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That Titan that was supposed to be used for the PSP could be used to mine coins like Crave, Cybercoin and 8bit?
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What algo was this coin in the POW stage?
Scrypt. Thank you! |
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What algo was this coin in the POW stage?
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Around 5 million could be ok. let's give a chance to more ppl.
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So strange this is not on a big exchange yet.  |
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My cost-average went up
I'm not engaged in Craigscoin, just mildly interested in its progress The only progress here is dev popping in once in a month and deleting unwanted posts.... which is funny for a coin that promotes uncensored advertising LOL I think a few of us would like a take over and contribute to a bounty for new developers, if it helps this project... I also would like to.... but when I think Pavel has (or should have) those craigs he bought during the "buy back" period.... well, it bothers me thinking I could help him earning (more) money for doing nothing. |
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it's also unbelivable that someone got around 250k craigs at 80/90 the last few days.
or maybe it was just some fake volume....
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Get stacking and staking your CAIx. I'll be back in 3 weeks. Then I'll see what we can do.
We can do nothing but dump the coin to ground. There won't be anybody willing to pump it anymore. Dev doesn't give a sh... anymore. I believe Stuhlman appeared after long time just to trigger some little pump and unload his bags. So it seems it's over again. I bought for 100K SAT and now I can dump it with over 1000% loss well, in crypto anything is possible, but volume since Stuhlmn post hs been very low, not enough to unload a reasonable amount of coins. as i said, in crypto expect the oddest to happen, but i think something is cooking beneath caix ashes. dev, isn't it about time to let us know? |
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So Stuhlman are you done or what?
he came back to show off his ASCII art on twitter, isn't it enough guys? Stuhl, don't get upset, I'm just having some fun waiting for you tocome back:-) whatever you're up to, i'm sure it will be terrific. maybe you mind sharing some infos? |
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ill through in half a million Craigs for a dev Bounty if done right
half a million is quote a few! i can afford to put 50.000, maybe if there are a few of us willing to donate, we fan reach 1 million. anyone else will join? by the way, is Pavel holding any kind ofcode he must release for developement to start again? |
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is there a way to take after this project and someone able to do it?
maybe instead of crushing it to 1sat we can setup a bounty for further developement?
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I think that only one day for the swap is not a good idea.
I know this has been talked for long but there are people who don't check the forum often, and others ready to FUD Dope for the swap.
It happened to every coin that swapped, even with longer swap time.
Would it be possible to make it 7 or 10 days, and then chick in the backup plan?
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TX FEE
An exchange could remove Craig for any reasons, it doesn't matter what the reason is.
As we rely on it's value to (dynamically?) set the tx fee for ads, it would be a good idea to have some sort of decentralized excg as a first thing.
So if Craig doesn't depend on anything that is centralized for this, we are ok.
IMHO I think that the future digital auction house will become more than just a typical centralized or decentralized coin exchange. The auction house will allow people to auction off anything from other crypto coins, to merchandise, to loans, to God knows what ever you want to buy and sell - as long as it's legal (we don't want to become Silk Road 3.0). Albeit, I don't see why Bittrex or Cryptsy would want to drop the coin for any reason in the sense that as long as they are still making enough trade fees on Craigscoin, why care if it's competing. Some people might refuse to want to use the auction house, and simply trade CraigsCoin off future TA speculations on standard exchanges. So the idea that exchanges will drop the coin due to competition doesn't seem logical to me. I'm more concerned about people trying to sell illegal stuff, and exchanges forced to drop Craig because of that. SPAM.
You're right, confirming posts is not feasible but still, a form of decentralized and wide "control" over posts should be done, even if they last a week or a day.
I know we're trying to build this system to be as free as possible but who would like to keep (even for a short time) something about pedophilia or other weird things? I hope none.
Someone on a previous post suggested something like a "report as inappropriate" feature to be implemented.
If a post gets a number of negative feedback, it gets removed. I'm not sure if it can be removed from the blockchain, probabily not, maybe it can be sent to some sort of "burning" address?
I know, if a group of people want to sabotage a post they can massively give it a bad feedback, but some form of auto-regulation should be thought.
As we do in "real" life.
