Domain Name For Sale #25 ---> www.CRYPTOCURRENCYLIBRARY.COM $5,000. I will consider all offers, including but not limited to: trade, a partnership arrangement with the domain being my equity contribution. or good old (or new) fashion currency Yes, I have other cryptocurrency domains available for sale and am willing to bundle, click above link to see other names. |
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Si yo chapurreo en el foro inglés me llaman de todo menos guapo, y eso que mi nivel de inglés es nivel A.Botella  Ahora enserio después de tanto Offtopic, suerte a todos los afectados y gracias Armis. eres bienvenido |
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If you have lost money in the Mt Gox debacle we invite you to help find the money and the thieves, so that bitcoin could succeed. Many large thiefs have occurred and gone unresolved, we are investigating the mt gox issue with many resources, especially the blockchain to follow the money. we believe that the money trail will lead us to the thief and / or thieves. We need your help to collect information, share opinions, and exam the blockchain, those who can write code should write a program that could give us the ability to track payment addresses https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=492776.msg5628008I tried to use google translator, it translated poorly, but far better than I could have. Tens of thousands of people lost money, BTC and or fiat, bitcoin rates, and volumes are down because the btc system is no longer as trustworthy as most thought. If no one uses exchanges, and if everyone keeps their btc in cold storage it will be safe, however that won't stop the value of them from falling. The prices are falling because people can't trust the major systems (exchanges) to do what they promised to do. If you want bitcoin to survive we must either find the money, or fundamentally change the way exchanges operate, or both. Media hype only temporary increases rates, rates will go back down after the happy bounce, hype cannot replace 'good faith' real change and real accountability is necessary to restore the trust that is necessary to make btc work properly. If nothing happens you will certainly see the value of bitcoin to continue to reduce until there is nothing left. |
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El lenguaje se usa para la comunicación entendimientos, traductor Google se utiliza para ayudar en ese objetivo, si hay un error de ortografía que se despoja de la comprensión del mensaje, lo siento, pero estoy seguro de que el mensaje ha sido muy bien comunicada, con independencia de cualquier error grammattical Pety
aquellos que perdimos dinero en el desaster Mt. Gox realidad no me importa cómo se escribe "ladrón" que sólo quieren su dinero de vuelta
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Wenn Sie Geld im Mt. Gox-Debakel verloren wir fordern Sie auf, Hilfe zu finden, das Geld und die Diebe, so dass Bitcoin gedeihen konnte. Für viele große theifs aufgetreten sind und gegangen ungelöst, wir untersuchen die Angelegenheit mit sehr viele Ressourcen, sind wir auf alle, prüfen wir, alles, vor allem die blockchain, um das Geld zu folgen. wir glauben, dass das Geld Weg führt uns zu dem Dieb und / oder Diebe führen Wir brauchen Ihre Hilfe bei der Informationsbeschaffung, Sie Ihre Wahrnehmungen und Prüfung der blockchain diejenigen, die Code schreiben können, benötigen wir von Ihnen ein Programm, das es uns ermöglichen könnte, die Zahlung Adressen verfolgen schreiben https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=492776.msg5628008; topicseen # msg5628008 |
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如果你在山GOX崩溃赔了钱，我们恳请您帮忙找了钱，和窃贼，使比特币能茁壮成长。
对于许多盛大theifs已经发生和了解决，我们非常多的资源调查此事，我们正在大家，我们正在研究，应有尽有，尤其是blockchain追踪资金的流向。
我们认为，资金的去向将带领我们到小偷和/或窃贼
我们需要您的帮助收集信息，分享您的感受，并检查blockchain
那些谁可以编写代码，我们需要你编写一个程序，可以使我们能够跟踪付款地址
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Si ha perdido dinero en la debacle Mt. Gox le instamos a ayudar a encontrar el dinero, y los ladrones, por lo que bitcoin podíamos prosperar. Para muchos grandes theifs han producido y se ha ido sin resolver, estamos investigando el asunto con muchos recursos, estamos mirando a todo el mundo, estamos examinando, todo, sobre todo la blockchain seguir el dinero. creemos que el rastro del dinero que nos conducirá a la theif y / o ladrones necesitamos su ayuda en la recopilación de información, compartir sus percepciones, y examinando la blockchain aquellos que pueden escribir código, necesitamos que escribas un programa que nos permita realizar un seguimiento de las direcciones de pago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=492776.msg5628008;topicseen#msg5628008 |
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Domain Name For Sale #24 ---> www.CRYPTOCURRENCYLOGO.COM $5,000. I will consider all offers, including but not limited to: trade, a partnership arrangement with the domain being my equity contribution. or good old (or new) fashion currency Yes, I have other cryptocurrency domains available for sale and am willing to bundle, click above link to see other names. |
