Or if you eliminate the people manipulating the trust system, then you have the real trust rating

Presstabs explorers are the best I have seen.  You get alot of information for the coins we love. He did an outstanding job with these explorers.

Whenever there is a problem in the financial industry of a country, be it from wars or other situations the normal routine is to use a fail safe method to store your money and its value, so after the disaster the true value of your money has not been impacted by the disaster.

Example: A country goes to war, you buy gold, after the war that countries value on its money has decreased yet your money was stored in Gold thus holding its original value and giving you more of your currency now than you had before.

Maybe he is trying to advise using Bitcoin as  a way to hold and store yourb money until the financial markets get back to the norm.

I agree put up a poll, to many pages to keep track.

@suchmoon first that is not "My thread" that is called a smear campaign put on by Gleb gamow, and and enforced by you and a few others, second No I will not be replying and feeding you or Glebs causes anymore, your questions have been addressed and answered, all of your accusations have been disproved, and no matter if you like the answers or not, those are the facts.

Lets try and stay on topic here, Gleb proves himself to be this instrumental entity in Bitcointalk, espouses Leadership and has experience in Mining and manufacturing being he was a subcontractor for BFL, i was simply advising this young man to seek expert advice on his queries, if You guys can not help him with his situation there is no use in posting off topic cross threaded links. Just say I'M sorry I am not the expert I espouse to be and move on.

A lot really depends on what kind of miners we are talking about, he could set up the farm to mine multiple scrypt alt coins in hopes to get some good rewards, or find a POS hybrid he can scrypt mine and stake while mining to, but to be honest even then it would have been more profitable to just buy the coins he was going to stake and do it that way all together.

For sure in order for people to help you here they will need to know exactly what you bought, not necessarily where you bought it, but what kind of miners they are. Someone can surely walk you thru the set up. I would advise asking Gleb Gamow, he seems to be an expert at everything Crypto related, I am sure he will know exactly how you can hook up those miners up for the most efficient mining experience. He used to do subcontracting work for BFL. Try him.

I think he is referring to Scrypt.cc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64



Commodore 64
Hardware
Type   Home computer
Release date   August 1982; 33 years ago[1][2]
Introductory price   US$595 (approx. $1,500 today)
Discontinued   April 1994; 21 years ago
Units sold   12.5[3] – 17[4] million
Operating system   Commodore KERNAL/
Commodore BASIC 2.0
GEOS (optionally)
CPU   MOS Technology 6510/8500
@ 1.023 MHz (NTSC version)
@ 0.985 MHz (PAL version)
Memory   64 kB RAM + 20 kB ROM
Graphics   VIC-II (320 × 200, 16 colors, sprites, raster interrupt)
Sound   SID 6581 (3× osc, 4× wave, filter, ADSR, ring)
Connectivity   2× CIA 6526 joystick, Power, ROM cartridge, RF, A/V, IEEE-488 floppy-printer, digital tape, GPIO/RS-232
Predecessor   Commodore VIC-20
Commodore MAX Machine
Successor   Commodore 128

HOW MANY OF THESE WOULD YOU NEED TO MINE 1 BTC HAHAHAHAHA 64 kB OF RAM I DO NOT MISS THE OLD DAYS

The question you, and everyone is really asking is the same one that you avoid over and over and over. How is it possible you can dig in my life clear back to the late 1990's, the lying scamming idiot you boast i am and find all this stuff, BUT not one single instance where I have scammed anyone, not one single instance where i have stolen from anyone, not one tiny little situation where it proves I am a scammer. I mean that si the time spam of basically my whole adult life, and you cant find one claim, not one shred of evidence to back your claim up, how is that possible Bruno? This is the real questions, since you do accuse me so much of being this lying scammer, how is it possible that in all this research your efforts have produced you have ultimately came up fruitless like those coconut tress in that picture up their?

You are right bruno i see no real intelligence in trying to lower my energy costs, i guess the thousands of people out there doing the same thing we were doing are all idiots for trying to find ways to lower their energy costs and energy consumption. And who ever heard of looking into something before you heavily invest in it? I guess maybe we should have just dropped the thousands of dollars on a full system. No need to experiment and learn the system, that would be a waste of time and money wouldn't it. that way every time there was a situation i can just dump some more money and call a guy to fix it huh. yea your right that seems the best route to go doesn't it bruno?

