If anyone has thoughts on Jetwin or Cloudbet, please post them.
I think that Jetwin should be raised to "B+". Cloudbet has these small hiccups which is why I'm hesitant to raise their grade at this time.
As posted above there is now a decent gap between the "A"s and "B"s compared to the "C"s on down.
I have had many dealings with Jetwin and Cloudbet, both in betting terms and customer service terms over the last couple of years and can truly say they've both been first class. |
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1) Are you listing them in order of preference or randomly?
Yes, in order of preference.
2) Can you elaborate on the positives for the books you consider the cream.
I could, but it would take ages to type it and I have a headache...but briefly,
decent odds, easy deposits, quick withdrawals and good customer service (at least in my experience)
3) Also would be interested in the negatives for the books you've left off this list.
I haven't left firms off the list as you put it, I have just listed those I personally consider the current top five with all things taken into consideration.
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Having just spent over two years running www.bitcoinpunter.com before being forced to close down by the UK Gambling Commission I feel I have the authority to give an accurate opinion on who people should be betting with. The cream are slowly rising to the top in the bitcoin sports betting industry and they are: Direct Bet Nitrogen Sports Cloudbet Anonibet Jetwin |
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BetVIP was never a "B-" or above. Fortunately, no "A" or "B" rated book has ever gone under
Good point!
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1 fairlay.com
1 betmoose.com
1 nitrogensports.eu
1 casinobitco.in
2 anonibet.com
1 betcoinsports.com
2 cloudbet.com
ONE for Nitrogen?? Are you doing this for a laugh? |
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Just spent over an hour trying to make a bet at this wretched site - betcoinsports.com I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts. Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there. Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page. Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts. I've had the same experiences there in the past. It's a nightmare. |
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betevip doesn't look good! sh**t never kept coins in nay site overnight! just won decent size bet, that settle day was already off (friday)
anyone emailed already sking for withdrawal and got lucky to receive? LOL
I have requested the 1.67 btc I have in there.....that was 8 hours ago. I've had nothing sent to me. coins still not received, no communication received either ... wonder how many of us same situation, guess we gotta move on, taken by lost They state on the site that payouts will take place between 28th and 30th June. Let's wait and see. |
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I am in the UK.
Yes, they contacted me via email with a Cease and Desist letter attached in PDF format.
They certainly mean business.
I think a war on bitcoin gambling has begun.
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I have had to pull my site www.bitcoinpunter.com today after the UK Gambling Commission contacted me to inform me I was breaking the law by advertising unlicenced betting sites and leaving myself open to prosecution. Advertising unlawful gambling is a criminal offence under section 330 of the Gambling Act 2005 (the Act).
The Commission regulates gambling in Great Britain and has the power to prosecute offences under the Act.  |
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Taken from http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/FAQs/Online-gambling/Why-has-the-Gambling-Commission-written-to-Bitcoin-operators.aspx------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why has the Gambling Commission written to Bitcoin operators? We are concerned about illegal gambling operators providing facilities for gambling to consumers in Great Britain. An operator needs to be licensed by the Gambling Commission regardless of where they are located in the world, if they provide facilities for gambling to consumers in Great Britain. We have written to a number of website operators offering prizes of money or money’s worth to gamblers in Britain that are not licensed by us. Bitcoin comes under the category of money’s worth and therefore any operator offering this facility to gamblers in Britain requires an operating licence or they are acting illegally.
Page last reviewed: June 2015 |
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As a matter of interest, can anybody who has funds lodged with BetVIP please sign in on this thread?
Cheers.
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It's a slippery slope once bitcoin, a decentralized currency, starts to be ruled over like thisIndeed it is! For what it's worth, allegedly, you can use the Tor browser from the UK and get around the problem. 
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In a Question and Answer session with BetVIP founder Daniel Schwartzkopff published by Bitcoin Warrior last year, the following exchange took place:
QUESTION:
Now, one of the big problems with any Bitcoin business where someone else holds the private keys is that there is nothing to stop the owners to just up and disappear with the proceeds. We just saw this with Evolution, the dark market. What guarantee do you have for the folks using your site that this won’t happen?