This is definitely a hard issue to tackle without creating centralization. Pavel created the tag and filter system to help us out, maybe the search engine could do some sort of immediate auto check on the new posts, scanning for words that are considered red flags and appropriate how and where that post gets adjusted to the tag and filter system? If some one says ASS 50 times in a row the search engine automatically sends it to the spam tag filter folder of the website? People could even vote on the website forum what words should be filtered accordingly. The next issue on the matter is what if a poster inserts a link to a virus or trojan horse. There needs to be some sort of virus scan on the website that automatically filters out this stuff and sends it to a spam tag filter folder. Fair. But filters can't tell if an ad is about drug or arms of pedoporn smuggling. DECENTRALIZED DEVELOPMENT I think Pavel is up for the task of developing Craig, even if it's doing it slowly. He can lay down the fundamentals of the coin and get it to work smoothly now, but in the future a huge thing like this cannot rely on a single (centralized!!!) developer for many reasons. It could be a good thing if, as new ideas need to get implemented into Craig, more than one Dev could workon it. Maybe in turn. I think it's fair if they could be paid for what they do, but how? Maybe a special fund made from staking could be used for this purpose. Once a Dev has finished his job and peers voluntarily review what has been done, he/she gets paid. Let's put all our ideas on the table and have a discussion!  Wow, give the man some respect, lol  He's stated before that once this goes viral, he will quit his job and focus all his attention on this coin's development. Once the ad tx fees and website ad banner fees kick into viral action, the last of our worries will be that the dev needs to eat too! It will be more like, "why can't we get more dividend?"  - all the while Pavel's shouting out orders to 50 employees in his new 15,000 square foot office. I respect him don't worry! I don't want the weight of this huge thing to be on his shoulders alone. And it's also good to keep the development spread over more subjects to preserve it from collapsing when that single Dev can't keep it up. See you in a day or two. mass |
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Maybe we need a decentralized exchange first, in case Craig is banned from exchanges as Pavel pointed out.
Then we can have a dynamic fee, but I don't think 0,3$ is too much, I was thinking much more, something like 1$.
Also I'm thinking if we can try to peg the value of a Craig to something... but I need to think about it some more.
This will not solve spam problems anyway, maybe it will help reduce it, but 1$ or 0.5$ won't stop people to post stupid things if they want to.
Here we need to evolve as a community and try to mature. Maybe we need to confirm every post, like we need confirmations for normal transactions.
Let's say before a post is passed into the blockchain it needs to have 75% (or 100% or 51% etc) positive valuation (and a minimum number of votes)
Tx adv fee will be used in part to keep development alive and in part to pay those who take part in the confirmation process.
It may become even a job for some people, and a real life application for a cryptocoin.
I'm throwing these ideas on the table for now.
P.S: forgive my English, I need to brush it up.
Why would it be banned from exchanges? -------- I would like community voting to approve posts, but that too is susceptible to fud or spam. At this point, 5 people downvoting every submission would mean nothing gets posted. -------- Your English is fine TX FEE An exchange could remove Craig for any reasons, it doesn't matter what the reason is. As we rely on it's value to (dynamically?) set the tx fee for ads, it would be a good idea to have some sort of decentralized excg as a first thing. So if Craig doesn't depend on anything that is centralized for this, we are ok. The problem I don't see anything that is not centralized for this matter. SPAM. You're right, confirming posts is not feasible but still, a form of decentralized and wide "control" over posts should be done, even if they last a week or a day. I know we're trying to build this system to be as free as possible but who would like to keep (even for a short time) something about pedophilia or other weird things? I hope none. Someone on a previous post suggested something like a "report as inappropriate" feature to be implemented. That will require constant moderation. Any 3d party site can do that, but there is no solution for blockchain i can see fitIf a post gets a number of negative feedback, it gets removed. I'm not sure if it can be removed from the blockchain, probabily not, maybe it can be sent to some sort of "burning" address? You just suggested a great way to remove honest ads from blockchain with 100% warranty and known number of reports. Without human moderation all "report spam" features becomes powerful weapon that will be abusedI know, if a group of people want to sabotage a post they can massively give it a bad feedback, but some form of auto-regulation should be thought. As we do in "real" life. DECENTRALIZED DEVELOPMENT I think Pavel is up for the task of developing