Specifically they taped out 7nm in April 2018 and final products are arriving in the 3rd quarter (p. 118) They had revenues of 1296 million RMB (203 million USD) in 2017 (page I-32). I agree they have zero intentions to abandon the Bitcoin mining industry. Working on AI accelerator chips is just a natural way to expand their business into other areas. Well I think mining farms with 1000 841s. Doing 1000 x 14000 gh = 14,000,000gh or 14,000ph. Or 1,000,000,000 TV sets with 130gh chip clocked to 100gh = 100,000,000,000 gh or 100,000,000ph. If you are Avalon what market would you target. Since Samsung has made decent chips for Halong . I do think for that Samsung wants a chip in every tv they make. So if I see this as a direct threat to a mining farm you can be certain that Avalon/canaan sees this as a problem. I would think they are talking to TV set companies about chipping TV sets I would think Sony sees Samsung chipping its screens so Sony would want a chip in their TVs as would Lg. Tvs are everywhere. Big screens are now cheap and putting in a good 10nm or better yet a good 7nm in larger screens is going to happen. |
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Hello, We have Antminer 13.5T S9 with PSU for 974 USD and L3+ for 548 USD for sale, minimum order quantity is 20. Shipping fee is 70 USD to anywhere in north america, 50 USD if locate in BC Canada Sale is until June 1st. Welcome to contact us at : info@yottacrypto.comThank you this belongs in marketplace not here. looks like it was moved. |
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I guess I just don't understand why the unit would not just increase the fan speeds. The temp sensors are working, so it knows what the temps are. The fans can be speeded up more - as I have successfully tested that they can actually run faster. Is there some setting in some config file that should be checked/changed? Or, is this indicative of some kind of power issue? Other? If I manually speed the fans up to near the same speed as the other unit, the temps fall closely in line. It seems like a setting issue to me. But I don't know the internals of where to look, what to check for, etc...
I've tried to find a definitive answer. For the Antminer L3+, what is a good operating temperature to keep the chips and board at? Between 40c-50c, 45c-55c, 50c-60c, etc? Also will keeping the fans on auto, speed the fans up to keep the Antminer L3+ chips and board within Bitmain's operating temperature ranges? From what I've seen it does, or should I just run the fan at a static percentage to keep the temps at the lowest level possible. If thats the case why not run the fans at 80-100% all the time if noise is not an issue. Never run fans at 100% wastes money and does not cool any better then 95%. If your high side chip numbers are under 70c your fans are fast enough. I shoot for 65c max . I set fans static at 60% if I don't care about noise. but if noise matters I set fans as low as 25% I use undervolt feature from jestefanop thread |
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yeah I got some coin for this one nice.
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It looks like I have my first DragonMint card failure... card stats look like this...
# Hash Rate Status Accepted Rejected HW Temperature
1 528.86 GH/s Alive 23/0 13274 87 ℃
2 5.30 TH/s Alive 273/2 7839 76 ℃
3 5.33 TH/s Alive 281/0 6084 77 ℃
How is the repair process at Halong? Can anyone comment on what i should do and your thoughts on the repair process?
Thanks,
Steve
BTW - i have loaded the latest firmware and rebooted. Stats still look like the above.
roll back try a few firmwares to see what happens My five are on 3 different firmwares. I have 1 shaky unit that must run at medium speed and use april 28th firmware. the other 4 are trouble free |
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@ -ck thank you for reply
price does matter would like to know.
I would not buy this without proper firmware support.
My t1's are fine at low and medium speed.
If I can not set this gear to 3 speeds I do not want it.
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If the tv has 1 chip doing 10 watts making 100 gh. It could cool passive.
May work on 50 inch TVs but not 30 inch.
I would think 1,000,000,000 x 100 is 100 billion gh that is triple the current network.
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Is it same chip as the Halong T1 correct? Will -ck provide firmware to this gear? Does it only mine BTC? Is it limited to 5 pools? i was not able to the pool i wanted
is it only possible to mine on slush and ck? i dont like these pools at all there are more profitable o es but if i enter the details it keeps loading and not connecting is it hence only possible to mine on 2 pools
The public pools it currently works on are: ckpool solo ckpool slush bitminter f2pool I would love to demo one for you if you answer my 4 questions. Above I don't mind being limited to the 5 pools above as long as I know this before I buy it. |
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Adding additional complimentary vertical markets and new revenue streams can hardly been seen as shifting away from mining. Neither company has given any indications that their core business is changing at all. Now that their core business has made them millions and millions of dollars they have the luxury to strengthen the corporation by adding in diversity to their already significantly profitable and relatively stable revenue stream. Multi billion dollar business don't shift away from their core business while expanding new business, that would not be smart.
mining with an asic like the avalon 841 is not what I envision for the future of mining. But I am typing on a mac mini that feeds a 49 inch tv. If that tv set had about 2 or 3 chips it would earn some coin more or less as an exotic rebate . Why do I push this idea right now there are more then 1billion tv sets. This allows for decentralized miners across the world. Avalon would be foolish to not at least research this. How many chips are in the 841 what does it hash? Would you call the tv set mining gear ? this is what I meant. by abandonment or shifting away from mining gear. answer to the avalon 841 is 104 chips doing 130gh net of 13520 gh so 1 chip in a 50 inch tv does 130 gh using 13 watts. this is close to 2 dollars a month. x 1 billion tvs = 2 billion a month. No way this does not happen sooner or later. Samsung is making the Halong chip they must be looking into this idea. This is why both bitmain and canaan talk about spreading out their line of products. I have to think it is the wave of the future. |
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I am playing with a smaller coin. Mining and holding it.