 I have to wonder maybe it is this mindset that cost you so much bitcoin in your crypto venture you know. i mean not researching things, not experimenting, jumping in with both feet and blind faith seems to be the route you wished for me to take right? Is this how you got scammed out of thousands of bitcoin in the past Sir?

YES I started by trading off the market thru other people JUST LIKE I SAID I DID. That post you pulled up and want to reference and give yet another fabricated lie, yes that was talking about Purchasing products with bitcoin in person, not purchasing Bitcoins in person. Please stop purposely twisting unrelated posts to fabricate lies. Purchasing products with Bitcoins themselves in person, is not the same thing as trading them offline thru what potentially could be considered a broker in a sorts. I am not saying the gentlemen was a broker, but if we had to put a term on it that would be the closest.

And yes Bitcoin talk is full of people who do not help each others, i was not lying. lets take your past for example Bruno how many projects have you tried to launch where you had floods of people who wanted to join your cause, who authentically wanted to help you get going and gave useful information as to how to get the project launched... Ahh yes now you see huh, why so many of your attempts failed huh, now my post makes much more sense doesn't it? Also, look at what you are doing for example, are you helping me, others see the potential StakeMiners could serve, and what are you trying to do to it. Is it helping Stakeminers bruno, have you offered any input to helps us in hopes for us to have something that will not scam investors, what exactly have you done that has helped me, stakeminers, or anyone else for that matter in your 8000+ posts?

Bruno i am a go getter I need not anyone's "expect" advice as you put it. I researched on my own just like my post states, I did the work, I figured it out as best i could with my own research. Just because I was not formally a member somewhere does not mean I could not read the posts. The best way to learn an industry is do the work yourself and learn from your own mistakes. This is why StakeMiners is so successful, we tested things, we tried them long before launching the website, so when it was launched we knew exactly what had to be done. we now do the same things over and over, we have policies in place and so far that system has worked quite well.

Setting up GPU Rigs, USB miners, Rockminers, Dragon Miners, and Zeus Miners is not the same Bruno, a person with your experience knows that so dont dare try and say any different, they even use different versions of mining software in order to function wityh toitally seperate batch file commands and options. Getting new equipment means researching new situations.

Butt hurt wall of text, i advise you scroll up and read your own posts some of which consume 1/4 of the page. That is a true wall of text sir. If you dont want the answers Bruno dont ask the questions, its very simple. I do not havbe to twist your words to prove you wrong, but it seems you have to twisty unrelated posts, draw attention to things you would like to point out in order to fabricate lies, why is it I dont have to do any of that when disproving you?

I know I have said this before, and yes it may seem like I am lying, so lets make this clear, None of you are to ask me to address anything in Brunos threads, please do notbait me to come here to defend myself any longer against Bruino. if he was honest, and it really was a scam accusation, yea i could come here, but his repeated attempts to fabricate lies, the repeated disproving of his claims, and the way he has tried on numbnerous attempts to compare unrelated topics writtin years apart in hopes you will see a lie in his distracting posts, I am just seriously tired of it. we are just feeding the guy. He has no real proof, and what he considers proof is nothing more than using two posts written by the victim which are not related to one another in an attempt to fabricate a lie. I seriously wish I had the time bruno has where i bet if you follow the other people has attacked, i will bet you the same exact pattern happens in every attack he has made.

If you guys want answers please just come to me directly, i have no problem wiht you setting up a way for us to communicte directly wioht one another and you can ask all you want. you can record the conversation and put it all right here i do not mind. But I just can not continue to do this, bruno has his own hidden agenda that so far has worked quite well and I just cant feed him any longer, he is just wasting my time and building post couints on these useless threads.

I do apologize to those of you seeking answers, but these threads is not where you can get the real truth. So if you really want answers ask me directly, then if you want bring those answers here, it is not hard to speak with me person to person, as well as join a hangout where I have plenty of people who tell you what kind of person I am to the best of their ability and based on the experiences thay have with me. not like Bruno who is scared to get in a one on one with me.

