Just trying to figure out how anyone can claim the distribution of NXT is better than BTC. Taken at face value, the claim seems absurd.
It's actually a fact, dwma. You will most likely be shocked when you research BTC distribution. Give it a go On its face, how could it be true? NXT hasn't been around that long. NXT doesn't have many services. BTC is all over the place. Who would these people who own NXT be?!?!?!??! It all sounds like lies to me. Why research something that is an absurdity. I can use BTC in numerous places in my city. I don't think anyone accepts NXT. BTC is on Bloomberg tickers now. Where are NXT conferences? Where are NXT meetups ? This is why I despise NXT. It is all bullshit artists. If by distribution you mean something like .. "a better distribution is measured by the largest account holder's equity vs the marketcap" then you guys have a point. That is the ONLY way it could be true, because yes there is that huge account from Satoshi sitting there with a small fortune. Otherwise it is absurdity. In absolute numbers of currency holders, I'd bet my life more people own some amount of BTC than NXT. |
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BTC has more users as NXT, but the repartition is better in NXT. Repartition is a proportion.
But NEM is nothing for now. It's only marketing, words, NXTstake assets on NXT.
NXT has more stake holders actualy as NEM "virtual" stake holders.
I agree more or less about NEM. It isn't "nothing" by any stretch, but it still is not a working currency. However, I find it very hard to believe that NXT has a better distribution. I'd like to see your definition of "repartition". I am most incredulous simply because I know lots of people with some amount of BTC, but I can't say I know 1 person with NXT. I myself may reacquire some NXT, but at the moment I hold none. Just trying to figure out how anyone can claim the distribution of NXT is better than BTC. Taken at face value, the claim seems absurd. |
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I don't need logic on distribution we have real world example and common sense. NXT was massively distributed early on, it has a similar distribution now of Bitrcoin, thats a fact. People have analysed this and shown it, please search for it on the forum.
So please can you respect me enough to admit im only saying facts. Disagree but don't say im spreading nonsense.
"NXT was massively distributed early on and now has distribution similar to Bitcoin." ROFL. my sides are hurting bro. Oh man stop it plz yer killin me. I've read well written articles/posts on NXT distribution. It definitely grew from the initial small group, but lol @ now comparing it to BTC. |
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Everyone who thinks 1000 stakes is fairer than 30 like NXT is fake fair and just as much as a hypocrite as UP and is lying about the maths of NEM's fairness to themselves and others.
We have already shown you people a hundred times your lack of logic about spreading wealth to 1000 or 30 it makes no difference if you hope to make a currency used by millions of people later.
It isn't a question of being fair. It is just superior. I created a new currency and 5 people had it. You created a new currency and 1000 people had it. Which would be superior, everything else considered being equal ? The answer - 5 would be superior because you can manipulate the market. 1000 would be superior if you wanted to use it as an actual currency. Actually that's proven to be false. When you have a small amount of large holders you are more likely to see like you did with NXT some heavy distribution selling. NEM actually will have the problem that mainly people have already decided its worth a certain amount and will hold it till it gets to that point. The superiority is negligible actually, that's the maths I tired to talk about. its like 0.000001% of people get it rather than 0.00000002% Its a falsehood which should be shown up as so. When people argue for it in any big way its shows they are either unable to use a calculator or are hanging onto a false fact in an insincere way. Certainly slapping fair distribution/egalatarian cross the coin as a selling point is plain wrong. I'm getting called out as a troll but actually what I'm saying is way more sincere and truthful than those attacking me. facts are facts. I confess i have a certain amount of joy at seeing UP fail in this certain way as a critic of the fairness doctrine. But I do think its deserved. Once you set yourself up as righteous on a certain issue you got to take the flack when you are proven as a hypocrite. I can agree about your problems with UP, but the rest of your post is rubbish. You've put forward no reasoning in your post. According to you - Having a handful of initial stakeholders is just as good for a currency because they can sell their stake. ROFL. Ok. What logic. In the real world, where things are dictated by reality, having a currency with far more people will be superior because it already has a large adoption from the start. (What good is a currency with a handful of people who trade in it?) More initial stakeholders also means a larger support structure. For those who bought their NEM stakes during IPO, they won't be so attached them because they didn't have to pay some sort of market rate from the original handful of sellers. You don't see people giving out NXT like DOGE. Hrmmmm wonder why. Shame on UP, but it doesn't mean anything he said is rubbish. He was caught with his hands in the cookie jar and NEM is going to have to find a way to move on. |
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You are forgetting why UP started NEM in the first place. The concept of fairness, which is stupid but hey people believed that false truth about distribution that 1000 people is fairer than 30.
