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201  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 06, 2017, 02:07:13 AM
Actually this is now the main fork, after the other two died dry. BitcoinNewsMagazine one was cool but people stopped posting there for no reason, Meuh sabotaged his own thread...

Elwar, good to see you around, have seen news from Latin America? Things are worst everyday, Maduro is playing a theater in Venezuela, possibly setting the right backstage to his so dreamed coupe d'état. Brasilian President Temer is likely to lose his presidential term due to many corruption accusations. His lawyers are using the same strategy last president used before being impeached. Sounds like desperation.

With so many countries on the brink of collapse I would not be surprised by that desperation leading to some sort of world war. That tends to be a nation's way of covering up their financial problems and pulling everyone together under some false sense of threat.

How do you see Bitcoin behaving in this WW scenario?

I think nations would crack down on it as some sort of money of the enemy or bans for "national security". It would go underground and likely be the only way many people can feed themselves.

Every time there is a terrorist attack in Europe they try to pass some sort of new anti-Bitcoin law.

Fiat currencies fuel war.

It's good to have such a skilled man's opinion. Thank you.
202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 06, 2017, 02:00:56 AM
Actually this is now the main fork, after the other two died dry. BitcoinNewsMagazine one was cool but people stopped posting there for no reason, Meuh sabotaged his own thread...

Elwar, good to see you around, have seen news from Latin America? Things are worst everyday, Maduro is playing a theater in Venezuela, possibly setting the right backstage to his so dreamed coupe d'état. Brasilian President Temer is likely to lose his presidential term due to many corruption accusations. His lawyers are using the same strategy last president used before being impeached. Sounds like desperation.

With so many countries on the brink of collapse I would not be surprised by that desperation leading to some sort of world war. That tends to be a nation's way of covering up their financial problems and pulling everyone together under some false sense of threat.

How do you see Bitcoin behaving in this WW scenario?
203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where to invest my 20 BTC (lifesavings) on: July 06, 2017, 01:59:07 AM
Just been looking at the stellar giveaway. You have to provide your facebook ID then tell them all your bitcoin addresses. Really what are they up to distributing a new cool crypto coin or linking bitcoins to people?

Do you have to give a real Facebook account? I have one but there's nothing on there and it's with a bullshit name. If they don't like that then I'll take a rain check on it. It seems to be purely about avoiding those deadbeats in particular US states like NY and WA subject to heavy regulation so perhaps it's an IP/location thing more than anything.

Exactly, certain countries that the USA doesn't like can't participate. That makes it look even worse. Smells like an intel job to me.

Indeed it's clearly an intel job. Anyway many are willing to link personal info to earn some alms...
204  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where to invest my 20 BTC (lifesavings) on: July 06, 2017, 01:55:39 AM
You're already in the best investment. You won't earn more anywhere else or be taking less of a risk.

Just be sure to keep your coins offline in cold wallets (I prefer "paper" wallets) and never sell them.

Whenever you sell or "take profits" you stop compounding your earnings.

Don't get sucked in by newer digital currencies. Bitcoin has stood the test of time. For almost a decade, people worldwide have tried to break Bitcoin and failed. It has survived numerous attempts to discredit, ban, suppress, and otherwise decrease its impact, and it repeatedly comes back stronger than before.

Existing financial services and media with a vested interest in the status quo might hate it but there's nothing they can do except try to discourage its use.

Don't get conned into thinking there's any better place to keep your wealth.

Hold on to your Bitcoin. If you don't, you'll end up regretting it.

No one in this forum could have a better opinion.
Instead of gambling with your BTC you should save your main income every month and buy more BTC.
So far 20 BTC is already a good amount, you'll be somewhat rich in a few years just by holding 'em.
205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 06, 2017, 01:44:25 AM
Hmm, another Wall Observer fork.

Is this a sign of things to come in August?

Actually this is now the main fork, after the other two died dry. BitcoinNewsMagazine one was cool but people stopped posting there for no reason, Meuh sabotaged his own thread...

