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201  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: $300k worth of bitcoin from FTX moved to this one address? on: November 13, 2023, 11:44:33 PM
First things First, did you file for your claims through a portal provided by Kroll Restructuring Administration? I read some posts, and it seems the former customers were given some deadline to file for their claims

Now, about the movement of the Bitcoins, nobody can be sure what's going on. Maybe they are moving the Bitcoins so that they can sell them in order to start processing the refunds, but I am still very sceptical if people will even receive their full amounts, if there is even a chance of receiving any.

No, I couldn't unfortunately since I needed an FTX account it was the first step. A gambling casino owner sent my money to an FTX wallet and the company who owned this wallet said they highly doubted they could retrieve my money back since it was after the ftx collapse so they didn't try. The company also told me they were waiting months to receive their money back as well.
202  Economy / Trading Discussion / $300k worth of bitcoin from FTX moved to this one address? on: November 13, 2023, 11:33:32 PM
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3KUHpUCxaaJAsR5DQYB5rPYK8xwQprcZC9


Alot of money, including my $6k that was stuck in FTX was recently moved to this address Yesterday all at once. Someone says that this could be the feds taking over to give people their money back. Do you guys have any idea or more context about what could possibly be happening

Mine is the first transaction in that wallet, but everyone elses is in the second one. Which is weird but still.
203  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Loan defaulted by [Edwardard] on: November 13, 2023, 02:44:10 AM
Not fully experienced about campaigns but since these scammers use multiple accounts to build reputation and scam people, couldn't they just use their accounts to make honest money by just being in multiple different campaigns across their accounts? I think its just advertising the websites to the best of their ability? If this user does have multiple accounts, I'm unsure as to why they couldn't just do that to earn money instead of having to scam honest hard working people here.
204  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Loan defaulted by [Edwardard] on: November 12, 2023, 07:32:12 AM
Also here's something to think of as well. If he did originally intend to scam, couldn't he just request a higher loan to maximize his money? Especially for his clean past slate and good history of paying back loans and his 8 years on the website. So obviously with that in mind, he could've more than easily walked away with more than $1,000 to his name through scamming if he just asked for more. He (also as far as I'm aware of) never requested a second loan either from anyone which he could've probably gotten away with very easily.


He should still not be ignoring and he should be completely honest with his situation and provide as much proof as possible to show that he's not lying or making up a story. This is like the #1 rule for scenarios like this and here he is breaking that common sense rule. In this scenario although he'd be hella late and a little suspicious at least he's being honest and showing proof he can't just instantly pay back. I hope the best for him if he really is in an irl struggle.

I'm no expert at this stuff but based upon from what I've gathered it just feels like he made a horrible mistake and didn't intend for this to originally happen but the ignoring part is just still completely fucked. I hope that he's able to come back and pay your money one day because that's just so messed up.
205  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Loan defaulted by [Edwardard] on: November 12, 2023, 01:55:34 AM
I've given him a negative rep. That is evil. it sucks working legitimately to have your hard earn money robbed by these con artists. I really hope that he isn't a scammer and pays you back but it's been months. Looking at his history it looked like he was a legitimate user prior which sucks.
Thanks for your support. Though the amount is not small but the account if the user was more valuable as the user could earn a lot than the defaulted loan amount from the defaulted account.


He has been on the website for 8 years now or almost, and considering his past repayments including a previous $1000 repayment I feel like he wasn't originally intending to scam and I feel like he is in a genuine life situation. I would try to get him to talk about it more and provide proof so we can ensure that he's not lying at the very least, I don't like how hes ignoring you though one bit.

