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201  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consensus-based society with provable trust-free voting on: December 09, 2012, 08:38:31 PM
it's funny how statists say that they want to replace the state but end up proposing... a state. it's like tribalism is baked in their brains and they can only offer solutions that make use of organized violence.
202  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Sending fake coins? on: December 09, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
Being a Bayesian means not reasoning from priors not requested in the question.
203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Sending fake coins? on: December 09, 2012, 11:40:08 AM
If the coins appear in your wallet and remain there after six confirmations, they can never be taken away.
They can. However, the more confirmations you have, the less possibility of this happening.  Every 'confirmation' adds a level of security to the transaction, and a massive amount of resources would be needed to turn back each transaction. For daily uses and moderate transactions - say 1000 BTC and below - 1-2 confirmations are what you'll only probably need.

Statistically, the Sun is more likely to "turn off" tomorrow than such an event happening.  For all practical purposes and intents, no one can scam people after six confirmations.

This is why I feel justified in saying, with near absolute certainty, "those coins can never be taken".

If you do not believe this is true, you should not be using Bitcoin.

It's not true. If some entity has more hashing power than all honest miners they can eventually catch up from any number of blocks. It is no where near the level of "sun turning off".

You two are changing the subject.

The question wasn't "under what circumstances is the Bitcoin system compromised" -- it was "given the current circumstances, how likely it is that I will be scammed out of my coins now after they have received six confirmations.

So, you two need to be Bayesians, respond to OP honestly, and stop introducing nonsensical speculation to a question that didn't ask for it.
204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Sending fake coins? on: December 09, 2012, 10:31:42 AM
If the coins appear in your wallet and remain there after six confirmations, they can never be taken away.
They can. However, the more confirmations you have, the less possibility of this happening.  Every 'confirmation' adds a level of security to the transaction, and a massive amount of resources would be needed to turn back each transaction. For daily uses and moderate transactions - say 1000 BTC and below - 1-2 confirmations are what you'll only probably need.

Statistically, the Sun is more likely to "turn off" tomorrow than such an event happening.  For all practical purposes and intents, no one can scam people after six confirmations.

This is why I feel justified in saying, with near absolute certainty, "those coins can never be taken".

If you do not believe this is true, you should not be using Bitcoin.
205  Economy / Economics / Re: Has the 'Bitcoin Experiment' changed your political or economic views at all? on: December 09, 2012, 10:22:22 AM
That is why I compare you to a theologian. You are telling me what to think. You are telling me what you think is moral and immoral, and you expect me to agree with you.  If I disagree with your axioms, then you call me a sociopath. The theologian would call me a heretic. The theologian speaks of forbidden fruit. You speak of healthy and unhealthy fruit. To me they are just fruit. I hate you both passionately.

I am simply stating what I believe.
I regard anyone who would accept aggressive violence as moral as a sociopath.
K, then. I regard anyone who would presume to decide for others what is moral and immoral as a theologian.

That is quite ironic, since it is the libertarian's stance that you should be free to follow your own moral codes - as long as you do it on your own property- and that no one has the right to impose their moral codes on others, while it is the Keynesians' stance that politician economists should decide what is moral and immoral, and force those moral codes onto others (e.g. socialism).

So does that mean you regard those who pass such morality codes as minimum wage laws, social security/welfare, housing subsidies, etc as theologians?

Funny how cunticula accuses people of being "theologians" while he has unwavering faith in a certain class of Holy Scriptures.

Funny how a man who doesn't want to be the victim of aggression is a "theologian" while a man who supports aggression is somehow not a "theologian" while he certainly defends and supports the actions of embodied deities on Earth and their Holy Commandments.

Funny how "do not aggress against people" is a "theology" (that miraculously does not involve obedience or reference to any representative of any god or other sociopathic authority), while "obey these papers" (which obviously involves obedience to representatives of gods or other sociopathic authorities) is somehow not a "theology".

Do you see how the sociopaths operate manipulatively by reversing and perverting fundamental ethics?

Of course the sociopaths are going to be supporting a particular morality they identify with -- the morality of obedience to the people who can have you shot or caged.  Of course they won't call that morality a "theology" -- that's just an insult they reserve to denigrate the ethics of decent people who don't support such atrocity.

Strike at the root already.
206  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Fascists That Surround You on: December 09, 2012, 06:09:07 AM
Best read on the subject of psychopathy:

http://www.systemsthinker.com/interests/mind/psychopathy.shtml#antisocial
207  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Experimental pre-0.8 builds for testing on: December 09, 2012, 04:43:17 AM
This is v0.7.1-244-g3ccb06f-beta starting from a completely bare directory, downloading the blockchain from a peer on the same LAN to remove internet connection speed as a factor.