Elwar, good to see you around, have seen news from Latin America? Things are worst everyday, Maduro is playing a theater in Venezuela, possibly setting the right backstage to his so dreamed coupe d'état. Brasilian President Temer is likely to lose his presidential term due to many corruption accusations. His lawyers are using the same strategy last president used before being impeached. Sounds like desperation.
206  Economy / Speculation / Re: I have been waiting for Bitcoin to reach $3000 on: July 06, 2017, 01:34:48 AM
207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 06, 2017, 01:06:40 AM
Anyway, I'm very happy infrofont is winning theymos' poll. Right now infofront 27 x 21 Lauda.
208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 06, 2017, 01:01:48 AM
Congrats, genius!
You killed your own thriving thread.

essence of a P2P forum.
you're welcome.

mission success !

bonus : high resolution picture, right-clic on it and "display the photo".

A loser's speech. Exactly what I expected.
209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 06, 2017, 01:00:35 AM
Go home, your kingdom of terror sucks!

I had to prepare you for the new policies ...


Congrats, genius!
You killed your own thriving thread.

I have to say that even if you have been slightly offensive to Meuh, any time I read those words "kingdom of terror" and come to my mind all those excessive rules about quotes, offtopic, pics size, and basically everything I ROFL! It's one of the most funny arguments I have seen in ages Smiley



Meuh got exactly what I meant. It's not about the rules, it's his behavior. He deleted everything I posted, even ON-TOPIC subjects, like our discussion about if the H&S pattern was weird or not. Maybe he didn't delete one or two random posts.
210  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 06, 2017, 12:10:36 AM
Go home, your kingdom of terror sucks!

I had to prepare you for the new policies ...


Congrats, genius!
You killed your own thriving thread.
211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 05, 2017, 11:02:04 PM
If Lauda wins this thing I won't go near it.  Angry


That Lauda tyrant probably voted with all 3 of his accounts...  Cheesy  Cheesy

He was staff before turning to a life of crime. Maybe Theymos has a record of his socks.

If Lauda wins the poll AND theymos grants him moderator status I think this infofront thread will thrive and the ole WO will became a nice memory from other times...
212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 05, 2017, 10:56:11 PM
Maybe it's just because they're waiting to see what happens with the old one.
Agree.  Wink

Go home, your kingdom of terror sucks!
213  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 05, 2017, 10:54:17 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

It seems our sideways coiling consolidation is continuing... currently $2587USD (Bitcoinaverage). Summer doldrums?
______

After a fairly good start, the phoenix thread appears to be losing traction (due to excessive moderating) while this thread seems to be growing.

I guess I'll be posting here until Theymos figures out what to do with the old Wall Observer.

I was under the impression that the reason the old WO thread was locked was that Adam wasn't able to self-moderate and it was becoming a pain for the global moderators. I thought that a totally unmoderated thread would be killed quickly but they seem to be leaving this one alone.

Maybe it's just because they're waiting to see what happens with the old one. Everyone voted yet? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2004227.0)



Nice to see you around.
214  Other / Meta / Re: What to do with the wall observer thread? on: July 05, 2017, 12:59:47 AM
hey everyone.. where is the new thread ??

So far the best one is this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1993010
215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 04, 2017, 10:22:18 PM
I read this and was not shocked in the least:

https://bravenewcoin.com/news/fourth-largest-bitcoin-exchange-bithumb-hacked-for-billions-of-won/

As soon as the Ethereum (delirium?) craze swept through South Korea and Bithumb popped up virtually overnight, commanding something like 45% of the total ETH trading, I distinctly remember my first thought at the time was "Bithumb is brand new... it will no doubt get hacked, likely by an inside job."

And sure enough it did.

Nice to see you around, Sir.
216  Other / Meta / Re: What to do with the wall observer thread? on: July 03, 2017, 10:45:10 PM
If option 1 or 3 occur, who are the candidates for new listed owner / mods? Someone please compile a list.

 The updated list in no particular order:


lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

Erkallys
- "I candidate if this is needed. At least I have no hatred toward me as well as any fanboy." - "I would not be too strict on moderation, and I am available all day long."

infofront- "I'm not a prolific poster, or well known personality, but I'd volunteer to help moderate. I started the "unmoderated" wall observer thread because I believe in the laissez-faire nature of Adam's thread."

Lauda - "I could create one, and would if someone were to get something like ChartBuddy running again." <-- from another thread but related to this one.

empowering - "I probably have the necessary erratic mental health condition..." "...So I guess I will throw my hat in - happy to do it, not fussed either though."


edit: removed yefi (at yefi's request)


infofront has showed he can handle the task with mastery by what he's been doing in his HF thread.
I support a moderator who can analyze what's a offensive content and has no need to unleash the nervous finger on delete button.
infofront bro you have my support.
217  Other / Meta / Re: What to do with the wall observer thread? on: July 03, 2017, 02:32:54 AM

Also, I don't remember seeing that sort of attack (on a considerable scale) for.. maybe since a year ago?