Care to share that coin here philip? It's just us bitcointalk forum miners here and i'm sure we won't make much of a dent in your profitability. You know what they say, sharing is caring  Well someone on the site sent a pm to me and gave me the coin. It would be wrong to give the coin out unless he gives it out. |
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Just as an FYI, LUX has just pre-released our new PHI2 protocol that greatly improves on the original version  PHI2 has been designed to be FPGA and ASIC resitant...and also includes a 30-60% power reduction, and lower temps. Full release won't happen until we do a planned fork and introduce Segwit, Smart Contracts, POW/POS/MN reward changes and a few other things Full details on our discord if anyone wants to check it out - https://discord.gg/DrbfbtzPlenty more to come from the LUXcore team as well The Luxcore concept is unique and, as I see it, will be a much needed feature in the crypto world. So this is really good news. Food for thought-I wonder how Lux compares to Supernet (UNITY)? Guess I should pose this question on their threads. I Need to read discord closely |
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There is no way Avalon has any plans to stop selling BTC miners in the near future, they have likely made 10's of millions (or much more..) selling hardware, no company is walking away from a cash cow where customers are LINED up 10 or 20 people deep at times. What the release is saying IMO is that future revenue growth or new revenue streams will include alt coin miners and AI and other high density computing ASICS. I don't read anywhere that they are moving away from mining at all.
A successful business is always expanding and exploring other revenue streams. This is exactly what bitmain is doing with their Sophon AI business. Avalon is just following the industry leader. I think that they will shift as bitmain is doing. |
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I used the 106 gpu.
It is mid range not high end gpu.
It is like a 1060.
I built a lot of gpu rigs.
You should not have used the 106.
A four card 102 gpu would be smaller and with the new ethhardener software could do 220 to 220 at ETH .
Far less power as it would be more efficient.
And it would have been smaller so you could have saved money.
Frankly I like what you built but
A four card 102 gpu would have used less power and hashed higher.
Plus smaller in size.
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I have L3+(Blissz v1.02) is possible to go lower voltage(save more W)? with freq:300-312?
thx
With such low frequency your miners should already be set to minimum voltage/maximum undervolting setting of 0xfe (254). You can't undervolt more than this so no need for tuning. My take on the scrypt is that it is good if you want to try minimum volts setting of 0xfe and find highest hashrate that works for separate boards. But that if you clock at freq of 359 or lower like I do most boards simply do the 0xfe with close to no errors. Still if you have 2 board that do 384 and one that does 359 this is a good addition to the voltage control software. |
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even if gpu mining goes to more or less zero profit i think there will always be a use for a decent "standby" gpu rig (something thats already ROId).. a rig thats kept updated and ready to roll for any new algos that come along, just download a miner and go. theory being any really new algo wont have asics for a few months. get in early, hash with gpu till the big stuff appears, then back to standby status.
This is a good strategy that i would also like to follow through on. I'm currently on the rocks about selling off some of my GPUs and just keeping a reliable set of 1070s and 1080tis. As long as they are turning a profit above electricity costs they will continue to mine. Then when all goes to shit with ASICs, they will be on standby for new coins with new algorithms. Thanks for the idea bud. i wonder what the cards to keep are.. a few of each class of card? or go mostly with one class? or just go by power efficiency, ie nvidia at the moment. since most algos seem to run better on some class of card, how many bases to cover? grouped by memory type nvidia: ------- GDDR5X 1080ti GDDR5 1070ti amd ---- GDDR5 480/580 <- unsure on these, nvidia 1070ti beats them on power efficiency in most algos? HBM2 vega56 I have 16 1080ti's and 1 rx560 and 1 1050ti I am banking on the 1080 ti's hanging in there for a while. most of my hashing is sha 256 and script. |
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Seeing pictures of those 10000+ GPU nightmares doesn't instill visions of decentralization, quite the opposite actually. Massive farms exist... so what. You're looking at it the wrong way. I can buy miner-grade GPUs from dozens of outlets in my own country. Even from a real shop in town if I can be bothered. Something like 25% of Steam's userbase have a mining capable machine. There are 24 million copies of 'PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds' sold. Each of those copies belongs to one person with a mining capable machine. How many people in the world own ASICS? How many shops in the world sell them? GPU mining gear is available through the same channels as enthusiast PC gear. It's a different world. And since everyone knows about GPU mining now, you can bet that many gamers are evolving into cryptominers. The potential for decentralised mining is so much greater with GPUs than ASICS. So TRUE... Thanks for sharing, Apocalypse. two and three year warranties are why I like gpus. Sane running of gpus they don’t break. But asics are here and won’t be stopped by every developer |
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Got real world busy today.
Trying to hire a bathroom contractor. Also doing spring cleaning.
I am playing with a smaller coin. Mining and holding it.
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I would love to have a Samsung tv that mines a bit while I watch my favorite movie
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Lastly
Since you have a lot of s9s
Pull two good ones swap them to the weird controller.
If problem still there then the controller has a issue.
To confirm this take the fans from the weird controller put to the good controller
If they work you have some kind of controller issue
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