Yea bruno cause thats the first thing we did after the fire, we didnt need to clean the building, its just magically cleaned itself, we certainly did not need to rebuild it becasue the tree fairies came down and did that for us, and after that was done, the magical wizard of computers just mysteriously waved his magic wand and a room was filled with Pisonet computers. I mean none of that took time at all right? I mean what they can build a building in 4 hours today right, so its should have been easy to have a fire on december 8th then instantly be back up and operational on december 9. Please make sure when you visit my other website you click my referral links, dont just go there to waste time and daydream.

Bruno what is your point about the west facing roof.
The building was built for water runoff not for solar power. and no matter if it was the way the roof ended up being was the best place for the solar panels anyways. please get on your google earth again, and notice the HUGE OPEN FIELD to the ...wait for it....WAIT FOR IT.... TO THE WEST, yes open field to the West of the building. See the north and the south? Mango trees, coconut trees, Bamboo trees, also right in front of the building coconut trees. Why would anyone in their right mind face the panel south on the roof that was shaded by huge mango trees? Have you been here bruno, did you see the building first hand, did you touch it, Ok then how can you possibly know what is the best for that area, because you read it from some professor in manila i a college and no trees around for hundreds of kilometers. I mean how often do we listen and do exactly as an expert advises? I did what was best for our area and our building, I did not need to call the guy in Manila and ask his advice or his permission, i did what the sun and my roof provided. I know you dont like it, and I am sure that everything in your house is exactly how the professors at MIT would expect to see, But I am not you.

Can i ask you a question Bruno? Is there a reason you like burying my posts when I disprove yours or anyone elses accusations. Now thats not fair is it, You certainly want everyone to see what you are saying. so when you get the proof and you see your wrong, dont bury the answer so they cant find it, thats just unethical man, play fair or do not play at all sir. thats not very nice at all.

yes suchmoon is doing a great deal ofwork on another forum, he likes attacking from 2 fronts, an asks the same questions on both forums, I am not sure what the point of that is except to assume it is a purposeful attack to ruin something I have created and am building. I mean who has time to waste to do this on 2 forums.

Another big attacker on that other forum is a direct competitor who is failing at his pool where we are succeeding. And there are the few others like you have in here. I am well aware of the discomfort you have established.

But, no matter how hard you do try bruno the facts still remain you have not proven i am a scammer nor that I have ever scammed anyone, i mean lets be honest here for a minute, I know it can be complicated at times, but you dug in my life clear back in the late 90's from one of my other business I had, You are telling me in all that research, all that digging you found just about every single thing negative that has happened in my life, you degraded it, you laughed at it like it was some kins of joke to you, you have insulted my wife, insulted my family, insulted my investors and stakeminers. But in all that research you cant find one single soul to verify your claims against me Bruno. I mean I am this huge liar right, so at some point being the supposed liar I am surely you can find 1 instance where someone has been scammed by me, one instance where I stole from someone right? I mean you can not even find a post you can twist like you do all this other stuff to make it look like I scammed someone...

Whats that tell ya bruno?

EDIT since bruno does not seem interested in getting the trust of my life and would rather rant on the forum while collecting his post counts he so loves and needs. If there is a question in here from another post Bruno makes please PM me and ask, set up a way to talk with me. I will gladly answer any questions you have for me, I offer you the same opportunity I have given to bruno. Get you some Pepsi, and cigarettes if you smoke and set it up, I will be there to talk with you on any questions you have.

I am afraid you have misunderstood the post , It does not say the farm started with 10THS. Now I understand why you seem so confused about your points. I do apologize that you did not understand the post as it was written and misinterpreted it as meaning something else. let me help you to better understand what was really written. Yes we had 10 THS of mining power between the time we began mining and the time we stopped mining. Yes we do still have some of that machinery.  The mention of the hashrate lower than the 10THS from the other post was possibly in reference to the hashrate of one of the sections of the hardware, we had a few different kinds of miners. Remember times move on , things change, items are added, items are sold , upgrades are made, this is common knowledge in mining. I can not dare to post an exact date because I may be off by a week or two and that may make me look like  a liar so i cant give you exact dates. I mean we are talking about something that happened in 2014 correct?