I don't think you stop much more of that attack by also restricting Jr Member, Members, or Full members. And for the few ones that could happen, banning would do wonders.

Any restriction over "newbie" account seems overkill and unjustified to me. Maybe I am wrong.





It's clear Marcus argument is not the reason theymos locked the thread!
I assume I was not around when that happened, is it enough reason to accuse me of being as evil as Jihan Wu himself?
Does the fact of someone's account being 6 months old say that they're this forum's enemies?
Should they not be allowed to participate in important threads?
Anyway I've been advocating to YES, PLEASE, PREVENT FORUM ATTACKS FROM NEWBIES. But stop here. A Jr Member can contribute and aggregate as I did myself and every Legendary was once a Jr Member.
218  Other / Meta / Re: What to do with the wall observer thread? on: July 03, 2017, 02:08:14 AM
I was being ironic (see the "Now seriously..." part). I have already stated I am against that sort of restriction. The only one that I would think reasonable is restricting *newbie* accounts... and even that is not something I really like.

The history of WO attacks are based on newbie accounts that were getting created by a VERY well-resourced entity. They were able to create up to 10 (or more) newbie accounts daily from seperate IP addresses that would spam the board and WO thread especially with pedophilia referenced posts, old-man porn, alt-coin discussion (mostly ETH) and other crap just to intentionally crap up the place and discourage new bitcoiners from reading useful information about pricing expectations.

The solution to that attack was to ping the newbie accounts for the Off-topic posts and then ban those accounts from the forum. They kept creating new accounts from separate IP addresses (do you know how much that costs?) and attacking WO ... you can ask Lauda who was moderating at the time to verify these facts.

Then when the Off-topic defence eventually proved effective then the attackers are now bashing the Off-Topic button to get regular users posts deleted, posts which are not disruptive or turn the place into a dump. Now the Off-Topic defence is getting attacked and the forum moderators are sick of defending those attacks we find ourselves locked out of WO (and arguing against potentially the same attackers trying to keep newbies disruption possibilities, disrupt this discussion and shut down the thread altogether).

Be clear of what you're accusing me of!
219  Other / Meta / Re: What to do with the wall observer thread? on: July 03, 2017, 01:52:33 AM
... oh boy, a noob spamming a WO-related thread with made-up controversies, machine-gun quote-spam posting and dragging posters into irrelevant side-arguments Roll Eyes ... how original, where have we seen that before I wonder?

No wonder deepcolderwallet is shilling for noob accounts because he's just going to create another one when he gets kick-banned for excessive disruption.

Ok, try it.
You can say whatever you want based on the fact you arrived here first, but I'm here FOR REAL, I want to participate and I'll fight till the end to have my right to do this. I don't need to create another account, and I WON'T DO THAT. If theymos decides I don't deserve here that's okay, there are other sources of knowledge. But I am sure his opinion diverts from yours.
220  Other / Meta / Re: What to do with the wall observer thread? on: July 03, 2017, 01:46:37 AM
Have anyone realised that Hero's and Legendary's have achieved that rank for being "prolific" posters?

Wouldn't it be better to do it based on account creation? Something like you can't post to WO if you haven't been registered in the forum for at least 3 or 4 years.

Now seriously... Theymos has already stated that signatures won't show up on WO and that, just maybe, the post count won't increase. Isn't that enough to stop most of the nonsense posts? No signature campaign earning nor activity farming should do wonders.

I would understand newbie accounts not being able to post as they would only need a couple of weeks to achieve the rank and it avoids someone just creating new accounts on the go to keep spamming the thread. Other than that seems too much a restriction to me... but if that's what most people want, why not?

I am not gonna cry for that Smiley


Because your account is pretty old and it won't affect you!
But came into Bitcoin last year and I've been participating in this thread almost DAILY! That is such a source of information, the same way I've been adding some REAL WALL OBSERVATIONS to debate. Is it fair to rip off people like me, who are SERIOUSLY coming to Bitcoin recently? How is it contributing to our so dreamed S-curve of adoption? Do you really want to turn my retirement savings into an "ONLY-THE-OLD-COMRADES" club?
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