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201  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone Random Trademarked "bitcoin" : Now we can't use the term? on: July 07, 2011, 06:26:55 AM
ain't no thief like a lawyer...
202  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Maximum number of Mhash to solve a block. on: July 07, 2011, 06:09:35 AM
yes - go here:

http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php

click on the highlighted words that say "old calculator".

plug in the difficulty level (currently at 1564057) and the kilohash/sec your miner reports.  n.b., a Mh/sec = 1000Kh/s.  so if you're getting 250Mh/s, you'd put in 250000.

click 'calculate'.

this is why we mine in pools...
203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold has security issues too on: July 07, 2011, 05:43:46 AM
you can get a custom LP cut (the actual machinery is fairly expensive) by a service, for about 50 USD.

how many private keys can you get on one? Wink

i dunno.  it would depend on how much redundancy you felt was adequate.

an LP holds as much music as a CD though - right?  so a few hundred meg, less the data cost of analog>digital translation.

maybe you ought to start a btc storage service  Smiley

i thought of doing that.  just too many irons in the fire right now.

the idea is free to whoever wants it...
204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best 1-3 line selling pitch for Bitcoin on: July 07, 2011, 05:26:27 AM
the one i've heard that i like the best is:

it's like PayPal, but it's free.
205  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold has security issues too on: July 07, 2011, 05:13:14 AM
you can get a custom LP cut (the actual machinery is fairly expensive) by a service, for about 50 USD.

how many private keys can you get on one? Wink

i dunno.  it would depend on how much redundancy you felt was adequate.

an LP holds as much music as a CD though - right?  so a few hundred meg, less the data cost of analog>digital translation.
206  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold has security issues too on: July 07, 2011, 05:06:49 AM
is there a known "average lifespan" of solid state digital storage media?

Maybe, but it means nothing because different products will have different characteristics.

Non standard formats are a major problem for long term data storage. You can see this happen with the formats of the most popular word processor of a couple of years ago. Files in plain text, HTML, gzip, bzip2 are as readable now as they were when they were written. Be sure to use a simple format for your wallet and bundle it's specification together unless you plan to update it with every format change of your favorite Bitcoin implementation. That's my advice.

Regards.


as i pointed out on an old thread, once - the longest term storage medium we have yet devised is the LP vinyl record.  not counting chiseled rock, of course.  you can get a custom LP cut (the actual machinery is fairly expensive) by a service, for about 50 USD.

the trick is to get digital information onto and off of an analog medium without any degradation at all.  those USB record-players look interesting, don't they?
207  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold has security issues too on: July 07, 2011, 04:59:10 AM
I really dont see BTC being around in 5,000-10,000-25,000-2 million years.  Do you?

Gold will be laying or being worn somewhere.

I'm not sure I even believe humans will be around 2 million years from now. All that matters to me is the next 20-50 years. This guy isn't trying to pass on the wealth to his descendants 5,000 years in the future.

In 5,000 year, I expect gold will be a by-product of our cold-fusion reactors. There'll be more of it than we know what to do with. There will be landfills full of the stuff.

If gold has any value in the distant future, it will be manufactured. Completely silly to think gold is a good store of value for the next 25,000-2,000,000 years.

agreed - except i think you're an optimist.  i give gold and silver less than 100 years as a store of wealth.  nope, there's no long-term future in gold.

hell, there's roughly 25 tons of the stuff in every cubic mile of seawater (concentration varies by location), and almost twice that of silver; according to the USGS:

http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/whyoceansalty.html

humans have always been pretty good at extracting things from other things - and sooner or later, seawater will be cracked as well.  there's been folks working on it for quite a while.  sooner or later...
208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Poll: What is your favourite bitcoin browser extension? on: July 07, 2011, 02:56:32 AM
"O HAI GAIS, LET'S TELL PEOPLE NOT TO USE AN OPEN SOURCE BROWSER EXTENSION BECAUSE THE CREATOR MIGHT, JUST MIGHT, ADD A LINE OF CODE (TO HIS OPEN SOURCE CODE) THAT SENDS YOUR BITCOINS TO ANOTHER ADDRESS. LOLOLOLOLOL, I TELL YA, IT'LL BE AWESOME." -- bitcoinminer

Seriously, it's a tiny freakin' script that can't automatically update itself. If you're that worried, it's OPEN SOURCE! You can check the code yourself before downloading an update, or simply NOT DOWNLOAD IT.

