see if your $6,800 support can hold until January. I am also thinking about worst scenario at $5,000-$6,000. I've seen more predictions lately here that expected this correction before the price moves again upwards. At least this chart supported my prediction to start accumulating again first quarter next year. Although I would still be happy to be proven wrong, that bitcoin all of a sudden shoots up before end of this year.  
When we do talk about technicals then we might able to reach those levels but to come to think that this might be already the bottom for this year.

We cant conclude yet if we go down further specially now about the news on binance denial which would somewhat cut-off the fud.Price is almost heading go back to 6k+ level
but who knows if recovery would start  now.

Further dumps can happen along the way specially we are already approaching the next halving.
Having the event of halving in mind, it would be better to buy more bitcoins and instead of feeling bad about the decreasing value, investors should feel blessed as they are getting the opportunity to make invest in coins when a pump is confirmed. Dips have their own purpose to serve. Without it, no one can buy coins by small amounts. All changes are important in crypto currencies world for gaining most benefit.
205  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Trading competition good way to earn money? on: November 23, 2019, 02:38:35 PM
hello crypto heroes.

As we all know now these days so many trading competitions arranged by exchanges,
i just wondering is this a way of earning?

i personally think that this technique is used by exchanges to make volume of particular coin or token, I'm not sure if there are other purposes for arrangement trading competitions.

Please Note: it's not our agenda what is purpose for these trading competitions.


The agenda is how it's possible to earn some money through trading competitions and what are risks?

Please share your thoughts and Your experience below,

i believe it will be very helpful for newbies, and also for those are not familiar with.

Why I'm asking here?
The Reason is: BTT is world's biggest Crypto Related Form so why not to discuss every single thing about crypto,


I will be very thankful to all of you guys if you also share your tips and tricks.  Grin







Not always, trading competition is another way to test your skill in limit time. Best way is keep trying with calculation. Trading is not for profit but to grow up your fund, method always change and never forget about stop loss and take profit point. But if you already success with competition I think you should try again.

I think it's different thing because trading skills is not for competition and trading skill is not able to compete because each trader has different way to trade, some traders are doing a long term trade like 6 month before they sell their trade but if the trading competition have the time limit, thosenkind of traders are not able to compete even they have really good skills of trades
Competitions are always held among the people of different skill set. No two person in the world are born with same skills. We all perform at different rhythms. In my opinion, such competitions will help participants to learn from other and grow their knowledge. It is actually very thrilling and beneficial. Long term traders will compete there type and short term or day traders will play against their kind.
206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Gathering Ideas for New Site on: November 23, 2019, 02:20:25 PM
Hi all. I am thinking of creating a new site for everyone to play. Therefore, I am hoping to gather your opinions about what games and/or features you would like to see. It could be another dice/casino game but with different features, or a brand new idea that is interesting to be implemented. More importantly, it is entertaining for everyone in the Bitcoin community to enjoy.

I have created a Google survey form. It takes less than a minute to fill out. You can also optionally fill in your email address if you are interested in receiving updates about the progress of the site:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdiGPmaiPWH5H7Jwr0l_RmB4wgpLDULnXRz9n2Im03UHYeXsA/viewform?usp=sf_link

Please share if you think of anyone interested in playing. Thanks for your attention!  Cheesy

If you wanted to be different then make a game that can be so interesting. Dice and some casino games are common but it is okay as long as you have a good offer to give or make a new game base on skills. Skilled game is good and entertaining to those who will gonna play it just like some other online games nowadays you can get some ideas on the current online games right now.
The idea is amazing but coming up with ones own game is not an easy task. If ever, he pulls this and the game turns out to be a good one too, nothing can stop him from becoming rich. Talking on the reality basis, he can make a gambling site with a lavish user interface and offer all games. He must conduct tournaments to just add a bit of spice and lotteries too. He should allow users to play with crypto currencies too.
207  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto is changing the personal asset management market on: November 23, 2019, 01:59:06 PM
It's a good start. The ease of getting into it meant that even the unbanked in developing countries can start saving up. People who can't afford to buy gold or don't have enough money for stocks can just buy crypto, etc.
It is a good start indeed but would it be another risk to take by individuals? We used institutional asset management because they were the ones who specializes on keeping our assets safe and secured, turning it to personal management could led into something we do not want. Cryptocurrency becomes an speculative and digital investment accessible almost for everyone but don't set aside the gold which can be use to unit an account for value storing also, tangible and less volatile. This is why government and banks are still on process handling this thing as the number of crypto users are growing.