Let me remind you the first couple of months was UP obsessively routing out sockpuppet accounts.
I don't see how NEM can recover any credibility at this stage. Sure it can do ok, but become great...forget about it.
The positive side is that people didn't buy in big before a big crash. There would of been tears.
By the way I have over 10 NEM stakes, im not ashamed to say cause I think the fairness thing is a joke, always has been.
So your account is not even a month old, but you have 10 other accounts you have sock puppets under? Thats a common tactic amongst the FUDDers, claim to have numerous NEM stakes. No I created sockpuppets to get more stakes. Do you think I was the only one?  I felt no shame cause NEM was just a clone project with a false concept of fairness behind it. I hated the fact it attacked NXT so hard on false reasons. I don't use them for posting. The reason i'm excited is this shows UP for what is always was. Plus it makes my investment in Qora the legit competitor to NXT look more attractive by the minute. You guys are upset cause your NEM stakes are diving. That's conflict of interest guys. Why should I respect your opinions? FUD is all about sowing false truths, tell me did I say something untrue. NEM really is in serious trouble from this, tell me that's not the case? NEM is not in "serious trouble". It was one guy who got caught doing something dirty. NEM isn't a clone project anymore than any other crypto currency. It actually isn't cloning/forking anything. You just say random crap. It has a wide range of supporters. Possibly more than NXT. I've never heard of Qora so I can't comment on that. Obviously it isn't a very big deal. There is no "conflict of interest" because NEM stakes are diving. That doesn't even make sense. You're a nonsensical troll and anyone would have to be a fool to read closely anything you type. |
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Everyone who thinks 1000 stakes is fairer than 30 like NXT is fake fair and just as much as a hypocrite as UP and is lying about the maths of NEM's fairness to themselves and others.
We have already shown you people a hundred times your lack of logic about spreading wealth to 1000 or 30 it makes no difference if you hope to make a currency used by millions of people later.
It isn't a question of being fair. It is just superior. I created a new currency and 5 people had it. You created a new currency and 1000 people had it. Which would be superior, everything else considered being equal ? The answer - 5 would be superior because you can manipulate the market. 1000 would be superior if you wanted to use it as an actual currency. |
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You are forgetting why UP started NEM in the first place. The concept of fairness, which is stupid but hey people believed that false truth about distribution that 1000 people is fairer than 30.
Let me remind you the first couple of months was UP obsessively routing out sockpuppet accounts.
I don't see how NEM can recover any credibility at this stage. Sure it can do ok, but become great...forget about it.
The positive side is that people didn't buy in big before a big crash. There would of been tears.
By the way I have over 10 NEM stakes, im not ashamed to say cause I think the fairness thing is a joke, always has been.
So your account is not even a month old, but you have 10 other accounts you have sock puppets under? Thats a common tactic amongst the FUDDers, claim to have numerous NEM stakes. |
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Why are you living out of hotel rooms? Surely there must be a cheaper alternative. That will eat up all your money by paying rent that is what.. at least 2x if not 5x the rate of having a roommate ?
Why did you not answer this question ? You don't want to be a corporate slave, you just want other people to do it for you so you can live in a hotel. If you are going to be homeless and a hippy etc, then live outside. Be one with the land. It is actually fun. I actually like hippies but it guys like you that ruin the name of the good ones. |
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There are obviously good guys just like in all communities, but NXT takes the cake for having the most aholes/scumbags in charge.
dwma, that's interesting! My humble experience is the exact opposite of yours. Hey if you are looking to buy NXT or contribute to the community it will be 100% different. Ask WTF is going on with your money... Or other dealings and you'll meet the scumbags. |
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I bet 99% of the guys who are making a big issue of this are large holders of NXT. They finally got their chance to take some form of legitimate shots at NEM.