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time bitcoin-qt -par=8 -connect=192.168.XXX.XXX

real    48m58.429s
user    114m35.786s
sys     2m33.817s

Again with a larger cache.

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time bitcoin-qt -par=8 -connect=192.168.XXX.XXX -dbcache=4096

real    42m10.028s
user    109m33.141s
sys     1m9.843s

Multithreading seems to be working well!
208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Sending fake coins? on: December 09, 2012, 04:40:42 AM
If the coins appear in your wallet and remain there after six confirmations, they can never be taken away.
209  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Libertarianism was created by big business lobbyists on: December 09, 2012, 04:39:52 AM
Hahaha!  "wahwahwah", fits the character like a glove.
210  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. CrowdFunding Bill on: December 09, 2012, 04:37:00 AM
Well, it is looking like it doesn't do a whole lot.

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Typical KickStarter deals won’t naturally transfer to equity crowdfunding and the vast majority of startup founders won’t receive any help at all from the JOBS Act.

And even what little it does do, it doesn't look like it will be happening anytime soon (nonetheless January 3rd like many were projecting back when President Obama signed the bill in April):


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JOBS Act rulemaking is likely to be put on hold or at least slowed down in the interim.

SEC Chair Schapiro to Step Down, Likely Delaying JOBS Act Crowdfunding
 - http://www.crowdsourcing.org/editorial/sec-chair-schapiro-to-step-down-likely-delaying-jobs-act-crowdfunding/21974

[Edit: On a positive note, Bitcoin-enabled equity crowdfunding platforms (none of which are waiting for the SEC rules) are now here and more are  being developed with at least one particularly good implementation arriving real soon now.]

Unfortunately, it will only take one man being caged for running one of these platforms, for the whole Bitcoin equity crowdfunding model to be stillborn.
211  Economy / Economics / Re: Has the 'Bitcoin Experiment' changed your political or economic views at all? on: December 09, 2012, 04:27:47 AM
Heads up everyone: Note the surreptitious change of topic from "aggressive violence" to "violence", followed up by "well, violence is essential" (which is trivially true of some forms of violence, but definitely not of aggressive violence).

Classic sociopathic sleight of words; gato por liebre, we Spanish-speaking people say.  With the omission of one single word, firefop completely changed the category of action that was being discussed, thus sabotaging a discussion about aggression (well, attempted to sabotage, haha, such nonsense does not escape me).

There you go, gentlemen, you just witnessed -- right in front of your eyes -- one example of how liars, charlatans and other forms of sociopaths peddle their malevolent shit.

So, who wants to bet money that the next time someone addresses firefop about the topic, he'll fog and confuse the issue -- exactly like he just did -- once again?
212  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Fascists That Surround You on: December 09, 2012, 04:25:23 AM
Sociopaths also will exist in AnCap, and render their personal brand of hell in all their ways within such a society as well. What is your point again?
In a free society the damage sociopaths can cause to society will finally be limited to what they can accomplish via their own efforts instead of amplified by access to armies, nuclear weapons, police forces and taxation.

What you mean, then, is they could never be worse than, say, someone like Hitler, as they gain wealth and power and a following? Nothing in AnCap precludes the accumulation of wealth, weapons, leverage through business, influence and followers. Good try, though.

Hitler couldnt do much running a company like general motors or walmart. I dont think he would get very far gassing his customers.

What if Hitler ran the company that sold the gas?

Who would buy?

The National Sozialistische Judenbrennung Company, AG.  I guess.  :-S
213  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: December 09, 2012, 03:41:28 AM
MoonBeaterOfChildren doesn't accept "your definitions" (translation: the normal meanings of the words you're using) because your definitions trivially prove him malevolent.  Sorta like the famous sociopath who said "well, no, I've never done anything violent, I killed a guy once, but nothing violent".

You, myrkul, clearly are an evil dictionarynoid oppressing Mr. Beating Children Is Not Violent Because I SAY SO, what with you bringing up your Fallacious Fascist Dictionary Authorities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLODu02R_gA&feature=youtu.be&t=17m13s

Sociopathy at play, my man, sociopathy at play.
214  Economy / Economics / Re: Has the 'Bitcoin Experiment' changed your political or economic views at all? on: December 09, 2012, 03:35:35 AM
That is why I compare you to a theologian. You are telling me what to think. You are telling me what you think is moral and immoral, and you expect me to agree with you.  If I disagree with your axioms, then you call me a sociopath. The theologian would call me a heretic. The theologian speaks of forbidden fruit. You speak of healthy and unhealthy fruit. To me they are just fruit. I hate you both passionately.