I have already addressed this second section of your post in another thread that of which you have already read and replied in, please take the time to read that post so we are not cross posting in threads talking about the same exact topics, as that is not productive forum behavior. It only trolls threads and makes them much longer than they need to be and that is not professional at all.

The addresses have been published and my knowledge of blockchain technology is not expert but its not lacking in any way. The security situation i mentioned have well be proven that altho very unlikely by an average hacker can be accomplished none the least. If you think that it can not I would take a look into your own views of security as they may not be up to par. I am sure there are people on the Get Hashing forum who can help you with the areas of security you are lacking in.

A fire is not something anyone can expect nor is prepared for, especially when the building is less than a year old with brand new everything. The fire was caused by an irresponsible person which makes it that much harder to be ready for. As I mentioned the fire destroyed the Main external hard drive and the 3 backup USBs that were in different parts of the building. I do apologize I was more worried about getting my daughter and wife out of the building before I was worried about a USB that had only my own bitcoins on it. The wonderful thing about disasters in your life is that you learn from them, we have backups of StakeMiners information outside of the office safe and secure so if something happens here we have backups that will not be effected. FYI the backups are a distance of about 10 Hours apart

And if you could please edit your post so it is more truthful so not to mislead people we were experimenting with the solar panels not the mining equipment. But I am sure you already knew that didnt you. You joker, are you trying to get one over on us?

You know bruno if I tell you why we did the things we did for my wifes family (it was not her cousins both times I already addressed that above please read the whole thing so you are not confused) but if I told you, your just going to make fun of me and call my wife more names with more racial slurs and sexual comments, But I will tell you we had good intentions at heart and there were good reasons. but like I said i would rather not keep delving in my horrible things that have repeatedly stuck me in the back as I traveled the path of life. Your just another stab in the back man life has thrown at me, and to be honest its just a tiny little prick (no pun intended) compared to the stuff my wife and I have gone thru and came out of.

We will make it thru you, past your insults, your fabrications, your rudeness, your disgustingly foul language, your desperate attempts to ruin a great opportunity for people. We will not stop doing what we are doing for StakeMiners or its investors because of you. I will not let someone like you ruin the opportunity we have built, the system that to date although a very small amount has paid  close to $10,000.00 dollars in BTC to its investors. SO i will not go away, i will not stop, the system we built is working very well so far, the investors who are with us are happy, and we do a lot of work you dont even know nor give credit for. I wanted to provide the community with an opportunity that will benefit them, something they can depend on, and sir, I will not let you or your opinions hold me or StakeMiners back. We will continue to work hard for the people invested with us, respect them, and their wishes, and there is nothing you can say or do that will stop me.

If there is a question in here from another post Bruno makes please PM me and ask, set up a way to talk with me. I will gladly answer any questions you have for me, I offer you the same opportunity I have given to bruno. Get you some Pepsi, and cigarettes if you smoke and set it up, I will be there to talk with you on any questions you have.

It is you spreading the satire bruno, this whole thread is full of it, what you think no one notices?

I never said there were 2 fires, (you did) I actually proved to you where you tried to fabricate another lie out of 2 sentences to make it seem like there was a contradiction. You wanted to make it look like there were 2 fires. You are just talking in circles now bruno, I dont even see what ti is I am trying to disprove anymore, i have disproved everything and you just wont accept it. 2 fires, where the panels were facing, I did not say i was ripped off twice by cousins you did. Bruno you know what man, just stop lying man, these constant bickering and purposely trying to fabricate things is really getting annoying. You are wasting so much of my time  with your going around in circles trying to push your fabricated points. There were not 2 fires and you know it, You know i didnt say it so why keep going on about it? where and how I put my solar panels is none of your business, That is the way the roof slanted, the roof was not constructed for solar it was built for rainfall, deal with it man, get over it.

Bruno the story from 2012 was not our cousin. Id rather not go into personal details and let a dead dog die, but I know you wont let it go and act as if I was lying.