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[http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/79070783038/concession assist] "The Two-Bit Idiot I'm an entrepreneur and former VC who makes the business case for #Bitcoin on its journey from speculative investment to world-changing utility. Truth-teller. You can sign up for my daily bitcoin news digest, the "Daily Bit" by visiting: http://eepurl.com/JgGy5Concession Dear Idiots, I’m not going to bury the lead; I am not publishing the article tomorrow that I said I was going to on Friday. In fact, I never intended to (not yet anyway), and I certainly never intended to loop in the main-stream media so that they could pile on to our fledgling community. I simply hoped that a deadline would pressure Jon and Peter to resign quickly (and appropriately). While my accusations on Friday were 100% truthful, I now see that I have overplayed my hand. Rather than go all-in with a losing hand, I’m mucking my cards. I never anticipated this degree of backlash from within the community. As such, any further efforts to publicly push for resignations are not well-focused, and I plan to turn down the rhetoric. On the other hand, I’ll reiterate that while my hyperbolic tone was poor and regrettable, I continue to believe that the Bitcoin Foundation in its current incarnation is significantly damaged, and that Peter Vessenes and Jon Matonis should resign. But it may be better to let the Foundation die a slow, quiet death than to organize a public execution. I consider myself a Bitcoin entrepreneur first and foremost, and I think that a public spectacle would just provide ammunition for Bitcoin’s formidable external foes. Better to let the community purge itself. There are many reasons I took the course of action that I did, but as my unorthodox strategy ultimately proved unproductive, I’ll bow out of the conversation with respect to the Bitcoin Foundation without explanations or defensiveness. I’m sure I’ll be eating humble pie and ramen while I try to rebuild some of my damaged relationships. I tried something risky. It blew up in my face. That’s ok; I’ll take my medicine. Looking forward to getting back to my regular boring Daily Bits tomorrow. Cheers, TBI ________________________________ Why do you seek out and uncover the wrongs if you don't plan on reporting it? ... oh yeah so you could profit from the info.
This is the same guy that admitted to insider trading in the same breath he used to accused others of their wrong doings.
Now he's backing out of a contract he made with himself. hahahaha Keep this up you'll earn that seat on the Btc board. hahahahahaha
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clearly bitcoin is a language unto itself, it would be great if there was a cryptocurrency definitions thread pinned to the top of the boards so that the community can stay up to date with the ever changing lingo
is there anything close to a definitions thread around? (I can't find one)
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in the situation that you posed, when would the automated escrow release the funds, upon receipt or upon x# of confirmations ?
preferably when both escrows (dollacoin and BTC) had one confirm. the protocol would wait for both single confirms then auto send to the recipients addresses. but in a open source p2p program that is sat on someone hard drive. how do you prevent one user tweaking their source code to release funds instantly? The funds would never sit on a server & escrow would not be needed. They stay in your wallet until the transaction is performed. The server acts as a notary to the transaction using M of N to pass the keys once the contract is fulfilled. You client software would digitally sign the keys so they are not intercepted. No one other than the two parties involved would ever have access to the coins. I think it's awesome, now the definition of a transaction is split up into many parts. 1) the order buyer and seller sign respectively 2) the wallet/client/server acknowledgement/notary 3) the transmittal of info to server and blockchain for requisite confirmations 4) if all is well simultaneous release and exchange of items to wallets in the case of disconnected internet service from phone, wallet, server, or anything else, are funds in limbo until connection is made, or otherwise waiting chris gave the impression that they would be somehow waiting somewhere whooops, while I was typing above I see you made an entry relating to what I wrote, .... could you delineate the transaction process so that the distinctions between wallets, servers, clients, gateways, blockchains, and whatever else are made |
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I was surprised at how Ripple got shot down at every turn even though they apparently are a decentralized exchange (or are they)
ripple was the closest solution i could see. but most people ignored the whole point of exchanging bitcoins and dollars which were the important thing, and xrp was just a small thing sitting in the background where less then one xrp was removed from your holdings as a transaction fee (they gave people free xrp, so it was not meant to be a big deal) instead thogh, everyone thought xrp was an altcoin and only traded xrp for btc via WTB thread posts on the forum. and then complained that xrp was not a altcoin.. they totally missed the point that xrp was not a currency and just a transaction fee.. much like cash in the mail.. xrp was the postage stamp and everyone started trading stamps, instead of exchange funds in the mail. and complaining that the mail service was making money out of stamps.. .. the mind boggles sometimes Wow, thanks for that pieces of cryptocurrency history ... I guess having XRP sitting at the top of the Market Cap List Of Cryptocurrencies sorta ingrains the notion that they are a CC (even if they really aren't) |
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the point of failure is the conversion to fiat.
the only solution is a p2p client program that accepts bitcoins and another coin that is designated as always having a $1 value. to avoid multiple bank transfers just to make multiple trades. (100+trades, day trading).
i can see it working where jack can see Jill request btc for DollaCoin on skype, facebook or even this forum. and they simply link up with a keyphrase. i can even see how the program requests the individuals to individually type in a passphrase that combines to make an 2 escrow addresses. and once both parties put the funds into the dollaCoin and BTC escrow the program then shows payment sent and then forwards the funds to the recipients own address.
i have read where people want orderbooks in this program listing peoples offers and bids.. which is more complicated to kee updating p2p style
so the lesser problems i see.