206  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Loan defaulted by [Edwardard] on: November 12, 2023, 01:26:13 AM
I've given him a negative rep. That is evil. it sucks working legitimately to have your hard earn money robbed by these con artists. I really hope that he isn't a scammer and pays you back but it's been months. Looking at his history it looked like he was a legitimate user prior which sucks.
207  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: November 11, 2023, 10:22:23 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134382609984651265/1173024315386630276/image.png?ex=65627306&is=654ffe06&hm=03190a0c366944be088d9d73831e2328bdb2d9af1f9fd57a7d0aed553d4de270&

Thank you, they now realize that claims.ftx.com is a legitimate website but they seem to be saying that there is no hope because it was after the crash, so they highly doubt it. I appreciate the help here. I am no expert at any of this its literally the first time ive had an issue with crypto after years of using it



Guys what the fuck? the money moved.
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/33FVJ3A8FEEmbwCLgYbbZw6zFzyNon4NnD

Do I even have a chance anymore



Sorry for all the double posts this is actually scary wtf


I've went through it a little and it was apparently done yesterday, but its still pending

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1129161965839855688/1173762036266717224/image.png?ex=65652214&is=6552ad14&hm=cf8c00f0b4f8681aeb2baf30865c3e6aa653613855d09e6ecf7e61cb189f951e&

Since its pending, do I still have a chance?

I click on the transaction hash of the transaction
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/13b8c1a93bd5b15d272c1d654e7c0379661647f3326dc86a702ffbda793c7beb

and this was like, the same transaction where rollbit gave me my money back. I'm confused..

I click on the address where its sent to and it looks like starting Yesterday and Today, a bunch of money is just being mass sent to this one address, including my money
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3KUHpUCxaaJAsR5DQYB5rPYK8xwQprcZC9

is this something related to giving back the money from FTX victims? What's happening?
208  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: November 10, 2023, 07:43:08 PM
Little Update:

I've shown them and talked to them about the suggestion you've provided and I got a response

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076932907307909201/1172622195239948298/image.png?ex=6560fc85&is=654e8785&hm=1e7a7d23db8cc71de2bb7294b3e899dc790fcb3c95e01f03f646292209e13910&

Could we double check, or confirm that claims.ftx.com is a legitimate website for them? I've been also trying to get ahold of a FTX Prosecutor on LinkedIn but no response so far as well. Any other people I should contact for advice or help?

Thank you again
209  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: illegal and humiliating video verification in Rollbit.com on: November 09, 2023, 09:14:13 PM
Honestly this is insane. I remember Rollbit KYC verification was the first time I ever completed KYC and I thought this process was a little invasive but I thought the process was all completely normal. I never thought about it this way until now.

I’ve been reading Razers post too, always replies to the Rollbit threads like he’s soulless instead of replying like a person. Which I also didn’t think much about either since the reason is understandable.
210  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: illegal and humiliating video verification in Rollbit.com on: November 09, 2023, 07:04:21 AM
In fact my hope is that OP is lying, that he's working for a competitor of Rollbit and is trying to besmirch their reputation
Possible. The way we see people are creating accusations against casinos, a group can plan such evil things and try to harm reputation of a specific casino. Another user claimed that he faced similar situation.

They just do this process to make sure it’s really you who’s verifying and no one els, e.g a relative or kyc account buyer. I’ve went through this process before. Rollbit does make me very sad though.

Can we expect a response from Rollbit management regarding these claims whether it's true?

Not sure how i’m supposed to prove it but the Community Manager set up an interview with me on Google Meeting. I’ve actually said this on my thread about rollbit as well but unfortunately I didn’t record the interview. They were indeed asking where I deposited the money from and browser thing for google chrome since I was using chrome. They didn’t do any in depth investigation regarding my chrome person tabs they just wanted to see it and for me to click on it etc. I assume they do this for verification purposes.
211  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: illegal and humiliating video verification in Rollbit.com on: November 09, 2023, 02:09:09 AM
They just do this process to make sure it’s really you who’s verifying and no one els, e.g a relative or kyc account buyer. I’ve went through this process before. Rollbit does make me very sad though.
Even for you did they ask about providing evidence of the source fund and ask to log into them ? Asked to show your browser profile ?