It's also easier to manage your money. The only time I use banks in relation to crypto is when cashing out and it need not necessarily be done with just banks.
Personally I would totally love it if I were able to manage it but have you ever think of your safety while having those assets? you could be in danger situation and so this is why we have banks to store.
 I do use banks for cashing in and out. Also I use banks for savings with interest rate, it is good and passive.

Do not make banks the safest place on Earth for our assets because its not. Banks do get robbed by criminals and let us just not forget about they cyber ones too. Hackers hacked banks and got huge amounts many a times in the past. Future wont be any different. if we invest in bitcoin, then not only we will save our asset from all kind of robbers but also do beneficial investment simultaneously.
208  Economy / Economics / Re: stupidity is so close to poverty on: November 22, 2019, 05:03:09 PM
I don't think like you, not everyone who is rich is smart or who is poor is also a fool, although in today's society everyone wants to get rich and financial freedom but besides that there are still groups of people in society who choose to be materially poor because they simply want a peaceful life, they don't love material things or money, it's more important for them to be happy or have a happy family , there are still stupid rich people because they are the ones who inherit wealth from others, they are descendants of the rich or they may be lucky with winning lottery tickets or gambling .... I think the reason you're always poor even though you don't want it to happen because you're too lazy, lack of self-discipline and often blame everything.
Everyone who became rich was smart. Being born in a rich family will obviously make you rich. But if we look at the story of Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Mark or Eric, it won't be wrong to say that they were smart people with perseverance. Similarly, Those who are investing in Bitcoin at present are obviously more intelligent than the ignorant. These will become rich in the future and others wont share their destiny.
209  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin goes down, no new rich people anymore on: November 22, 2019, 04:41:55 PM
a lot of business can be done so that you can become rich, if you look around you whether new rich people get wealth through crypto? of course not, someone's wealth gained from different paths depends on how his efforts and intentions, although not denied in crypto you can also become a new rich person.
Not only with bitcoin investment can stop for new rich person, but also real investing become bad terrible when lower interested from costumer and make investor have lost and become cheap, but they have anticipation by looking other chance to get profit when bitcoin and altcoin price down, always have opportunity how to get profit with bitcoin and looking ICO or IEO become best way to get profit.
we should not focus on cryptocurrency market only, there are many Investment that have better potency and smaller risk than crypto market. Real business or finance market depend on ourself when we run it. If we smart and have capability to make our business growth , we could be rich man from this. But if we have no this , even in best Investment place , our carreer will stuck and could not earn much money that will make us rich.

Exactly, we should maximize our fund not only in cryptocurrency, although we know that it is getting stable and this is the future digital currency still not a good sign that we should focus on it only, we should also invest in some other ways especially if we do have the fund, because we know the risk involve in crypto and it is too risky to risk all our money and invest only here.
Nothing can be more beneficial than investing in Bitcoin or any potential altcoin. Cryptocurrencies will become stable some day in the future but that is not very near. The market will remain volatile for few coming years. If a person is holding Bitcoin, he really does not need to go for other options. he can become a millionaire with this currency easily. Just look at the value it has gain since its birth.
210  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WHAT DOES A TRADER NEED? on: November 22, 2019, 03:51:22 PM
Broad topic Cheesy
Trader needs patience and knowledge about cryptocurrencies, that's the most important.
Another thing is to have right exchange, safety first. I can recommend Kraken or CoinDeal.
Trader need to remember not to invest more than he can afford to lose!
In my opinion, most important skill of trader which will actually help him in becoming successful far earlier than his fellow, is knowledge. If he understand his asset, digital market and this profession very well, nothing can stop him from becoming rich. After acquiring this weapon, he won't have to work on his patience and tolerance. They will develop naturally in him. he should never ever give up. In exchanges, Binance is also a good option.
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Easiest Way to Make Money with Crypto? on: November 22, 2019, 03:29:31 PM
As of now, there are various cryptocurrencies with unique features that enables people to earn some money along the way. Most cryptocurrencies are PoS-based which allows anyone to earn money depending on the number of coins held on the wallet. I've toppled across several PoS coins that are highly rewarding, yet extremely risky because of the constant flux of prices within the crypto market.

On the other hand, mineable coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum are also highly rewarding, but somewhat complicated to get ahold of if you're not accustomed with setting up miners on your own. The cloud mining approach seems to be much easier than mining at home, but most of the services available today are complete scams. Signature campaigns are a great way to make some money with crypto, but are not easy as they sound (since you're required to make quality posts over time).