1. how to operate the escrow, which is not corruptible by people tweaking their client sourcecode. yet remain open source
2. how would the orders be communicated throughout the network at a reasonable speed where all the nodes get a active list instantly
in the situation that you posed, when would the automated escrow release the funds, upon receipt or upon x# of confirmations ? |
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Although I still don't know what you guys are talking about in terms of "decentralized", I can say this: if it can be reviewed, if it can be referred, if more one one person is using it, if it's public, then yes it can and should be rated.
OK, I will try to explain..... Centralized = 1 Entinity Controls = 1 location of server(s) = Government can shut down Decentralized = Nobody controls = many Servers = Censorship resistant Example of centralized Napster Mtgox Paypal Example of Decentralized Bitcoin Bittorrent In a decentralized system, if one of the nodes(servers) go down, the others still continue to operate as normal. A decentralized exchange network would give us these benefits. Nobody could interrupt the system and it would all be trustworthy. When I mentioned "reviewed" I was talking about the computer code that would be launched to startup a network. Programmers can view open source code to make sure there are no hidden back doors or sneaky code hiding inside. Chris Odom, OpenTransactions Project, Explains it better in this video: http://youtu.be/teNzIFu5L70Demo of Opentransactions exchange platform http://goo.gl/i0J3AFHope this helps..... BTW, Love how Chris predicted the demise of MtGox early in the video.... thanks so much for the comprehensive explanation are the "pools" and "escrow entities" centralized, and if so necessary centralized evils for the OT system? |
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Too bad, I bought at 670, so obviously the price needs to go up. But don't let me stop you from buying right now.
I got stuck with $648 to $689, might have to sell that via local bit to make a profit. but that's ok, by Wednesday I suspect I should be able to pickup some brand new fresh and trim btc. |
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Bitcoin is trying desperately to hold onto $600+ but its grip is slipping and the $500 range is in view, so get your shopping carts ready cause prices 'r comin' round da mount'n w'en she come'.  |
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1) community validation / certification - I would to see some huge size community group (none anonymous) say 1000+ people, vote give star ratings to service providers.
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Something simple like star ratings would be nice. This is a feature that usually works really well due to the fact that it represents independent peer reviews, something that could fit bitcoin really well. If nothing else if would make sure the vast majority of newcomers picks a trustworthy service. There was a session at the Texas bitcoin conference where this issue was discussed, and there was some interesting ideas there, even though I fear we could easily end up with a cartel like situation if we don't get it right. TOTALLY WRONG!! Decentralized is only way to go..... The only reason you would "rate" a service is because it is centralized. A decentralized system is trusted by the mathematics and not because someone gave it a star rating. Hell, do you rate my p2p bitcoin server I am running at my house with a "star rating"!? Decentralized exchange services will not need any rating by anyone. It will be trusted because the code running the exchange service can be reviewed and cryptography ensures it's trustworthyness. Although I still don't know what you guys are talking about in terms of "decentralized", I can say this: if it can be reviewed, if it can be referred, if more than one person is using it, if it's public, then yes it can, and should, be rated. just like Taras said, decentralized exchange is what bitcoin needs. However i assume USD conversion will be a challenge since that requires some form of centralization.
What you're missing is that in the not-too-distant future, no one will be converting back to USD anymore... I don't know what you call "distant" or "not-too-distant" but as of right now bitcoin itself is on life support, if something serious isn't done quicklly to the infrastructure you won't have to be concerned with conversions. |
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1) community validation / certification - I would to see some huge size community group (none anonymous) say 1000+ people, vote give star ratings to service providers.
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Something simple like star ratings would be nice. This is a feature that usually works really well due to the fact that it represents independent peer reviews, something that could fit bitcoin really well. If nothing else if would make sure the vast majority of newcomers picks a trustworthy service. There was a session at the Texas bitcoin conference where this issue was discussed, and there was some interesting ideas there, even though I fear we could easily end up with a cartel like situation if we don't get it right. what are some of the other ideas that were shared at the conference That is more about making exchanges secure though, not necessary efficient or user friendly or decentralized wow, that was a powerful video, had to watch it twice; and will likely watch it a couple more times |
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This doesn't really prove ...
It is just a hypothesis that I came up with (after I concluded that the official story makes no sense whatsover) that screems to be either confirmed or debunked with evidence. I think what we are finding is that Mt Gox actually thought everyone would simply walk away from this as they have walked away from each and every one of the other events of like kind that have occurred in the past. |
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