KYC is fine but it is inappropriate to ask you to log into your personal exchange accounts in the name of KYC. I would really like to hear from the team or their representatives regarding this situation.


Yea, they did both. They asked where I deposited my money and my browser too. I assume that this was done to verify ownership? Not sure but I’m guessing that


This is also the first time I ever completed KYC verification by the way.
212  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: illegal and humiliating video verification in Rollbit.com on: November 08, 2023, 07:03:13 PM
They just do this process to make sure it’s really you who’s verifying and no one els, e.g a relative or kyc account buyer. I’ve went through this process before. Rollbit does make me very sad though.
213  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: November 05, 2023, 02:28:52 AM
I just remember reading it here, maybe I misread it? idk
https://claims.ftx.com/welcome


File your customer claim
Deadline: September 29, 2023, 4pm ET ("Bar Date")


The FTX Customer Claims Portal and the Kroll Portal will remain accessible after the Bar Date to amend or file a claim. Absent order from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware, any claims filed after the Bar Date will be considered late filed and may be disputed. KYC will also remain open for customers to complete and upload the requested documentation


I might be wrong, but that snippets of announcement were scattered around the website, and I believe the full article is here, which reads,



The way I interpret it, yes you can try to file a withdrawal request after 29 September, but you'll need an order or approval from from U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware, without it, your claim might be rejected.

I think it's worth the shot, though. I mean... there's nothing to lose, is there?

ah i guess i can try, i really hope the company doesnt ignore me because they've been for the past week too. i emailed the ftx support email that a member mentioned above but no response either



I just saw this video randomly on YouTube I was wondering if it could possibly be useful at all to this situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF4t58gil1k
(SBF found guilty of all charges, video made 1 day ago)



Is there like any way I could claim the money without having to go through the company? They've ignored my message for over a week now  Cry I've sent support@ftx.com a message but no response in some time too. Unfortunately I can't use claims.ftx.com without the company's help since its their FTX account.

214  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: November 03, 2023, 08:55:33 AM
I wasn’t very good at reading it but they did say you can submit a claim after the due date but it might be denied or something idk. Could still trying be hopeful? And if I do, it would have to be under the companies FTX account. I’m willing to verify KYC since it’s my money but is this illegal since i don’t own the account? Unfortunately it actually was the same day I decided to verify KYC that it was also the deadline lol

Do you mind providing me this article? If I have some time at hand, I don't mind to give it a read and see if we have the same understanding of what the article conveyed. But... I agree with you, suppose they're still allowing it, I think the fund will most likely transferred to that company's possession, and/or can only be verified by the company, and not you. Unless... maybe the company can write a statement that the recent deposit to their address is yours and will be "bestowed" to you?

I just remember reading it here, maybe I misread it? idk
https://claims.ftx.com/welcome


File your customer claim
Deadline: September 29, 2023, 4pm ET ("Bar Date")


The FTX Customer Claims Portal and the Kroll Portal will remain accessible after the Bar Date to amend or file a claim. Absent order from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware, any claims filed after the Bar Date will be considered late filed and may be disputed. KYC will also remain open for customers to complete and upload the requested documentation




Woops, almost forgot to respond!

So, I heard about this site named ftx claim or something and it wanted me to log in. Since I don't have an FTX account I contacted the company and I was ignored.


[image reuploaded through talkimg]

If they decide to cooperate do you think I could get my money back from that website? I saw one of the steps said to complete KYC I'd be willing to do this for them or something assuming its legal and etc.

Is there anything I could do really? I feel like it's just gonna be stuck there forever.

That option had crossed my mind before, but if I am not mistaken [which is why I didn't voiced it to you] the deadline for claiming a return already passed, even before you created this thread, on 29 September. Read more here and here. If it's still open and the deadline is extended, it might worth the shot.





