Please don't shill.

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Thank you.

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I read the poll, but I can't vote. The choices swing wildly between I trust Rob, and "someone is stealing", with nothing in between. I feel like I'm being led to agree with statements I wouldn't make. My answer to the poll would be, "unable to determine trust level due to lack of information and ability to currently verify much of anything." Asking someone to verify integrity is a difficult thing, at least with as little as I know.

1. Know you're in the wild, wild west.
2. Research, research, research.
3. Learn to discern between posts that contain factual information, and mindless shilling.
4. Make a list of 5 or so coins that look interesting to you. Know why you think they are promising.
5. Do paper trading, that is, write a buy date and coin down, and track it for months. Learn from the ones that lose and gain, the reasons why.

This should give you a risk-free introduction.

bbp fork? Oh, that's right, the algo is closed-source.

I'm amazed to see people who I associate as being part of the backbone of the project being treated so poorly. This looks like a great idea that turned into to a house divided. Sad.

I'm hesitant to proceed with a coin that doesn't seem to have a working explorer?

I really like the lesser energy use and impact on the hardware. It's quite a contrast to the never-ending hashing arms race of btc. Satoshi's vision of fairness is intact here.

Reputation is a funny thing, because it has to form naturally from outside. It can't be forced or created from the inside.

Let's say I'm starting a business, and I meet a potential partner. I can't just take his or her word for their competence, I have to ask around. This word-of-mouth is very important to getting an accurate opinion of a person or project. I would say in terms of BBP, making it more newb friendly (it's amazing how complicated the setup can get even compared to grc), and providing more use case, to bring in more new folks and let the reputation form naturally.. If this is just an excuse to sponsor orphans or boinc crunch, then what is the real use case? Why would someone use BBP or buy it (and don't get me started on masternodes)? If I went down the my local church and talked about the project, what use case would I present to a group that's already involved in charity? People need to hear about the project from folks other than the ones heavily involved in the project.

I do feel that attempts to create reputation always backfire. For example, I was reading https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2906738.0 that was reviewing different faith-based coins. Cool idea, but the thread became such an advertisement for BBP, that it appeared to just be straight shilling. All the subsequent posts were touting the benefits of BBP, and looked very biased to my eyes. (Only pointing out the negative aspects of the other coins and the positive ones of BBP).  It's a fine line between informating, touting and shilling. It seems like everyone is doing this with their coins though.

One thing I don't understand as a newb is all the controversy surrounding the coin. Why is there so much issue with proving the charity work, genesis block, etc. Is it because some people are trying to poke at BBP to show it's not moral? It seems like these concerns should have been put to rest already somehow. And my opinion is that it's taking a lot of energy dealing with those doesn't help the reputation. If there's some definitive information people are looking for to reassure them, by all means provide it, and then let's move on. I saw some anti-BBP posts that were clearly trolling and do those even need addressing? Is it because the coin needs defending, or the religion? Just a thought.

As far as looking for something that's not there, it wouldn't be the first time I've done that, and I appreciate the explanation from Bible_pay above. Thanks for reading my rant. I do think about this project and what it can help. Mostly, I'd like to see a lot more volume in trade, which again is something that can't be manufactured. Sure, lets' get to $.01 per BBP, but how? Just saying boots-on-ground doesn't give me direction. A lot of people will have to buy the coin to get to a penny, and besides masternodes or staking, why would they? It's just an innocent question.

What I took from his message is BBP needs a lot more third-party reviews and news, that's not coming from within BBP. You can hire auditors or PIs, but that's BBP justifying BBP. I believe that if there was more information coming from OUTSIDE, it would be a big help. The coin needs reputation, not justification.

Did you seriously write --BiblePay added new Charity Report Command: "exec theymos". That's just silly, unprofessional and pandering.

It looks like USDT is really falling apart with big liquidity issues. I can't imagine who'd want to accumulate it. Did you see how BTC reacted?


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$2 in daily volume today. 

Why would we need to reserve asset names?

Thanks for the information about PrivateSend. If it is decentralized, then it seems that person's criticism wasn't well-founded.

I realize BBP is a fork of Dash, but I guess I hold the two to different standards. Isn't Dash (and 99% of crypto) mostly just concerned with making money? BBP has the distinction of also being interested in charity work. But it would be silly of me to propose a new kind of governance.