Jesus christ, people really do take every opportunity they can to bash things, don't they?

it's money.

there's a lot of Bitcoiners who are learning the hard way to be careful with it.
209  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Introducing Bitcoin Harbor – the first Bitcoin Marketplace! on: July 07, 2011, 02:35:29 AM
as an old, ex-eBay hand, i feel obligated to point out that there is a difference between your ToS:

Quote
Sellers who keep their shipping receipts can always get paid.

and this:

Sellers who keep their shipping receipts will always get paid.

what if a buyer claims the package was empty, but the seller has all receipts?  who decides?  how?

just sayin'...
210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin killer app? on: July 07, 2011, 02:30:26 AM
you have a very good point, ryepdx:

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The collective computing power of our network is phenomenal. There are a massive number of GPUs and GPU clusters grinding away to create new bitcoins every day. But what if it were more profitable to pool together our resources and rent them in exchange for bitcoins? We would be selling bitcoins to people only to have them give those coins back to us later, and at potentially a higher price than we might have earned by mining those bitcoins.

right now (according to Bitcoin Watch) our network is hashing at about 141,891 TeraFLOP/s.  the main page for the BOINC Project says that their collective network (all projects) comes out to about 5,334.78 TeraFLOP/s.

a staggering difference...

my only question is this:  if we are going to rent out our TeraFLOPs to somebody in exchange for Bitcoin, where are they going to get the Bitcoin to pay us?  we won't be hashing up any new ones...

maybe a few of us could stay on the Bitcoin network, just to keep it going?  hmmm... difficulty drops to about 10,000... three or four blocks a day...

in the interest of solidarity - I VOLUNTEER!!!  Grin
211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Deepbit at about 49% on: July 07, 2011, 01:51:27 AM
so what?
212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MY BTC just went POOF [and then mostly UNPOOFED!]! oooeeeooo on: July 07, 2011, 01:50:22 AM
good news!

i'd prolly run some HDD checking stuff - defrag, surface scan, etc.  just for giggles...
213  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Destroying bitcoin, by coin, by coin... on: July 07, 2011, 01:22:39 AM
what a bunch of hogwash.

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It litterally takes us no more than a minute every week. Delete the wallet.dat and create a fresh one and another 5 coins or so are gone forever

you don't get 5BTC/week with 700 Mh/sec.

and:

Miner is running on 12 PC's at the moment, total hashing power close to 700 Mhash.

there isn't a "medium sized insurance company" on earth, european or otherwise, that has desktops capable of 58 Mh/sec (700/12).  they all have integrated video on the motherboard, and it's doubtful any business-class desktop will generate 10 Mh/sec.  i've got a quad-core Athlon that gets 10.  an average business-class machine will probably get about five-seven.

it might have been slightly believable if the business was claimed to be an animation studio or something.  but an insurance office?

bullshit.
214  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Volatility! OH BABY HOW I FUCKING MISSED YOU! on: July 07, 2011, 12:20:22 AM
6th biggest daily volume ever...
215  Other / Off-topic / Re: The biggest security hole -> Default values on: July 06, 2011, 11:38:07 PM
ummm... returning to the thread topic (i.e., Default Vaues), i don't understand something.

we can already control where the client looks for its configuration file (-conf=<file>), and where it looks for its data (-datadir=<dir>).

why can't we have an option like -wallet=<file> ?

it's hardly perfect, or even particularly elegant:  but it seems to me that the ability to run a wallet.dat file that was called foo.bar would eliminate about 90% of the scriptkiddie issues.

no?
Not for very long - for example under unix I could just query the process table and find out the command line arguments.  You could change the binary itself...