I wasn’t very good at reading it but they did say you can submit a claim after the due date but it might be denied or something idk. Could still trying be hopeful? And if I do, it would have to be under the companies FTX account. I’m willing to verify KYC since it’s my money but is this illegal since i don’t own the account? Unfortunately it actually was the same day I decided to verify KYC that it was also the deadline lol

Considering that Rollbit sent the coins after collapse, and after FTX/its subsidiaries become defunct, you should be able to get them back quite easily.

This will actually serve as a great test for the parties that are in control of FTX. If they do not give ineedhelpplease's money back, then the thievery is still continuing.  

It would be dumbfounding if they turn around and say that they no longer have access to the wallets. If they have a large array of wallets, someone with blockchain knowledge a part of the party in control can export the private key quite easily.

There are not many reasons why you would be rejected. I would not be surprised if it takes a long time to even get a response from them though.

Good luck, please keep us posted.

Our internal policies for these scenarios ensure that any deposited funds are returned only to the address we received them from. This is a standard industry practice.

For any funds that are sent directly to a service wallet, we recommend reaching out to the service directly. We have no control over their wallet, nor can we reverse the transaction.

This is a damn stupid industry practice. You are telling me that every casino will just fling funds to places despite not knowing where it's going, and that regulations render casinos incapable of asking a user "do you control this address?" before sending a refund? Please. That is a very poor industry practice and all casinos who do that are asking for complaints, and deserve to be scrutinized for this.

I am not in the mood to get involved in more drama, however if you want to prevent complaints in the future, communicate better and don't be idiots. I say don't be idiots because this "internal policy" that is apparently "standard industry practice" is idiotic. You know how the blockchain works and you know that confirming address validity to ensure it's not a service-address is essential for any kind of refund. This process that ineedhelpplease now has to follow is 100% Rollbit's fault and was very simply to preventable...If I were him I'd be pushing for compensation for the time and potential loss that you've caused for him at the minimum and probably scrutinizing until the "internal policy" is publicly changed as well, so that others don't face these problems.

Nearly forgot to respond. I've sent them a message via their email as well, I hope I can get it back or anything I can try to do really.
215  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: November 02, 2023, 09:20:41 AM
Woops, almost forgot to respond!

So, I heard about this site named ftx claim or something and it wanted me to log in. Since I don't have an FTX account I contacted the company and I was ignored.


[image reuploaded through talkimg]

If they decide to cooperate do you think I could get my money back from that website? I saw one of the steps said to complete KYC I'd be willing to do this for them or something assuming its legal and etc.

Is there anything I could do really? I feel like it's just gonna be stuck there forever.

That option had crossed my mind before, but if I am not mistaken [which is why I didn't voiced it to you] the deadline for claiming a return already passed, even before you created this thread, on 29 September. Read more here and here. If it's still open and the deadline is extended, it might worth the shot.





I wasn’t very good at reading it but they did say you can submit a claim after the due date but it might be denied or something idk. Could still trying be hopeful? And if I do, it would have to be under the companies FTX account. I’m willing to verify KYC since it’s my money but is this illegal since i don’t own the account? Unfortunately it actually was the same day I decided to verify KYC that it was also the deadline lol
216  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Unjustified Defamation on: October 30, 2023, 02:20:48 PM
Can you link the thread where Enrico was defaming?
217  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: October 29, 2023, 11:47:28 AM

AFAIK, gathered from several sources some time ago and probably a bit outdated, AML verification for crypto "business" involves submitting ID [driving license, passport, or other govt. issued ID] and proof of residential [utility bill, bank statement, landline bill, etc.] Not sure if the part I bolded above was one of their AML compliance, though one of the AML protocol is simply identifying and monitoring the flow of the funds. Thus, probably you're not in a serious situation where they require a complicated AML verification, they simply tracing and "labelling" your flow of fund.


Here are all the questions that I was asked, after their review of the interview if this helped
"Can you provide some information on who the withdrawal was initially going to?"
"Why did you deposit the funds to Rollbit then try and withdraw them again to use in a deal?"