Which is why, I want to know what's the easiest way to make money with crypto today? Any recommendations or suggestions will be highly appreciated. Smiley
If we don't give up or take risk, we won't be rich. In order to make a lot of money in the crypto market, we need to take risks and speculate correctly. such as investing in potential but underestimated alts such as RET, bitcoin2, Energi, Egretia. I think now is a trend to invest in such alts and hold in the long term to get a result of 1000% or more.
It won't be wrong to say that risk was involved in the beginning days of cryptocurrencies, When the concept was very new and people were not willing to take that chance. But now if anyone invests in Bitcoin or ethereum, he should not even think about risk. These cryptocurrencies can be trusted blindly. With the new projects, things are a bit different. Mostly they are scams and that is the reason, it is best to stay with old projects.
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty hunters do not need to wait for altcoin season on: November 21, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Because we all still believe that altcoin season would seriously help to improve the prices of altcoins that we promoted, because nowadays all altcoins that have a bounty programme are losing massively after the first exchange listing.
but you can't fully wait and hope for the altcoin season. it is better to do other things to add experience and knowledge while waiting for the altcoin season to return, and the altcoin season might be able to help the price movements of several altcoins
As long as bitcoin does not make any progress, it is stupidity to expect altcoins growing up. If altcoin holders are looking for that time when finally their holding will bloom, they should learn bitcoin movements first. That way, it will become easy to predict upcoming seasons. The halving is about to happen. Bitcoin will definitely gain huge value. Altcoins wont do anything different. So now is the time to increase assets.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: waiting for altcoin season might take time on: November 21, 2019, 12:35:55 PM
I have been hodling my altcoins since the previous bullrun and it was hard to be patient when the price is way below than expected. Hopefully the next bullrun would come sooner so I could be rewarded for hodling.
You are cool, can be patient in quite a long time, how many years has it been? if calculated per year 2017 to 2019, you have been holding it for 2 years huh? if it were me, I'd give up and sell it all (cutloss).

altcoin season is clearly still going to be long if we look at the current conditions that are difficult to predict and it seems that even next year I myself am still in doubt about the rise in bitcoin (halving) and altcoin season. slowly I began to be pessimistic.

if you really do hold it should not stop to do it, if you do a cut loss then the elapsed time is in vain. just hope for the price next year will be profitable so that the investment he did was successful
Holding is the only way to earn profits from digital currencies. If we look at the example of Erik and similar personalities, holding made them millionaire. The credit also goes to their choice. No doubt, bitcoin is the best of the best. If he is that good at holding, he should hold bitcoin too. Actually, a large portion of his assets should consist of bitcoin and bitcoin only. We all know, bitcoin will be rising up so altcoins hold the same future.
214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social experiments in the world of gambling on: November 21, 2019, 11:27:09 AM
If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

I wouldn't give/lend money to such person, because it would only make things worse for him/her, but I would be more than happy to help with an advice on how to deal with loss, and on how to avoid such situations in the future.

I know, people pay big money for counselling, but the thing is that shrinks are no gamblers themselves, and thus they can hardly say anything constructive on the matter.

I would suggest to such a person to come here, on this forum, to spell out their problem with as many details as possible, and to get free counselling. Maybe it would be helpful.
If he promises to never ever gamble again then there is no harm in lending money to a gambler who has decided to give up on this game. If he is asking for financial help in order to fulfill needs of his family or something like that with the intention to return the borrowed amount back, the guy deserves help. We should never ever disappoint someone who has High Hopes from us. Saving one life is equal to saving all humanity. If this is not possible then he must be encouraged for good times at least. Mostly gamblers become depressed which is the biggest problem.
215  Economy / Economics / Re: Who is the richest person? on: November 21, 2019, 10:58:18 AM
I think this is a pretty good problem, it's easy when you ask who is the richest, there's a lot of information on the internet with a google ranking, or a Forbes ranking, but those are the coins. clean money, blackmoney is still very much around the globe, some personal reasons they do not like to appear in public is also an example, in my opinion, money is never enough, the richest people have many health, time and having a happy family, always happy with life, living with your passion and interests, because money is only a tool only, if you have a lot of money and alone in life ... what is a lot of money for?
The richest people of the world are basically owners of big technology companies like Microsoft Amazon or Apple. Then there comes underworld. There are criminals who cannot be listed among the richest but I believe they hold huge amounts too. Rothschild is also a rich family by owning gold of this world. Let's just focus on the future rich guys because that is more important. They will be the Bitcoin holders of present.
216  Economy / Economics / Re: Asset backed cryptocoins? on: November 21, 2019, 10:31:52 AM
I dont know if it will be going to be a nation assets like gold ang charcoal here in crypto industry because all of the country has the capability to own it and be one of the whales who will control the market in the future.