ANSWER:
In the past there may been an element of mistrust in bitcoin, with anonymity being one of the real barriers to players and consumers feeling safe.
BetVIP decided it was time to bring transparency and legitimacy to this industry, so we became the world’s first fully licensed bitcoin operator. This means that players know exactly who we are, where we are registered and they can put a face to the name of this company.
With our license comes responsibilities and legal repercussions for any illegal or fraudulent activity. We’re absolutely open with all of our customers so they can be guaranteed a safe gaming experience.
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Does that ease the worries of anybody waiting for their funds?
It doesn't ease mine I'm afraid.
Especially as Mr Schwartzkopff conducted a management buyout just hours before the site closed.
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The UK Gambling Commission has written to online sportsbooks, bookmakers and casinos telling them to block anyone with a UK IP address.
Already, Direct Bet and the Fairlay Bitcoin betting exchange have implemented this today.
It's outrageous.
Are Direct Bet and the Fairlay Bitcoin UK based? If not, why are they blocking UK IPs? I don't understand why everyone seems to be taking orders from the UK Gambling Commission all of a sudden without any explanation to end users. Any more details on this would be appreciated. Regardless of where the bookies are based, its customers are British. That's why they're only blocking UK IPs, and bitcoin sites are only following the other foreign bookmakers (188bet, sbobet, pinnacle) in leaving Britain since the new gambling laws require them to register under the UKGamingCommission's licensing system (and pay a hefty tax). The idea behind this is to protect British consumers apparently, though anyone who knows the first thing about betting knows you cannot win using British bookmakers alone. And I'd wager (no pun intnded) that there are fifa levels of corruption going on behind the scenes My point is, why are any sites blocking British IPs just because the UK gambling commission said so? Especially if they are outside of the UK, what can a UK gambling commission really do about it? How do you even prove that; 1) A cryptocurrency is equivalent to money's worth 2) An IP is equivalent to a location 3) An anonymous transaction is linked to a person in the UK and a gambling related server 4) A gambling commission in the UK has control over a server outside of the UK None of these things have been held up in court and, especially if you are outside of the UK, how do you even get summoned to a UK court of law? Basically, if sites start blocking IPs any time any random commission decides so then there is no point to using cryptocurrency. If anyone, from any side, honestly thinks that banning UK IPs resolves a problem here then they are seriously short-sighted. It will just censor the mainstream from cryptocurrency, and other commissions from other countries will soon start telling other sites to do the same with other services. Ultimately the only ones who will continue to use cryptocurrency will be using VPNs without the site's consent and causing more problems down the line. Frankly the fact that no one is seriously challenging this is disastrous to the survival of cryptocurrency. It has set the trend for the future. Cryptocurrency sites are happy to provide censorship of their services at the first sign of fear without even really questioning it. There is no longer any point in using them. A great post my friend and you echo many of my thoughts on this issue. Just why have Direct Bet and Fairlay allowed the UK Gambling commission to order them to block my IP? And why have they done as they've been told so quickly? I find it astonishing. I can only think that the British government have been leaned on by the big bookmakers here in my country. The rise of crypto currency betting obviously has them worried. |
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Why no Copa America or Women's World Cup soccer markets?  |
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has anyone received a confirmation response after a withdrawal request?
I haven't. |
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If I don't get my 1.67 btc back I will be chasing a certain person all over the internet for a long time to come.
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The last I read they weren't letting anyone withdraw till the end of the month.
That sounds very sketchy and doubtful imo--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Totally agree.
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On the plus side, BetVIP didn't take the money and run.
We can't say that until after June 30th...the date they say we will have all received our funds by. Personally, I don't see why withdrawals can't be processed as they are received. Why a two week delay? |
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Surely it's time for live soccer betting on Nitrogen.
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