The gates have been breached. Prepare for the hoard.
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just look what is in first 2 posts, they refers to NEM not to UP, this is clearly attack on NEM.
I sold all my NXT holdings because that sums up 90% of the NXT community. I once had a problem with a largish NXT transaction being stuck on a blockchain. I went to one of the top 3 (2?) sites asking about it. No help, but my posts ended up being editted heavily. I have more stories, but basically **** NXT. There are obviously good guys just like in all communities, but NXT takes the cake for having the most aholes/scumbags in charge. |
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Why are you living out of hotel rooms? Surely there must be a cheaper alternative. That will eat up all your money by paying rent that is what.. at least 2x if not 5x the rate of having a roommate ?
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So what makes this coin special? I followed some link bait titled thread about free giveaways and then come across this coin which seems to have no real point to it as far as becoming a currency? How would the give away be funded? I thought it said no premine... or was it a sneaky premine  Then by using the bait of the hardware the coindevs are hoping to pump up the price? How does it work ? |
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ROFL. I do this for immediate family now and no one else. I would do it for an older person or someone else possibly. I started out doing this to get some of my relatives on the internet because I thought their kids needed to be on the internet or have access to computers. (Think 20 years back). Then you come to find out how moochy and demanding they are. Somewhat recently, I hadn't seen them in years and years and I go over there and the father comes out asking me to come look at his computer because dip**** can't stay off pornsites and do stuff to get his computer owned by malware. At that point I felt ok telling him no.  There is always Best Buy and geeksquad or something. |
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wtf are you guys serious? you want someone high to be doing whatever he wants outside while being high? aren't you afraid of accident, murderer, severe injuries and stuff, that people can do/cause when they are high ?? No it should be forbidden and be kept forbidden, in a controlled environment why not, (someone at home or any party when people around, or a pub for that why not) but making it legal opens the gate to that minority (of course there are people that know what they are doing but not everyone does) to do shit. while you are it, make drinking and driving a legal thing as well -.- and that pool is such a troll many wow  So they should be put in a cage at the threat of lethal force to protect you while they're high ? ooook buddy. |
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Martingaling decreases the amount you can win and decreases the chances of you losing. You'll never win big though but may lose big.
For some people who get a big come up from the psychological edge of winning, then martingales are where it is. If winning a tiny amount does nothing for you, then they're kind of stupid. All martingales do is shift around variance. Whether you consider that "working" or not I can't say, but it sure doesn't make you a winning bettor.
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Have you guys ever decided on a certain time that isn't on Saturday morning to have the informal meetups between devs ? I wouldn't mind showing up but not sure if there was ever an informal time organized ?
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I've been paid each week without issue nuff said
Seems like they would have moved it to 2 weeks instead of 1 month? So they hang around and gain trust for 1 month by paying weekly. Then they get the same amount of advertising for free. I'm sure managing these things is a job in itself, but the lack of acknowledgement etc makes it seem a bit suspect. I hope I am wrong though. Looks like a neat service. |
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Broadband providers are the biggest bunch of entitled *!@#$!$s that exist in the US. Always under-providing and then wanting to shakedown content providers that their customers are already paying for. (To the content provider and to the bandwidth provider.)
Scummy broadband providers + corrupt US political system = Situation where we're behind other countries in broadband capability.
Go get them Netflix. At least the customers of Netflix like the company. Not sure how much that can be said for broadband/cellphone providers.
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Communities of like minded people start up all over the place. There is no need for a skyscraper. There are plenty of decaying towns in the US. You could pick any of them. The problem is just creating enough incentives to have people move out there. Thats why it is nice to be close to a decent metropolis where people could go to for a "vacation" from bitcoin city. You would also want it in a community with a low population or law enforcement that isn't overtly meddling. I've had similar thoughts myself. Where do you start ?
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