I don't see how devs could or should prevent forks. There will always be BTC forks. That the devs aren't paid is the testament to their motivation, and I think it does well to spread the developing duties across a large number of people? How many devs does BBP have? What would be the impact if Rob wasn't in the picture? Could it survive as well as BTC has without Satoshi? I'm fine with devs being paid, BTW, just wonder how centralized BBP is, in terms of dev work. I just wonder about a potential vulnerability with that.

Honestly, I think the current governance model is fine for BBP. There are too many decision being made to not have some sort of centralized governance. This is probably silly, but I spend time try to reconcile what crypto is about in terms of spirituality since finding BBP. I've actually wondered which crypto would Jesus choose. And I keep thinking something like Dash leans too much towards oligarchy. Those with "the most skin in the game" are those already sitting on the largest pile of coins.  There needs to be enough room for new users to thrive. As a new person with few coins, I have to look at pools like bbpool @ 35% fees (?!?!) because my stake is too low. Yes, I could purchase the coins outright for however few it takes now, but I'm speaking as a miner, not an investor.

My biggest concern about BBP is the extremely low trading volume. I actually spent more money the other day than BBP traded worldwide. One person with even limited funds could pump-and-dump the living daylights out of our coin. Why do you think the volume is so low? To me, that can indicate a "closed-loop", where the emphasis is on holding and staking. Have you see what's going on with BCI? $2500 daily volume on almost $18mil market cap with 80% of the coins already in circulation? There's nothing going on but staking. Maybe staking is the next big thing, and I'm just a PoW dinosaur, and that's the best path for BBP.  This just my view as the "little guy". Thanks for your reply and thoughtful post.  

I may have misread, but I read it as coin mixing isn't safe because an unfriendly masternode might see both side of the transaction? Not that the entire private pay could be easily compromised. Don't the masternodes have to see the addresses on both sides?

The more I read about Dash, the less I like it. The emphasis on masternodes lacks the graceful democracy that BTC was based upon. It seems those with the most coins get more coins? Also, that kind of structure (masternodes) requires trust and ever-growing governance. I think that it can create a closed-loop, where new folks don't catch up as well. Anyway, BBP is it's own thing, and hopefully will avoid some of the fighting that seems to plague the Dash community.

I hope that many people try to squat on the asset names. It will be a futile effort, as the important thing is what the physical asset that is being tied to the raven asset. Having a cool sounding name without a real asset behind it sounds fun but useless. So burn your raven away, domain squatters!

As stated earlier, there's a few outgoing orphan letters that could really use your upvotes. It only takes a few seconds to vote and get those letters out.

They don't seem that similar. For one Ravencoin doesn't take a 10% dev fee on all coins.

How are they able to promise this:

Investors can earn 5% apr interest from term deposits even if the wallet is offline. First 3 months monthly term deposit apr will be 25% apr to encourage early adopters and investors.  


Anyway, Go RVN!

It also sets up hypocrisy, as the moderator(s) can post any personal attacks he/they want, but the laypeople here get censored.  If someone can call someone else a Satanist or abuser, shouldn't I be able to say that some people are acting like an ass?

I think some folks need to grow up, and consider that some readers might really judge Christianity based on what they read here.

We'll see if this post will live...

I'd actually rather talk about what we can do to promote this coin. So much of the effort has been around the charity, which of course is central and important. But getting people to buy the coin and getting more volume...what can we do for that?

Worked perfect, many thanks! For each 100 of minersleep, it reduced the CPU usage by ~10%. Would love to hash at full throttle, but with BOINC running, the system was getting hot. Cheers and blessings.

Thank you for that explanation. If I may press my luck for more help...

I'm having difficulty with the wallet and CPU usage-- it seems the CPU for BBP Core hangs out at 40% and doesn't go much lower (on a 7th gen celeron).  I have a 2nd wallet on an intel i7 with gneproclimit = 1 and it does the same.
Here's my config from the celeron:


Anything I can change further to lower the CPU usage? Thanks.

Edit: I'm noticing in Transactions, there is a PODC update that seems stuck on confirming. I'll let it run for a bit and see if when done the CPU goes back to normal.

Anyone have any thoughts about using the biblepay pool vs. the purepool? Are there situations where one is preferable to the other?

Mine says Waiting until 10/30/2018 1700.

5pm, be there or be square.