[image reuploaded to talkimg]

So from what I'm reading, I'm assuming that AML happened around here?

Unfortunately, from what I read, judging from their wording, I think yes, you indeed triggered their AML alarm. Casino are very sensitive to funds that deposited to their platform and later withdrawn without any bets. Usually they have minimum wagering requirement to discourage people from using their platform to launder money. I've been wondering about this too, but I assumed you passed this requirement because you said you did gambled some.

If you deposited the funds and requested withdrawal soon after, without touching your fund at all, casinos will usually get suspicious and implemented KYC/AML screening.

Is that all they asked? Or is there any other question related to the fund activity they asked, be it on the live chat or during video verification?

For the chat, those were the only two questions asked before they ended their investigation.

I do remember being asked multiple questions within the interview, but since I don't have a recording, I cannot remember them all

Here are some;
They asked if I could log out and log back in
They asked if I could verify my email (At the time this gmail was locked, but as of literally 10 minutes ago I've gotten it back through entering my correct password and verifying my phone, so I can do this now but sadly it's uh far too late lol)
They asked where did my most recent deposit come from, which I showed them

I believe there may have been some other questions but I don't remember.



Hey, since you are an expert I would appreciate some advice or help here if possible for something i’m about to ask related to this thread. I’ll post in a second since i’m at phone and I need to go home to type easier and provide screenshots.



Woops, almost forgot to respond!

So, I heard about this site named ftx claim or something and it wanted me to log in. Since I don't have an FTX account I contacted the company and I was ignored.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051132543350611968/1169142611454476308/image.png?ex=655453e8&is=6541dee8&hm=24fa049c4db520e57d14c3fed6329ec8df8e74dcaba8a8b21a49cc7647f56837&

If they decide to cooperate do you think I could get my money back from that website? I saw one of the steps said to complete KYC I'd be willing to do this for them or something assuming its legal and etc.

Is there anything I could do really? I feel like it's just gonna be stuck there forever.
218  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: October 29, 2023, 09:27:47 AM
[...]

If you can help re-clarifying from your side for above question, you are not asked for specific document related to AML? You're just asked to provide ID and to log in and out of your account?

Yeah I don't remember submitting any documents and they never told me anything about "AML" I didn't even know that was a thing until after I made this thread. I was told to do KYC, and completed it using my Legal ID. I then completed a google interview with SmokeyLisa, and then answered a couple of questions related to the transaction I believe.

I'm not even sure what an AML document either but I know that was all I did, never submitted any paper files or documents to them, just my ID and an interview and answered their questions.

AFAIK, gathered from several sources some time ago and probably a bit outdated, AML verification for crypto "business" involves submitting ID [driving license, passport, or other govt. issued ID] and proof of residential [utility bill, bank statement, landline bill, etc.] Not sure if the part I bolded above was one of their AML compliance, though one of the AML protocol is simply identifying and monitoring the flow of the funds. Thus, probably you're not in a serious situation where they require a complicated AML verification, they simply tracing and "labelling" your flow of fund.


Here are all the questions that I was asked, after their review of the interview if this helped
"Can you provide some information on who the withdrawal was initially going to?"
"Why did you deposit the funds to Rollbit then try and withdraw them again to use in a deal?"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051132543350611968/1168118643679313960/image.png?ex=65509a43&is=653e2543&hm=403d9d597b7a80f87ed06a3b6083d09a22fa7b3960e860562e6c511fdab94355&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051132543350611968/1168118685504909332/image.png?ex=65509a4d&is=653e254d&hm=b15a2303553a78aa627398cb97c22d60b9ea75096ec11c0cb593cfd3b0b1ea40&



So from what I'm reading, I'm assuming that AML happened around here?
219  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: October 28, 2023, 06:45:28 PM
I needed this money to pay back a friend $2.6k and use to eventually pay for college. Since I value my Rollbit account just as much as my money, I already feel hurt well enough that my Rollbit account is banned but I'm aware that the moderation is my fault so it is what it is. But to have my money basically lost for no reason hurts so much... Please understand the importance of why I needed to get my money back. If I can’t get it back my life will be a lot more difficult and stressed for literally no reason. Please help me!