Craig, even if it's doing it slowly. He can lay down the fundamentals of the coin and get it to work smoothly now, but in the future a huge thing like this cannot rely on a single (centralized!!!) developer for many reasons. It could be a good thing if, as new ideas need to get implemented into Craig, more than one Dev could workon it. Maybe in turn. I think it's fair if they could be paid for what they do, but how? Maybe a special fund made from staking could be used for this purpose. Once a Dev has finished his job and peers voluntarily review what has been done, he/she gets paid. Let's put all our ideas on the table and have a discussion! I pointed my thoughts on the subject with red in your quote Great we can talk about development ideas and not fighting FUD! For the decentralized exchange I need to take a proper look to blackhalo by blackcoin, maybe something like that can help... but I confess I haven't had much time these past weeks to learn about it. But it could be something worth to look at. For SPAM. Good! So we have come to a point that we need some moderation? Of course feedback can be abused, but look at it the other way around.... even without any control at all the system can be really abusive, even more! Some self moderation from community should be done IMO. What would you do if you saw a man selling pictures of naked kids in some squares in Moscow? What do you think other people would do? I'm sure that guy wouldn't do it for long once it's spotted! So, as in real life humans are keen (or should be) to be "protective", why when we are behind a keyboard we shouldn't? I know you want a system that is perfect and unbreakable, so I wish, but we as humans are not mature enough at the moment. So if we don't want someone from outside to moderate us, we need to self moderate. Maybe in a decade or two we grow and this is not needed anymore. So, should we all have a discussion about this topic and see if we come out with a good solution? mass |
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Maybe we need a decentralized exchange first, in case Craig is banned from exchanges as Pavel pointed out.
Then we can have a dynamic fee, but I don't think 0,3$ is too much, I was thinking much more, something like 1$.
Also I'm thinking if we can try to peg the value of a Craig to something... but I need to think about it some more.
This will not solve spam problems anyway, maybe it will help reduce it, but 1$ or 0.5$ won't stop people to post stupid things if they want to.
Here we need to evolve as a community and try to mature. Maybe we need to confirm every post, like we need confirmations for normal transactions.
Let's say before a post is passed into the blockchain it needs to have 75% (or 100% or 51% etc) positive valuation (and a minimum number of votes)
Tx adv fee will be used in part to keep development alive and in part to pay those who take part in the confirmation process.
It may become even a job for some people, and a real life application for a cryptocoin.
I'm throwing these ideas on the table for now.
P.S: forgive my English, I need to brush it up.
Why would it be banned from exchanges? -------- I would like community voting to approve posts, but that too is susceptible to fud or spam. At this point, 5 people downvoting every submission would mean nothing gets posted. -------- Your English is fine TX FEE An exchange could remove Craig for any reasons, it doesn't matter what the reason is. As we rely on it's value to (dynamically?) set the tx fee for ads, it would be a good idea to have some sort of decentralized excg as a first thing. So if Craig doesn't depend on anything that is centralized for this, we are ok. SPAM. You're right, confirming posts is not feasible but still, a form of decentralized and wide "control" over posts should be done, even if they last a week or a day. I know we're trying to build this system to be as free as possible but who would like to keep (even for a short time) something about pedophilia or other weird things? I hope none. Someone on a previous post suggested something like a "report as inappropriate" feature to be implemented. If a post gets a number of negative feedback, it gets removed. I'm not sure if it can be removed from the blockchain, probabily not, maybe it can be sent to some sort of "burning" address? I know, if a group of people want to sabotage a post they can massively give it a bad feedback, but some form of auto-regulation should be thought. As we do in "real" life. DECENTRALIZED DEVELOPMENT I think Pavel is up for the task of developing Craig, even if it's doing it slowly. He can lay down the fundamentals of the coin and get it to work smoothly now, but in the future a huge thing like this cannot rely on a single (centralized!!!) developer for many reasons. It could be a good thing if, as new ideas need to get implemented into Craig, more than one Dev could workon it. Maybe in turn. I think it's fair if they could be paid for what they do, but how? Maybe a special fund made from staking could be used for this purpose. Once a Dev has finished his job and peers voluntarily review what has been done, he/she gets paid. Let's put all our ideas on the table and have a discussion! |
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Sorry I missed them. Brainstorm would be useful.