 In 2012 I was talking about my wifes direct family, we owned a coconut farm and the instructions were they were to get it harvested and split the funds 50/50, our 50% was to go into the bank and the other 50% was to be used to pay for her brothers college. When we got here we found out neither was happening and all the funds were being spent on other things. in 2014 after we sold the Cafe we had an opportunity to get in on an investment with my wifes cousin, promises were made and it all started out well (much like scam places here) then just poof he vanished and took our investment with him. We finally caught up to him where he made more promises to repay the stolen funds but never has. 2 different situations Bruno.

 I do not see how this is anyone's business Bruno, I am asking you nicely to Stop digging up the horrible crap my wife and I have gone thru, I am not this evil scamming lying nasty theif and criminal you are praying to make me out to be. I do not want to relive these horrible things that have happened to us, You may think its funny, It may be a fun game to you, and you may be sitting there laughing, but you know what man, My wife and I are the ones that had to experience that crap man, i do not appreciate you plastering the horrible things that happened to me and my wife because you want to find discrepancies in my postings.

Lets just sum this whole argument between you and me up very simply, I think i have enough proof now to say this, if something does not add up, It is not because I lied, many things happen to many people, things out of our control change the goals we wish to achieve, sometimes good things happen, most of the time good things do not happen. but the end result is very simple, if a post from 2012 doesnt match exactly with a post from 2014 its not that I lied bruno, its just you dont have all the information from one or the other, and if you dont see it online its because we prefered to keep some of it private.

Unfortunately no sir, you have once again assumed incorrectly. As the sentence reads that you distracted the readers from focusing on, it states it is a grocery store, the sari sari traffic it is referencing is the sari sari stores who purchased their goods from our grocery store. see the store was located between 2 large cities and right outside of a small town, so most sari sari owners came to us for their products they needed.

Just out of curiosity Bruno can you explain to the readers what a grocery store, disco bar or any of the things you have been pointing out really have to do with a multicoin, POS staking pool and cloud mining service. How exactly does POW equipment, solar panels, Grocery stores, disco bars, internet cafes, what does any of that have to do with StakeMiners?

IT seems you are again talking in circles Bruno, and pulling numbers and figures out of thin air. Please scroll up and re-read my little story I provided you and lets not dwell on statements made that may have been advertising tactics that everyone uses.

 I apologize to have proven your assumptions of me wrong, and I do appreciate you have the time to look into my life, research me like you do as well as professors input in the Philippines and how they feel solar panels should be hooked up. Very well done, however things people advise are not always followed, experts in this very forum also stated you could not get into bitcoin without using massive amounts of money in order to do so and I proved that wrong, this very forum also states it is not profitable to solo mine BTC 3 years ago, another statement that of which was false. So sometimes, like in our case, not only is it good to do your own research you also have to do with what tools you have at hand, i had a roof that slanted to the west, So we put solar up on there. enough Solar which I clearly stated DID NOT POWER THE WHOLE FARM but was just supplemental energy to lower our electricity costs. SO I apologize if experienced solar power professors and expert electricians like yourself do not agree with what we had to do, but we used whatever the situation at hand presented us with, and since it was supplemental only, any additional electricity thew couple panels we had provided was better than nothing.

If you want real information about StakeMiners please use the official thread, this thread seems to be full of misleading errors. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=989670.0

Yes you are correct the slant did face west so at the end of the day it got as much sunlight as possible however that is not why it faced that way, common water runoff knowledge came it play when designing the building. As you can see the building set down lower than the road, we made the roof slanted the way it did so the rain run off would go to the back of the building instead of the front where people would sit and drink or eat, it ran off the roof and down to the river which was not the size of any river I would consider to be a river, for me I would have considered it more a creek than a river, but it was called a river on the maps so.

It worked out quite well that way for the panels in that facing north or south direct sunlight would get cut off earlier and would have been shaded by the vast amount of bamboo coconut and mango trees on the north and south of us  but facing west it allowed sun to hit them full stream from 8 to 9 AM until 5 to 6 PM when the sun finally set, facing north or south or east and it would not have been as strong at the end of the day.

Bruno stop saying there will be an ROI at the end of the day you know for a fact that is not true, so stop posting it. We do not promote a fast ROI in StakeMiners and I ask you to stop doing it as well, you are misleading people into believing in something that is just not possible with a real investment opportunity.