What you wrote sounds like the monologue of a gambling addict who gambled with the money he needed for his education and to pay back his debts. Without going into why they banned you, would it hurt you less if you lost your deposit gambling and now you have to find another way to pay your debts and education?


I don’t want to call Rollbit “scammers” as that’s the wrong word. They are amazing people and calling them scammers is wrong. However though, the owner of the website has sent my money to the “depositing address” which was an FTX address that can no longer be accessed by anyone I believe.

As far as this is concerned, I believe that you have a full right to be dissatisfied and to seek justice, because this is definitely stupid on the part of the casino, because how else can you describe that after such a long time, someone thinks it is right to return someone's coins to the address from which the deposit was made, without first contacting the client and asking for confirmation.

I don't know if there is anything in their TOS regarding that on the basis of which you could ask for a refund? Besides, can you prove that the address to which the coins were sent really belonged to FTX?

I understand it's a gambling site but they have an NFT buying and reselling section which is allowed for the USA to participate in. I opposed gambling and never like putting any extreme amounts in there, only like $1 $10 etc just really small amounts every once in a while. If I lost it from gambling it would hurt even more considering that the stupid action was on me. I already learned my lesson not to gamble long ago and seeing how it took along time to have it gone by a really dumb and avoidable action that I already knew the consequences to (losing money by gambling).

The company has directly told me it was from FTX, I could link a recording of me refreshing the chat and show the chat history too.
220  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address on: October 28, 2023, 12:23:10 PM
Understood, thanks for clarifying this. I saw that Razer was online two days ago, but didn't respond to any other threads I am pointing him to, probably he was just going online for a very short time and couldn't address any issue. I'll try to hail him once more with the updated development of this case.

Thanks for the heads up on this one!

This case first started on Jul 7, 2022 when our system flagged the account for suspicious activity related to their crypto transactions. KYC was requested at this stage.

The account remained stagnant until Sep 29, 2023 when KYC was finally completed on the account.

Once our support picked the case back up, we noticed the KYC had been completed by a US individual.

This doesn't necessarily mean OP was based in the US, but after further checks we were certain the individual was based in the US.

We now have an account where the player has circumvented our geographical blocking measures to open an account on Rollbit and which has triggered our AML system.

Our internal policies for these scenarios ensure that any deposited funds are returned only to the address we received them from. This is a standard industry practice.

For any funds that are sent directly to a service wallet, we recommend reaching out to the service directly. We have no control over their wallet, nor can we reverse the transaction.

I am a bit unclear about this. So OP triggered AML flags, but he doesn't asked to provide AML verification documents?



[...]

I’m confused as to why you had to do an investigation to see if I was from the USA when Before KYC verifying I literally admitted that I was from the USA and had gambled a few times but explained that the money earned wasn’t from gambling. Why investigate over something that i’ve admitted to before the verification?

[...]

There's no harm in double checking things, right? Besides, I might be wrong, but being a USA citizen does not means you're banned from using their service, being a current resident of USA does. So, they probably checking if you're accessing from within US soils.

If you can help re-clarifying from your side for above question, you are not asked for specific document related to AML? You're just asked to provide ID and to log in and out of your account?

Yeah I don't remember submitting any documents and they never told me anything about "AML" I didn't even know that was a thing until after I made this thread. I was told to do KYC, and completed it using my Legal ID. I then completed a google interview with SmokeyLisa, and then answered a couple of questions related to the transaction I believe.

I'm not even sure what an AML document either but I know that was all I did, never submitted any paper files or documents to them, just my ID and an interview and answered their questions.
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