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@burnin,
I would like to know is Bitburner xx is going to get EU country of origin certificate and also confirmation of final price for product.
Thanks for reply.

They have agreed to take _%_ profits from sales and place bids with that

Hey guys, i let you in on a little secret: the largest and most powerful miners are unionizing. They have agreed to take _%_ profits from sales and place bids with that. No requirement to place bids that are likely to be filled. Just within about $10 of current orders. They can be pulled too, without punishment/scolding from leaders. The idea is increase sense of support = temp stimulus until more USD comes to Gox.

So as long as this stimulus can last, it is a good time to buy! My bet is it can last years. It is a virtual certainty that demand/USD shall return within then.

ps:

insiders who have emails/forum posts from the union "leaders" plz post so folks here don't think im a liar.

A Mars FPGA miner nothing to do with ASIC.

KNC is a new company and apart from the current project, they have no direct experience in ASIC design,

ORSOC on the other hand has some limited experience.
Several projects completed? KNC has ZERO completed ASIC projects.

All I see on ORSOC website under ASIC related "projects" is this:

Pre-study and architectural design for ASIC project
ORSoC supports a customer with expertise in “pre-study” work for a big ASIC project. The work will result in decision of how to design the product to achieve best possible performance and in the same time assure future proof design that can handle different standards. ORSoC is also involved in work of setting up the design environment including verification strategies.


ASIC design in large ASIC development project
ORSoC is assigned to participate in large ASIC development project. The project includes design and verification of one of the bigger cores in the ASIC. This project require expert skills within VHDL design and verification as well as good knowledge of the standards used in the mobile telecom industry. The projects involves many people which makes it important to work in a structured way in a project team and follow the development models sued by the customer.

ASIC timing error verification
ORSoC helped this customer too investigate why their ASIC was malfunctioning sporadically. This error occurred after they transferred the ASIC to another ASIC process.

If you have some "details" with actual links of their previous ASIC projects viz a viz Clients, Project Value ($), production volumes,completion dates etc, I would love to have a read through them,

Whilst I agree that they may appear to be better organized and initially positioned than BFL and AVALON, they still have to deliver a product.

cheers,
kev