Let's think about spam problem and what should be done with ADTx fee. Nobody working in that direction because there is no decision on that account yet.
---Adaptive ADTx fee will partly help to solve the spam problem. Not many people will want to pay $0.30 to post "ass ass ass ass"! Right now an ad costs $0.0028, so people can post 4 ads for a penny, there is nothing to discourage spam. From the website: "I invented a formula that reflects CRAIG market price and automatically adjust the fee accordingly. This formula is hard coded into the coin itself in order to stay decentralized and independent of any external market/exchange." ^^^^^Please just implement that formula^^^^^ It does not matter that exchanges are centralized like you said before. It just matters that ADTx fee matches the value of the coin. It should not cost $0.30 though. I would be interested to hear what others think, but $0.20 or $0.25 seems more reasonable. Maybe we need a decentralized exchange first, in case Craig is banned from exchanges as Pavel pointed out. Then we can have a dynamic fee, but I don't think 0,3$ is too much, I was thinking much more, something like 1$. Also I'm thinking if we can try to peg the value of a Craig to something... but I need to think about it some more. This will not solve spam problems anyway, maybe it will help reduce it, but 1$ or 0.5$ won't stop people to post stupid things if they want to. Here we need to evolve as a community and try to mature. Maybe we need to confirm every post, like we need confirmations for normal transactions. Let's say before a post is passed into the blockchain it needs to have 75% (or 100% or 51% etc) positive valuation (and a minimum number of votes) Tx adv fee will be used in part to keep development alive and in part to pay those who take part in the confirmation process. It may become even a job for some people, and a real life application for a cryptocoin. I'm throwing these ideas on the table for now. P.S: forgive my English, I need to brush it up. |
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Just to let you know, the wallet is all done and tested, including anon. We're just waiting on one of the exchanges so we can set the final coin swap date. Once its confirmed we'll also confirm all the new specs.
Any news from exchanges? I'd like to buy some before the swap. The one we're waiting for has replied, just hasn't supplied a date yet. I've asked them to get us a eta asap. Hoping Mon-Tues Hi!
Is there a Dope address where we can donate to support development?
I can get one set up, what would you prefer BTC/DOPE old/DOPE new? Hi! Emm, another thing, maybe the most important of all... .. what's happened to the Miss Dopecoin contest!? Not sure, I can reach out to Dopey if you like? Hi Aaron. You can setup a current DOPE address for now and another when swap is done. Maybe people are more willing to donate now that value is still low, so an "old" DOPE address would be ok now. Don't worry about getting in touch with Dopey, he (she?) is on this forum quite often. Good plan: Current dope wallet address 4EjMqs1rADnqndjtD6fMvp9gnQWCTBbxVg Once we're converted to the new wallet, I'll post the new address so everbody can see what is in there. 100K should be on their way to the donation wallet. Let's see if some unwise guy dumps on my buy order so I can give some more |
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Just to let you know, the wallet is all done and tested, including anon. We're just waiting on one of the exchanges so we can set the final coin swap date. Once its confirmed we'll also confirm all the new specs.
Any news from exchanges? I'd like to buy some before the swap. The one we're waiting for has replied, just hasn't supplied a date yet. I've asked them to get us a eta asap. Hoping Mon-Tues Hi!
Is there a Dope address where we can donate to support development?
I can get one set up, what would you prefer BTC/DOPE old/DOPE new? Hi! Emm, another thing, maybe the most important of all... .. what's happened to the Miss Dopecoin contest!? Not sure, I can reach out to Dopey if you like? Hi Aaron. You can setup a current DOPE address for now and another when swap is done. Maybe people are more willing to donate now that value is still low, so an "old" DOPE address would be ok now. Don't worry about getting in touch with Dopey, he (she?) is on this forum quite often. |
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Hi! Is there a Dope address where we can donate to support development? Emm, another thing, maybe the most important of all... .. what's happened to the Miss Dopecoin contest!? |
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I also own quite a few Craig and I feel this project could go very far! I'm sure we can bring this thread back to a constructive discussion about how to improve the coin with fresh new ideas! ... and leave the heaters and fudsters out of the door! Pavel please share with us what's boiling up so we can share with you our thoughts and suggestions! Thanks. mass |
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