I am simply stating what I believe.
I regard anyone who would accept aggressive violence as moral as a sociopath.

Are you all convinced yet that cunicula is a sociopath, masquerading as a "freethinker"?
215  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consensus-based society with provable trust-free voting on: December 08, 2012, 10:50:39 PM
So, what you propose is a provable opinion poll? A way to gather information?

I guess that's fine. Democracy with no teeth can't bite you in the ass.

Yes, if that's the case, that would be fine.

Of course, a futarchy would be even better.  People can pony up money on their polls.  That usually makes them more accurate and cautious about not saying idiotic shit.
216  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consensus-based society with provable trust-free voting on: December 08, 2012, 10:42:23 PM

It's not about forcing anyone to obey anything

Ha.  Of course it is about that.  Why, then, are we non-voters forced to obey the orders that the voters (allegedly) gave everyone?  You think I can just stop paying the tax used to murder human beings abroad, and not be put in a cage?  How is that not force against me?
217  Economy / Economics / Re: Has the 'Bitcoin Experiment' changed your political or economic views at all? on: December 08, 2012, 10:25:33 PM
needs to justify his extreme dislike of anyone he doesn't fundamentally agree with, so he makes up these boogeymen to parade in public and fight against.

I think this is the reason.

A sociopathic individual is a person who is perfectly able to identify emotions in others, but incapable of sympathizing with those emotions himself.  This makes him an especially effective predator, since his unique mental constitution enables him to play others like a fiddle, manipulating and profiting (financially or psychically) from them, by pushing their emotional buttons.  Examples of sociopathy abound -- from the not-so-intelligent sociopath who scams old ladies out of their retirement money, to the extremely intelligent sociopath who scams workers via inflation.

In short: a sociopath gets your money (or your obedience) by manipulating and threatening you with misery or pain, and he is not affected by his behavior being evil.  If you didn't obey and someone killed, caged or ruined you for your disobedience, the sociopath will have no problem shrugging that off and blaming you, the victim.  That's the fundamental kind of person that the sociopath is.

There is, however, one situation that will push the sociopath's buttons: someone unmasking him.  Someone unmasking a sociopath -- revealing a sociopath for what he really is -- is a threat to the sociopath's profit and control over his victims.  Understandably -- in the sense that you and I can comprehend the behavior of a lion or any other predatorial beast -- the sociopath usually reacts to this threat by attempting to viciously destroy, defame, discredit and nullify the "enemy" (and the enemy's sensibilizing influence) over his victims.

As we saw before, the whole range of sociopathic stratagems to suppress humanity are available to the sociopath -- ranging from telling your Auntie Tilly that you want her dead (so you're out of the picture and he can continue sponging off her savings), to having you "suicided" for blowing the lid off on a corruption scandal.  Somewhere along this spectrum rests the common practice of sabotaging online conversations with lies and insults, as you no doubt have witnessed here; this is not directly violent behavior, but it's clearly antisocial behavior just like all other sociopathic behaviors are.

Since Austrian economics does unmask sociopathic individuals who parasitize society, it would stand to reason that cunticula -- sociopath himself -- would attempt to viciously defame and discredit Austrian economists and their contributions to human knowledge.

That's why he attacks me, that's why he attacks you, that's why he attacks so many other people here.  His goal is to suppress what you have to say about the sociopathic system he supports, but he can't really intimidate you because you're online; thus he attacks what you say and your character; this is also why he doesn't use the ignore list -- he needs to know what his "enemies" are saying so he can sabotage their participation.  Thank God I don't have to know him in person, cos otherwise I'd have to deal with the real possibility of an angry little man constantly yelling at me to shut up, possibly being violent in order to get me to shut up.

This is my humble analysis of what you've witnessed so far.
218  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consensus-based society with provable trust-free voting on: December 08, 2012, 09:40:59 PM
Myrkul, the guy refuses to read the information provided to him.  It's clear he doesn't want to have a conversation about the subject (except perhaps if the conversation makes him feel good by confirming what he already believes).

My humble opinion: Don't bother.
219  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Fascists That Surround You on: December 08, 2012, 08:31:22 PM
Part 6 is out!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVrlK1lIRqM&feature=g-user-u

BUMPITY BUMP.
220  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: December 08, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
Spanking as a pre-emptive conditioning measure:



That's all that governments ever do when they punish nonviolent people.
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