diff -Naur bitcoin/src/init.cpp bitcoin2/src/init.cpp
--- bitcoin/src/init.cpp        2011-07-06 16:26:16.920000001 -0400
+++ bitcoin2/src/init.cpp       2011-07-06 16:28:27.890000001 -0400
@@ -386,7 +386,7 @@
     printf("Loading wallet...\n");
     nStart = GetTimeMillis();
     bool fFirstRun;
-    pwalletMain = new CWallet("wallet.dat");
+    pwalletMain = new CWallet("boogie.dat");
     if (!pwalletMain->LoadWallet(fFirstRun))
         strErrors += _("Error loading wallet.dat      \n");
     printf(" wallet      %15"PRI64d"ms\n", GetTimeMillis() - nStart);


but then you can look at the files the app is using (kokjo did) or scan the binary...blah blah...



yes.

but how many of the scriptkiddies have your level of knowledge?  the heavies run darkcomet by rote...

a -wallet=<file> command line option isn't a panacea - but there's very little that is in the realm of security.  we chip away at attack vectors like the attackers chip away at us.

eh.  i wouldn't mind having the option to run wallet off a thumbdrive, without the rest of the data directory on it.
216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MY BTC just went POOF! on: July 06, 2011, 11:00:33 PM
have you checked the sandbox where anti-virus programs isolate non-cleanable virii?

it's possible your wallet could be there.  unlikely though.  sounds like a wallet-stealer.

and yes - i would heartily recommend linux.  don't be askeered of it - it's easy as windows, these days.

try here:

www.linuxmint.com/

the mint re-spin main line is based on ubuntu - but they also offer a spin of debian testing, for those who are a bit more secure in their knowledge.  in any case, for a first foray into linux, mint is unbeatable for ease of installation and use.  setting up a high-security user is pretty easy, too.

good luck.
217  Other / Off-topic / Re: The biggest security hole -> Default values on: July 06, 2011, 07:46:56 PM
useless! trojans cloud scan the whole computer for the wallet.

Thread got off-track a bit, but it could have usefulness outside security... at the moment people who have more than one wallet have to rename them to wallet.dat in order to load them.

wallet.dat -> rename to wallet_temp.dat
wallet2.dat -> rename to wallet.dat

I'd love to be able to call it something else, and in addition being able to specify the location of the wallet separately from the block chain would be handy for placing the wallet on tiny places where you don't want write 300+ mb of data. (like a flash drive). It'd be cool to have the bulky block chain on the hard drive, but wallet on a flash drive.

heh.  great minds run...
218  Other / Off-topic / Re: The biggest security hole -> Default values on: July 06, 2011, 07:45:49 PM
ummm... returning to the thread topic (i.e., Default Vaues), i don't understand something.

we can already control where the client looks for its configuration file (-conf=<file>), and where it looks for its data (-datadir=<dir>).

why can't we have an option like -wallet=<file> ?

it's hardly perfect, or even particularly elegant:  but it seems to me that the ability to run a wallet.dat file that was called foo.bar would eliminate about 90% of the scriptkiddie issues.

no?
219  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: At what price do you think Bitcoins will begin to rebound? on: July 06, 2011, 07:25:45 PM
I don't know at what price, but my next paycheck comes in tomorrow, so it should start rebounding fast just before my next Dwolla transfer clears... like it has done for the last 5 times in a row Sad

ummm... say, Rassah?

could you keep us all apprised of your pay-cycle?

sounds better than sunspots - if not as interesting as hemlines...
220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone Random Trademarked "bitcoin" : Now we can't use the term? on: July 06, 2011, 06:38:34 PM
Sorry, go here http://teasg.uspto.gov/gf/spring/nonteas?execution=e1s3

and input the serial number for this trademark    85353491

I did that... and get this:

Error
Please select the global form from the main page
Same.

sadpanda, please post instructions on how you got to that page.

Sorry, baby jesus hates me. here is the main forms page. 10. Letter of Protest is what I am looking at.
http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/teas/petition_forms.jsp

yup.  that works, inputting the trademark serial number above.
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