Crypto is also a good source of backed-up assets as long as you can hold it and had a patience on this kind of market situation, hopefully there were still lots of chance to make a good comeback soon in terms of uses.
It is not like that all the countries or any government can actually invest in decentralized coins. The investment in digital currencies has to be done by an individual. Even after that no one can claim to own the cryptocurrency. If you are holding just few coins, this does not makes you the authority of that coin. Moreover, if a person invests in Bitcoin then he can on make huge profits with time. Not all coins can do that and Main streaming is just a matter of time.
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Useless altcoins must remove from the whole crypto market on: November 20, 2019, 04:28:48 PM
I don't think there is a way that we can use to remove them from market. They will only be there just that their trading will continue to reduce. Don't forget that some invested in these shit coins and they also have the right to have them in the market even if they are worthless.
You are right. We cannot wipe out failures or scams from the market. Everyone has the right to come up with a project and launch it in digital coin market. The only way to demotivate useless stuff is by not getting involved into them. Once investors will stop paying attention to them, a decrease can be seen certainly. In my opinion, old coins should be top priority of every investor.
You have a point, we cannot fully exterminate the existence of shitcoins. Almost of coin in the market are shitcoin and exchanges cannot remove this coins because some of them are paid enough to be listed. The only way I can think of is that we should not support or discourage the use of this coins so that the volume could drop to 0 and totally get remove out from exchanges. Creation of shitcoins is inevitable due to the fact that there some projects failed to meet their goal.
If you ask me, we do not need to. All we are supposed to do is invest in the right coins and make money. It is not a very difficult task, actually a way to simple and easy plan to follow. Just invest in bitcoin and hold. What part of it is hard to get? Everything in this world exists in balance. Where there is light, there is darkness too. We cant get rid of criminals entirely. But we have ways to ensure our safety and success.
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about PAYA coin? on: November 20, 2019, 04:09:43 PM
I don't fall this one, it is just another shitcoin to me that to be like bitcoin. We all know many shitcoins can't survive for long and I think that is there strategy to gather newbie investors to invest their paya coin.

I also don't like coins/tokens that are trying to compete with Bitcoin but nothing to be proud of yet, where in they haven't even launching yet but they are spreading in the community that they will be the next big thing, that they will surpass Bitcoin, so for me they are just like another ponzi scam that trying to manipulate the mind of people.
Every coin has the right to compete bitcoin. If they wont compete the best of the best, they will never improve themselves. Having strong opponents pushes you to become strong too. For instance, if I want to compete google, only then I will give my best. However, it does not mean an effort of few years will allow me to make a company better than Google, as it will also improve during those years.
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Simple idea on: November 20, 2019, 03:41:20 PM
Hi fellas, i want to drop this info mainly for newbies on this forum that just start getting familiar with crypto wallets, i was waiting for some tokens to get delivered into my coinomi wallet since a month ago but they never appeared but the projects teams claim its been sent but guess what? i decided to track my address last night using Etherscan and i saw all the tokens there, sometimes your tokens might have arrived in your wallet but you won't know until you track your wallet address or you manually add token contract address, thank you.
I still don't understand that incident? what affects so that the token is not visible, so you use etherscan to verify it. That way does have a significant risk. Please enlighten me, thank you
He has just shared ways to confirm arrival of tokens in wallets. So that if anyone else faces such situations, he will first confirm the presence of coins on his own by using etherscan. Basically, at times, the coins send by the team of a project may fail to appear in your wallet regardless of all the information provided correctly to them and coins delivered already by them. Coins do get into our wallet but just don't appear. So this way, you can see the coins.
220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are your criteria to go back/sticking with one particular gambling house on: November 20, 2019, 03:18:31 PM
4. I am finding myself profitable only there/my strategy works only there.
5. Their reputation/customer support /instant withdraw/easy KYC etc.
6. Providing faucets/freebies.

8. Contests/races.

I'll pick these four over the other,  reputation is very important it ranks very high among what gamblers are looking for a gambling site, people will not play on gambling with a site with bad reputation however good is the gambling site is.

Contest and races is another one, it's a big attraction and make the gamblers to come back more, faucets and freebies to test their games and features
All of them matters when picking up a gambling site, I guess. Nobody wants to become part of a house that has bad reputation. Obviously, it would have low quality services or may be involved in some fraudulent activities too. Moreover, it is also true that at times our strategy works out at one place but fails at others. Nothing is actually better than contests. They give the most thrill and excitement.
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